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UPDATE: after two separate tweets from the U.S. T-mobile company official Twitter account stating (or implying) that LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30, now the U.S. "T-mobile Help" (customer service) Twitter teams says they don't know. Please note this is a different department than those "T-mobile" Twitter team (management) who said yes.
But thanks to @Septfox for trying to pin down the answer, even if it's "we don't know".
Since the LTE band 71 has NOT shown up on US998 in FCC documentation, this probably means no. UNLESS:
1) LG submits a revised spec sheet to the FCC, which can be done. It would actually be in T-mobile's best interest for LG to enable that band on the "carrier unlocked" model. While T-mobile would not make money off hardware sales, they would gain additional customers who are considering switching. (Many people want a phone NOW, but need to get their ducks in a row family-wise to switch over to a new carrier.)
2) T-mobile radio can be flashed onto rooted "carrier unlocked" LG V30 US998. All the LG V30 hardware (antennas, etc) should be the same. At least from manufacturing efficiency it should be the same. Then it just depends on the firmware to enable specific bands.
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T-mobile LTE band 71 (600 MHz) will also be available on "carrier unlocked" LG V30, not just on T-mobile's LG V30
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
This is also the LG V30 model number that will be eligible for REAL bootloader unlock, unlike the recent T-Mobile LG G6.
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T-mobile has LTE band 71 on their newly implemented 600 MHz spectrum and the LG V30 is the first phone to use that band.
While LG also releases "carrier unlocked" versions of their flagship phones, which qualify for REAL bootloader unlock and thus root, TWRP, custom ROMS, etc., no spec websites have listed LTE band 71 (600 MHz) on the upcoming carrier unlocked LG V30 US998. (While not yet announced, we know the model number because B&H Photo has a placeholder page and it matches previous "carrier unlocked" model sequences. It's also the model given to reviewers during the pre-announcement embargo period back in August.)
So, people assume and even T-mobile customer service reps have stated that to get LTE band 71, you must buy the T-mobile variant of the LG V30.
For people who want dev work, this was disappointing, because while T-mobile previously was dev friendly with either unlocked bootloaders or easily unlocked bootloaders, this has changed in the past year. I could give multiple examples, but the most relevant is the recent LG G6... The T-mobile LG V6 bootloader is ostensibly able to be unlocked, but not really. LG/T-mobile removed all ADB flash commands except for bootloader unlock.
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All the fastboot commands have been removed on this device other than lock and unlock. Until there is a method to flash a custom recovery we can't really do anything.
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Like having the keys to the car, but there's no car. In effect, the phone is still locked down. So, months later still NO root, no TWRP, nothing can be done.
Six months later, there's still no root (even with a 22 page root bounty thread), no usable TWRP and no usuable ROMs. Yes, some devs have ported ROMS for the T-mobile LG G6, but no one can use them. Meanwhile the UNLOCKED LG G6 phones have tons of dev work, because they qualify for REAL bootloader unlock.
A second subset of stakeholders are people who are considering switching to T-mobile (or T-mobile affiliated MVNOs) in the future. They would have to buy T-mobile LG V30 now to be future proof, as T-mobile will roll out more of this 600 MHz spectrum in coming years. The "carrier unlocked" model (which can be taken to ANY carrier) would not work for them, if it didn't have LTE band 71...
Then, yesterday, from the official T-mobile Twitter account, T-mobile stated that to get full 600 MHz experience, you could buy their LG V30 OR buy the unlocked version direct from LG.
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Well, the unlocked version is LG V30 US998. And yes, while you can buy unlocked versions straight from LG if it makes you feel better, you can also buy them online at B&H, Amazon, even eBay.
IF TRUE, this is great news for the dev community and for LG V30 users. This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?
I've contacted one spec website for them to correct their now outdated information, and sent it to XDA News as it's big news.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
I must be the only person reading that Twitter quote as buyers having the option of purchasing either 1) from tmobile to get 600mhz support or 2) from lg to get the unlocked phone ( but no 600mhz support). This from the sentence structure. I hope I am wrong.
