I was using the Lite 1.3.3.3 for about a month without any problems, then the other morning I turned off my phone and pulled my SD card to copy some music onto it using a USB MicroSD adaptor. This is a usual activity for me.
When I popped the card back in the phone and rebooted, Swiftkey, Uninstaller and ROM Manager force closed upon boot. I had to uninstall Swiftkey to stop the messages showing, neither of the other two apps were responding, upon further inspection, more apps were doing this.
Previous to this, the Market stopped downloading apps, GoogleTalk constantly give me errors about being able to authenticate and I could no longer store contacts to my google account. I figured there was a problem with Google's servers, but this continued for a week.
So, I installed the 1.4.1.0 version, figuring it was newer and probably fixed whatever was wrong with the Lite version. Today, the same thing happened to me, only this time, more apps died on me, many of them resetting their data. Rather frustrating. Also, ROM Manager, some time ago, stopped finishing the "Fix Permissions" process. It'd hang at random points, on random apps, each time I restarted it, it'd get a little closer. However, restarting the process 100-some times wasn't feasable.
I now have 1.3.3.3 installed, with Data2EXT, fresh. However, I'm going to download and install 1.4.1.1 classic, and strip out all the rubbish that comes with it (why the dev doesn't update their Lite version, I don't know, none of the preinstalled apps show in the market available to be updated. Useless!)
It can also take an extremely long time to show the screen when I push the power button
Here's the important bit:
This is the best ROM I've used so far, in that it took a month before it force closed into unusability. However, is this user error? Am I at fault here? I never did a hot reboot, as I know this isn't good for data2EXT installs. What gives?
And the 1.4.1.1 version does NOT install Data2EXT for you. So there is no "intelligent Data2EXT" installation with that version. What a massive waste of my time.
i have been on several roms and when i hit about 250apps+ on my internal memory my apps start to not show up in the app drawer but they are still installed then when i restart the launcher my all my apps will show but then again after 10min its the same thing..my apps start to disappear leaving me with about 20 in there? i have been on gingerbread and ics, is this normal for the sgs2?
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i took sd card out then in twice and phone would not read it until i rebooted my phone now it can see my sd card hence apps are all back as normal. why does my phone kick out the sd card like that?
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By any chance did you change kernels after loading those apps?
in my case my sd card kept un mounting not diminishing in available capacity. yup i did why? im on calkin el29 3.0 and then to flash the modem i did for just in case. Im going to have a little R&R over at the thread to see if it happens to other people. also does the below link could apply to the sgs2 system as well and work as a fix if needed?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863222
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863222
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I was killing apps with that task killer and i think that's what happened there is no option to exclude apps?
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actually i have the issue again and its not the task killer this time. and its the internel storage not the sd card is there a fix
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Fast Boot option may be the culprit
So, maybe the disappearing apps has nothing to do with storage type (sdcard, internal phone) and task killers?
This is actually a long-standing problem in Android OS, going back at least two years (donkey's years in this technology!)
Something about the interaction of the OS and an sdcard formated for holding apps creates odd behaviours.
Lots of complicated suggestions have been made, including reformatting sdcard, reinstalling ROMs, changing launchers (the one suggested here) and such.
None of these approaches seems really to solve the problem even in most cases.
What seems to be working for me (at least for the last week or so) is the following very simple tweak.
CUT TO THE SOLUTION BELOW -- SEARCH FOR ////
Some (not all) of my apps moved to SD (all by Titanium Backup Pro) have begun to disappear and (sometimes) reappear without warning after I began to add and delete large Virtual Machines created in QEMU from my 16GB SanDisc class 10 microSD card on my HTC Droid Incredible running rooted stock Verizon Android Froyo 2.2.3. I know this thread is far from my phone's "home base", but from what I can tell this problem with disappearing apps located on an sdcard is NOT determined by hardware or even Android version.
I also happen to use LauncherPro by Federico Carnales instead of the built-in HTC Sense launcher. I noted elsewhere on XDA that a user had suggested that because at least some (maybe all) launchers start before the SD Card that this may be a problem, especially if changes are made to the sdcard that the launcher did not perform, or was not active during their performance by other apps such as Titanium Backup. That fits my situation, because I unmounted the SD, physically removed it to a PC, and added/deleted large VM files to save (lots) of time. No problems of this sort before I did this, so there must be some connection.
I noted that other users have tried reformatting SD, substituting different brands of SD, using newer/older SD etc. None of these reliably helped. So I skipped these options.
