S-pen discharged for long time - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

I know that Note9 had capacitor inside s-pen, which can be leaved discarded for long time without wear.
Note10 has normal battery inside, so what happen when I leave it discharged for months? Is there any info from Samsung?

capacitor as well
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According to Samsung:
Note9: S-Pen Powered by Super Capacitor (30min)
Note10: S-Pen Powered by rechargeable Battery (10h)

Why in the world would it be discharged for months? Don't you house it in the phone?

konvalink said:
According to Samsung:
Note9: S-Pen Powered by Super Capacitor (30min)
Note10: S-Pen Powered by rechargeable Battery (10h)
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thanks! mind sharing where you got this information?
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konvalink said:
According to Samsung:
Note9: S-Pen Powered by Super Capacitor (30min)
Note10: S-Pen Powered by rechargeable Battery (10h)
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Capacitor
About the 2 minute mark in this one.

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Can we keel the charger plugged in cont

Hi guyz
Can we keep the charger plugged in even it is fully charged?
Will this make any problem to battery?
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Hi guyz
Can we keep the charger plugged in even it is fully charged?
Will this make any problem to battery?
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there are no problems whatsoever with doing this.
Depends on your definition of continuously.
You need to let the battery drain at least a little once in awhile.
I had a laptop that I left plugged in with the (li-ion) battery for a long time and now the battery is useless.
yep, if you NEVER unplug it - the battery will be completely useless
if you are thinking of keeping it continuously plugged in, what i do with laptops is just to remove the battery and use it without
panyan said:
yep, if you NEVER unplug it - the battery will be completely useless
if you are thinking of keeping it continuously plugged in, what i do with laptops is just to remove the battery and use it without
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I dont think it can wofk with note. cause if u un plug batt. It cant use usb instead. Can it?
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mirzayousef said:
I dont think it can wofk with note. cause if u un plug batt. It cant use usb instead. Can it?
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Works on mine.
1. Keep battery in note
2. Plug charger
3. Turn Note On (if it isn't already)
4. Remove battery
Note should stay awake
^Wow.. Really? I'll do that at work! No more killing my batt! Thanks
Edit: and fail... killed the phone. I guess it doesn't work.
mmohideen90 said:
Hi guyz
Can we keep the charger plugged in even it is fully charged?
Will this make any problem to battery?
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Yes you can I do it every night. Sometimes I plugging in with 80% charge. I charge every night whether the phone needs it or not since I've had the Captivate I've had no issues. Sometimes I leave the phone on charge when I'm watching TV and it's next to me on the table. There is circuitry in chargers and in the phone to stop the charge when the phone is full It becomes a trickle charger after that
I leave my phone in one of a number of charging cradles when I'm home
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I went camping, and the only other batteries I had were smaller. The old batteries from my Vibrant (1500mAh) fit the Note, more or less. I just wedged a cut piece of packing foam in the gap at the bottom to make sure it stayed put (I contemplated taping it there).
Using an alternate, smaller, cheaper 3.7v would save you from blowing out your OEM battery (particularly if you have an old one that already won't hold a charge).
The manual says not to keep it plugged in for more than a week. I keep it plugged in for about 20 hours a day and have had no problems in six months or so.
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Keeping battery in Extra Battery Kit / Samsung Galaxy SIII

So I just picked up an extra battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy SIII.
I was wondering if the battery would slowly discharge if I kept a charged battery in the charger while using my primary battery.
should slowly discharge regardless. they are designed that way. my extras batts i would keep in my backpack would lose about 1-2% a week.
s0me guy said:
should slowly discharge regardless. they are designed that way. my extras batts i would keep in my backpack would lose about 1-2% a week.
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will they discharge faster if they are kept in the charger that comes with the extra battery kit?
i dont see why. could just put a piece of tape over the contacts if your that worried about it.
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i dont see why. could just put a piece of tape over the contacts if your that worried about it.
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a piece of tape?
SamGalS3_556 said:
a piece of tape?
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well if your worried about the charger draining the battery from being connected, putting a piece of tape over the contacts would stop it wouldn't it?
since there would be no way for electricity to flow between the two objects... cuz the tape is blocking it...