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I must be the only person reading that Twitter quote as buyers having the option of purchasing either 1) from tmobile to get 600mhz support or 2) from lg to get the unlocked phone ( but no 600mhz support). This from the sentence structure. I hope I am wrong.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it like this, thought I was just being paranoid :v
I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it. Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all. I'm going to bed : |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it like this, thought I was just being paranoid :v
I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it. Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all. I'm going to bed : |
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Still, this seemingly twice via Twitter they've stated/implied the unlocked carrier version of the LG V30 will also have 600 MHz LTE band 71. IF they are NOT saying that, it's very misleading. Yeah, I also parsed the original tweet, but decided it made more sense to take it at face value... Why would you have a carrier unlocked phone if it didn't have all the carrier bands? I may be wrong, and if so, I'll be the first to update the the first post.
NOTE: Please, NO ONE quote any online or phone T-mobile customer service reps. Those people don't really know about stuff like this. Yes, even at the "highest levels". And I mean that in the nicest way. [emoji14] I don't know how many times I have seen transcripts posted here on XDA "proving" something from from various customer service "chats" (escalated to the "highest level") -- which of course were totally wrong.
One example specifically was Samsung online customer service reps saying the Galaxy S8/S8+ Snapdragon U.S. "carrier unlocked" version would also have bootloader unlock? We KNEW that was wrong, even before the phone was released.
"But I have the transcripts!" Doesn't prove a thing.
At least Twitter posts from company account are considered official company statements. And I happily accept those as proof. Even the president of T-mobile re-tweets the company's Twitter posts.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
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I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it.
Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all.
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If anyone wants to have another crack at pinning down the language, please do so. But again, only from trusted sources! Please, NO online carrier customer service reps!
From another thread, where we're discussing the same topic:
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Hopefully I'm just reading too much into it, but the FCC documentation supports only the T-Mobile variant getting band 71 iirc. We'll see in a couple weeks.
In other news, apparently the 128gb variant isn't going to be that much more expensive, something like $50...but I can't remember where I saw that.
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I have no explanation for the FCC findings unless there's going to be a "revised" submission or something before the US998 model is officially announced.
Other related questions are whether the unlocked V30 will support volte and/or wifi calling.
Based on the info in this link, it appears that unlocked LG devices do not have a good track record of supporting these features. I hope that changes with the V30.
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Copying this over here:
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ChazzMatt said:
I have no explanation for the FCC findings unless there's going to be a "revised" submission or something before the US998 model is officially announced.
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That would be my guess, yea. Someone over on reddit has suggested that if what T-Mobile says is true, it might mean that LG has/is going to file a class 2 permissive change so they don't have to go through all the hoops again.
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Other related questions are whether the unlocked V30 will support volte and/or wifi calling.
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I read somewhere earlier that someone successfully used VoLTE on Verizon using an unlocked g6, no screwing around needed. No wifi calling, though.
The g6 is probably the closest thing to an actual predecessor for the v30, and as far as I've seen Verizon sets the bar highest for "how much of a pain in the ass do we want to make it for non-native-variant phones to use our features". So I would expect carrier-agnostic VoLTE/HD Voice/etc at the least, and extras like wifi calling requiring some custom tweaking to get working.
At this point in smartphone history, the V30 (i.e. US Unlocked) not having wifi calling would be epically stupid. I find it hard to fathom LG would not include wifi calling on this device but then again some of these companies have a history of omitting "no-brainers" .
I'm not fond of 18:9 but will accept it. If on top of that LG leaves out wifi calling it would give me pause...
I'm with mintsim (tmo) so 600 mhz is great but wouldn't a deal breaker.
I really hope this is wrong but...
This is what they said to me.
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Great question! You would need to purchase the T-Mobile LG V30 when it comes out in order to take advantage of our Band 71. *RickK
I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??
