What is the purpose of Wifi on the watch?? - Samsung Galaxy Watch

Can someone please tell me what is the role of the Wifi on the Galaxy Watch?
I read that it is supposed to give me my notifications if i walk out of blue tooth range but it does no such thing. In fact it disconnects.
It says I am connected and then it goes off. I have it on AUTO. I assume when I am not in blue tooth range it should connect. It does nothing like that. What is the difference between auto and always on? I can't find this documentation anywhere!
Second...what does it even do?
Also, will this work with a big hospital wifi? I have it on on my phone, I turn on the wifi ON ALWAYS and it comes on ,but auto it does not. What is the difference?
So I guess my questions are:
1. Why does my WIFI connect and then go off after a brief amount of time??. This happens while I am on a hospital wifi that is connected to my phone, allows me to connect for maybe 10 - 60 seconds then the wifi icon goes away. Is this because it is a public wifi? I know that I am connected but it is lost.
2. Whenever I connect to this wifi, I have to turn on the wifi ALWAYS ON to see the options. That's stupid! What is the function of the AUTO then??
Any help would be needed because I want to be able to fully use the functions of my watch.

I work in a hospital and sometimes leave my phone in my office. The WiFi on my watch kicks in and I do receive all of my notifications. The only thing is that I cannot respond to them and I am guessing it's because I use a pixel 3xl and not a Samsung phone...

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Wifi App?

Is there a wifi app that selects the strongest signal for you to connect to? I have a router in one part of the house and I connect to it using the 5G band. We put in a good wifi extender that covers the other part of the house. I also connect to it using the 5G band. When I go from one far side of the house to the other, the closest access point gives me full bars while the other one only has 1. But my phone will stay connected to the old one. Even if the wifi shuts off when the phone is in deep sleep when I wake it up it will connect to the weaker one. So I was wondering if there was an app that would force it to connect to the best signal.
Just installed "Best Wifi" yesterday and it seems to accomplish this fine, although the notification it makes is not required for me while walking around the house. There are several other apps I found that should work for this as well. "Best Wifi" allows you to set the signal strength at which it will start looking for your other signal.
I further enhanced this with "Llama". I have Llama tell the phone when I get in my home zone, which then turns wifi on. When wifi connects, "Llama" then turns on "Best Wifi". And the reverse, when I leave home "Llama" kills "Best Wifi", and then shuts off the wifi altogether.

Help me understand how wifi is supposed to work

I am finding many instances where I am getting the cloud icon when I am at home. My watch has both of my access points set up. Sometimes I will get the cloud and I will be 10 feet away from an access point and within line of site while my phone is sitting even less than that from another access point and also in line of sight, and when I check the phone it is connected to wifi.
I thought being on the same LAN was supposed to be functionally equivalent to having a Bluetooth connection.
I have also noticed that the watch does not seem to automatically connect to wifi when it loses the BT connection even though I have it set to automatic in the settings.
I am not going to carry my phone all over the house like a goofball so that the watch works. Wifi capability was one of the things I was waiting for for this very reason. It makes the watch WAY more useful...but it actually has to work properly.
brizey said:
I am finding many instances where I am getting the cloud icon when I am at home. My watch has both of my access points set up. Sometimes I will get the cloud and I will be 10 feet away from an access point and within line of site while my phone is sitting even less than that from another access point and also in line of sight, and when I check the phone it is connected to wifi.
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I thought being on the same LAN was supposed to be functionally equivalent to having a Bluetooth connection.
Have experienced the same. However, it may not be the watch problem and may be the Google cloud ☁ service.
vvveith said:
I thought being on the same LAN was supposed to be functionally equivalent to having a Bluetooth connection.
Have experienced the same. However, it may not be the watch problem and may be the Google cloud service.
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Experiencing the same thing more and more often.
My phone (N6) is connected to either wifi or 4G; my watch connects to wif's as well. Nonetheless when disconnected from bluetooth it disconects completely (The Cloud thingy).
Why? I must be doing something wrong, Android Wear is new to me.