Extra battery problem

Bought two extra batteries to have in reserve or if I'm on a long trip being able to switch without charging. However I have been preoccupied with other things so I haven't switched among the batteries for over a month. I have a charge dock with holder for an extra battery and do another battery is always charging in it. I realizedthat I hadn't switched for a while so I took out my battery and inserted one of the others. Unfortunately it seems completely dead, the same goes for the one sitting in the charge dock. Is there anything I can do to revive those batteries? Or do I just have to eat crow? If nothing else, let this be a cautionary tale.
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Maybe you should try to charge the batteries using your Note and not the external charger.
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altae said:
Maybe you should try to charge the batteries using your Note and not the external charger.
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Did that but no dice. Guess I have to throw them away. Bummer!
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altae said:
Maybe you should try to charge the batteries using your Note and not the external charger.
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I have it a new try, removed the battery, inserted a depleted and charged it directly in the phone bypassing the dock. First it showed a yellow warning triangle which worried me but I let it stay. Lo and behold the next morning the battery was charged to 100%. Wonder why it works directly but not in the dock? Strange, anyway thank you for your suggestion.
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Kumabjorn said:
I have it a new try, removed the battery, inserted a depleted and charged it directly in the phone bypassing the dock. First it showed a yellow warning triangle which worried me but I let it stay. Lo and behold the next morning the battery was charged to 100%. Wonder why it works directly but not in the dock? Strange, anyway thank you for your suggestion.
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I cannot tell you why exactly it worked out for you but generally phones have more or less sophisticated circuits to charge batteries and avoid overcharge. Maybe the circuits in your dock are not optimal and thus it did not recognize the empty battery. I'm glad you could solve your problem.
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So am I, and now I know how to deal with it the next time it happens, thanks again.
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Just a little update. Turns out I can get life back into the Samsung original battery but the no-brand Chinese gold battery with 3250 mAh rating is completely dead. So I guess there is something to be said for original parts.
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ZeroLemon 2300mAh battery-HIGHEST CAPACITY SLIM BATTERY IN THE WORLD-CBA test~2400mah

