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As I have experienced first hand, T-Mobile's wifi calling feature works amazing on my Note 3. The problem is, where I live, work and play we do not get any T-Mobile service above 2g, and mostly nothing at all. I'm actually confused as to why local stores are even selling the service. It simply doesn't work here. Anyhow, I had purchased a month of prepaid service with them because I don't get ANY service from any provider at my home (except Verizon, who comes in at 5 bars in my basement). The wifi calling feature was amazing for this one reason. I never missed a call, or text and life was good. Of course, the moment I left the house my $800.00 Note 3 turned into a very expensive makeup mirror for my wife because, like I mentioned, we don't get T-Mobile here, at all. I still have 2 weeks of the service active, and put the sim into my i-747 S3 for testing.
I'm currently running Hyperdrive RLS3.1 (NB4) on AT&T Go-Service on my Note 3.
What I'm asking is simple, or maybe it isn't -
I would like to know where I could find info on a REAL wifi calling service. Not these 3rd party apps that give you a new free #, etc. I'd like something that integrates into the phone, like TM Wifi calling does. After searching this topic on XDA, I found a few threads on SIP VoIP. I'd even be willing to give that a shot. If I have to invest a few dollars, that is also ok. Has anyone else successfully done this? Any better idea's or suggestions? I'm tired of not being able to make calls from my cell phone at home. I have looked into repeaters, extenders, etc, but that is for another thread, I suppose.
I know that the native wifi calling on my Note 3 will not work with AT&T, but there must be something that can work....
Thanks for any info or help anyone can provide.
Real WiFi calling has to be supported on the back end by the carrier.
You are going to be limited to a 3rd party solution.
That's what I use. I have to use magic jack.
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Pajar0913 said:
That's what I use. I have to use magic jack.
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I also started using magicjack on my phone. After trying out several voip SIP services with the native android app, I realized that it would never have the sound quality I needed.
This is all null and void now though. I retired my N900T and bought the Verizon Note 3 and never drop signal or lose LTE, even in my basement.
100% not possible. It relies on servers at T-Mobile's end. Plus the settings in the Wifi Calling app are set to T-Mobile's servers on top of that.
It's my understanding that these features (advanced calling, like WiFi calling and VoLTE) Doo not work on unbranded devices like Pixel and others. This was the case with my unbranded SM935F or Galaxy S7 Edge until we got some files, an appropriate CSC, and also had AT&T switch our account to an IMEI of an AT&T branded device that had working WiFi Calling (others have apparently just called AT&T and had them provision WiFi Calling)
Note: for me, I have a business account so I could just go into my business portal and put in an IMEI that I got from an S7 Edge model in an AT&T store
I am attaching the files that we needed to add to our system to get WiFi calling to work on AT&T. I think I remember all I had to do was to add them and make sure permissions were correct
Here is an IMEI that I saw on another post that may work ..... But I do know that the AT&T system needs to recognize your phone IMEI as an att branded device that has working WiFi calling. So if you aren't business customers it will require a call to customer support.
Possible working IMEI:
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Any Pixel AT&T users that could try this and report back would be greatly appreciated!
Btw, I'm not completely sure which files are needed in the Pixel as compared to the S7 Edge .... I would have a backup available
Here's link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4qgtyu0rDEbU3dGNnhLZ0FXTWM/view?usp=drivesdk
File too late to upload here
You don't need any of that for WiFi calling or VoLTE. That all works fine on custom roms
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You don't need any of that for WiFi calling or VoLTE. That all works fine on custom roms
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I obviously could be wrong ...... But I'm 99% sure that what you are saying is not true for AT&T and maybe even other USA carriers!
I KNOW that I'm right for S7 phones and ROMs .... And the problem is so pervasive that they have even been able to get unbranded S8's to obtain WiFi Calling on AT&T or other USA carriers (even though WiFi calling works great on branded S8 phones)
AT&T users a different mechanism to provision WiFi calling than other carriers
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I obviously could be wrong ...... But I'm 99% sure that what you are saying is not true for AT&T and maybe even other USA carriers!