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At this point in smartphone history, the V30 (i.e. US Unlocked) not having wifi calling would be epically stupid.
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The problem is, wifi calling requires support from the carrier end, probably their special app, and maybe even some special RIL and framework stuff depending on the carrier. You're on a phone that you went out of your way to not buy from them, so they're not exactly inclined to provide any of that for inclusion in the OEM's ROM.
And that's the impression I get of using unlocked phones here in the US: technically you can go to any carrier you want, but getting features beyond voice and data working pretty much depends on whether or not they decided to make things easy and use AOSP implementations (like what looks to be the case with VoLTE), or an enterprising dev manages to spackle something workable together.
... or maybe I'm full of crap, who knows. I'm on Tracfone, MVNOs don't get all this fancy stuff :v
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I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??
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https://twitter.com/LoveTechMedia1/status/908560025165086720
Considering the ambiguity of the other tweets, and the FCC entry lacking b71, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he were right.
Sure would be great if LG would respond on Twitter. I know it's an unreleased product, but come on. I really don't see the issue with providing potential customers a bit of basic information that could make or break their decision to purchase said product.
Pointing out again that, regardless of official support, it's not terribly unlikely that the hardware is the same, making enabling b71 manually a possibility. We should get one of the review unit people to try screwing with service menu settings, to start.
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Can't sleep, going at this again.
Between canned responses and conflicting tweets, I'm getting the impression that T-mobile doesn't actually have the information.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/908608113124577281
Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.
And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.
They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.
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This is what they said to me.
T-Mobile HelpVerified account @TmobileHelp 18m18 minutes ago
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Replying to @lovetechMedia1
Great question! You would need to purchase the T-Mobile LG V30 when it comes out in order to take advantage of our Band 71. *RickK
I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??
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I told you we would laugh at any online support rep transcripts. The NEVER know stuff like this or give completely the wrong answer.
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NOTE: Please, NO ONE quote any online or phone T-mobile customer service reps. Those people don't really know about stuff like this. Yes, even at the "highest levels". And I mean that in the nicest way. [emoji14] I don't know how many times I have seen transcripts posted here on XDA "proving" something from from various customer service "chats" (escalated to the "highest level") -- which of course were totally wrong.
One example specifically was Samsung online customer service reps saying the Galaxy S8/S8+ Snapdragon U.S. "carrier unlocked" version would also have bootloader unlock? We KNEW that was wrong, even before the phone was released.
"But I have the transcripts!" Doesn't prove a thing.
At least Twitter posts from company account are considered official company statements. And I happily accept those as proof. Even the president of T-mobile re-tweets the company's Twitter posts.
If anyone wants to have another crack at pinning down the language, please do so. But again, only from trusted sources! Please, NO online carrier customer service reps!
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Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.
And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.
They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.
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Thank you, that's actually more helpful that the silly online customer support reps who give wrong answers. The company Twitter team statements are considered official, in that the T-mobile president often retweets them for new features/plans, etc. Which is why the first two tweets were NEWS, that seemingly LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30.
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UPDATE: after two separate tweets from the U.S. T-mobile company official Twitter account stating (or implying) that LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30, now the U.S. T-mobile Twitter teams says the don't know.
Since the LTE band 71 has NOT shown up on US998 in FCC documentation, this probably means no. UNLESS:
1) LG submits a revised spec sheet to the FCC, which can be done. It would actually be in T-mobile's best interest for LG to enable that band on the "carrier unlocked" model. While T-mobile would not make money off hardware sales, they would gain additional customers who are considering switching. (Many people want a phone NOW, but need to get their ducks in a row family-wise to switch over to a new carrier.)
2) T-mobile radio can be flashed onto rooted "carrier unlocked" LG V30 US998. All the LG V30 hardware (antennas, etc) should be the same. At least from manufacturing efficiency it should be the same. Then it just depends on the firmware to enable specific bands.