//// The (simple!) solution I tried that SEEMS to work (only time will tell!) is buried in the main Android Settings (accessed from the Menu button while in Home screen). Under "Applications" there is a setting "Fast Boot" that I checked long ago and forgot about (it seemed like a good thing to do at the time). The text warns "Turn off to use some Market apps" (that shows the age of my 2-yr old used phone and Android OS -- ohmygosh!-- because it refers to Market rather than Google Play Store!) Anyway, I unchecked the option and rebooted the phone.
Yes, it took a bit longer to boot (maybe a whole minute!), but after waiting about another minute ALL my home screen apps had normal icons and loaded properly. Titanium Backup Pro batch scenarios confirmed there were no apps in a forced uninstalled state (i.e. I had not done the deed, the system somehow had done it or at least rendered the apps "invisible" to Titanium, which decided they needed reinstallation).
The only odd behaviour was that auto brightness was turned off after I unchecked Fast Boot and rebooted. Going into Android Settings > Display and rechecking "auto brightness" took care of that. No other oddities or strange behaviours thus far (but it has only been about an hour).
I will report anything further on this thread only (Samsung Fascinate > Fascinate Q&A > What just happend? apps on sdcard) if anything else requires reporting. Silence implies success!
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873670
(I am copying this post to other relevant threads, but will not post anything further elsewhere -- only there. This is a bit arbitrary (especially now that the chosen thread no longer is the most recent active one on this topic), but I hope this approach pleases the XDA sysops/admins) :angel:
I've been getting an external storage is low warning after downloading apps on google play. When I go to settings and check my storage space it shows that I'm not even close to being low. Has anyone else been having this problem?
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Yes, I have seen it only once. It happened when downloading multiple apps.
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Hope it's just a fixable bug and won't cause any problems down the line.
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After this notification all my app updates fail to install!
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Yes, I have seen it only once. It happened when downloading multiple apps.
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I'm seeing the same thing, but not just once. For the past couple of weeks (since mid-October or so) this is happening every time I run Play Store update (which I have set not to occur automatically, but it makes no difference even when I change it back).
More importantly, once external storage reports it is in the range of 1 MB or so, every app thereafter dutifully downloads and then fails to install with error message: "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card". Both "USB storage" (internal to phone but treated like a USB device) and SD card are multi-GB, and there is plenty of room. Still, no installation! :crying:
As I said, I have never saw this happen before the last couple of weeks.
Based on the limited info thus far on this little thread here, I'm not so sure it is my device or apps at all. Still, I will share what I did prior to finding this thread in the hope that it will help others and perhaps give clues to a skilled dev out there. :fingers-crossed:
At first, I thought it was something about my particular device/setup, which I find is almost always the case. Here are my basic particulars:
Droid Incredible "dinc", rooted, security OFF, with Tiny's mod of CM 10.1 (Jelly Bean 4.2.2), plus Tiny's ext4all patch to expand internal memory space to about 748MB.
My internal memory is getting a bit low despite moving most apps to SD card but it is still respectable:
"settings-->apps-->all" reports 200MB "internal storage" free, while Titanium Backup Pro summary for "internal" reports 249MB free.
(Can't quite figure why there is a difference in the numbers, but in this case it shouldn't matter.)
The only other significant recent additions of apps is that I purchased and installed the full version of "Air Control" game on 29 Sept. and purchased a 1-yr sub for Avast Mobile Security (AMS) on 3 Sept. The problem came about some time later, but Air Control's apparently forced presence in internal storage (see workaround #2 below) and AMS's involvement in scanning every app installation may be contributing factor(s).
As far as I can determine from Avast support resources, AMS scanning cannot be turned off temporarily and would have to be fully uninstalled, which is also not very easy on a rooted phone. So I have thus far left that stone unturned!
Maybe this bug is caused by Google Play Store client app or the Google online system? I followed the troubleshooting steps on the "known issues" Google Play Store page -- click on "Contact Us" to launch the troubleshooter and select "Download Unsuccessful":
Google Play Store support page
1. Clearing Google Play and Download Manager data caches alone made no difference.
2. Doing #1 AND rebooting my device did allow successful "update all" multiple installations.
3. Remounting SD Card was suggested, but I have not tried that option as yet. Maybe it would help?
Prior to tweaking the Play Store app (which may be all that is really needed), I found a couple of other workarounds that at least allow me to update my apps with a minimum of fuss -- no rebooting or labourious individual cache clearing required! Maybe these will help others, too:
1. Installed AVG Cleaner app that makes it easy to clear cache from download history + app caches in one swoop. It seemed to make a difference with some but not all of the smaller apps (<5MB), but no go with larger apps like Twitter and Chrome (>5MB). Not absolutely certain this tweak is really doing anything to help out this situation.
