Kernel Needed - Samsung Galaxy A50 Questions & Answers

As the kernel source is out , can any of you please make a custom kernel for this device that will improve device performance and fake knox status to use secure folder, s health and other items ?

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immortalized2018 said:
As the kernel source is out , can any of you please make a custom kernel for this device that will improve device performance and fake knox status to use secure folder, s health and other items ?
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You Picked The Wrong Device To Own...
If it's Development you want.. you need to sell the 50 and consider a 9T / K20.. if you want to go new and stay in this price bracket.
There is already about 10 ROM's, A Few T.W.R.P.'s and a Experimental Kernel..
And that device is around a Month Old in consumers hands... Development is only going to "Grow" for that device.. almost to OnePlus levels..
The A50 is a WONDERFUL device... when kept stock.. But,
After 6 Months... ( and a few months since Kernel Source was released ) there is next to ZERO Interest in this device from a Developmental standpoint.
The Redmi's (Xiaomi's) and Moto's are the way to go if you want the "Instant Tinkering" effect.. at least in this price bracket.
OnePlus.... ANY OnePlus... old or new will give you the "Full Monty" when it comes to Developmental Satisfaction. :angel:

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Custom Rom Xiaomi Redmi 1s?

exist or are planned, custom rom for this smartphone? miui is great but stock Android is very very optimized
Cyanogen?
OmniRom?
thx
So i'm not the only one who are searching a MIUI alternative.
I've made a search on the web but nothing for the moment.
Same here, found, that MIUI isn't my cup of coffee...
So we will see...
Sent from my HM 1SW using XDA Free mobile app
The problem is the MIUI community.
They're sweet but... we can't talk about anything else except MIUI so it will be good if we can regroup a few users here to maybe interest some devs.
PS : I'm sorry for my poor english.
Also interested in this, I have got no developing experience, but I am willing to beta test, who knows maybe one day ill teach myself and cook a rom for it.
BennyBron said:
Also interested in this, I have got no developing experience, but I am willing to beta test, who knows maybe one day ill teach myself and cook a rom for it.
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Same. But if I can do anything to help I'll do my best.
As far as I have been able to find out, no sources are out = no AOSP roms for us, unless we write everything from scratch
MIUI Developers never release sources code = No custom rom, that's reason why we don't have MIUI custom on XDA.
-XDA has most skilled developers.
-If you take closer look MIUI it combines all Samsung IOS HTC and some custom Mods from XDA developers into one without permissions. It's Chinese Way, i have no comment on this.
Really exist one Cyanogenmod on Xiaomi Mi2/Mi2S... http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=16834&highlight=cyanogenmod
But in Redmi 1S right now nothing of nothing ...
facepalm for me... Miui sucks everywhere....
We just need to wait a bit...
And I guess this Cyanogen can't be used on 1S because of Qualcomm processor...
Can u guys help?
IMO, Xiaomi has pretty good hardware packed inside, but this same happened when i thought of buying Mi 3.
But i have 1 question though. I am planning to by REDMI 1S for my dad, can u help me to choose or reject this phone?
PS - He's a total novice when it comes to smartphones. request you to give your opinion accordingly.
Hi,
The MIUI interface is really easy to use.
The only negative point is the 4G unsupported in the Redmi 1S.
So I guess you can buy it, it's a really good product for the price.
Someone is working on CM11 for our Redmi 1s!!!
Check HERE
I hope it will be out soon :cyclops:
Glops4 said:
Someone is working on CM11 for our Redmi 1s!!!
Check HERE
I hope it will be out soon :cyclops:
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The link seems to redirect to something else now. Shucks man.
Hi guys, i wanna ask. I'm planning to buy this phone in near months when it launches in my country. However, despite all the great stuff found on this phone - like its processor, GPU, sharp display, amazing cameras, etc - there are many complaints about its battery life and gaming performance - with games like Asphalt 8 running laggy in full graphics. I know that the custom ROM of stock Android for this phone hasn't come out yet until new given that it's a new phone, but i wanna know is there any way to improve its battery life and gaming performance.
I heard that MIUI of this phone consumes a lot of RAM and only leaves around 200MB of RAM. Does this phone allow users to deactivate the pre-loaded apps in order to free some RAM, thus making its battery last longer and performance much faster especially for gaming?
Please, answer my question guys. I'm in desperate for answers here because Xiaomi is about to launch its phones in my country soon and i don't want to be left behind in purchasing this phone given Xiaomi's flash sales.
Everyone?
creamtown said:
Everyone?
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dont know about games
what i can tell is that i have the phone for 2 months now,
and i havent got any problems with it
great phone for the price but u have to like the miui
Root acces was standard, so it isnt difficult to remove some apps.
On topic:
On cyanogenmod forum there is a request page for the 1S
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/95500-request-cyanogenmod-for-xiaomi-redmi-1s-snapdragon-400/
martijnn2 said:
dont know about games
what i can tell is that i have the phone for 2 months now,
and i havent got any problems with it
great phone for the price but u have to like the miui
Root acces was standard, so it isnt difficult to remove some apps.
On topic:
On cyanogenmod forum there is a request page for the 1S
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/95500-request-cyanogenmod-for-xiaomi-redmi-1s-snapdragon-400/
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Thanks for your reply dude. Hopefully, when this phone receives the MIUI 6, it will improve its performance and battery life. This phone is about to arrive in the next few weeks in my country soon. Hopefully, i manage to buy it because the price of this phone at other retailers is just insane!!
creamtown said:
Thanks for your reply dude. Hopefully, when this phone receives the MIUI 6, it will improve its performance and battery life. This phone is about to arrive in the next few weeks in my country soon. Hopefully, i manage to buy it because the price of this phone at other retailers is just insane!!
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Performance and battery life are in my opinion allready good, remember it's not an high-end phone, a good mid range
martijnn2 said:
Performance and battery life are in my opinion allready good, remember it's not an high-end phone, a good mid range
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Yes, i know that. But i heard that even moto e or moto g can last about 6 hours for intensive gaming without resting the screen. So i think xiaomi should be similar in term of battery life wite moto phones given their similar specs.