wifi

Hi
If I understand correctly the wifi will only work if the phone is close by
I read elsewhere that other smart watches will connect directly to wifi
even if the phone is not on
can someone please clarify & will this option come with future updates ?
Thanks
The phone needs to be only in a close range if you're connected by Bluetooth. If you're connected to a WiFi network, the phone just needs an internet connection and can be on the other side of the world.
foo said:
The phone needs to be only in a close range if you're connected by Bluetooth. If you're connected to a WiFi network, the phone just needs an internet connection and can be on the other side of the world.
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Thanks Foo
But it doesn't seem to be the case with mine
If I am at home or at work it will connect easily with the Wifi but only if the phone is there
without the phone its saying disconnected , maybe I am missing something
I did a test recently with mine. I left my paired smartphone (Smartphone_A) far out of range of my watch (>100m within a company building). The watch signaled that it is disconnected as it was only connected by Bluetooth before. The smartphone itself was only connected to a 3G network (no WiFi active).
I used a second smartphone (Smartphone_B, obviously not paired with the watch) and activated the mobile hotspot on it. I connected the watch to the mobile hotspot using WiFi and was able to connect to my paired smartphone:
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Watch<---WiFi<--->Smartphone_B<--------->3G mobile data<--------->Smartphone_A
<--------------------receive notifications-------------------------->
I was really surprised that this worked, but it did, so I'm pretty sure, that they do not have to be both connected to the same WiFi or be within a close range.
The question is, why is it not working for you. How do you check, that you are connected to the WiFi?
foo said:
I did a test recently with mine. I left my paired smartphone (Smartphone_A) far out of range of my watch (>100m within a company building). The watch signaled that it is disconnected as it was only connected by Bluetooth before. The smartphone itself was only connected to a 3G network (no WiFi active).
I used a second smartphone (Smartphone_B, obviously not paired with the watch) and activated the mobile hotspot on it. I connected the watch to the mobile hotspot using WiFi and was able to connect to my paired smartphone:
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Watch<---WiFi<--->Smartphone_B<--------->3G mobile data<--------->Smartphone_A
<--------------------receive notifications-------------------------->
I was really surprised that this worked, but it did, so I'm pretty sure, that they do not have to be both connected to the same WiFi or be within a close range.
The question is, why is it not working for you. How do you check, that you are connected to the WiFi?
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Strange
with my phone on no problems it shows my house & work network on the watch & connects showing the correct SSID
with phone off I tested it 2 ways 1 clicked on google app (disconnected ) 2 Settings- About -Connection (disconnected )
Brgds
I see the problem, I also may have misunderstood the actual problem.
The status (Google app/about) which you are referring to shows if you're connected to your watch. If your phone is off, the watch can't connect to the phone. Even if the watch is connected to your WiFi, the watch will not go directly to the internet, but will use the WiFi connection to connect to your phone (cloudsync).
You can check the WiFi connection in the WiFi setting. See if the watch was assigned an IP address, if there is one, then you're connected to the WiFi.
I think you expected that the watch can directly connect to the internet and use things like Google now directly. but this is not possible.
foo said:
I see the problem, I also may have misunderstood the actual problem.
The status (Google app/about) which you are referring to shows if you're connected to your watch. If your phone is off, the watch can't connect to the phone. Even if the watch is connected to your WiFi, the watch will not go directly to the internet, but will use the WiFi connection to connect to your phone (cloudsync).
You can check the WiFi connection in the WiFi setting. See if the watch was assigned an IP address, if there is one, then you're connected to the WiFi.
I think you expected that the watch can directly connect to the internet and use things like Google now directly. but this is not possible.
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Yes
I checked a few things, my phone was on & the google app works, turn phone off & the google app says disconnected
in wifi settings even with phone off it says obtaining IP then connects so I thought it would connect to google app
so if I understand correctly it wont connect directly to internet but the phone (cloudsync) even if the phone is on or off
Thanks for taking the time to clarify
tclough said:
so if I understand correctly it wont connect directly to internet
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correct
tclough said:
but the phone (cloudsync) even if the phone is on or off
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it will connect to the phone by cloudsync only if the phone is on.
foo said:
correct
it will connect to the phone by cloudsync only if the phone is on.
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Thanks
all seems a bit pointless to have a wifi connection but cant really use it do anything
maybe some apps or updates in the future that will utilize the wifi option ??
Thx
I guess wifi is just helpful if you get out of range of the Bluetooth connection.
At home I often get out of range of the Bluetooth connection so the watch connects to my wifi and reconnects to my watch via cloudsync as long as I stay out of Bluetooth range.
When the watch gets back in reach it connects via Bluetooth again, because this is much better for battery life.
So wifi is only there to increase range but unfortunately not for standalone functionality. I also have a Youtube client and a webbrowser on my watch (just for fun, not really useful). Both apps also need the watch and will not use a direct wifi connection to load videos/websites from the Internet.