I'm laughing at you than. Because that's a tweet I shared.
Wow. Very condescending and rude. I am a new member so I couldn't link directly to my tweet and you jumped off one Chazzmatt. You started this whole thread sharing tweets and the end result.... apparently Twitter support reps know as much as online support reps. Do your just wasting everyone's time frankly. So who's laughing now? #deleteyourpost #deleteyouraccount
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I told you we would laugh at any online support rep transcripts. The NEVER know stuff like this or give completely the wrong answer.
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Wow. Very condescending and rude. I am a new member so I couldn't link directly to my tweet and you jumped off one Chazzmatt. You started this whole thread sharing tweets and the end result.... apparently Twitter support reps know as much as online support reps. Do your just wasting everyone's time frankly. So who's laughing now? #deleteyourpost #deleteyouraccount
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Not condescending or rude to reiterate customer support reps statements will not be accepted as proof.
I said that earlier in the thread, and gave proof why. Go read the hyperlink post I gave as one example. And over the years I've seen many more. Customer service reps are notoriously ill informed on technical matters.
Then customer support transcript was posted anyways? If you read the thread, I clearly asked please do not offer something like that as proof.
For me, only T-Mobile or LG official company statement is acceptable, of which company Twitter account is an example.
Your not reading what I am telling you!!
[/COLOR]"This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?" -Chazzmatt
I'm Chazzmatt. When I share TMobile tweets it's big news...when Junior members do it I laugh at them. Seriously, idiot.
Dude. You're right. Your not those things. You're just an idiot. Read my post. I shared a tweet. Which is what you shared. So you are full of it. Do people become senior members around her posting garbage or what?
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Not condescending or rude to state customer support reps statements will not be accepted as proof. I said that earlier in the thread. You just didn't read the thread.
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[/COLOR]"This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?" -Chazzmatt
I'm Chazzmatt. When I share TMobile tweets it's big news...when Junior members do it I laugh at them. Seriously, idiot.
Dude. You're right. Your not those things. You're just an idiot. Read my post. I shared a tweet. Which is what you shared. So you are full of it. Do people become senior members around her posting garbage or what?
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I'm not talking about tweets. If you shared a T-Mobile company tweet, that is legit.
I'm talking about online customer chats.
Which was it?
It was news because in two separate company tweets T-Mobile stated or implied the carrier unlocked version of the LG V30 would have LTE band 71.
Now @Septfox has pinned them down further and they say (via Twitter) they do not know.
That's where it stands.
If you have a company tweet clearly saying no on this question, then post it. Because your first post sounded very much like online customer support chat or something.
My replies have been detailed and clear on acceptable proof.
It is a tweet!
Dude, read what other people write. I have only ever shared valid tweets. I am beginning to suspect you have learning difficulties which prevents you from reading correctly. And I am actually going from anger and annoyance to feeling sorry for you and bad about bashing this around your head. But dude! Please just read more carefully. I am honestly baffled by this exchange. Another guy on here even linked directly to my tweet. The article that was posted based on your original response features my twitter exchanges in full color. If you paid attention, you would know this. I may be new to XDAdevelopers but I wasn't born yesterday.
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I'm not talking about tweets. If you shared a T-Mobile company tweet, that is legit.
I'm talking about online customer chats.
Which was it?
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Dude, read what other people write. I have only ever shared valid tweets. I am beginning to suspect you have learning difficulties which prevents you from reading correctly. And I am actually going from anger and annoyance to feeling sorry for you and bad about bashing this around your head. But dude! Please just read more carefully. I am honestly baffled by this exchange. Another guy on here even linked directly to my tweet. The article that was posted based on your original response features my twitter exchanges in full color. If you paid attention, you would know this. I may be new to XDAdevelopers but I wasn't born yesterday.
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I saw @Septfox Twitter post, where T-Mobile now says they don't know.