2. Uninstalled the game "Air Control" paid version that stubbornly refuses to be moved to SD Card. Titanium Backup Pro (TBP) says it moves it, but in fact it does not. At least some large chunk of it remains in internal storage. Once I uninstalled Air Control using TBP, I was able to install all updates, BUT ONLY MANUALLY (i.e. one at a time) in Play Store. Auto-updating and "update all" in Play Store continued to fail, whether the low external storage warning appeared or not.
3. I searched the web to see what fixes I could find, and came up with a recommendation for Lucky Patcher (LP), which reportedly can remove all traces of a misbehaving app through its "Troubleshooting" process.
Here is where I found this recommendation (see under "Option 1"):
How-to-fix-insufficient-storage-available-error-on-android-phones
I am now aware that LP is warez and does some pretty nasty things to crack security on apps (definitely not what I want to do -- I pay developers when they ask for it and am happy to support them!). :angel: I just wonder if LP's less nasty function of app cleaning would resolve this current issue. I actually haven't tried using LP yet in any respect.
Better yet, is there some other less potentially destructive app than LP or some other tweak/procedure that will fix this bug/issue?
As I said earlier, I have not taken the step of uninstalling Avast Mobile Security since it is so involved on a rooted Android.
Hoping there is a skilled dev or two out there who can tackle this one, or at least evaluate the workarounds and tweaks listed here. :fingers-crossed:
Autokiller Pro seems to help
Installing AutoKiller Pro (the paid version) and activating all the tweaks seems to end the problem.
I have had one forced reboot since setting up this app's tweaks, but this happens occasionally anyway, so unless it becomes a more common occurrence, I will not blame the app.
I have never recommended a particular app on XDA before, and I absolutely have no financial or other interest in the app or its dev.
It just seems to work, and all the manual workarounds recommended in my previous post are no longer required. I also do not waste time downloading app updates that the system refuses to install.
Try the free version first if you like, but I found that the tweaks that take effect with the Pro version are the key.
Has something to do with Android 4.3. It happens on my Nexus 7 also.
I would guess it is a TRIM bug. Perhaps the storage is not handling trim correctly.
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I'm not sure if this is an issue with the Pixel 2 XL or an Android OS bug but it's happening on my Pixel 2 XL so I'm adding here.
I have the Google Play Store app set to automatically update apps when connected to WiFi but apps are not updating. I've been connected to my home wifi for several hours and there are still apps waiting to update.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I'm not sure if this is an issue with the Pixel 2 XL or an Android OS bug but it's happening on my Pixel 2 XL so I'm adding here.
I have the Google Play Store app set to automatically update apps when connected to WiFi but apps are not updating. I've been connected to my home wifi for several hours and there are still apps waiting to update.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I feel like it automatically downloads when on WiFi and connected to power even though there's no setting for power connected.
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I'm having this issue too....mine doesn't auto update...even when connected to power and wifi.
I have the same problem. I've literally tried everything I could think of.
Yes! Bump! I've actually been having this problem as far back as February (at least that's around when I noticed) and had been meaning to make a thread, but hadn't gotten to it 'til now; and XDA showed this thread when I was creating so, I'll be pleading here...
I, too, FOR THE LIFE of me can't correct this...!
My setup: running Oreo 8.1 May update, rooted, Flash kernel, TWRP 3.2.1-2 custom recovery, a few Magisk modules (see sig).
Troubleshooting: rebooted, plugged phone in, allowed all permissions and ability to modify system settings, I've changed it to auto-update apps "at any time" (both mobile data & wi-fi), when updating to May patch I wiped the System partition and flashed the May Full Factory image, cleared Play Store app cache, cleared Play Store app data, uninstalled Play Store updates, Disabled Play Store - then Enabled, uninstalled Google Play Services updates / reset to factory version, and finally manually updated Google Play Services.
Anyone, any thoughts/ideas/advice?! I had hoped the last 3 months' security patch updates might fix this, but since it hasn't, my last hope is here...! :begging:
P.S. I am hoping that flashing a full factory image with the -w intact/included is not the last and only option...
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Yes! Bump! I've actually been having this problem as far back as February (at least that's around when I noticed) and had been meaning to make a thread, but hadn't gotten to it 'til now; and XDA showed this thread when I was creating so, I'll be pleading here...
I, too, FOR THE LIFE of me can't correct this...!