Wifi loosing connectivity (H815)

This has been plaguing me for a while and it's making me hate this phone. I've also seen this issue pop around the internet so it's not just me.
What happens is the wifi stays connected to the router but has no connectivity (i've tried pinging the gateway when it happens, the connection is dead although it is listed in the router as connected). And it happens totally random, sometimes it works entire day, sometimes it happens every hour or worse. This seems to have gotten worse with MM. I used to be able to fix it with turning wifi off/on but now even reboot wont help (it connects to the router but immediately says no internet on wifi), i have to reset wifi on the router for it to start working. I have 2 other androids (kitkat, lolipop), an iphone 5, tablet with a hybrid OS, 2 laptops and a desktop on the wifi working without issues so that kinda rules out the router as the sole culprit (it's a Technicolor crap from my ISP that i can't change, i can only buy an additional AP but i have no idea it will help). Ofc, when the connectivity is lost, the phone is still connected to the wifi, hence doesn't switch to network and i stop receiving notifications, which is driving me insane (also a work phone).
I recently installed an app ("wifi connection manager", the app itself is fairly useless, half the stuff doesn't really work that well, and all the options are really things you can do manually) that has a background service that i thought would keep the connection alive. It worked for about a week and then all of a sudden it stopped. I've tries everything else, short of reflashing the phone.
So after ****ing around for the 1000th time, trying to figure it out i realized that turning the WMM off (router QoS) stops the connectivity issues. Problem with this solution is that my download rate over the wifi drops by half immediately (from 50mbit to 25) and after a while all the wifi connections start to deteriorate to the point where it becomes painfully slow. What's more puzzling however is that when i do turn it off, the G4 connects via 802.11g (and for some reason this makes the connection not lose connectivity). Other devices connect via 802.11n whether WMM is off or on (except the desktop, which has an old wifi card, also on 11g).
Sorry for the wall of text. This and the anticipation of a bootloop is making me seriously regret my purchase.
So my two questions are:
1. Is there a way for me to force the G4 to connect via 802.11g even when WMM is On ? It obviously chooses how to connect on it's own.
2. Given the history of events, is there a network guy somewhere here that could identify wth is going on ?
Thanks a lot for those that made it this far