I KNOW that I'm right for S7 phones and ROMs .... And the problem is so pervasive that they have even been able to get unbranded S8's to obtain WiFi Calling on AT&T or other USA carriers (even though WiFi calling works great on branded S8 phones)
AT&T users a different mechanism to provision WiFi calling than other carriers
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You are correct that AT&T does not allow unbranded phones to use those features. It's all BS too. I have great LTE coverage but many times I will go to make a call and have crap service because they have canabalized a lot of the hsdpa towers for LTE. Then the switch back to LTE can take forever. And I don't care what they or anyone says AT&T's hspa+ is no where near as fast
None of this works, as AT&T blocks access to VoLTE on Pixel phones. Denies me the use of Numbersync for my tablet and android wear 2.0 watches. AT&T service techs keep promising to fix it and try to force it to work, but still blocked. It is simply a situation for Google to get the Pixel certified for the AT&T network, which is problematic, as AT&T uses a non-standard protocol for HD Voice that is unique to their network. So, as best I can tell, AT&T has to release the source code, for a price, I presume, to Google to add to the phones and then pay for the certification process with the FCC. Seems a stand-off as long as Google has an "exclusive" arrangement with Verizon. So for me, I'm pissed not to have numbersync for my devices, but unwilling to give up all the advantages of the Pixel phone.
That's why I switched to T-Mobile.
So there is no way to get VoLTE on the Pixel XL with AT&T then?
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So there is no way to get VoLTE on the Pixel XL with AT&T then?
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If AT&T carries the upcoming Pixel 2, is it possible Numbersync would start working on Pixel 1 devices?
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If AT&T carries the upcoming Pixel 2, is it possible Numbersync would start working on Pixel 1 devices?
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I doubt it. They only support advanced features on devices sold by them so it's not as if older Pixels will suddenly be grandfathered in just because they start carrying newer ones.
This annoys me to no end... If I buy a phone from att, do they have to give me an unlock code when the phone is paid off? I really need WiFi calling for a trip I make multiple times a year
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This annoys me to no end... If I buy a phone from att, do they have to give me an unlock code when the phone is paid off? I really need WiFi calling for a trip I make multiple times a year
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I was able to get the code the same day or next for the att Note 8 that was bought from Samsung. The device is paid off.
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I doubt it. They only support advanced features on devices sold by them so it's not as if older Pixels will suddenly be grandfathered in just because they start carrying newer ones.
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Yeah according to a rep I spoke with, the pixel 2 will support Numbersync even though att isn't selling them. There are, however, no plans to change the restriction on the original pixels.
I'm in the same boat but I'm genuinely curious - if I don't need wifi calling - is it really a big deal not having VoLTE? I'm taking in terms of better signal or faster LTE internet speed. Or does VoLTE is just having clearer phone calls? I guess what I'm asking is what other benefits are we losing (on a technical standpoint)
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I'm in the same boat but I'm genuinely curious - if I don't need wifi calling - is it really a big deal not having VoLTE? I'm taking in terms of better signal or faster LTE internet speed. Or does VoLTE is just having clearer phone calls? I guess what I'm asking is what other benefits are we losing (on a technical standpoint)
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Late response but as far as AT&T goes besides VoLTE what I experienced on my Pixel XL was random issues with group text (MMS) reception from certain individuals from other carriers.
In particular it seemed as though if senders of MMS texts to a group chat that I was participating in sent a text from a carrier like T-Mobile and they were using Samsung devices with VoLTE and enhanced LTE stuff enabled on their end I'd not receive the text. I would instead receive texts from others in the conversation. I could freely text any of the same individuals in a separate standard SMS conversation just fine, and they could send me an MMS text like a photo, but as soon as we were in group MMS I'd lose the ability to receive their texts and no amount of APN changes or combinations of texting apps would fix it.
I can't tell you how many times over the course of the first 5 months of owning my Pixel XL with an AT&T SIM in it I missed out on half the conversation in group MMS. Doing nothing to my phone other than porting number to T-Mobile and putting in my new T-Mobile SIM all of my group MMS issues went away (replaced with ****ty signal LOL but that's a different story). I'm now on Verizon with my XL and am a happy camper, albeit poorer having wasted money jumping around.
I noticed that when I make a call, the phone drops from LTE to HSPA or whatever their 3G band is called. I have an LTE SIM in there that had HD calling working on my Essential, Pixel2 XL, iPhone 8+, OP3, etc...
I was getting HD calling on all of those devices, and I did call AT&T support and had them add my IMEI to the line, so it should be working. Is there something that I have to do to enable it on the phone?
My concern is that if I am tethering while on a conf call, I won't get LTE and that's a problem.
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U had it on ur op3, I thought att did not allow volte on non att phones, I was never able to get it on my op3
I thought that I did, and I did on my Essential. Damn it, this sucks... Might have to go back to the Essential. Not having voice and data at the same time in 2018 blows... I am within the return window, although because of the credit card breach, the card they would need to refund to, has been canceled... What a cluster...
Yeah, ran through all sorts of hoops with several customer service reps. They say that VoLTE is enabled and provisioned properly to this SIM and IMEI, but I can't get it to work and it doesn't even show up as an option to enable it in any of the phone's menus... So either AT&T won't allow this BYOD device to have simlutanous voice and data on LTE, or maybe something in the beta isn't giving me the option.