Looks like ZeroLemon also have a slim battery for Galaxy S3 at rated 2300mAh. Given my experience with their 6300mAh capacity battery being more than they claim, these 2300mAh maybe more than 2300mAh :fingers-crossed: Anyone tried this yet? I'm going to jump on this for daily use and have the extended battery for weekend use if this turns out good:good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0IS6MU
frypan said:
Looks like ZeroLemon also have a slim battery for Galaxy S3 at rated 2300mAh. Given my experience with their 6300mAh capacity battery being more than they claim, these 2300mAh maybe more than 2300mAh :fingers-crossed: Anyone tried this yet? I'm going to jump on this for daily use and have the extended battery for weekend use if this turns out good:good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0IS6MU
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I have the 4500mAh battery and am VERY happy with it. I am not impressed by advertising that says "Highest capacity slim profile battery". That may be so, but you can only get so much power from a slim line battery. I thought I would never go to a battery that would require changing the size of my phone by putting on a different battery cover, BUT I'm glad I did.
The 4500mHh battery has been well worth it, IMHO. Got it from Gorilla gadgets, BTW.
Looks like it doesn't support NFC. I know that's a deal breaker for some.
I wouldn't trust anyone but Samsung to build a battery that fits under our stock battery cover that provides anything more than we already get.
Re: ZeroLemon 2300mAh battery - Largest Capacity Slim Battery in the world?
ISNT SAMSUNG COMING OUT OR DID COME OUT WITH THERE OWN EXTENDED BATTERY ALREADY ?
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otterboxfan4l said:
ISNT SAMSUNG COMING OUT OR DID COME OUT WITH THERE OWN EXTENDED BATTERY ALREADY ?
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They are, it's in the accessories forum here somewhere. Not sure where though?
otterboxfan4l said:
ISNT SAMSUNG COMING OUT OR DID COME OUT WITH THERE OWN EXTENDED BATTERY ALREADY ?
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I read a bunch of posts that said they were coming out with one.... It has been weeks though. I wish they could make a standard fit battery that pushes 3000-3300MAH like a droid MAXX battery.
You can try the polarcell which is rated at 2400mah and has the same size like stock.
Anyone tried these and have some results
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Man i want to see results.. Have been looking at these last couple of days on amazon. But not much info
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frypan said:
Just try them. Amazon has 30 days full refund policy. Can't go wrong with that
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Share your thoughts on it? Does it outlast the factory batt? You did buy it right? Lol.
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Just bought one, will compare to anker/stock and give a review when I get it
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Just ordered the set myself. Is there instructions for the first use? Fully Charge at first or something?
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Yes the instructions say charge for 12 hours before use and they have a break in of 5-6 charges for full battery life. Also they have NFC enabled crossed of in black sharpie on them the charger feels a little cheap too and flickers when you have your phone on the USB port while charging one oft the batteries. How they expect us to charge them both for 12 hours is odd the one I put in my phone charged much quicker than that and leaving it on longer is pointless as when they hit full safe chargers stop charging the batteries.
Battery 1 finished in 10 hours on the charger battery 2 finished in 2 hours in phone on stock charger stock battery is in charger now.
Charger had the following colors for led
Blue- no battery powered
Pink-battery charging
Purple- battery done
Also while charging and using the USB port is possible the charger led flickers when doing so. I don't believe it has enough amps to power both unfortunately. None of the batteries got warm at all while charging.
As for NFC Samsung should have never put it in the battery to begin with I'm thinking about getting a galaxy note 2 back pulling the NFC ant out of it and putting it in my s3 as they put the contacts for wireless charging and NFC external ant in our phones.
mirrin said:
Yes the instructions say charge for 12 hours before use and they have a break in of 5-6 charges for full battery life. Also they have NFC enabled crossed of in black sharpie on them the charger feels a little cheap too and flickers when you have your phone on the USB port while charging one oft the batteries. How they expect us to charge them both for 12 hours is odd the one I put in my phone charged much quicker than that and leaving it on longer is pointless as when they hit full safe chargers stop charging the batteries.
Battery 1 finished in 10 hours on the charger battery 2 finished in 2 hours in phone on stock charger stock battery is in charger now.
Charger had the following colors for led
Blue- no battery powered
Pink-battery charging
Purple- battery done
Also while charging and using the USB port is possible the charger led flickers when doing so. I don't believe it has enough amps to power both unfortunately. None of the batteries got warm at all while charging.
As for NFC Samsung should have never put it in the battery to begin with I'm thinking about getting a galaxy note 2 back pulling the NFC ant out of it and putting it in my s3 as they put the contacts for wireless charging and NFC external ant in our phones.
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Hows the performance of the batteries vs stock?
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Not sure yet just got them today and they just finished charging for the first time. After I use them for a couple days I'll post here. Overall they seem just as well made as the stock battery perhaps a bit heavier but I would need a very accurate scale to find out just how many grams they are.
mirrin said:
Not sure yet just got them today and they just finished charging for the first time. After I use them for a couple days I'll post here. Overall they seem just as well made as the stock battery perhaps a bit heavier but I would need a very accurate scale to find out just how many grams they are.
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Kool. I should get mine today as well.
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I'm using a 3200 that fits with the regular s3 back. Got it off of flea bay and it has NFC, it was $45 & some change. Using my ballistic brand case.
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How much screen time?
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Battery mod lol