wifi connection turns itself off

Had my galaxy watch about a month now. I have set wifi to auto but I find it resets itself to off. I then set wifi to on and then it still turns off. Any ideas on what is going on? I may have to contact Samsung and I dread doing so.
WiFi shall only be used if the watch loses the connection to your phone. It is only used for the remote connection feature, where the Bluetooth connection between watch and phone is lost afaik
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It is set to turn on when I lose BT connection. It can't turn on because the watch has turned wifi completely off
I have my WiFi set to automatic and that works just as expected. Connects to WiFi when Bluetooth connection drops.
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I had that problem and I've only gotten my watch for a couple of days. I just turned on wifi to auto when the watch was connected to bluetooth and it just kept going that way for the time being.
Update: I've seen that the WiFi turns itaelf off again after some time. I'm pretty curious to know what causes that.
Have had my watch five days now and have experienced the problem of not being able to reconnect to Wi-Fi..
Define a Wi-Fi connection to be used 'Auto' (when out of reach of BT). But next time the watch is out of BT-reach it is stuck in 'Connecting ...' ( seen in the status of Wi-Fi).
Have reported this as an issue ( I'm in Denmark) and got the answer: Try to 'Reset' - otherwise wait for an update.
My software version is: R815FXXU1BRHB
Maybe it is a router problem. In German forums some dudes have problems with fritz Box router. It does connect only once to the router.
I also noticed that. Probably watch tries to save battery life. It turns on again when you start to do something. Personally I find out as good feature. No drawback.
bagmanone said:
I also noticed that. Probably watch tries to save battery life. It turns on again when you start to do something. Personally I find out as good feature. No drawback.
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It is not because there are three options Wi-Fi (off), Wi-Fi (on) and Wi-Fi (auto). The later should (re)connect to Wi-Fi when out of reach of BT (the first two are manual). But the reconnect is never completed, stays in "Connecting ...".
What do you mean by "It turns on again when you start to do something."? My watch does not for the above reason (connection is never completed).
Doing manual Wi-Fi connection to same Wi-Fi works fine. When out of reach of BT to mobile it is connected to 4G network.
pkylle said:
It is not because there are three options Wi-Fi (off), Wi-Fi (on) and Wi-Fi (auto). The later should (re)connect to Wi-Fi when out of reach of BT (the first two are manual). But the reconnect is never completed, stays in "Connecting ...".
What do you mean by "It turns on again when you start to do something."? My watch does not for the above reason (connection is never completed).
Doing manual Wi-Fi connection to same Wi-Fi works fine. When out of reach of BT to mobile it is connected to 4G network.
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I use option Always On. For the option watch turn off Wifi when it is not used at all. Watch turns Wifi on when I start to use watch. It is only my observation. I don't know is that indented behave for GW.
bagmanone said:
I use option Always On. For the option watch turn off Wifi when it is not used at all. Watch turns Wifi on when I start to use watch. It is only my observation. I don't know is that indented behave for GW.
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Have you tried the Wi-Fi (auto)?
pkylle said:
Have you tried the Wi-Fi (auto)?
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Not really, I usually need Wifi to connect the internet.
bagmanone said:
Not really, I usually need Wifi to connect the internet.
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The watch will connect to the internet using BT to the mobile if within range.
pkylle said:
It is not because there are three options Wi-Fi (off), Wi-Fi (on) and Wi-Fi (auto). The later should (re)connect to Wi-Fi when out of reach of BT (the first two are manual). But the reconnect is never completed, stays in "Connecting ...".
What do you mean by "It turns on again when you start to do something."? My watch does not for the above reason (connection is never completed).
Doing manual Wi-Fi connection to same Wi-Fi works fine. When out of reach of BT to mobile it is connected to 4G network.
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The sync Wi-Fi profiles setting seems to cause the the watch forgets the Wi-Fi password. This shows up as with that "connecting..." state. Try to remove that sync option from the wear app on phone and see if that helps.
I would like to use the Wi-Fi (auto) setting, but for some reason the watch changes that back to Wi-Fi (off) by itself. No idea how to make the watch to remember the setting.
miloytyn said:
The sync Wi-Fi profiles setting seems to cause the the watch forgets the Wi-Fi password. This shows up as with that "connecting..." state. Try to remove that sync option from the wear app on phone and see if that helps.
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Wow! That did it but this shows there clearly is an error in the sync. option. Did someone report that to Samsung?
Thanks.
miloytyn said:
The sync Wi-Fi profiles setting seems to cause the the watch forgets the Wi-Fi password. This shows up as with that "connecting..." state. No idea how to make the watch to remember the setting.
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Just bought this watch today. I have the same problem
Disablem "syncing" in connection setting on phone app cures the pproblem
Same issue here.
Just bought the watch and set it on Always on wifi but noticed that it disconnects after some time and then refuses to connect to the same SSID. It either says, authentication error, cannot connect to ...., or doesn't say anything.
Restarting the watch fixes it temporarily.
Keeping it on Auto, does not change from bluetooth to wifi when out of range.
Sync profiles is on. I will try with it off.
Did anyone figure the solution to the issue?
I am facing the same issue

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