New to Honor/Huawei - what's the Dev scene like? Do Huawei bother?

So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
I've been looking in to this too. It seems you can unlock the bootloader on EMUI devices in an official way so that's a good start.
Have you had a look around the other Huawei and Honor forums? There do seem to be ROMs and unofficial Lineage OS builds, but I haven't found much info on sources, etc.
I have actually pre-ordered an Honor 8 Pro, it looks awesome and at £474 I couldn't resist. I think the major manufacturers have lost the plot in terms of flagship pricing.
alsheron said:
So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
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I'm in the same boat. I love the H8Pro but all I see outside of stock based roms, is one unofficial Lineage build for the Honor 8. The camera is currently listed as not working still. It's like that on a lot of phones that aren't too well known. My Le Pro 3 for example didn't have working camera on the marshmallow roms for a while and then when they got it working the 7 roms didn't have it until very recently. So it's a maybe it will at all. The problem is that while a lot of these companies allow bootloader unlocking, no they don't release sources. That's a big problem. That means devs have to build things like camera drivers from scratch, and without them being that popular devs working on it aren't usually too plentiful. Also not too much kernel support for that Kirin chipset either.
Well let me ask you guys. How much custom ROMs do you use these days ? I myself found that after changing to custom ROM I found back to stock ROM. These days stock roms has become so good that they actually brings the true character of a phone
Apparently I'm not the only one facing this decision. I've owned the Moto 2nd gen, G3, and G4 and frankly every time I've moved up a model, I like them a little less. For that reason alone, I'm trying to look past the Moto G5. Now that the Honor 9 is coming out, I'm taking a look at the Honor 8, hoping the cost will come down. I've always carried my phone in my front pocket so the size difference over the G4 I have now has me a little worried, but the weight really doesn't matter. I'm really looking very hard at the Honor 8 Pro though since price wise, it looks pretty close to the best bang for the buck.
ehh ..
alsheron said:
So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
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personally, i am a fan of their emui5, amazing ui tho,
and their harware is solid,
camera is good too,
battery lives are excellent (thanks to emui optimisations)
but my only regret is that i dont have much of a custom roms to play with, given that their kirin chip is not open sourced
offcourse, their is open kirin team unofficially, but they are not working on every device, so only complaint will be kernel sources,
many honor devices has no development at all,
thilak devraj said:
personally, i am a fan of their emui5, amazing ui tho,
and their harware is solid,
camera is good too,
battery lives are excellent (thanks to emui optimisations)
but my only regret is that i dont have much of a custom roms to play with, given that their kirin chip is not open sourced
offcourse, their is open kirin team unofficially, but they are not working on every device, so only complaint will be kernel sources,
many honor devices has no development at all,
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1. kernel source from p10 plus works on duk
2. resurrection remix will follow soon .. it is booting already, but still has some major bugs we have to fix first
EDIT: I just saw you are talking about kirin devices in general, sorry
OldDroid said:
1. kernel source from p10 plus works on duk
2. resurrection remix will follow soon .. it is booting already, but still has some major bugs we have to fix first
EDIT: I just saw you are talking about kirin devices in general, sorry
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don't worry, we are always greatfull for open Kirin and the hard work of devs like you
Source code is just released! Check HERE. Since the phone is new, source is released early. OpenKirin Team can now develop for this device.
adriansticoid said:
Source code is just released! Check HERE. Since the phone is new, source is released early. OpenKirin Team can now develop for this device.
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wooow... source released ?? :cyclops:
thilak devraj said:
wooow... source released ?? :cyclops:
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Yeah. That's what I just said.
adriansticoid said:
Yeah. That's what I just said.
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wasnt expecting huawei to do this
thilak devraj said:
wasnt expecting huawei to do this
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Rox_Honor said it will be released mid-June. A bit delayed but it's good.
adriansticoid said:
Rox_Honor said it will be released mid-June. A bit delayed but it's good.
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finally, i could play with custom roms , hope it woud happen for the 6x too
thilak devraj said:
finally, i could play with custom roms , hope it woud happen for the 6x too
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Yeah. Everybody's hoping for that.
adriansticoid said:
Yeah. Everybody's hoping for that.
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imagin , if huawei bedev friendly, and their phones will be like snapdragons, no one would stop em
thilak devraj said:
imagin , if huawei bedev friendly, and their phones will be like snapdragons, no one would stop em
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They'll see this in the future. Yeah that future again.
adriansticoid said:
They'll see this in the future. Yeah that future again.
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if that happens, huawei's gonna beat sam
thilak devraj said:
if that happens, huawei's gonna beat sam
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Of course. So it's important that they decide for this.