Is anyone running the stock non beta OOS and getting VoLTE to work on AT&T?
I also gave them an IMEI from one of my other phones, an AT&T branded Note 5 that I own, and told them to put that one in and see if it worked, because that would tell me whether it is the phone itself not able to do it, or a provisioning thing on AT&T's end... That didn't work either...
I then went back to my Essential and had them enter that IMEI and it didn't work either...
I guess if I want wifi calling and voice and data at the same time, I have to pay a ton of money for an AT&T phone... Kinda bummed...
I talked to their support and put the SIM back in my Essential, and it fired right up and has VoLTE and doesn't drop to H+ when I make a call. Same SIM, I didn't even call to give them the IMEI. So something isn't supported on the OP5T.
Which sucks, because between the two phones, I really prefer the 5T. Oh well, I guess it wasn't meant to be... That's the downside of buying unlocked phones, you may miss out on some of the key features that you want on the carrier side...
Which ROM are you on?
Did you turn on VoLTE in settings if you are in stock OOS? If not you can try a custom ROM like Liquid Remix that have VoLTE working
Stock rom. If I have to install a custom rom to get the phone to work, not worth it. I will just return it and get my money back
AT&T only enables VoLTE and LTE+ on provisioned devices and supported, usually BYOD especially for a non-listed device does NOT apply. I was on AT&T when I got my 5T, tried my sim from iPhone 6S and a brand new sim I got at the store that I was assured would have VoLTE capability, but nothing. Not even wifi calling would work on my 5T. No options in Settings either to toggle it. They want you to buy the device from them is why they do this on unlocked phones.
I switched to T-Mobile and I had VoLTE, LTE+, and VoWiFi all on first boot with T-Mobile sim, with all of them listed in Settings on the same device with same software version as I was when on AT&T's network.
It's simply just a case of AT&T not supporting the device. Typically only carrier-sold phones for AT&T will have those capabilities, if you look it up you'll see many people say the same. Personally I'm glad I switched to T-Mobile because they don't lock down all of those features to try to get me to buy a phone from the carrier like AT&T did/does. I'd never go back to them at this point. Sorry but if staying on AT&T is the only option for you I'd look into how you could go about returning the phone to OnePlus and getting something AT&T-approved.
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Stock rom. If I have to install a custom rom to get the phone to work, not worth it. I will just return it and get my money back
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AT&T only enables VoLTE and LTE+ on provisioned devices and supported, usually BYOD especially for a non-listed device does NOT apply. I was on AT&T when I got my 5T, tried my sim from iPhone 6S and a brand new sim I got at the store that I was assured would have VoLTE capability, but nothing. Not even wifi calling would work on my 5T. No options in Settings either to toggle it. They want you to buy the device from them is why they do this on unlocked phones.
I switched to T-Mobile and I had VoLTE, LTE+, and VoWiFi all on first boot with T-Mobile sim, with all of them listed in Settings on the same device with same software version as I was when on AT&T's network.
It's simply just a case of AT&T not supporting the device. Typically only carrier-sold phones for AT&T will have those capabilities, if you look it up you'll see many people say the same. Personally I'm glad I switched to T-Mobile because they don't lock down all of those features to try to get me to buy a phone from the carrier like AT&T did/does. I'd never go back to them at this point. Sorry but if staying on AT&T is the only option for you I'd look into how you could go about returning the phone to OnePlus and getting something AT&T-approved.
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I have an ATT sim from my company originally meant for an iPhone. VoLTE did not work on a google pixel cause the plan was not compatible. And since it is not my plan I can't make changes. I ordered the Oneplus to see if I could get it to work. And on a Stock ROM it will not work without Root and the Magisk Module to enable VoLTE. It will work on Custom ROMS such as Omni and Phoenix, both of with work for me with no issues.
In the end I returned the OP5T for a refund, and am back to using my Essential. While that is a non-AT&T phone that I bought right from Essential, it does support VoLTE out of the box, no issues. I don't get Wifi Calling, but I get HD Calling, works with my tethering plan, etc... Not sure why the Essential works but the OP5T doesn't, and it sucks because I liked the OP5T more... but it is what it is...
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i got it working on the 5T
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It works on ATT, but the issue is that it doesn't do HD Calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
Make a phone call and while you are on the phone, you lose LTE and it drops to HSPA(3G)...
It's not a phone limitation, it's that AT&T won't allow it to have those features on their network. That is the ONLY reason I sent the phone back. Hopefully they address it with the OP6 and get in "approved" for AT&T and I can sell my iPhone 8+ and come back to Android...
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It works on ATT, but the issue is that it doesn't do HD Calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
Make a phone call and while you are on the phone, you lose LTE and it drops to HSPA(3G)...
