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[Q] The most stupid idiotic thing ever!!

Have just changed network to three mobile (UK), because they have great all you can eat data phone tarrif.
I also just bought replacement n1520 after the old one broke and samsun wont honor waranty.
They wont let me use the internet on the phone as they say its a tablet not a phone, and i need to get data sim which i wont be able to make phone calls!
aparantly 5.7" is ok but 8" is too big for a screen.
this is nutts three wont allow the n5100/n5120 to be used as designed.
£300 out of pocket on phone and now tied into 12 month contract.
anybody know any way to get the data to work?
john

photoscubaman said:
Have just changed network to three mobile (UK), because they have great all you can eat data phone tarrif.
I also just bought replacement n1520 after the old one broke and samsun wont honor waranty.
They wont let me use the internet on the phone as they say its a tablet not a phone, and i need to get data sim which i wont be able to make phone calls!
aparantly 5.7" is ok but 8" is too big for a screen.
this is nutts three wont allow the n5100/n5120 to be used as designed.
£300 out of pocket on phone and now tied into 12 month contract.
anybody know any way to get the data to work?
john
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Used a sim from a working phone and got the EE error after unlocking my ATT LTE Note 8.0.
Found a booth at the mall and found you need to get a data only SIM for tablets... Tested on Virgin in Scotland and worked fine, don't like Virgin. Soon I will be going to Amsterdam to pick a plan and service plus the SIM is cheaper as well.

gooberdude said:
Used a sim from a working phone and got the EE error after unlocking my ATT LTE Note 8.0.
Found a booth at the mall and found you need to get a data only SIM for tablets... Tested on Virgin in Scotland and worked fine, don't like Virgin. Soon I will be going to Amsterdam to pick a plan and service plus the SIM is cheaper as well.
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I can confirm that the phone works great on Virgin as i was conected to their network prior to joing three.
have now escalted to exc office and it has been confirmed they have no plans to enable the galaxy note 8 to be used on Three

I too have a Note 8 N5120 and absolutely thrilled using it with Gear1 etc...like you I was on Three and was blocked data, so both me and the wife cancelled the Direct Debit and are now both with o2 (amazing 4G) with a 5 Gig of data plan, unlimited calls and texts, both comes to around £50 a month, sim only for both mind as we already had phones.
I tend to use speakerphone a lot more than using voice from the watch as they are both audible to the public and quality is better from phone anyway so the Gear is neither here nor there I suppose, but crack on with the Note 8 its a fantastic device to use as a phone.
As for Three, wake up and smell the coffee, listen to what people want!!!!
Simply call them up like I did and explain you are not paying a single penny for the contract as they block your Note 8 from data, if everyone done this they might change this stupid rule..

Is there any way to spoof the identity of the device so three think it's a galaxy s5 or something?
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AMoosa said:
Is there any way to spoof the identity of the device so three think it's a galaxy s5 or something?
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afaik it detects the IMEI number, so they must have 2 lists, phone IMEI's and tablet IMEI's....1 list is blocked and the other isnt...

[Q] Is this a viable phone for me?

Hi!
I previously had a Note 4 for a day or two after release, coming from at that time, an iPhone. I subsequently returned the note, kept the iPhone, and recently upgraded to the 6+. Now with ATT's mobile share, I'm looking at adding a second line for how cheap it is. I'd like for that second line to be an android device, to get the best of both worlds. As a result of being out of the mix when it comes to android, or more like never having been in it, I have a couple questions.
I distinctly remember how much junk was on my ATT Note 4. Junk apps from Samsung, junk from ATT- and worst of all, I couldn't do anything about it (no root?). Has that changed? Is there a way to remove these apps, fix touch wiz annoyances, etc? I'd think that would require root, but like I mentioned, I don't know the details of note4 root status, or even rooting in general.
I currently have a Nexus 6 and Oneplus One on order (good prices on both of them), but personally like the Note4 the best- can I change it to make it perfect? Or is it still locked down and junked up?
Thanks for your help!

Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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I just bought my note 4 two weeks ago. If I could go back in time I would have bought the nexus 6. This phone lags too much for my liking. It is actually slower than my g2 was at opening apps. I thought I would like this phone but at this point regret my choice.

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Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!