Free Moto Z Play (with conditions, idea at the moment)

Hi there, long time lurker here and Z Play Custom ROM user as well, mainly the AOSP 8.1, 9 and LOS16 (currently on the phone). So I have recently been planning to switch to X4 due to the official LOS16 support and I like the form factor of that phone a bit more (slightly less tall). Recently I have been thinking to maybe contribute to the community by donating my Z Play as developer device so that maybe someone can bring a stable Android 10 ROM. So to start this off, I am willing to donate a Z Play XT1635-02 version to a very dedicated developer, under the condition that it will be used as a developer device only. I am not sure if that will be possible or a smart thing to do, but I guess ideas start like that and maybe the community can chip in, etc. The phone is 10/10 condition with battery still giving me 10hr SOT+ and amazing standby but it's not a G phone so just pure LOS16 flash with Magisk and few modules, one being the ACC module to limit battery charge to 80% and also I think it controls the current if the stock charger is used. The phone looks and feels brand new and is located in Canada.
irekj said:
Hi there, long time lurker here and Z Play Custom ROM user as well, mainly the AOSP 8.1, 9 and LOS16 (currently on the phone). So I have recently been planning to switch to X4 due to the official LOS16 support and I like the form factor of that phone a bit more (slightly less tall). Recently I have been thinking to maybe contribute to the community by donating my Z Play as developer device so that maybe someone can bring a stable Android 10 ROM. So to start this off, I am willing to donate a Z Play XT1635-02 version to a very dedicated developer, under the condition that it will be used as a developer device only. I am not sure if that will be possible or a smart thing to do, but I guess ideas start like that and maybe the community can chip in, etc. The phone is 10/10 condition with battery still giving me 10hr SOT+ and amazing standby but it's not a G phone so just pure LOS16 flash with Magisk and few modules, one being the ACC module to limit battery charge to 80% and also I think it controls the current if the stock charger is used. The phone looks and feels brand new and is located in Canada.
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Maybe contact with @TeamMex?
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Maybe contact with @TeamMex?
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Yes, probably my #1 choice and maybe Alberto but I think he moved on to a different device. It would be good for a developer to respond here and make a statement or some other senior member advise them of this opportunity. I would be willing to pay for shipping, or split the shipping or some form of donation for shipping would be nice too. It's a team effort, the way I see it.

What are the chances of having a good custom rom support for this device?