It's not a phone limitation, it's that AT&T won't allow it to have those features on their network. That is the ONLY reason I sent the phone back. Hopefully they address it with the OP6 and get in "approved" for AT&T and I can sell my iPhone 8+ and come back to Android...
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Sorry, but this will never happen in the foreseeable future.
AT&T purposely does this to all BYOD, so the OP6 is not going to change anything. They only offer these options for phones you purchase directly through them online or in an AT&T store.
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Sorry, but this will never happen in the foreseeable future.
AT&T purposely does this to all BYOD, so the OP6 is not going to change anything. They only offer these options for phones you purchase directly through them online or in an AT&T store.
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Not entirely true. The Pixels you buy straight from Google, work. The Essential that I had, worked fine. There are phones that work just fine that you don't have to purchase through AT&T.
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Not entirely true. The Pixels you buy straight from Google, work. The Essential that I had, worked fine. There are phones that work just fine that you don't have to purchase through AT&T.
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No I got it working, i was trying to show a screenshot
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No I got it working, i was trying to show a screenshot
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How did you get it working? I didn't want to root it and install a custom ROM, which I believe was the only way to get it working.
I tried using an IMEI from one of my other phones that I know worked, etc... Nothing worked.
You guys know that even if you show the switches and turn them on, that the LTE data doesn't work right? It's just showing the options and you can turn them on. I even have my OP5t added to my account as an ATT LG G6 and it doesn't work. Unless there is some agreement, like with the Essential Phone or Google's only official phone, you're out of luck.
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You guys know that even if you show the switches and turn them on, that the LTE data doesn't work right? It's just showing the options and you can turn them on. I even have my OP5t added to my account as an ATT LG G6 and it doesn't work. Unless there is some agreement, like with the Essential Phone or Google's only official phone, you're out of luck.
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Exactly, that's what I was getting at. I talked to ATT several times, tried different IMEI's and nothing worked. Regardless of what the options in the menu claim, it doesn't work. If you are just using your phone it will say LTE. But when you make a call, as soon as it connects, it switches to 3G or HSPA+... It won't do phone calls and LTE data at the same time.
If it did, I would have kept the phone. But that's a pretty big feature to have to live without for me. That and HD calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
I wish that OnePlus would do whatever they need to do to get the phone "certified" for ATT, but I don't see that happening...
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Exactly, that's what I was getting at. I talked to ATT several times, tried different IMEI's and nothing worked. Regardless of what the options in the menu claim, it doesn't work. If you are just using your phone it will say LTE. But when you make a call, as soon as it connects, it switches to 3G or HSPA+... It won't do phone calls and LTE data at the same time.
If it did, I would have kept the phone. But that's a pretty big feature to have to live without for me. That and HD calling, Wifi Calling, etc...
I wish that OnePlus would do whatever they need to do to get the phone "certified" for ATT, but I don't see that happening...
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Yea, it's a pretty crappy situation. I came from a Moto x Pure to the OP5 and then to the OP5t and it was a big disappointment when I was stuck without LTE on calls. I had the Moto x on Verizon though. I really don't get why they restrict BYOD phones at all considering that if people use MORE data, they are likely to bump up their plans to the next tier. I kinda don't get the rationale. Anyway, it is what it is. I love my OP5t and hope to keep this phone for a while, unlike many past phones. But I live in a city, so rarely have issues here.
Hello everyone.
I'm new here and this is my newest phone purchase after weeks and weeks of research I decided to purchase this phone. However I'm having one big problem. I cannot receive phone calls using the phone. However I can send text messages which is strange and when I try to talk to someone it switches to 2G for no real reason too.
It's fully updated and completely stock in fact just purchased three days ago. I'm wondering what I could do so I can get this thing working again. I have 30 days to return this thing, and I rather not because its a rather good phone and I like it a lot but if I can't get it to receive phone calls then I have to return it.
please help anyone.
Dallas Texas said:
Hello everyone.
I'm new here and this is my newest phone purchase after weeks and weeks of research I decided to purchase this phone. However I'm having one big problem. I cannot receive phone calls using the phone. However I can send text messages which is strange and when I try to talk to someone it switches to 2G for no real reason too.
It's fully updated and completely stock in fact just purchased three days ago. I'm wondering what I could do so I can get this thing working again. I have 30 days to return this thing, and I rather not because its a rather good phone and I like it a lot but if I can't get it to receive phone calls then I have to return it.
please help anyone.
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Try installing the t-mobile visual voicemail app, there maybe settings in there you can adjust, only if your U.S though.
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Try installing the t-mobile visual voicemail app, there maybe settings in there you can adjust, only if your U.S though.