ok guys you can laugh as much as you want but i did it lol . i used to have the nexus that google used to sell which was a great phone i had 2 backup batteries for the phone . i was looking at my note two and note 3 and was looking at the difference in battery in each one and found a way to run the nexus battery on the note 2 and the note 3 lol it looks ghetto but works and i never have to run to charger. look at the pics
you can see the size difference in the battery size is major but the battery for the nexus does last pretty damn good for some reason. on the nexus battery on the side where the metal connections are i shaved off the tabs on that side look at pics lol
R.I.P batteries or Note 3. :| Lol.
Exel said:
R.I.P batteries or Note 3. :| Lol.
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Well the battery from the nexus was just sitting in my desk not being used being that ibsold the nexus . So I was like wait will this work in my note 2 and 3 it did. Very little mods needed yo be done other then shaving a peace of wood or plastic to hold the battery in place and shaving the tabs on one side off so it would sit flush against the pins .
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What capacity is the spare battery
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Its a 1750mAh
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MERK77 said:
Its a 1750mAh
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Half the capacity and an older battery lasting longer ..........
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Its def lasting atleast half the day and I was suprised when it did .
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I commend you for the idea here but I think we would like to see a screenshot of the battery usage stats.
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aalupatti said:
Half the capacity and an older battery lasting longer ..........
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Sure do you recommend a program to mesure how the battery performs.
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Ghetto fabulous.
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I modified mine to run off of 3 AAA duracell batteries. Back cover bulges out though... maybe ill try this instead
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It might run okay for now, but in the end you'll blow up the battery and make the phone unstable. The GN3 battery is 3.8V while the GNex battery is 3.7V. Yes, that 0.1V makes a difference - the phone will charge the GNex battery with a too high voltage which can cause it to overheat and swell. The phone running off 3.7V will be underpowered and might or might not randomly crash.
This thread scares me....
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siraltus said:
It might run okay for now, but in the end you'll blow up the battery and make the phone unstable. The GN3 battery is 3.8V while the GNex battery is 3.7V. Yes, that 0.1V makes a difference - the phone will charge the GNex battery with a too high voltage which can cause it to overheat and swell. The phone running off 3.7V will be underpowered and might or might not randomly crash.
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It's not that big of a deal. Lithium batteries have an upper limit of 4.2 Volts which is why if you use a general purpose charger such as those used for charging RC packs you can charge Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries both on the same setting. Either way it charges them up to 4.2V and then cuts off. Once a load is applied, the battery drops to its nominal voltage - 3.7 or 3.8V and remains at that level for most of its life before rapidly dropping off when it gets low. When this happens cut-off circuitry kicks in around 3.2V or so to prevent the battery from discharging too much which will permanently damage it. Since the battery can't be safely charged above 4.2 or let drop below 3.2 or so, all the charging and discharging is managed by a chip designed for that purpose. Also, it means that you can't overcharge your battery by leaving your phone plugged in 24/7 as the charging chip will stop charging when it reaches that upper limit.
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It's not that big of a deal. Lithium batteries have an upper limit of 4.2 Volts which is why if you use a general purpose charger such as those used for charging RC packs you can charge Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries both on the same setting. Either way it charges them up to 4.2V and then cuts off.
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Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.7 voltage should be charged to 4.20 V or so.
Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.8 voltage are typically charged to 4.30 or 4.35 V. It's a new type of lithium ion battery with different chemistry, and hence the different voltages. If you take a battery meant to be charged to 4.20 V and repeatedly charge it to 4.35 V, its cycle life will be significantly reduced. 0.1 V difference will reduce the cycle life by something on the order of 50%. Here is a reference: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Apple, Samsung, and Motorola seem to be using this new type of battery, and the phones are charging them to 4.30 or 4.35 V. I'm not sure how widespread the technology is or if it has trickled into aftermarket battery offerings.
I commend you for your work and glad your getting more battery life with this mod but I'm sure most of us are fine with the life of the phone stock gives us without any modifications or just wait til zero lemon releases their behemoth 10k mah battery with zero shock case to protect the phone.
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awesome. this means i will probably be able to stick 4pin samsung batteries in my note2. must be sure the 3 pins on the note2 correctly connect pos and neg with the plates on the 4-pin batteries. in a few years the note2 replacement batteries on ebay will have shorter lifespan due to storage in the warehouse. instead i may purchase a battery for a then current model (such as galaxy s6 battery) and stick that that in my note2.
Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.7 voltage should be charged to 4.20 V or so.
Lithium ion batteries with a nominal 3.8 voltage are typically charged to 4.30 or 4.35 V. It's a new type of lithium ion battery with different chemistry, and hence the different voltages. If you take a battery meant to be charged to 4.20 V and repeatedly charge it to 4.35 V, its cycle life will be significantly reduced. 0.1 V difference will reduce the cycle life by something on the order of 50%. Here is a reference: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Apple, Samsung, and Motorola seem to be using this new type of battery, and the phones are charging them to 4.30 or 4.35 V. I'm not sure how widespread the technology is or if it has trickled into aftermarket battery offerings.
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But with this new 'smart battery' and 'smart charger' system it seems very likely that the battery's capabilities are read by the charger so that the charger will not cause damage. It might be that the charger will adjust the charging protocol if it can support the battery's needs, or perhaps refuse to charge an unsupported battery. I think if he measures the charging voltage he might find that it is different for the two batteries.
Frank
Thanks to this, I will have more battery life. Cheers! Just kidding!
Thanks
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