Hi,
I realized that custom rom support is very minimal(if not non-existent) for almost all samsung devices. That could be due to the Exynos soc and closed sources. But this device comes with snapdragon soc. It also appears like samsung has released the source too (https://opensource.samsung.com/uploadSearch?searchValue=sm-m51), not sure how useful it might be. So, what are the chances for getting a good custom support for this device?
On a side note, a general question - what would make a device more custom rom developer friendly?
-> kernel sources?
-> easy to unlock?
-> more userbase?
-> anything else?
I am asking this because there are other samsung devices m40(zero roms), a70(few, but all unofficial/discontinued) which come with snapdragon and have sources but little to no custom roms. What was the underlying reason? (just interested in knowing)
Thank you
The odds are generally low with Samsung, partially because of Knox.
RivaLCF said:
The odds are generally low with Samsung, partially because of Knox.
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1. Did I do a mistake?
I held back buying other better Samsung phones just because those have Exynos and worried about Dev support.
I am not too optimistic of getting Android 12 from Samsung for this device. I always hoped of Dev support for this because of SD.
2. Though this phone has no feature that requires Knox, it still has Knox inside. Any idea why?
raghu13uk said:
1. Did I do a mistake?
I held back buying other better Samsung phones just because those have Exynos and worried about Dev support.
I am not too optimistic of getting Android 12 from Samsung for this device. I always hoped of Dev support for this because of SD.
2. Though this phone has no feature that requires Knox, it still has Knox inside. Any idea why?
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I think even if Knox is an issue, we still get many custom ROMs on Samsung flagship phones. so I would assume it should be possible to have a workaround on that. I am not sure though.
knox seems to be a big thing against samsung phone modifications, but well, i'm using lineage 17.1 right now on this phone

Question Disappointment, with solution?