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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!
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OK heres what you do if they won't let you buy it straight up. Buy the t mobile version on the payment plan because like that there's no contact or ETF. Go home and make a call for 5 min on T mobile sim, then submit the imei to cell unlocker net. Then in a few days call and cancel the service with Tmobile and pay the remainder of the phone off, which by the way is $100 cheaper then the AT&T version. After receiving the unlock code from cell unlocker stick the AT&T sim in and when it boots it will ask for the unlock code, put it in and your good to go.
I have both versions of the note 4 and the t mobile version works perfect on the AT&T network except you have root, custom roms and kernels. All the rom developers in the note 4 t mobile forum full support the AT&T network in there roms straight out the box.
You might want to wait 3 months for the note 5 because this phone is already dated and is a big investment.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the help Sand, that is a great explanation. The tmobile device is clearly better then- no loss of service quality or anything, but still having the root, roms, etc. I think regardless of the imminent release of the note 5, I might still get the four for now, or just keep that incoming OPO One- waiting 3 months for the note 5, plus however much more time for rooting dev is a bit long for me. Regardless, I appreciate your information!

Verzion note 7 activation, switch

I am heading to New York in early December for a few days. I have a Note 7 as my primary phone. I know i cannot take it with me on an airplane.
I was considering switching to another device but am afraid that when i go to switch back, it won't work.
Another idea is that on the Verizon webpage it has the option to let you switch phones between lines on your account. I could switch phones for the few days and switch back afterwards... but the same thing... will it not work when i attempt to switch?
Has anyone with Verizon as their carrier tried this or something similar?
thanks
p.s. This post is not an invitation to the haters and trolls who comment worthless things about turning the phone in. Go back to your safe spaces... the grown ups are talking

crash613 said:
I am heading to New York in early December for a few days. I have a Note 7 as my primary phone. I know i cannot take it with me on an airplane.
I was considering switching to another device but am afraid that when i go to switch back, it won't work.
Another idea is that on the Verizon webpage it has the option to let you switch phones between lines on your account. I could switch phones for the few days and switch back afterwards... but the same thing... will it not work when i attempt to switch?
Has anyone with Verizon as their carrier tried this or something similar?
thanks
p.s. This post is not an invitation to the haters and trolls who comment worthless things about turning the phone in. Go back to your safe spaces... the grown ups are talking
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You can switch the SIM back and forth. As long as the IMEI on the Note 7 is not blacklisted it will work. I still have my Note 7 and I got an LG V20 and my SIM is in my LG G3 and I can switch between them all no problem.

Don't you have to call in to have them activated every time you change to a different phone?

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Don't you have to call in to have them activated every time you change to a different phone?
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Why would you need to do that lol?
You paid for the phones and are paying for the service its your decision which device to use...I go back and forth between phones all the time..
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I also thought you had to call in to Verizon. SIM switching without calling would make it a whole new ball game. I would have been afraid you'd never get it reactivated if taken out of service at all.

Just sim switch and let it complete it's provisioning steps. You only need to call if there is an issue with the 4g sim not provisioning. Then they can add it on manually. Ill be doing that with my n4 when traveling.

force70 said:
Why would you need to do that lol?
You paid for the phones and are paying for the service its your decision which device to use...I go back and forth between phones all the time..
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I was under the impression that any time you moved a sim from one phone to another you had to call Verizon for them to activate the sim on the phone you switched to. Pretty sure I am not the only one who thought this. If you can just swap the sim between phones, well of course this would be nice and make keeping the N7 as a daily driver and switch to a different phone when flying or travelling doable.

teegunn said:
I was under the impression that any time you moved a sim from one phone to another you had to call Verizon for them to activate the sim on the phone you switched to. Pretty sure I am not the only one who thought this. If you can just swap the sim between phones, well of course this would be nice and make keeping the N7 as a daily driver and switch to a different phone when flying or travelling doable.
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Well Im in canada and no such BS exists here...that sounds completely unreasonable though

I'm experiencing the SAME issue. Yesterday there was a snow storm here in NY and while I was playing games on my note 7 out of nowhere my data went out. I checked through "Mobile Data" settings to ensure it's on, toggled airplane mode, restarted, even pulled the sim and put it in my Note 5 but I'm experiencing the same issue.
My next step was one of two options:
A) I call verizon to re-activate my Note 5 with my SIM I swapped in from the Note 7 (but i'm afraid they'll recognize I still have my "refunded" Note 7.
B) Edit the APN Network information cuz .... idk I was trying "everything"
But, as teegunn said, I have to call Verizon to have them switch my account to my note 5. I checked their website and it wont let me do it through there, it says to call.
Anyone ever figured out if we can swap here in the US without an issue?
I love my note 7 too much to let it go....