I initially did not see where he posted YOUR Twitter link also. I thought that was still his and since he posted screenshot of his, there was no need to click on it. But I went looking for it and found it.
Look, we're all here looking for information and trying to help each other. All you had to say was, "it's not customer support transcript". I clearly thought it was, and said so in my post.
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Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.
And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.
They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.
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Original posts (plural) saying yes or implying it were from "T-Mobile" account while these two latest are from "T-Mobile Help". I KNOW T-Mobile customer service ("Help") has been told to say you have to buy T-Mobile branded phone.
I was hoping "T-Mobile" knew something "T-Mobile Help" did not.
And yes, I hope LG files C2PC with FCC to enable that band on the carrier unlocked version. It would benefit both LG and T-Mobile.
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on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
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You're right. But that's just crazy.
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/09/13/lg-made-google-pixel-xl-2-hits-fcc/
Why would LG/Google do that? Leave that off the Pixel XL 2? They don't need T-Mobile "permission" to include that LTE band 71, and LG already has the test data, etc.
CONSUMER WARNING : No SIM unlock codes for Verizon Moto E4 [new stock]
Perhaps some VERIZON E4 IMEI's starting with 3541360¤; 353308089¤; 3556690808¤; 3533080886¤; 3533080887¤; 3533080888¤; 3533080889¤; are not unlocking NOW.
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CONSUMER WARNING : No SIM unlock codes for Verizon Moto E4 [new stock]
Perhaps some VERIZON E4 IMEI's starting with 3541360¤; 353308089¤; 3556690808¤; 3533080886¤; 3533080887¤; 3533080888¤; 3533080889¤; are not unlocking NOW.
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The codes on eBay worked fine on my xt1767, which I picked up around Christmas. I haven't tried unlocking for GSM since then.
ra1dn said:
CONSUMER WARNING : No SIM unlock codes for Verizon Moto E4 [new stock]
Perhaps some VERIZON E4 IMEI's starting with 3541360¤; 353308089¤; 3556690808¤; 3533080886¤; 3533080887¤; 3533080888¤; 3533080889¤; are not unlocking NOW.
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Do you know when the codes for 3533080888¤ are going to get available?
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Do you know when the codes for 3533080888¤ are going to get available?
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Nope, sorry.
message the guy below to see if the codes available yet
on ebay message the guy mobunlockingmaster in the uk to see if the march 2018 and newer verizo xt1767 can be unlocked
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Nope, sorry.
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Just tried one beginning with 3533080884 and was told it was not available. Was told to try again in a few weeks. Any idea if these will unlock eventually? I successfully unlocked two others in December 2017: 3533080833s.
drcameron said:
Just tried one beginning with 3533080884 and was told it was not available. Was told to try again in a few weeks. Any idea if these will unlock eventually? I successfully unlocked two others in December 2017: 3533080833s.
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Given the likely source of these codes draw your own conclusions. Likely someone got 'busted' with subsequent modification of internal polices to prevent (or at least reduce the chance of) reoccurrence.
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Given the likely source of these codes draw your own conclusions. Likely someone got 'busted' with subsequent modification of internal polices to prevent (or at least reduce the chance of) reoccurrence.
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Are there other options to sim unlock the phone?
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Are there other options to sim unlock the phone?
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Follow the carrier rules (some allow unlocking after terms have been met) or get another handset - preferably one that is carrier unlocked from the factory. XT1768 is your best bet which supposedly offered at a discount by some US based MVNOs like Boost.
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Follow the carrier rules (some allow unlocking after terms have been met) or get another handset - preferably one that is carrier unlocked from the factory. XT1768 is your best bet which supposedly offered at a discount by some US based MVNOs like Boost.
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If I recall correctly, I believe the box that it comes in states that you have to spend about $70 of airtime to qualify for unlock.
I recall my brother using this website in the past
Mod Edit: Externeal / commercial link removed
For anyone that wants to give it a try, still pricey at $29.99 compared to $2 on eBay.