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I had the same problem check the apn settings my was the stock tmo setting with the phone and a . Was in the wrong spot
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Try installing the t-mobile visual voicemail app, there maybe settings in there you can adjust, only if your U.S though.
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I had the same problem check the apn settings my was the stock tmo setting with the phone and a . Was in the wrong spot
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Alright I'll try and install the T-mobile visual voicemail app and see what is good
APN settings yes? I have tried that and tried inputting a manual one and even the ones on there which has three types of T-mobile settings
I'm not an expert on this but I have been looking for info on this for a while before I buy an A2 Lite to use on T-Mobile and I believe this post by a T-Mobile MVNO customer service rep may answer your question
The TLDR is that T-Mobile strictly uses band 12 for all VoLTE calls and if the phone doesn't support band 12/VoLTE T-Mobile forces it to use 2G for calls and texts. In some areas where the spectrum has been refarmed and there are a lot of 2G users your incoming call will time out before the tower finishes searching for you on VoLTE and ultimately tries to connect you to 2G, resulting in your phone not actually ringing.
This would also explain why there are no issues with texts, since they don't time out like an incoming call. Apparently there is no solution to this if you live in certain areas and use T-Mobile, and it will continue to get worse as spectrum is refarmed.
Sorry for the delay -- I'm technically off today. I saw you question and just had to pop in and answer, because I have a complete answer for you. Your issue is band compatibility, specifically the lack of Band 12. Let me explain:
For years and years, T-Mobile sent all their calls over the legacy 2G network on 1900MHz. Every call and text message went over this frequency, and all T-Mobile phones still support it for backwards compatibility.
Then, T-Mobile launched Voice over LTE, or VoLTE. But, they made the stipulation that VoLTE would only ever work on LTE Band 12. That means that any phone that didn't specifically have Band 12 LTE would still have to use the 2G 1900MHz frequency to send all calls and text messages. Any phone that did support Band 12 could use VoLTE and would send all their calls and texts through that VoLTE Band 12 connection.
That's not really a problem for most people, as T-Mobile's 2G network is still live in all their markets. These phones will connect to the LTE network for all data, but all their calls and texts go over that 2G connection.
Enter the problem: Spectrum crunch. Spectrum in the US is a limited resource. That's why the auctions always for it always go for millions of dollars for tiny portions. T-Mobile (and by extension, all its MVNOs, as we have no power over how they build their network) wants to make LTE the new standard, and push into 5G. In order to do that, they need to launch LTE in more places, and feed more devices than ever. They only have so much spectrum, so they reallocate what they already have to the new technology.
This is already happening with 3G. 2G is, again, just being kept around for backwards compatibility. They take the sectors that broadcast 3G (and 2G) and make them smaller and smaller, so the rest of the room can be used for LTE to service more devices faster. It makes business sense.
The process is called "re-farming" spectrum, and a quick Google search quickly becomes a rabbit hole as you find other people in your circumstance. They put the disused services on tiny little slivers of spectrum, some as small as 5MHz, which without getting too technical, is tiny.
If you happen to be unlucky enough live in an area where they're re-farming 2G spectrum to LTE, and your phone doesn't support VoLTE on Band 12, you're effectively fighting all the other T-Mobile (really any carrier, but for arguments' sake) customers whose devices also need to connect to that 2G network
Add enough people, and you get the problem you're having. A call comes into the network, and the towers go to work trying to find you. First, they try VoLTE, and don't find you there. Then they try the old 2G network, but there's like 200 other people in your area that are connected to that one tower, so it has to fight through them all to find your SIM card number and connect the call and-- right before it connects, the call times out of rings and your caller is sent to Voicemail.
You never get a missed call alert, your caller isn't alerted that your phone didn't ring, and because your phone didn't get a confirmation, you probably won't get a voicemail notification.
This doesn't affect the phone's ability to connect to the 3G network or 4G LTE Bands 2 and 4, which lots of phones support. But calls and texts don't travel over those networks. You'll still have an active, working data connection if this is what's happening to you, which is why it's hard to diagnose not just for Ting reps, but our customers and other MVNOs, as well as T-Mobile itself.
This problem isn't going to go away, and it's only going to get worse as re-farming 2G goes nationwide. It's not Ting-specific. Any T-Mobile device will have this problem if there are enough 2G-talk-and-text users in your area.
The phone in question, the Blu Vivo 5, supports Band 2 and Band 4 for LTE, but doesn't support Band 12, and thus doesn't support VoLTE. This is exactly what's happening to you.
