Three network SIMs not working but O2 & Vodaphone SIMS ok-HELP! I'm really confused
Cannot find a solution either searching the forums or via Google so perhaps someone can help by answering this post:
Got an XDA Orbit that works fine when I insert either an O2 sim or a vodaphone sim (so the phone appears not to be locked) but not when I use a 3 (three) sim. When I insert a 3 (three) sim I get the message "Invalid or missing SIM card". I have 2x three sims and both do the same thing. However both the 3 (three) sims work fine in my XDA exec and Sony Ericson K610i so there appears to be no fault with the sim. So if the SIM appears to work and the phone appears to be unlocked what else is there?
I have considered upgrading the ROM but there seem to be a lot of people either turning this phone into a brick or breaking wifi (needed) while updating the ROM on the Orbit. If someone can point me to a rom that works without doing either that might be a solution.
Details of ROM XDA Orbit is running:
ROM version: 1.25.206.2 WWE
ROM date: 10/4/06
Radio version: 02.67.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.28
ExtROM version: 1.25.206.101
Any thoughts or idea's welcome
PS. I have also tried inserting a little paper between the battery & the SIM as suggested in some of the forum posts which didn't work.
3 is a 3g network only, the Artemis is not a 3g phone.
Older 3 USIMS used to work, but when 3 noticed you were constantly roaming onto O2 (who provide 3 with their backup network, at a cost to 3) they blocked those SIMS. Newer ones simply don't work at all in 2.5g phones.
Upgrading the ROM would make no difference, you would need to change the handset to a different model to use the 3 network, but then frankly I never understand why anyone would want to.
i thought the same thing as the post above...but what made me wonder is why the 3 sim cards are working inthe xda 2s which is not a 3g phone.
maybe its not the 3 sim cards that are at fault here after....as hard as that is to belive
hey guys,
three sim cards will not function at all unless the phone is 3g enabled.
Remi
Even if the phone was 3g, 3 used to block IMEIs of phones not sold by them. Nice. Don't know if they still do that though.
update
arielc - my error, sim does not work in XDA2 (tested again), 3rd phone tested was a Sony K610i -> have updated initial post to remove error.
LargePig - The XDA Exec I have was bought from O2 and does work 100% (so far).
Gajet - I think you are right. Is there any way for the phone to fake to the sim that it is a 3G phone? I realise this is probably grasping at straws but thought I should ask just in case.
Assuming it is impossible to get the 3 SIMs to work any idea on what these are worth? I'm depressed askign this as it is a realy nice phone & I would prefer to keep it.
D1bbl3r said:
Gajet - I think you are right. Is there any way for the phone to fake to the sim that it is a 3G phone? I realise this is probably grasping at straws but thought I should ask just in case.
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No the lack of function occurs when the SIM tries to register on the network I believe, so it instantly knows it can't register on the UMTS (3g) network, and because it hasn't tried it is blocked from registering on the GSM (2.5g) network.
Any 3g enabled phone should work, and there are 3g HTC pocket PC devices such as the Universal etc. but they all tend to be bulkier.
3 has to stop this behaviour because they have no GSM backup of their own and therefore they pay O2 to provide their backup, this means they make little (if any) money on those calls.
Personally I don't think 3 are as cheap compared to the other networks as they used to be, the other networks have had to try and attract customers back. You could get a SIM from the other networks for a fiver at the most. My personal recomendation at the moment is a T-Mobile Flext and Web & Walk Tariff.
As for the value of the 3 USIMS, Have a look on Ebay at what they are going for, they do have a sale value.
I'm absolutely baffled that I'm the only one apparently suffering from this.
At first it was ok, now, no matter what ROM or base, the signal quality is terrible.
Where my HTC Sensation was getting full bars, or constant HSDPA (I rarely ever seen 3G), this One X is either getting 3G, G or E, which means no web pages will load or anything, very terrible.
It's making me consider "downgrading to upgrade", because the only time I can browse the net happily is either very close to Wi-Fi source, or where HSDPA is very strong, so I will just about get HSDPA then.
Other people must be suffering from this?????