Any news so far i just got one from best buy and IMEI starts with 354
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I also tried purchasing a code on ebay and it didnt work so I just sold the phone as it was. I saw a post from somewhere here on xda where someone says its now possible but i dont remember the thread, just search on youtube for "moto e4 xt1767 unlock" i think there is one video where the link to the xda post is mentioned.
I have about a year old Verizon E4. Is it possible to still unlock those phones?
i don't see why not but you have to check with unlockers as they have posted the range of imei's/date range that can't be unlocked
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I have about a year old Verizon E4. Is it possible to still unlock those phones?
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Ebay user\store kevinlow82.
ra1dn said:
Ebay user\store kevinlow82.
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I looked up that user, no listed unlock codes for the E4, doesn't seem to have any moto E's listed for unlock.
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I looked up that user, no listed unlock codes for the E4, doesn't seem to have any moto E's listed for unlock.
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try mulenkachi
For those who has new stock IMEI - try to use "Remote Unlock" on Ebay. It costs about $15
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For those who has new stock IMEI - try to use "Remote Unlock" on Ebay. It costs about $15
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XDA Forum Rules -- Rule 6 & Rule 7 -- prohibit the promotion or advertising of warez or services which require members to pay to use. Moreover, a remote unlock service is not required in order to use this device on other carriers. The process is very much free of charge.
Do I need to find a Verizon variant that is factory unlocked?
What other installation quirks are there for LOS16 on Google Pixel 1 (Verizon variant)?
Also, is VoLTE available for LOS16 on this device? I'm still unclear if it's the OS or the hardware that dictates VoLTE capability. It's important for Verizon customers since they are dropping CDMA Dec 2020 and switching to VoLTE.
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Do I need to find a Verizon variant that is factory unlocked? ..........
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I don't have this device myself but, have you tried asking within one of the following threads that's specific to your device?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3489001
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3830083
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3796030
The above are just a few applicable threads...
It just seems like the best place to start with these questions is by asking those who has your device as well as the Firmware too.
Just an FYI... There's threads that are located within the Pixel XL area of the forum that specifies Pixel/XL, Pixel-XL & marlin/sailfish. This just means that they apply to both the Pixel & Pixel XL as being Unified (aka applies to both device variants).
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The 4g variant is supposed to have esim yet I do not see anything in the settings to allow adding a new service.. Any clue about esim functionality?
I do not believe the U.S. version of the Galaxy Fold supports dual-sim; it only has one sim and it uses a nano-sim. Have you called AT&T to find out if there is in fact eSim support?
It definitely has an esim, you can see it imei in about phone.
Edit* That said i don't know how to use it.
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It definitely has an esim, you can see it imei in about phone.
Edit* That said i don't know how to use it.
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To activate it you would need to call your carrier and provide the eSim IMEI number to them. The phone may support eSim but AT&T itself might not. I'd like to know though if they do coz' that's the only reason why I haven't purchased that phone yet. Other specs I read mentions both eSim and Nano Sim and calls it "Dual Sim" but for some reason for the Folds Best Buy and AT&T only labels it as "Single Sim". Samsungs USA website does the same thing but their international sites identifies the phone as eSim and Nano sim capable.
I believe all Fold LTE versions has the same hardware and only difference are carrier supported features.
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I believe all Fold LTE versions has the same hardware and only difference are carrier supported features.
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I know they don't plan on releasing the 5G version in the U.S. and only the LTE version but you are probably correct with your statement. The U.S. LTE version could be the same as the ones they are releasing across the world and supports dual sim but AT&T might not just support it. I guess will know for sure when someone calls AT&T's support and attempts to enable the eSim feature. I personally got mixed answers from reps at the stores as they are not too familiar with the Fold's feature yet. If it was a cheap phone I'd probably still try and take my chances but for a $2,000 phone I'd like to know for sure first that I can use the eSim and Nano sim on it and have two lines running before buying one.