This is exactly how it happened to my S/O. She had a Motorola Droid Mini on Ting GSM that worked great for years, on two distinct T-Mobile-powered networks. Then, T-Mobile re-farmed enough 2G in our area that she started missing calls, texts wouldn't arrive and she wouldn't get voicemails. The key identifier that this was her problem was that placing a call would take something like 10-15 seconds to connect. Typically, this should be instant.
There was nothing wrong with the phone at all -- it was working as designed. The second I got her into a Band 12 VoLTE phone, the problems disappeared completely. Nothing else changed.
The only solution is a new (or new-to-you) phone that supports Band 12 and VoLTE. No number of hard resets, network resets or new SIM cards will fix this problem. You'll have this problem on any network that uses T-Mobile as their backbone, as long as the phone you're using doesn't support Band 12 LTE and VoLTE.
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I don't have a high enough post count to post a link but it was posted on r/Ting if you search that subreddit for the thread titled "Over 4 years and now this" you should find it. The info was written by u/literallyunlimited.
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I'm not an expert on this but I have been looking for info on this for a while before I buy an A2 Lite to use on T-Mobile and I believe this post by a T-Mobile MVNO customer service rep may answer your question
The TLDR is that T-Mobile strictly uses band 12 for all VoLTE calls and if the phone doesn't support band 12/VoLTE T-Mobile forces it to use 2G for calls and texts. In some areas where the spectrum has been refarmed and there are a lot of 2G users your incoming call will time out before the tower finishes searching for you on VoLTE and ultimately tries to connect you to 2G, resulting in your phone not actually ringing.
This would also explain why there are no issues with texts, since they don't time out like an incoming call. Apparently there is no solution to this if you live in certain areas and use T-Mobile, and it will continue to get worse as spectrum is refarmed.
I don't have a high enough post count to post a link but it was posted on r/Ting if you search that subreddit for the thread titled "Over 4 years and now this" you should find it. The info was written by u/literallyunlimited.
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Thanks fam, I'll return it and get another phone I appreciate the information brother.
It's HD1907 T-MOBILE. What I need is HD1905. He sent me the wrong one.
I only realized a few hours ago I had no mobile data. I had got calls and texts to work this morning.
After spending 45 minutes on the phone with AT&T they concluded my phone is not recognized as LTE compatible. WTF? It's not even connecting to 3g.lb
I've been buying unlocked phones for years. My last phone was OP5T. I've never experienced anything like this.
I'll probably take it to the corporate store tomorrow but doubt it'll help. Has anyone had problems with AT&T and this phone?
I'm just putting it out there, hoping somebody has an idea...
AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
Droid_Nut said:
AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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I'll bet if you look in the settings your model is HD1905 or the global model, not sure the number.
Actually if you could take a look for me and post back here that'd be good. It most likely won't make a difference but I'm curious.
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I'll bet if you look in the settings your model is HD1905 or the global model, not sure the number.
Actually if you could take a look for me and post back here that'd be good. It most likely won't make a difference but I'm curious.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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You mean Verizon when you say VZW?
I'm just confused as to how he would be able to add it to the list of approved devices.
Anyway it's BS. If the carrier supports the phone, and the phone is capable of VOLT!/WIFI CALLING, it should work.
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You mean Verizon when you say VZW?
I'm just confused as to how he would be able to add it to the list of approved devices.
Anyway it's BS. If the carrier supports the phone, and the phone is capable of VOLT!/WIFI CALLING, it should work.
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Yes Verizon. I have heard hear many times on this site, that phones are blocked from wifi calling by the IMEI, I or they could be wrong.
Vowifi works on the unlocked Pixel, but are they going to butt heads with Google? Volte works fine, I got a network extender, and I can use google voice to make calls over wifi if I really need to.
If vowifi is a must, get an approved phone, that is all you can do.
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AT&T worked for me, excellent data speeds, and great signal. But at times it would go from 4 bars to absolutely no signal or data, and lots of dropped calls. After that I went to Verizon, not as good of signal, slower data, but no dropped phone calls or mysterious total loss of signal in an area where it should have been 4 bars.
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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Maybe you can answer this for me. Just because a T-MOBILE locked phone is able to make calls and texts on AT&T, does that automatically mean it should be able to connect to mobile data?
I was able to get it to make calls after a refresh signal was sent out, but it could not connect to mobile data . My sim is fine. I even popped it my son's Pixel 3a and LTE started immediately.
The seller is saying the fact that it was able to make calls means it is able to connect to mobile data. And I should take it to AT&T before returning it. I don't think he's scamming. He says he has the same phone on AT&T. And he's sold Hundreds of them. That kinda checks out based on reviews and some of those people do report it works with AT&T.
These phones are hd1907 T-Mobile but supposedly OnePlus unlocks them before sending them out to some sellers. I sort of believe the guy but is it true? If it were locked to T-Mobile could I get it to make phone calls?