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I'm experiencing the SAME issue. Yesterday there was a snow storm here in NY and while I was playing games on my note 7 out of nowhere my data went out. I checked through "Mobile Data" settings to ensure it's on, toggled airplane mode, restarted, even pulled the sim and put it in my Note 5 but I'm experiencing the same issue.
My next step was one of two options:
A) I call verizon to re-activate my Note 5 with my SIM I swapped in from the Note 7 (but i'm afraid they'll recognize I still have my "refunded" Note 7.
B) Edit the APN Network information cuz .... idk I was trying "everything"
But, as teegunn said, I have to call Verizon to have them switch my account to my note 5. I checked their website and it wont let me do it through there, it says to call.
Anyone ever figured out if we can swap here in the US without an issue?
I love my note 7 too much to let it go....
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I was hotlined (for the first time) on the 30th... it took multiple online chats, phone calls, and ultimately a trip to the nearest Verizon store to get a new sim card (they had cut service to both my Note7 sim and my Note 4 sim) to get up and running on my old Note 4. I waited a few days and, borrowing some confidence from @tricktaylor, used Verizon's online portal to reactivate my Note7, with the original sim card, like it was any other device.
I was hotlined again last night (at least, that's when I noticed it) and all it took was a quick online chat this morning to switch service back to my Note 4. I'll wait a few days before trying to reactive my Note7 unless someone reports back, in the interim, that the wait-time is unnecessary.

Im literally switching to N4 right now. Hope all goes well. I said I'm returning the N7 but i have no plans to. I don't know when I'll be switching back to N7, I don't want to go through this once a week. But at some point they'll have to give up and at this point I'll wait them out for spite.
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Im back to n4... for the time being but I'm sure there's nothing stopping from switching back to N7 right now. At some point they will have to stop doing these imei checks. Stay strong they'll quit or someone smarter than I will come up with a solution on our side...

Screw it.
I'm impatient. I trimmed my Note 4 micro sim down to a nano sim. I'm popping it into my Note7. And...
IT'S ALIVE!

I gotta try that. I'm scared to cut mine. dont they still see its an imei of a n7?

I switch my VZW sim to at least 5 different phones including the Note 7 and never had to call it in and it just works.

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I gotta try that. I'm scared to cut mine. dont they still see its an imei of a n7?
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It appears as though they're not actively monitoring which devices are being used or activated, they are just conducting sporadic sweeps to temporally deactivate SIM cards presently used in conjunction with Note7's. Once the SIM is activated with a different device, or once the Note7 is activated with a different SIM, you're good to go.
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So last I updated this I ordered a free sim from Verizon for my n7. They sent it I piped it in and it's working.

Note 4 Region Lock

Good day All.
Somebody recently purchased a Verizon Galaxy Note 4 from a retailer on Amazon in "Like New" condition. But apparently the phone was a display unit and was never used for calling purposes. As you know Samsung applies a region lock on their phones which can only be lifted by making a 5 minute voice call. So while I'm pretty certain that the phone is factory unlocked like most modern Verizon phones, but I still need to lift the region lock off the phone. Doing some research I saw that the Note 3 was compatible with an app called "RegionLock Away" but I can't seem to come across any confirmation that it works with the Note 4 or whether or not the Note 4 is still rootable. Assuming it is, what would you say is the best course of action for somebody that lives in the Bahamas?
a) Root the phone. Install RegionLockAway and get rid of the region lock
b) Order a verizon(can it be at&t or T-Mobile?) prepaid sim and make a 5 min voice call?

Keeping the Verizon Note 7 alive

Guys,
I don't know how many of us are left but I'm sure the numbers are few and I believe this might be the best forum on the interwebs for this. I have a serious question and I want a place I can get some ongoing feedback and interaction and I know you are up to the task!
My Onyx Black Note 7 (bestest/most favortitist phone I've ever held) was summarily hotlined late last month. I was successful in getting it turned back on only to have it happen again 1 week later. SAD. I re-activated my Note 3 and now have two devices I use daily which seems really dumb. I WANT MY NOTE 7 BACK!!! I have been reading about trimming SIM cards down to fit and see that some have had promising results.
I contacted a buddy who works in a Verizon corporate store and he said that trimming my Micro SIM, from my active Note 3, to Nano size and putting it in my Note 7 would work...but not for long. They will eventually hotline me again (darn IMEI).
So...who has done/tried this? How did it go? How long did it last?
After the big trim, my SIM won't work in my Note 3 any longer and I'll have to get a replacement. This doesn't sound like a game I want to play till Fall.
I would like to believe that at some point they might stop the hotline game but it's probably wishful thinking.
Thanks Team.

i kept mine too and it does make a cool little tablet. if i could get it back on verizon's network i most definitely would do so.
but another issue is this: i took the replacement and therefore have the PHE firmware and am unable to root. but even if i could root, who would put together a ROM for such a device? there are only a handful of people who are in this boat. but that said, root for the PHE firmware would be nice to have...