We got our answer! Published just hours ago at PCMag: https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/34287/samsung-galaxy-fold
"The Samsung Galaxy Fold is available unlocked directly from Samsung Experience stores and some Best Buy locations, as well as locked to AT&T from some carrier stores. It works on all US networks and supports LTE bands 2/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/30/38/41/66/71. There's a nano SIM slot as well as an eSIM, though Samsung states the eSIM is only compatible with European carriers at this time"
There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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Good luck with "messing up the firmware" of you expensive Fold...
Just accept e-SIM is not activated in the US!
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There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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It won't hurt nor will it mess up your phone to try. T-mobile supports eSim for both postpaid and prepaid customers, Verizon supports it for postpaid, and AT&T (I believe) supports it for both prepaid and postpaid too. But since AT&T carries the Fold there may be a chance that it won't work with them. All they need is the IMEI of the eSim chip anyway, and all you need to do is provide it to them. If their systems accepts it then good but if not then you simply just continue using your nano sim.
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We got our answer! Published just hours ago at PCMag:
"The Samsung Galaxy Fold is available unlocked directly from Samsung Experience stores and some Best Buy locations, as well as locked to AT&T from some carrier stores. It works on all US networks and supports LTE bands 2/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/30/38/41/66/71. There's a nano SIM slot as well as an eSIM, though Samsung states the eSIM is only compatible with European carriers at this time"
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Thats wrong. Bought a Sm-F900F (U.K.) version unlocked thru amazon for U.S. use and got esim setup for tmobile.
CapitalCommie said:
Thats wrong. Bought a Sm-F900F (U.K.) version unlocked thru amazon for U.S. use and got esim setup for tmobile.
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Looks like you didn't understand the thread or didn't read the PCMag article. The quote was accurate because it was referring to the U.S. version of the phone. You bought the U.K. version and that indeed is a dual-sim phone.
I actually personally verified that at a Best Buy store in the U.S. When I checked the network settings the eSim feature is grayed out. It is showing an IMEI but is grayed out and cannot be activate. I also got to touch the Singapore version which is a dual sim version like yours and that didn't have the eSim grayed out.
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Looks like you didn't understand the thread or didn't read the PCMag article. The quote was accurate because it was referring to the U.S. version of the phone. You bought the U.K. version and that indeed is a dual-sim phone.
I actually personally verified that at a Best Buy store in the U.S. When I checked the network settings the eSim feature is grayed out. It is showing an IMEI but is grayed out and cannot be activate. I also got to touch the Singapore version which is a dual sim version like yours and that didn't have the eSim grayed out.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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So..if i Odin flash the international firmware then the esim will work? Wheres the thread discussing this? I'm all in if true.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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Well the article doesn't market to techies but normal people that would be buying the phone so it referred to the facts and facts are never wrong.
But I agree with you, the hardware is there and they are just greedy to not allow the eSim to be used. Where is that thread you said you created because I've been researching that method for quite sometime now and didn't find any? I don't even know a single person that has successfully flashed it and even went to Asian cellphone stores that does phone repairs and they couldn't flash the fold. I would love to read that thread if what you're saying is true.
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Well the article doesn't market to techies but normal people that would be buying the phone so it referred to the facts and facts are never wrong.
But I agree with you, the hardware is there and they are just greedy to not allow the eSim to be used. Where is that thread you said you created because I've been researching that method for quite sometime now and didn't find any? I don't even know a single person that has successfully flashed it and even went to Asian cellphone stores that does phone repairs and they couldn't flash the fold. I would love to read that thread if what you're saying is true.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/e-sim-t4011541
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/e-sim-t4011541
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LoL! Just what I thought. That thread you said that you started with full instructions on how to do it was started just yesterday after we asked for it. Furthermore, the link you said didn't show any flashing instructions, and worse, I couldn't find the "many people" you claimed have done it on that Reddit post. In fact, "many people" have claimed what I said that the AT&T versions/U.S. Fold versions does not support eSim functionality.