Obviously I'm not talking about a hack. Because I thought locked was locked. Is it possible for a locked T-Mobile phone to make calls on the AT&T network?
Also I got AT&T to make it work but once I removed the sim/reinsert it, the thing displays weird behavior. Wifi goes in and out. It forgets the apn settings that were set prior.
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I worked at AT&T until a few months ago. I can tell you confidently that their tech support is a bunch of dummies. Employees have their own tech support line to call and that one is just as bad. They would routinely tell customers they needed to go to a store to have something done. Then they'd get to the store to find out we literally cannot do that at the store. Stuff like that was super common. One of them even bet me $1,000 that iPhones DON'T reboot when they update, which we all know is all the way wrong.
I halfway think support tells people that stuff on purpose to try to get them to buy something from AT&T. God, I could rant about that place for hours lol
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I agree, ATT was the most horrible experience I ever had. Tracfone may have even had a better customer support.
Verizon CDMA service may be antiquated, but their customer service and tech support is 2nd to none.
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Maybe you can answer this for me. Just because a T-MOBILE locked phone is able to make calls and texts on AT&T, does that automatically mean it should be able to connect to mobile data?
I was able to get it to make calls after a refresh signal was sent out, but it could not connect to mobile data . My sim is fine. I even popped it my son's Pixel 3a and LTE started immediately.
The seller is saying the fact that it was able to make calls means it is able to connect to mobile data. And I should take it to AT&T before returning it. I don't think he's scamming. He says he has the same phone on AT&T. And he's sold Hundreds of them. That kinda checks out based on reviews and some of those people do report it works with AT&T.
These phones are hd1907 T-Mobile but supposedly OnePlus unlocks them before sending them out to some sellers. I sort of believe the guy but is it true? If it were locked to T-Mobile could I get it to make phone calls?
Obviously I'm not talking about a hack. Because I thought locked was locked. Is it possible for a locked T-Mobile phone to make calls on the AT&T network?
Also I got AT&T to make it work but once I removed the sim/reinsert it, the thing displays weird behavior. Wifi goes in and out. It forgets the apn settings that were set prior.
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It should have no trouble using data BUT you'll have to change the phone's APN settings to match your carrier before you can. You can google it and find them. It's not hard at all to change. Somewhere under the "network" settings.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I've understood it the phone will keep trying to access the previous carrier's data network, which is why you didn't have data. But as said above the APN settings should fix that.
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It should have no trouble using data BUT you'll have to change the phone's APN settings to match your carrier before you can. You can google it and find them. It's not hard at all to change. Somewhere under the "network" settings.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I've understood it the phone will keep trying to access the previous carrier's data network, which is why you didn't have data. But as said above the APN settings should fix that.
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If I told you the whole story, which started on Friday morning and in the end involved 7 AT&T employees, 6 on the phone and 1 in the store, it'd probably be removed because it's spam. Too long of a story.
But in the end it didn't get to connect to mobile data..at least not consistently. I took it to the store. The guy removed the Sim reset it, turned it off and boom! - LTE, calls and texts. His theory was it takes a little while for it to unlock and get set so when I tried it the other night it wasn't working.
I was happy because it literally took 5 minutes. I ran some errands and was out for like another 2 hours. Everything was working. Some point between the store and my driveway, the signal was gone. I never got it back. Of course I tried reset, remove Sim, reboot, change apn settings.
I called AT&T... the first woman didn't even know what CDMA and GSM was. I politely got her to transfer me to the guy who 'knows his stuff'. He got it to make calls again, but in the end concluded this device can't work on this network. I didn't wanna argue anymore. He had a BS answer for everything including 'If it doesn't work, why DID it work just a half hour ago?'
He said I could try getting a new sim. They have no idea. My son's sim won't work on this phone but pop it in my old phone and it works. And my sim works in his phone. It's not the sim. I know it.
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It's HD1907 T-MOBILE. What I need is HD1905. He sent me the wrong one.
I only realized a few hours ago I had no mobile data. I had got calls and texts to work this morning.
After spending 45 minutes on the phone with AT&T they concluded my phone is not recognized as LTE compatible. WTF? It's not even connecting to 3g.lb
I've been buying unlocked phones for years. My last phone was OP5T. I've never experienced anything like this.
I'll probably take it to the corporate store tomorrow but doubt it'll help. Has anyone had problems with AT&T and this phone?
I'm just putting it out there, hoping somebody has an idea...