I recently just let my phone go. It isn't worth it in the end, unless you take the phone to another network or really, really want to deal with with the company as a whole. My phone was hot lined, just like everyone else's. I had another rep take the hotline off, and had the note working again for about a week till it was turned off again. After emailing the CEO, and eventually talking to corporate office, the woman over the phone offered me, at best, a free certified S4 with a $20 increase to my line access fee for a 2-year contract. This option would have costed me the price of another Note7 in the end. At that point, going up in the chain isn't going to get you a refund, nor will they allow the phone to work on the network.
In the legal realm, Verizon can't hot line a phone because they "feel like the device is dangerous". They can't hot line a phone because "they want too" either. They can only hot line a phone under whatever clauses warrant it. If you bring this information to a Verizon rep, and ask them to provide prove that the US CPSC specifically is forcing all cell phone companies to hotline the phone...blah blah blah they'll tell you cool get a lawyer and go up the chain. Even mentioning the term "voluntary" recall triggers them. The store i went into, actually just to give someone a hard time over the whole thing, physically stepped away from me when he saw my phone and the look on his face was utter disgust, like what am I still doing with it? But, whatever.
Beyond all the legality, the system itself is auditing accounts with valid ID's. Note7 IMEI's that is. If the system catches one on an active line, the phone will get hot lined. At that point, you have to find a tech rep who will switch it off, or just reactivate the device. Nobody knows how often or how long the system audit will stay on for, but its there and that can not be avoided. With the system in place, AND fighting an entire company who doesn't want another liability issue, its just over.
The two solutions that current work: Fight the system, or bring the phone to a prepaid network. I'm sorry, and I wish I could offer you more help. I mean hell, I was given the device for free and I still fought to keep using it. Long after the whole thing went down with the recall and everything.

Thanks for the replies.
Yeah it sucks.
I pre-ordered mine, spent week setting it up perfectly only to have to return it a month later. I then followed every forum and had every conceivable block in place in the end, to avoid some crippling malady (so far still 100% charging, no nag screen. Did these happen to any Verizon customers?) Then came the dreaded hotline. The first time I was hit, they directed all of my outgoing calls to my personal voice mail message making it impossible to even call customer support. I had to borrow a phone to call in.
And now... it's a gorgeous, joy to hold wi-fi tablet.
My hope is that they will stop this hotline nonsense at some point and I can do the SIM swap. I have read a couple of posts that swapping back and forth isn't all that difficult but even so, sounds like a PITA.
In the end I'm just sad about the whole situation but I'm sure a new and improved Note will lift my spirits and all will be right in my world again.
Cheers

has anyone done the rooting for the note 7 and had it fail in odin process what do i do so i may proceed and get it rooted successfully?

I'm doing the same exact thing as you: Using two devices daily.
I use my cracked Galaxy S4 for call & SMS (which is rarely) and my Note 7 for everything else.
Just waiting till the day I can buy the Galaxy S8 and only have to carry around one device.

My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.

[A note 3 SIM won't work because it's too big, the chip part is larger than the entire Note 7 SIM. Those that have done this are using Note 4 or later SIMs.

Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?

Is Verizon's method based on the phone IMEI or build.prop device name? With root it's easy to change the build.prop and with Xposed there's an IMEI change module. Would this work?
I have 3 Note 7's, non are rooted yet. Not sure which updates they have but I'm going to try.

Groffice said:
Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?
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S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.

Spike96 said:
S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.
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So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.

Groffice said:
So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.
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Yep absolutely. The S pen is cool and all, but I haven't really used it in months.
I just hope Samsung integrates the GIF maker into the Galaxy S8 plus, that's the coolest function.

I'm still rockin my n7 fully functional... minus the crack on the back glass. So mad. They tried many things but I'm using it right now
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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit

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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit
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I hope so!! Please keep us updated ok?
Thanks

Still going strong!
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Oyeve said:
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Exactly what I'm doing. Signed up for T-Mobile one and using their sim. I plan on using it till the note 8 is released

Went the whole month of February suspended, then I activated a s7 and switched the sim over to the n7. Been working since the first. Returned the s7, holding out til the s8 plus has been out awhile before jumping to that.
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The s7 felt so slow and gimped compared to the n7. Can't go backwards in the smartphone world.

Thinking About Doing Same Thing
Oyeve said:
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex

Sans SIM, Successful Hard Factory Reset on Note 7
Egyptmex said:
Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex
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After backing up my Note 7 and removing the SIM card, I am pleased to report that the dreaded OTA update I successfully dodged for months when I was a Verizon customer no longer appears after a hard reset (simultaneous press of Home, Power, and Volume Up buttons and then choosing factory reset from menu)!