The only plus with the One X is in my village I find it easier to get 1-2 bars and a bit of G.
Thanks.
Talk Mobile??? What's their coverage like?
Do you know what your Radio is? Try flashing a few different radio's to see if that helps?
Talk Mobile is on the Vodaphone network.
I've never attempted to flash a different radio, in fact I've never even seen a list of radios, as far as I knew they were included in the actual ROMs now.
willhub said:
Talk Mobile is on the Vodaphone network.
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I didn't know that
willhub said:
I've never attempted to flash a different radio, in fact I've never even seen a list of radios, as far as I knew they were included in the actual ROMs now.
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Afaik some of the Devs have access to different radio's, Try asking Mike1986 from ARHD or Football to see if they can help you.
I'm sure that I've seen some threads about flashing different radios to fix signal problems before, I think to see Mike1986 posting about it when I used to frequent the HTC Sensation's Android Development threads.
Hi
willhub said:
I'm absolutely baffled that I'm the only one apparently suffering from this.
At first it was ok, now, no matter what ROM or base, the signal quality is terrible.
Where my HTC Sensation was getting full bars, or constant HSDPA (I rarely ever seen 3G), this One X is either getting 3G, G or E, which means no web pages will load or anything, very terrible.
It's making me consider "downgrading to upgrade", because the only time I can browse the net happily is either very close to Wi-Fi source, or where HSDPA is very strong, so I will just about get HSDPA then.
Other people must be suffering from this?????
The only plus with the One X is in my village I find it easier to get 1-2 bars and a bit of G.
Thanks.
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It is probably a hardware fault with the phone. If your HTC Sensation is getting a good signal with the same SIM/network provider, and your HTC One X isn't, then I suspect a fault, perhaps internal antenna connection issues that have plagued Wi-Fi. Try gently squeezing the phone with your thumb over the home key and fingers underneath and see if reception improves.
There is also an internal cable that may not have been attached correctly in the phone to the antenna, either way it is back for a repair.
I can't see way a software would be to blame.
Regards
Phil
I have the same issue. I will use my warranty
Castellano2 said:
I have the same issue. I will use my warranty
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Some old Sim card have problems
If you have a old 3 or 5 Sim card its the problem , they are different and have have bad reception with new phones, with MicroSIM slot
i have to change my SIM card at vodafone and ask for a new one ...
Because my sim card is old and i cut it to micro sim but have bad signal
with new microSim card the problem as been solved
masrterk said:
Some old Sim card have problems
If you have a old 3 or 5 Sim card its the problem , they are different and have have bad reception with new phones, with MicroSIM slot
i have to change my SIM card at vodafone and ask for a new one ...
Because my sim card is old and i cut it to micro sim but have bad signal
with new microSim card the problem as been solved
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Why a old sim product a bad signal ??
How strange !!!
htc 51 said:
Why a old sim product a bad signal ??
How strange !!!
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vodafone replace my old SIM card for a new one
and the reception problem has been solved
Because the micro chip of old sim cards and different and they work if cutted for micro sim but very bad
old Sim cards are not ready for micro sim phones
New micro sim cards have a smaller "chip" and the y have a better 3G reception
problem solved
masrterk said:
vodafone replace my old SIM card for a new one
and the reception problem has been solved
Because the micro chip of old sim cards and different and they work if cutted for micro sim but very bad
old Sim cards are not ready for micro sim phones
New micro sim cards have a smaller "chip" and the y have a better 3G reception
problem solved
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I'm using the micro SIM that was provided.
The signal reception bars are never really different, it's just the phones inability to hold a decent HSDPA connection, constantly flicking from 3G, G and E, so I'm loading a website on HSDPA, as soon as it flicks to 3G, loading stops because the connection is far too slow.
I do have the Wi-Fi issue, if the signal is not full on, so I'm a bit away from the router, the wireless is just cutting out all the time, was not like this with HTC Sensation.
I don't really know about getting it sent in for repair I won't have a phone then!
If you get 3G, then you get H, they are the same technology.