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That's strange as they both litterly have the same bands besides 71 that 1907 has
This is att bands and oneplus bands
If u haven't tryed I would recommend using the failed to go to your settings and toggle around there all bit make sure it's set for north america
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That's strange as they both litterly have the same bands besides 71 that 1907 has
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I took it back to AT&T yesterday. There was someone in front of me so I sat down, removed the sim from my working phone, popped it in the op7t... instant lte, calls & texts. The same thing happened the day before I went to at&t. It worked perfectly well there in the store and even 2 towns away but not m my neighborhood which DOES connect to LTE, has for years on every phone we've had.
The tech (if you can really call him that) updated the sim. That got it done. I've had a working phone for 24 hours. BUT no LTE. It only connects to H+.
I haven't had time to call or go back to the store, but I'm hoping it's an easy fix. This has been the weirdest week I've ever had dealing with a phone. I've learned that AT&T doesn't know what they're doing. I still can't believe I needed to explain what GSM and CDMA was to one of the people on the call.
I'm gonna try a few things tonight after work.
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I took it back to AT&T yesterday. There was someone in front of me so I sat down, removed the sim from my working phone, popped it in the op7t... instant lte, calls & texts. The same thing happened the day before I went to at&t. It worked perfectly well there in the store and even 2 towns away but not m my neighborhood which DOES connect to LTE, has for years on every phone we've had.
The tech (if you can really call him that) updated the sim. That got it done. I've had a working phone for 24 hours. BUT no LTE. It only connects to H+.
I haven't had time to call or go back to the store, but I'm hoping it's an easy fix. This has been the weirdest week I've ever had dealing with a phone. I've learned that AT&T doesn't know what they're doing. I still can't believe I needed to explain what GSM and CDMA was to one of the people on the call.
I'm gonna try a few things tonight after work.
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That is strange and pethetic the att peaple.dont know what they are doing.if I have time later I'll try to research she if anything comes out
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This is att bands and oneplus bands
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Thanks for sharing, but I've never really needed to mess around with the settings as far as mobile data goes. It either works out of the box, or at most I'll need to put the apn in manually on some custom roms, but even that's rare.
How does the info you provided apply to my problem. I know the phone can connect to lte. It was connecting briefly on Monday afternoon and while I was at At&T yesterday, it connected before they updated the sim.
Is there something I can do with this? It's a sincere question. I'm not sure if I can apply it somehow. Thanks
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Thanks for sharing, but I've never really needed to mess around with the settings as far as mobile data goes. It either works out of the box, or at most I'll need to put the apn in manually on some custom roms, but even that's rare.
How does the info you provided apply to my problem. I know the phone can connect to lte. It was connecting briefly on Monday afternoon and while I was at At&T yesterday, it connected before they updated the sim.
Is there something I can do with this? It's a sincere question. I'm not sure if I can apply it somehow. Thanks
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I think his point was to show that the OP7T does in fact work on all AT&T bands. Normally you don't need to do anything with this if the SIM is provisioned correctly.
What are the chances that you are on the edge of the local AT&T LTE signal so it drops to H+ because that's a stronger connection? At the AT&T store the LTE signal is stronger so the phone is favoring that one. Some phones are more sensitive to signals than others (or more aggressive at switching to a stronger band).
Try using a program like "LTE Discovery" and see what bands you actually are connecting to. It can also let you know what is going on in your area with tower location.
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I think his point was to show that the OP7T does in fact work on all AT&T bands. Normally you don't need to do anything with this if the SIM is provisioned correctly.
What are the chances that you are on the edge of the local AT&T LTE signal so it drops to H+ because that's a stronger connection? At the AT&T store the LTE signal is stronger so the phone is favoring that one. Some phones are more sensitive to signals than others (or more aggressive at switching to a stronger band).
Try using a program like "LTE Discovery" and see what bands you actually are connecting to. It can also let you know what is going on in your area with tower location.
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I'll try that. Thanks.
That's what I said but the guy at the store said it's really not a stronger signal at the store. Plus I know I can get LTE at my house and in the store because all our other phones connect, even this one, briefly at the at&t store.
The seller have me a code to input into the dialer but I'm waiting for tomorrow to put it in. It's my day off. If something goes wrong it won't be a huge deal. I will look into what you sent at some point though.
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Yes I have the HD1905, but you can totally forget about vowifi with any provider except for T-Mobile. I tried them all, I even had a tech from VZW work diligently to try and get vowifi working. I told him to try and add my IMEI to the approved list, and that did not work either. As far as AT&T, they did not give me the time of day, they just told me I needed and AT&T device, period.
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Your posts are bouncing between VoLTE & VoWiFi.
LTE bands and VoLTE work fine on Verizon's network.
Verizon allows VoWiFi on the OP 8's that they sell. They will not activate VoWiFi on the OP 7 series, the claim is that the phone did not go through their security testing. IIRC VZW doesn't allow VoWiFi on any outside phone.