My setup: running Oreo 8.1 May update, rooted, Flash kernel, TWRP 3.2.1-2 custom recovery, a few Magisk modules (see sig).
Troubleshooting: rebooted, allowed all permissions and ability to modify system settings, I've changed it to auto-update apps "at any time" (both mobile data & wi-fi), when updating to May patch I wiped the System partition and flashed the May Full Factory image, cleared Play Store app cache, cleared Play Store app data, uninstalled Play Store updates, Disabled Play Store - then Enabled, uninstalled Google Play Services updates / reset to factory version, and finally manually updated Google Play Services.
Anyone, any thoughts/ideas/advice?! I had hoped the last 3 months' security patch updates might fix this, but since it hasn't, my last hope is here...! :begging:
P.S. I am hoping that flashing a full factory image with the -w intact/included is not the last and only option...
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I've said it before that, for me at least, I've noticed it only auto updates when plugged in even if I have plenty of battery like greater than 50%. I'm set to auto update on WiFi only. I'll go into the app store and see I have a handful of update, plug in, and see them to start downloading.
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I've said it before that, for my at least, I've noticed it only auto updates when plugged in even if I have plenty of battery like greater than 50%. I'm set to auto update on WiFi only. I'll go into the app store and see I have a handful of update, plug in, and see them to start downloading.
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I eventually noticed as well that it only updates when plugged in. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with how charged the battery is but I haven't looked too closely at that.
....yea...I've also plugged in as well, i'll edit to reflect that...
...BUT I think I'm onto something...does anyone/everyone that has this problem have Titanium Backup installed and running btw???
Same, only auto updates when plugged in...
I always have Titanium which is running normally... Awesome app!
Yea...I get that apps are really only automatically updating when plugged in. But assuming even that isn't allowing apps to automatically update....
i'm more wondering if @upperbladez and @smokeythebear3 have Titanium Backup installed; as that's what was stopping the updating the apps automatically....
simplepinoi177 said:
Yea...I get that apps are really only automatically updating when plugged in. But assuming even that isn't allowing apps to automatically update....
i'm more wondering if @upperbladez and @smokeythebear3 have Titanium Backup installed; as that's what was stopping the updating the apps automatically....
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I do not have Titanium Backup Installed...I don't have any power saver apps either. It's really agitating
upperbladez said:
I do not have Titanium Backup Installed...I don't have any power saver apps either. It's really agitating
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Yeah...I had really high hopes earlier as well, but found that it wasn't TB. Because there is a setting in the preferences that deals with auto-updating and it seems that, by default, it sets it to Disabled, but even after Enabling it, it hasn't gotten auto-update to work.
I had inadvertently thought it worked because, at the same time as the TB discovery, I reset to factory settings both Google Play Store and Google Play Services (as I have many times before). This seems to have the auto-update work once, but I can't get it to replicate or do it again after this first initial time. Also, it's hard to debug, troubleshoot, and test because I have to wait some time for a number of apps to need updating before I can see if it truly works or not.
I hope someone has an idea or thought that might explain why or help reach an explanation...
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Yeah...I had really high hopes earlier as well, but found that it wasn't TB. Because there is a setting in the preferences that deals with auto-updating and it seems that, by default, it sets it to Disabled, but even after Enabling it, it hasn't gotten auto-update to work.
I had inadvertently thought it worked because, at the same time as the TB discovery, I reset to factory settings both Google Play Store and Google Play Services (as I have many times before). This seems to have the auto-update work once, but I can't get it to replicate or do it again after this first initial time. Also, it's hard to debug, troubleshoot, and test because I have to wait some time for a number of apps to need updating before I can see if it truly works or not.
I hope someone has an idea or thought that might explain why or help reach an explanation...
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Yeah it's so agitating?
I think I figured it out....[GUIDE] included!
I think I figured it out (at least in my case) -- but I think it's probably applicable to most any other(s) who are having the same issue...
First of all, if you have Titanium Backup, make sure to set Default auto-update app to Enabled
Go to Menu
Preferences
Go to Restoration Settings
You will find Default auto-update mode in the section; 4th on the list within that section
Go to Google Play Store App Info
Clear Cache (inside Storage)
Clear Data (also inside Storage)
Disable the app
Click OK when warned that it will "replace this app with the factory version..."
Go to Settings, Apps & Notifications, See all ### apps
At the top right, select the 3 verticle dots and select "Show system"
Find and select Google Play Services
Clear Cache
Go back to App Info (back arrow; arrow pointing left), at the top right, select the 3 vertical dots and select "Uninstall updates"
Click OK when warned that it will "replace with the factory version..."