What you will find, however, is that the One X supports fast dormancy, so the data connection will sit on 3G until H is needed, then switch, then drop back to 3G when it's not.
you guys tried flashing different radios?
Is it fast dormancy causing the problems then? How can I disable it?
I can't flash different radios as it's very hard to find different radios for the One X
Apparently you have to to change the build.prop to disable it:
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=0
Hi
masrterk said:
vodafone replace my old SIM card for a new one
and the reception problem has been solved
Because the micro chip of old sim cards and different and they work if cutted for micro sim but very bad
old Sim cards are not ready for micro sim phones
New micro sim cards have a smaller "chip" and the y have a better 3G reception
problem solved
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The SIM card doesn't control reception, that is a myth. The SIM card is just like the chip in your credit card, it holds a number and some data to identify you to the mobile phone network.
The problems a self cut or old SIM my cause is that it doesn't connect very well to the phone, this means your phone thinks the SIM card has been removed and gives you "No Service" or Emergency only calls.
The only other time the SIM card may make you think it is affecting reception and giving you a lower signal is if you are roaming and it you don't have an up to date roaming list, usually though this is updated over the air anyway, a new SIM card may allow you to roam onto nearer cells so you see a better signal.
A bad SIM will not knock a couple of a bars off your reception, in the same way a bad credit card doesn't give you less credit limit.
Regards
Phil
Rusty! said:
Apparently you have to to change the build.prop to disable it:
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=0
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How do I do this?
http://bit.ly/O4EL9H
Sent from HTC One X
Download and flash another radio from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689679
Try getting radio from ur region or ruu..
Next get this app : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sibbor.getril
Get a matching ril to radio u installed from.this app..download & install
See if this makes the difference..
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
try OpenSignalMaps from the market to see what's really going on (click on 'map' for example will show what cell you're connected to and signal strength etc)
I tried that OpenSignalMaps, I notice how my phone is connecting to some nearby towers, but I live near a place called Selby, and it's connecting to masts in Leeds????
I have this phone from China. Problem is sim card slot n1 with LTE and 3g connection its not working. Works only with china telecom card. Phone is already modificated somehow so google services works well. Twrp is installed too. Do you know is there anyway to unlock simcard slot? Slot number 2 works with other cards but its only 2g. Maybe somekind custom rom or anything. I dont know is rooting help at all? This is realy sad situation for me. Phone is almost useles now. If somebody can help me its make me realy happy. THANK YOU!
Build number: lmy47x.g9209KEU2colb
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i have such problem. 1slot 4g 3g not working but 2slot working only 2g. phone from chinatelecom and phone without google services.
Hi everyone!
I've surfed all I've found here about Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite and the bands/carrier problems here in the USA, but I can't solve my problem. Here are the facts:
I have a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Global Version, Android 10 updated, not flashed, not root, works perfect and I love it.
I moved to USA from Spain 1 month ago, I got a new SIM from T-Mobile and the first two days worked, but suddenly lost the connection, not only data but calls and messages.
If I change that SIM with another one, (also T-Mobile, my boyfriend bought it the same day, same plan), then it works again but after some hours not signal again.
I've been doing this SIM change over the last 2 weeks, but it is really uncomfortable, I've tried to get a pattern but it doesn't depend on the time that the SIM is on the phone (it can be operative 2 hours or 2 days) nor in the data used or in the area.
When I lost the signal, the SIM is recognized but is like I was inside a deep cave with no coverage.
There is no way to recover the signal, I've tried airplane mode, rebooting several times, reinserting SIM, port change, even changing the SIM and changing it back, but nothing.
When I have signal I get T-Mobile 4G LTE and runs smoothly.
My SIM ports are fine because both read my Spanish SIM card, and the SIMs cards work perfectly because my bf can use both.
I don't know if is a network compatibility problem, he has a POCO X3 that supports the same bands and he gets signal all the time.
I bought a new SIM card from Mint just to check if it was about the carrier, and It does not work either, even when the phone compatibility says that should work.
I'm stuck now
Any advice? Should I buy a new phone to live in the states? (I'm going to be here for a year and I'm spending so much money on moving in that I would prefer not)
Thank you in advance!