I am a big fan of cell phones and installing custom roms.
In the past I have had several oneplus like the o 3t, 6t, 7pro, and without a doubt the one that has disappointed me the most is the one I have now, the 9 pro European version.
It was already a big shock the purchase price, but I longed for the old days in which you could find dozens of functional roms for your oneplus and enjoyed exploring it.
Before I bought it I saw that there was community so I decided to get the 9 pro... but after half a year I am quite disappointed.
It makes me sad that there is no rom with all the features perfectly validated, battery life and customization superior to the stock rom and with the native camera app, I always believed that custom roms served to improve the stock one (very sloppy compared to previous times), but at the moment it is not so.
I admire developers a lot, and I know how difficult it is, just maybe my mistake was waiting for this oneplus to have its soul of the past, and now I don't know if it has a solution or it is better to sell it before its price plummets.
Unfortunately, the stability does suffer on the 9 Pro. It's one of the things you'll have to live with. To be fair, most phones aren't that great in 2022. Samsung has horrible battery life and Apple's caught in that iCloud scanning controversy. Pixel 6 is meh for a phone, the chip just can't keep up.
So pick your poison.
aforocars said:
I am a big fan of cell phones and installing custom roms.
In the past I have had several oneplus like the o 3t, 6t, 7pro, and without a doubt the one that has disappointed me the most is the one I have now, the 9 pro European version.
It was already a big shock the purchase price, but I longed for the old days in which you could find dozens of functional roms for your oneplus and enjoyed exploring it.
Before I bought it I saw that there was community so I decided to get the 9 pro... but after half a year I am quite disappointed.
It makes me sad that there is no rom with all the features perfectly validated, battery life and customization superior to the stock rom and with the native camera app, I always believed that custom roms served to improve the stock one (very sloppy compared to previous times), but at the moment it is not so.
I admire developers a lot, and I know how difficult it is, just maybe my mistake was waiting for this oneplus to have its soul of the past, and now I don't know if it has a solution or it is better to sell it before its price plummets.
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if you think stock OS is better than custom rom for the 9pro, just stick with stock.
if you are not satisfied with the result from people who do support custom roms in their free time, maybe think about doing it yourself instead of complaining.
also there is probably a reason, why the stock cam is not available in any custom rom...
there are great gcam alternatives, that work well.
for me the custom rom is way better, after the OOS 12 disaster from oneplus.
aforocars said:
It makes me sad that there is no rom with all the features perfectly validated, battery life and customization superior to the stock rom and with the native camera app, I always believed that custom roms served to improve the stock one (very sloppy compared to previous times), but at the moment it is not so.
I admire developers a lot, and I know how difficult it is, just maybe my mistake was waiting for this oneplus to have its soul of the past, and now I don't know if it has a solution or it is better to sell it before its price plummets.
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I'm afraid you don't understand how development works. Custom ROM developers rely mainly on how developer friendly a phone manufacturer is. OnePlus has known a steady decline in community support in the past few years. You would be amazed how difficult it is to make components like a fingerprint reader or camera work properly if no sources are released. This is a massive challenge that this community struggles with every single day. To be honest I'm even surprised they get the hardware working so fast. I'm not familiar with today's hacks but I remember the camera of the OnePlus "Bacon" One was quite the piece of work. I am still thankful to @Sultanxda for the near magic he performed on this and many other devices. Interesting read: Cameras in Custom ROMs: How Developers Make Hardware Work without Source Code
But that was then, "simpler times". With all added security measures by Big G nowadays and how reluctant OnePlus has become to cooperate with the very community that made them so great it can only have become more difficult. They say "added security" but they really mean "protecting our economic interests". If custom development is so important to you it should've been a part of your selection process when buying a new phone. That's what I asked myself when I was looking for a device for my son: "What's cheap, has a decent battery, some gaming capabilities and has a solid development community?". I got him a Xiaomi Poco M3, no regrets. I've been on the 6T for over 3 years now and will likely be on the lookout for an upgrade later this year. Development will be an important selling point. Nothing looks promising! If it's going to be as 'open' as they claim, it will have amazing community support.
TL;DR: Don't look to independant devs about quirky ROM development, complain to the companies about their lack of community support instead.
vincemue said:
if you think stock OS is better than custom rom for the 9pro, just stick with stock.
if you are not satisfied with the result from people who do support custom roms in their free time, maybe think about doing it yourself instead of complaining.
also there is probably a reason, why the stock cam is not available in any custom rom...
there are great gcam alternatives, that work well.
for me the custom rom is way better, after the OOS 12 disaster from oneplus.
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vincemue said:
if you think stock OS is better than custom rom for the 9pro, just stick with stock.
if you are not satisfied with the result from people who do support custom roms in their free time, maybe think about doing it yourself instead of complaining.
also there is probably a reason, why the stock cam is not available in any custom rom...
there are great gcam alternatives, that work well.
for me the custom rom is way better, after the OOS 12 disaster from oneplus.
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The point of my comment was not any criticism of developers, maybe I should have put this " I admire developers a lot" in bold.
Neither stock rom nor custom roms are what they used to be in oneplus devices.
Timmmmaaahh! said:
I'm afraid you don't understand how development works. Custom ROM developers rely mainly on how developer friendly a phone manufacturer is. OnePlus has known a steady decline in community support in the past few years. You would be amazed how difficult it is to make components like a fingerprint reader or camera work properly if no sources are released. This is a massive challenge that this community struggles with every single day. To be honest I'm even surprised they get the hardware working so fast. I'm not familiar with today's hacks but I remember the camera of the OnePlus "Bacon" One was quite the piece of work. I am still thankful to @Sultanxda for the near magic he performed on this and many other devices. Interesting read: Cameras in Custom ROMs: How Developers Make Hardware Work without Source Code
But that was then, "simpler times". With all added security measures by Big G nowadays and how reluctant OnePlus has become to cooperate with the very community that made them so great it can only have become more difficult. They say "added security" but they really mean "protecting our economic interests". If custom development is so important to you it should've been a part of your selection process when buying a new phone. That's what I asked myself when I was looking for a device for my son: "What's cheap, has a decent battery, some gaming capabilities and has a solid development community?". I got him a Xiaomi Poco M3, no regrets. I've been on the 6T for over 3 years now and will likely be on the lookout for an upgrade later this year. Development will be an important selling point. Nothing looks promising! If it's going to be as 'open' as they claim, it will have amazing community support.
TL;DR: Don't look to independant devs about quirky ROM development, complain to the companies about their lack of community support instead.
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I probably know the world of development a lot better than you think... , I wasn't complaining at all about the developers, just my misconception that oneplus was what it used to be.
aforocars said:
I probably know the world of development a lot better than you think... , I wasn't complaining at all about the developers, just my misconception that oneplus was what it used to be.
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So we're basically saying the same thing? Alright then! Easy discussion. Maybe literally say you're disappointed in OnePlus next time, that would've made more sense.

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