Bring the ego a little down low man, this forum is meant to help everyone and not disagree with people or claim that their posts are wrong specially if you cannot provide factual counterclaims.
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LoL! Just what I thought. That thread you said that you started with full instructions on how to do it was started just yesterday after we asked for it. Furthermore, the link you said didn't show any flashing instructions, and worse, I couldn't find the "many people" you claimed have done it on that Reddit post. In fact, "many people" have claimed what I said that the AT&T versions/U.S. Fold versions does not support eSim functionality.
Bring the ego a little down low man, this forum is meant to help everyone and not disagree with people or claim that their posts are wrong specially if you cannot provide factual counterclaims.
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I didn't say the many people were in that thread. The instructions I was referring to were the actually activating the esim once you have the options available. And I said off jump out the box att doesn't (although 2 ppl did say it was active out the box for them) but if you flash it should open it up. And I didn't time frame when I made the post. I did make it before I seen this thread. But in either way the time it was made is irrelevant. All I was saying was that I had made one.
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I didn't say the many people were in that thread. The instructions I was referring to were the actually activating the esim once you have the options available. And I said off jump out the box att doesn't (although 2 ppl did say it was active out the box for them) but if you flash it should open it up. And I didn't time frame when I made the post. I did make it before I seen this thread. But in either way the time it was made is irrelevant. All I was saying was that I had made one.
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Do you know if there is any change in the eSIM information for the F900U units in the US? Some conflicting information. Not sure, if flashing unlocked firmware enables it.
hello, anyone flashed the international firmware & got the e-SIM option rolling?
Hi, due to the high prices in my country I have bought an TMO version of one plus 9 pro LE2127. But to keep use my sim in my country I have to pay huge amount or I have to replace the IMEI number with one of my old phones. I have been looking for how to do but I couldn't find a valid guide for this. My phone is in Android12 now and 13 is just came today. I didn't do update yet. Can anyone help me out this issue?
Regards.
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Hi, due to the high prices in my country I have bought an TMO version of one plus 9 pro LE2127. But to keep use my sim in my country I have to pay huge amount or I have to replace the IMEI number with one of my old phones. I have been looking for how to do but I couldn't find a valid guide for this. My phone is in Android12 now and 13 is just came today. I didn't do update yet. Can anyone help me out this issue?
Regards.
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Changing the imei is forbidden in most countries and is not supported here as far as I know
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Changing the imei is forbidden in most countries and is not supported here as far as I know
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I didn't know that it's forbidden here. My fault then. I apologise.
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Hi, due to the high prices in my country I have bought an TMO version of one plus 9 pro LE2127. But to keep use my sim in my country I have to pay huge amount or I have to replace the IMEI number with one of my old phones. I have been looking for how to do but I couldn't find a valid guide for this. My phone is in Android12 now and 13 is just came today. I didn't do update yet. Can anyone help me out this issue?
Regards.
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Altering the IMEI of your phone is against the law in most countries and is not something that can be discussed on XDA. Instead of trying to alter the IMEI, next time you buy a phone, make sure it's sim unlocked and doesn't have a blacklisted IMEI.
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Hi, due to the high prices in my country I have bought an TMO version of one plus 9 pro LE2127. But to keep use my sim in my country I have to pay huge amount or I have to replace the IMEI number with one of my old phones. I have been looking for how to do but I couldn't find a valid guide for this. My phone is in Android12 now and 13 is just came today. I didn't do update yet. Can anyone help me out this issue?
Regards.
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I didn't know that it's forbidden here. My fault then. I apologise.
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@mvollstagg I've closed this thread!
As already above indicated by @ChrisFeiveel84 and @Masterchief87, edit or change of IMEI is illegal in quite a few of countries. For this reason, I've closed the thread! XDA doesn't allow and doesn't accept discussions about or support for such an edit or change.
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