Reboot
Download the latest Google Play Services
HERE'S one place you can find it and/or you can Google search to find other copies yourself...
Pick the newest latest version (beta if you wish to be on bleeding edge but stability not ensured)
Choose the Android 8.0+ variant
Download the "arm64 + arm" & "nodpi" one
Install the latest Google Play Services using the file you downloaded
Reboot
Go back to Google Play Services App Info (show all ### apps, show system, etc.)
Clear Cache (of Google Play Services)
Go back to "show all ### apps"
Select the drop-down menu and select Disabled
Select Google Play Store
Clear Cache and Data (of Google Play Store inside Storage)
Plug Phone to charger
Launch Google Play Store
Select the 3 stacked horizontal lines on the top left and go to Settings
Select and configure how you wish to auto-update apps
Click on Play Store version (all the way on the bottom)
After pressing OK (it'll most likely say Play Store will update soon), it may or may not begin downloading components for the Play Store. After a bit, it may or may not actually begin auto-updating...
In the few instances I've done this and on the 2 pixel 2's I have access to, the auto-updating may begin soon after (within 2 minutes), or eventually (sorry for vague description, but I had thought these steps didn't work and wasn't paying attention and after a while, I saw it auto-updating!).
Also, it still seems that it'll auto-update only while plugged in charging. That particular bug/requirement hasn't been resolved, but as this is specifically an auto-update troubleshooting thread.......
Hope this helps any/all who is having the same issue. I hope (but am doubtful) that this will work for everyone; but if it doesn't, I'd have to say that it might be something with your ROM (stock or custom), settings (system or another app interfering [As I found out TB actually might/does]), or some very unique bug because this is probably the most comprehensive app reset for Google Play. It's kind of overkill, but you might have some luck going the "last resort" route and flashing the Full Factory image in hopes it'll fix the system and app comparability issues (if that is indeed the reason...).
In the end, I hope this helps any who might be having this issue....:victory::highfive:
I have this same issue. I tried wiping Google Play cache/data and had a hell of a time getting it to show my installed apps after that. I don't have TB installed so I'm not really sure what's going on. It's a PITA having to manually update apps all the time.
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I have this same issue. I tried wiping Google Play cache/data and had a hell of a time getting it to show my installed apps after that. I don't have TB installed so I'm not really sure what's going on. It's a PITA having to manually update apps all the time.
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Yeah....but maybe uninstalling Google Play store (not just cache and data and actually reverting to an older version) and doing the same (sorta) towards Google Play Services is the critical difference (as shown in my guide)... Hopefully that sorts ya out...!:good:
Good luck to ya!
I'm set to auto update over WiFi, and I've never actually paid attention.. but my apps are always updated and I get the notification stating that 13 apps were updated... So it must be working on my end?
EDIT: Not sure if it would make a diff, but I am running latest DU...
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I'm set to auto update over WiFi, and I've never actually paid attention.. but my apps are always updated and I get the notification stating that 13 apps were updated... So it must be working on my end?
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Yes, that's "the dream" . For us/me, that wasn't happening -- for whatever reason; whether it was set to do it over WiFi or both mobile & WiFi.
I used to not pay attention either, until I went and checked and kept finding a list of 50+ apps needing to update and/or all these apps were outdated every 3 or so days! Then I realized I hadn't been getting that which you are experiencing... And, as @corywf as stated, it can get quite tedious and annoying having to manually "Update all" every few days just to keep all the apps up-to-date! (Curious note: I never realized how many times in a small number of days certain apps actually update; it's like every 2 days! Which is nice and good to say towards the app as the devs are continuously working on it -- Instagram, Nextdoor, and Chrome come to mind -- but certainly rather annoying when manually "keeping up") Especially when we've all experienced these things happening automatically and in the background...
I had this issue since the Feb or March update I think but since flashing the May update, apps are back to updating automatically
Tebor said:
I had this issue since the Feb or March update I think but since flashing the May update, apps are back to updating automatically
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That's good! I believe it was around the same time I noticed the issue as well (although as said in my last post, this is usually something that is in the background and done automatically so I can only say it was around this point). I'm glad flashing the latest update worked -- I'm wondering, did you flash a Full Factory or an OTA? -- and hopefully it works for others. But, unfortunately, I had Full Factory flashed to the May update with no such luck. It took my guide (a little up above) to fix it on me and my gf's Pixel 2 (non-XL)...
Cheers! :highfive::victory::good: