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Would you say that the OnePlus 3 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the OnePlus 3 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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Everything opening fast and snappy, even from the cache. No issues with ram management in my case. Could be 3.1.2 fixed this issues for the most part.
Ummmmm...yeah. This phone is insanely fast!! My note 4 received 66~k reading. Lol.
Compared to the LG G4 I used before this is amazingly fast. Don't know if it's cos of the processor or the ram.
Blazingly Fast phone at an affordable price [emoji106]
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Yes, it's fast. Very pleased with its day to day use. I scored 144k on antutu.
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Yes, it's fast. Very pleased with its day to day use. I scored 144k on antutu.
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Is it faster than the Nexus 6P? I just had to get rid of my 6P and the OP3 seems like a good upgrade
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Is it faster than the Nexus 6P? I just had to get rid of my 6P and the OP3 seems like a good upgrade
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Yah, it is a little bit better performer. Overall I'm still uncertain if it's really much of an upgrade though. I haven't used it on a cell service yet nor have modded it yet. Each device is solid and I don't think you can go wrong with either.
Coming from 1+1, 1+x, moto x pure to 3. Definitely feels primo. Love the upgrade.
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Just got the phone today and have been playing with it the past couple hours. In some ways not a big upgrade from my Moto X Pure, but as far as speed it's an absolute joy to use. Everything is extremely snappy and smooth.
Coming from a 4 years old SGS 3 and it is incredibly fast. But i guess that feeling is normal coming from that old phone.
This phone is a straight up BEAST!
Have been using the device since the 17th. I have only rebooted it a couple times while I was doing rooting/moding/bootloader unlock because it was required to do so. I have yet to notice a single dropped frame during any sort of task. I have had 0 crashes. My only issue has ram management, but that was quickly fixed with the ram fix for root users; now I can literally have all my installed apps opened and cached in memory. This phone flies.
Indeed fast. Love the swiftness.
Oneplus 3 is extremely fast and smooth like nexus on steroid. Even though the display is 1080p but it was a super AMOLED screen from Samsung and it look excellent for white color calibration. I even think the white color on one plus 3 look more like it was calibrate on galaxy s6 than nexus 6p. Nexus 6p white color calibration i did not like due to it contain yellow tin look on the display and not white white like Samsung galaxy or iPhone.
Way faster than my 2015 Moto X Pure. Obviously not the RAM difference as the OP3 isn't using all of it's RAM, aside from reviewer releases, this is perhaps a bit lacking for some. The 820 is a BEAST! I always wondered why in the recent past they(QC) decided to use the whole ARM Big/Little setup... This quad core is, at least seems to be, much faster than previous generation octacores. Not only in benchmarks but also everyday use. Granted I'm coming from a hexacore, an 808 I believe.
Just goes to show that often times these spec wars are kinda of joke. Why would an android handset need more than 4 cores? Seriously. Give me 2 - 4 that are fast and energy efficient. As much as many here hate Apple I have to throw them some props for their A9. Dual core with only 2Gb of RAM? Driving that display too? All the while scoring really well on performance and battery benchmarks! That is some really great software optimization and hardware engineering.
I may be kind of the odd guy out here but I really enjoy the latest iOS experience, its such a well integrated platform. I haven't owned an iPhone since the 4 or 4s(I think) but they have come a long way since then. Of course I always Jailbroke them whenever possible. The whole Phandroid/iSheep phenomenon is so odd to me. They're both excellent platforms with their own limitations, advantages and quirks. That groups of people literally come out and strongly bash and insult each other over their choice of a mobile phone is so crazy to me. I mean seriously people, you're gonna be Apple or Google's troll/"PR" person? How about everyone just uses what they like to use without this "mine is better than yours" mentality. Who are these people trying to convince? Themselves?
Having said that I've always wondered if I should just pony up a bit more cash for the flagship Nexus device. I've always been curious if it received the close attention to optimization of the software to the particular hardware it was running on. That's what has always made me, at the least, respect the iPhone. If it's done right there isn't all that much better than a thoroughly integrated software/hardware package!
Sorry for yet another rant but I just couldn't help myself....
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Is it faster than the Nexus 6P? I just had to get rid of my 6P and the OP3 seems like a good upgrade
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im in the same boat im torn between the Nexus 6P and 1+3
i like the 6GB of ram on the 1+3 as i do abit of heavy multitasking, however the nexus has alittle better battery (i like my battery to last ages between charge)
i believe the 1+3 is a quad core whilst the 6p is a octa-core
still dont know which to get
The snapdragon 820 is far better than the 810. All the 810 do is throttle. This quad core destroy the 810. Just cause it's octa don't mean anything.
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I can't speak highly enough of the OnePlus3. It's smooth. It just flies between apps and any other phone could only, at most, equal it really. Go with your heart
I feel it's faster than my s7e in every day use
Hello, I am looking for new phone and 5x looks pretty good. I don't need ultra fast CPU for gaming. Just for fluent usage during the day, with a decent battery and good camera quality. Are you satisfied and would you recommend this phone? Does it have some software problems or bugs?
Thank you and sorry for my English
If it had 3 or 4 GB RAM then I wouldn't hesitate. As it stands, it's a little frustrating with multitasking at times. It's quite sporadic where sometimes it seems to hold 3 or 4 apps that you're using in memory without any trouble. Other times you use one app, switch to another, then switch back to the first app and it's gone. I would imagine with a 3GB phone that would not be an issue.
Performance in other ways is just fine without complaints. The Nougat update seems pretty good to me - no major bugs to report and battery life genuinely improved to make it acceptable.
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Hello, I am looking for new phone and 5x looks pretty good. I don't need ultra fast CPU for gaming. Just for fluent usage during the day, with a decent battery and good camera quality. Are you satisfied and would you recommend this phone? Does it have some software problems or bugs?
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Hello, I am using the nexus 5x for about 7 months now and I am totally satisfied with its performance.I use it mostly for internet(like chat, reading articles, watching videos) but never used it for games. In heavy games it will lag a little but for daily use it is very smooth.The processor is powerful enough for every use except heavy gaming. I tell you in bullets the pros and cons soo you can decide.
Pros:
- Great Camera: Best out there in this budget category and good enough in low light with LED Flash.
- Overall Speed and Smoothness: Google will give you the fastest android experience because of clean Android ROM.
- Updates Until September 2017: Which probably means you will get Android O (8.0) (Nexus 5x was the first phone that had Android Nougat 7.0 installed. And security updates until September 2018. Google will also update all your system apps like phone messages contacts and other so it adds functionality by the time whick is also great.
Cons:
- Battery stamina: It is not quite the best, more like average I would say. I get about 3-4 Hours of Screen on Time. If you use it with 4g it can barely stand out for a day. If you make medium usage you can have 2 days max.
- It gets a little hot quite easy: Especially on summer the phone will heat up really quick if you are on Internet about 5minutes but it won't be a problem cause its stable. The phone will become a little slower in order to low its temperature.
- Wouldn't be bad if it had 3GB of RAM for better multitasking. With 2GB you can have about 3 apps in memory.
Overall: I would say it's a good choice for its money, especially now that you can buy it for almost half the price it had when released.
Thank you guys for your answers. I will probably buy it
Given how expensive the just announced Pixels are going to be I would grab a 5X 32G while you can. I'd expect them to be $250USD or less new while you can get new ones. The Pixel's start at $649USD. I plan to use my 5X as long as possible or until I see a significant drop on the Pixel. Not sure if that will happen since it appears Google now believes that they need to convince buyers that phones have to be ridiculously expensive to be considered good.
You can still get them from Google but only through the project Fi page https://fi.google.com/about/phones/ Not sure if Fi is available where you are or not but if it is it can be a great way to go.
I was in the same boat, I didn't mind the price of the new Pixels but IMHO it smells of them going down the Nexus road then deciding to pivot to Pixel. But not having enough time to work with an ODM (like they do with their own servers and switches) and had to go with HTC (since they would be more willing to sell them a version of their phones un-branded). So I'm not a fan of the huge bezels or some of the other missing features. I will wait until next year when they can really design the phone from the ground up and it will be the real Google Pixel. I almost went with Motorola/Lenovo but the unfortunate decisions they have made lately has really turned me off of them. So I was looking for a phone that would last me at least one year and I ran into an great deal on a NIB 32gb 5X so I snapped it up (just got it yesterday).
Yes it's not the best battery life but I lived with a Nexus 5's less then stellar battery life and that was one of my favorite phones. So far I'm very impressed, it's more then good enough and the issues are relatively minor. Very happy with it so far.
I have the Pixel C right now and been using it for the best part of a year and a half and it has been quite good, very smooth interface and probably not as silky as the Pixel phone but light-years better than my old Nexus 9.
Question is, as good as it has been, a few things are bugging me now. First is the age; it is almost 2 years old now and while it has been getting updated rather quickly the latest Oreo update seems to be stretching the limits of the aging hardware, because I've seen no absence of lags and stuttering on Oreo that weren't as noticeable or pronounced as it was on Nougat 7.1.2. In fact these performance hitches are enough for me to consider wiping all my important (but not too important, just a few apps and games) data and downgrade back to stock 7.1.2, since the YouTube app is just horrendous on Oreo, but I haven't gone around to it yet.
The more important thing is the Tab S3. The Android tablet market is all but dead with nothing but crappy budget devices released but the S3 seems to be a major contender for the best Android tablet, and I can see why. It does have a crap 2016 processor (given the release date of March 2017 you'd expect it to have at least 821 or 835, or better yet, a more optimized Exynos 8890 or 8895), but it still handily beats the clock speed (2.15 vs 1.9) of the X1 chip in the Pixel C and RAM (4 vs 3). But given the Pixel C's obvious advantage with the absence of any memory-hogging skin, I am having doubts on upgrading because of hardware. Speaking of which the S3 also has the quad-speaker advantage and the HDR capable AMOLED panel, not to mention the glorious S-Pen. So given all these clear advantages the S3 has over the Pixel C, is it worth the "up"grade? Or is the S3 just another crap tablet with a bunch of gimmicks like the S2 and still packed with all the useless junk that Samsung tends to cram into their devices?
Note that I use my tablet for purely entertainment purposes, I don't have the keyboard and I just use my Pixel C for videos, games, and web browsing (I reserve productivity for an actual Laptop). I generally value performance over everything else as a result.
pixel c has more rom and kernel development and it is very smooth and perfect for gaming thanks android stock and lineage based roms
tab s3 has touchwiz and as we know touchiz lags and has performance issue
it would be a best if google release a new tablet
but for now pixel c is best android tablet ( the display doesnt have hdr but is a quadhd ltps very good display)
And you'll get quicker updates than the S3. Samsung are woeful at updating their devices.
My nexus 9 crapped out and needed a new tablet and got the S3. I looked at the pixel c but since it's 2 years old ruled that out. You're right, there is no good android tablet now. The s3 is good but it's just a tablet. Nothing special. I haven't even rooted it yet because of the stupid knox and voiding the warranty if I trip it. I have no idea when it'll get oreo. My nexus 5x is running it now and it'll probably won't be until next year that samsung finally releases it. The samsung bloat is not that bad and most of it you can disable.
There's basically no development on it and very little activity in the forum. So if you're into that don't expect much.
If I had the pixel I'd wait and see if something else comes out, preferably from google. But I don't know how likely that is.
There's actually a good tablet on the market, but it's small. It's the Huawei mediapad M3 with kirin 930 and 4 gigs of ram. I tried it for two weeks and absolutely loved it; amazingly fast and fluid, super lightweight and a gorgeous hi-res screen. In the end I sent it back because the long 8.4" screen, resolution is superb but you have to hold it so close to your face because it's too small.
So it's no alternative to the pixel C but its fast and high end. I have hopes that Huawei will decide one day to make a 9.7 inch version, I would buy it immediately.
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There's actually a good tablet on the market, but it's small. It's the Huawei mediapad M3 with kirin 930 and 4 gigs of ram. I tried it for two weeks and absolutely loved it; amazingly fast and fluid, super lightweight and a gorgeous hi-res screen. In the end I sent it back because the long 8.4" screen, resolution is superb but you have to hold it so close to your face because it's too small.
So it's no alternative to the pixel C but its fast and high end. I have hopes that Huawei will decide one day to make a 9.7 inch version, I would buy it immediately.
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I thought the mediapad m3 used the kirin 950? it's hard to find out what's going on with the specs. The 32G model comes with 3G ram and the 64G with 4g ram. Where I live so far I only found the 32/3 model. I also would like the larger screen size... I have a Tab S2 and it's pretty good. There is no lag from touchwiz. I use Nova launcher anyway and it's lightning fast. And I get OTA updates on Nougat. Not every month but they are updating it. No complaints whatsoever.
So I am also trying to decide whether to go with the mediapad M3 (the T3 looks like a serious downgrade from every angle) or the Tab S3. There is a new google Pixel isn't there? But I guess it's like 1,000 dollars and probably not worth it.
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I thought the mediapad m3 used the kirin 950? it's hard to find out what's going on with the specs. The 32G model comes with 3G ram and the 64G with 4g ram. Where I live so far I only found the 32/3 model. I also would like the larger screen size... I have a Tab S2 and it's pretty good. There is no lag from touchwiz. I use Nova launcher anyway and it's lightning fast.
So I am also trying to decide whether to go with the mediapad M3 (the T3 looks like a serious downgrade from every angle) or the Tab S3. There is a new google Pixel isn't there? But I guess it's like 1,000 dollars and probably not worth it.
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You are right it's the kirin 950. I tried the model with 4 Gb ram and its unbelievably fast and snappy.
Much more so than the pixel C that I finally bought.
The screen of the M3 is seriously small though, 8.4 inches diagonally which sounds ok but it's really narrow. Feels like you're just looking at a large phone.
That's why I decided in the end to keep the pixel C instead, even though it's older, slower and lacks a fingerprint scanner.
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You are right it's the kirin 950. I tried the model with 4 Gb ram and its unbelievably fast and snappy.
Much more so than the pixel C that I finally bought.
The screen of the M3 is seriously small though, 8.4 inches diagonally which sounds ok but it's really narrow. Feels like you're just looking at a large phone.
That's why I decided in the end to keep the pixel C instead, even though it's older, slower and lacks a fingerprint scanner.
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Yeah I agree. The 8 inchers are dangerously close to an S7 Edge in size and how they feel and look. I may go for it anyway if I can find the 64G model. If not I'll probably buy the Tab S3 since I'm happy with the S2. I think the extra 1G of RAM will be worth it. Samsung has some nice addons over stock 'droid and almost completely non-bloaty.
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Is nougat OTA available for the m3 btw?
I just purchased an S3 and I'm comparing it side-by-side with my Pixel C.
It's too soon to compare battery life, although I don't expect the S3 to last quite as long. The Pixel C lasts forever.
But so far I see a number of advantages on the S3.
- SD card (not that I care)
- S-Pen (not really my thing either, but great for Pictionary with a Chromecast)
- Fingerprint sensor
- Vibration
- GPS
- Slightly faster, but not night and day.
- Slightly more vibrant screen. It's capable of being more saturated with certain settings but only if you want to go blind. With tolerable settings the difference is minor.
- Camera flash. Everyone makes fun of tablet cameras but they forget about scanning documents. It's hard to do without casting a shadow.
- No 30-second delay when it's unlocked
- Easier to download drivers. I can't do ADB with my Pixel unless I find a Windows 7 computer.
Pixel C advantages
- slightly larger screen, although at these sizes it doesn't matter much
- higher resolution - again, side-by-side it doesn't jump out at me.
- Less customized, so it works like I'm used to
- Custom ROMs
- On-screen buttons that always rotate to the bottom of the screen
I think there will eventually be some ROM development for the S3. But if not, perhaps Oreo will let me apply some themes.
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I just purchased an S3 and I'm comparing it side-by-side with my Pixel C.
It's too soon to compare battery life, although I don't expect the S3 to last quite as long. The Pixel C lasts forever.
But so far I see a number of advantages on the S3.
- SD card (not that I care)
- S-Pen (not really my thing either, but great for Pictionary with a Chromecast)
- Fingerprint sensor
- Vibration
- GPS
- Slightly faster, but not night and day.
- Slightly more vibrant screen. It's capable of being more saturated with certain settings but only if you want to go blind. With tolerable settings the difference is minor.
- Camera flash. Everyone makes fun of tablet cameras but they forget about scanning documents. It's hard to do without casting a shadow.
- No 30-second delay when it's unlocked
- Easier to download drivers. I can't do ADB with my Pixel unless I find a Windows 7 computer..
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I don't see how screwgle can sell devices without an SD card. That's just insane. S2 doesn't have vibrate, cool to hear the S3 does. I wish the S2/S3 had a notification LED. Not having that is stupid. Yeah the screens on the Galaxy S2/3 are the cat's meow. Really great color and clarity. Battery life on my S2 is just meh. Used to be better, now it seems not to last very long. I noticed some charging issues with one of the Nougat updates. I blame software for this.
I like the Samsung addons and you get some freebies with it like 100G of Onedrive, MyKnox/Secure folder, and a cloud that isn't screwgle. Good encryption options for the device and SD cards. Not bloaty and runs great with Nova. Did not like the stock launcher. Nova is the first thing that goes on any Android device.
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Pixel C advantages
- slightly larger screen, although at these sizes it doesn't matter much
- higher resolution - again, side-by-side it doesn't jump out at me.
- Less customized, so it works like I'm used to
- Custom ROMs
- On-screen buttons that always rotate to the bottom of the screen
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Of all that nothing seems important except for the ROMs and the buttons. I hate that the Samsung hardware buttons are friggin unusable in landscape. Dumb!
I guess the S3 is the best big screen tablet right now and maybe the Mediapad M3 is the best 8 incher. They can put 6 or 8G of RAM in a phone, why not a tablet? And bring back Exynos 8 bangers and leave the Qualcomms in phones where they belong
If I have one big gripe about the Samsung buttons it's that in addition to being where they aren't expected, they aren't lit. You have to learn where they are.
But today I picked up my Pixel C and i was looking for the Samsung buttons even though the onscreen ones were plainly visible.
The S3 battery has done reasonably well.
But it's the strangest thing that matters. As soon as I typed on the Pixel I missed the vibration. I have it set really low - 4ms - but it just makes typing feel more like typing.
Oh, I meant vibrate for notification. I turn vibe off on all Samsung devices because it can cause keyboard lag. I suck at typing though.
If you don't care about the s-pen, pixel C is still a better device especially for gaming. Look at some benchmarks, Nvidia's X1 process in pixel C is much better than Tab S3. I'd hold on to the Pixel C for now. There is no good android tablet on the market at the moment.
no absence of lags and stuttering on Oreo
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My Pixel c was terrible straight after the Oreo update, so laggy and slow. A factory reset followed by a restore from backup sorted it out and I've not seen any lags or stuttering since. It might be worth trying this before downgrading the firmware.
I made sure I wiped System Cache after I updated to Oreo. No issues at all for me.
Anyone here going for the OnePlus 6?
If it supported Verizon...I would no doubt. But, no such luck this time around either.
No! Going to keep my badboy Pixel XL 2!!
Hell no! I've got enough data mining in my life already! ?
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
NO!
No. OnePlus is an awful company.
No, im not going back to oneplus .
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
Question is why would i?
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Due to no dual sim support, I had to live with samsung. S9+ has better camera, beauty and display though battery life is worse compare to pixel 2 xl even with full hd+ we all know it is due to bloatware services/apps.
Heard rumours that Apple is also considering dual sim versions for next iPhone, hope google do consider dual sim versions.
By the way I did try huawei honor v10 and 20 pro. Unfortunately work profile issues and bad support made me avoid them completely.
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No. OnePlus is an awful company.
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and liars. I got OP5 and returned, because camera was terrible, but they talked about "clearer photos". They lied in performance test.....for me they bad reputation company
FrankBullitt said:
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
Had 3 devices from OP so far (OPO, OP5 and OP5T) and still use them but not going to get another one anymore. Why? Because Pixel devices is what suits me the best... top hardware with top software.
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Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
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The quoted post above is sponsored by OnePlus, where "Never Settle" is an oxymoron.
You mentioned us P2XL owners having blinders on when nothing could be further from the truth. While we may have unwanted press over non-issues such as blue shifting and color profiles, at least our devices were assembled with the screens pointed in the right direction, unlike the OP5T.
Ignoring the fact that people rarely view their devices at the extreme angles required for the blue shift to be noticeable, the phenomenon is inherent in ALL AMOLED displays. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Of the three the S4, having an early AMOLED screen, has blue shift to a greater degree than either my Nexus 6 or my P2XL.
The only reason blue shift and the color profile were even mentioned is to drive page views. As for the color profile non-issue, I use the original color profile and not the boosted or saturated modes. No problems here, and in fact I enjoy the color accuracy.
OnePlus having a FHD screen is not a problem if you're not used to anything else. But a flagship device has a QHD display, period. What OnePlus has done here is what they have always done: compromise. When they stop, perhaps then we'll take notice.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
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Yes, my comments have no ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...soon_discontinuing_development_i_wont/dyi9wh0
It's not just the camera; everything on the Pixel 2 is way, way more polished than anything that OnePlus (and I on my own) could ever make.
As much as I hate to admit it, my custom ROMs can't touch the stock ROM on the Pixel 2 in terms of polish and performance. Lately I've been doing more scientific performance assessments on Android (for the sake of research with a professor at my university), instead of just using the phone and thinking, "Seems good to me!," and the results I pulled off the Pixel 2 absolutely crush the results I pulled from stock LineageOS 15.1 on the 3T. It is very difficult to get frame drops while playing with the Pixel 2, whereas I instantly recorded frame drops galore on the 3T. This has been a bit of a wakeup call to me in that I need to reevaluate my ideology and follow a more scientific strategy in optimizing Android on a phone (i.e., using the dozens of test suites Google has built for Android). The bugs that bother users the most are the ones that tend to happen a small percentage of the time (like random reboots), and the Pixel 2 has clearly been optimized to the point where most of those rare bugs are nonexistent (e.g., frames are rarely dropped).
When I ran one of Google's UI performance test apps on the Pixel 2 against my LineageOS 14.1 ROM on the 3T, my ROM dropped frames nonstop (according to this tool) while the Pixel 2 dropped zero frames...
Deep down, I'm a kernel developer and that's where I excel. I'd rather stick to what I know (and enjoy) with kernel hacking and leave the pain of polishing userspace to Google's army of engineers.
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You were saying something about oneplus, weren't you?
I owned oneplus phones, I owned Nexus, I own a Pixel2XL. Tell me about daily performance again, please.
Only reason I'm asking is because I am curious after watching MKBHD complain about the phone slowing down. In my opinion, I don't feel like there has been any problems. ?
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Only reason I'm asking is because I am curious after watching MKBHD complain about the phone slowing down. In my opinion, I don't feel like there has been any problems. ?
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We are flashers, so will not keep phone without wiping for more than couple of months.. may be long term users might have slow down issues...
A few points:
1. Everything is relative.
Maybe the One Plus 6 is just so fast that the Pixel 2 XL feels slow?
I doubt it, but I also carry an Iphone 7 and that seems extremely slow compared to my Pixel 2 XL.
2. Software mods
MKHBD doesn't do much modding afaik, so he is also limited to the default software most of the time leaving often much to be desired.
One Plus uses a lot of time on software optimization also.
All said and done, I still think to say Pixel 2 XL is laggy or slow is borderline ridiculous at the moment.
I think he means it stutters alot more than the OnePlus 6, which makes sense. The OnePlus has a more powerful chip and much more ram.
I've only noticed dropped frames when I was using the Android p beta 2 , I could see the slowdowns, but with the latest update it has been nothing but butter.
There is some slow down.
Well to be honest my pixel 2xl hasn't slowed down completely but i do see stutters and lags while opening up camera and while switching between apps while multitasking. Im on stock 8.1 oreo and the only reason I'm not rooting it yet is coz I'm one of the unfortunate people who are stuck with bootloader locked Verizon pixel 2xls. And from my past experiences custom roms are more snappier than the stock ones.
I have a hard time believing that the P2XL stutters and drops more frames than the OP6. Looking at XDA's op6 performance and gaming review, it is clear that it has more jank and frame drops compared to the pixel. One thing that the oneplus 6 does outclass the pixel in is animation speed and all around snappiness. The way I have always seen it is oneplus devices are faster, but the pixel and pixel 2 are smoother. Imo, I'd prefer to have the smoothest phone than the fastest phone. That being said, the one slow down that I see on a daily basis is a delay between after I tap the home button and before the app close animation begins. Essentially there is a delay when closing apps. This does not happen in every app, usually apps that are either poorly optimized (snapchat) or apps that have a lot going on (chrome). Chrome and snapchat are the main apps that have this problem of taking longer than usual to close.
I thought some of the issues with Android Phone DP4 were that it introduced stutters and lag. At least, that's how it's been with mine. Another thing, though I don't think it's exclusive to the Pixel 2 is that whenever I put it to charge, or take it off Airplane Mode, for a minute or so, the phone becomes extremely laggy and unresponsive.
Mine is running great, smoother than my s9 plus
mine is speedy
only other phone rival it is when i put aosp on my s9+
I feel like there has been hiccups more often the first few months with the phone but I am on DP5. I plan on doing a factory restore when Android P stable gets released which is currently rumored to be August 20th. I usually do it at my one year with a phone anyway.
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Sort of yes,... But then again isn't it expected now that the Pixel 3 is around the corner?
We people complain about anything when ever the chance happen.. its just great phone few lagging doesn't bother. To be honest mine is just perfect
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I feel like there has been hiccups more often the first few months with the phone but I am on DP5. I plan on doing a factory restore when Android P stable gets released which is currently rumored to be August 20th. I usually do it at my one year with a phone anyway.
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Planning on do the same thing. Pretty excited for Android P!
JazonX said:
Sort of yes,... But then again isn't it expected now that the Pixel 3 is around the corner?
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Well it's less than a year old and costs a lot of money so I don't expect it to slow down just yet. ??
Overall I don't feel my phone slowed down, but I agree with MKDHD that apps are reload frequently.
fearfighters said:
Well it's less than a year old and costs a lot of money so I don't expect it to slow down just yet.
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I didn't expect it either. Came from Samsung, and this was quite a surprise to me too!
But then again, Apple does it... and now they're a company worth 1 Trillion US Dollars.
It's not that hard to guess where the others will look for inspiration now.
I just feel oneplus bought mkbhd out.. it honestly sounded like a sponsored rant. With oneplus now tweeting about that video and mkbhd 'verifying' it. Just seems too staged
Honestly if he had only mentioned about the app reload which everyone will agree who uses more apps then definitely no doubt there is a difference between 4gb and 6gb ram, but he was using android P beta so you cannot be judging it but when he said in another device it got slow running oreo then i really can't belive it and the thing he was complaining about animation lol OP animations are different and the speed as well
This would be the same case with IPhone x getting slow because of the animation
The first ever video of Mkbhd i disliked
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haven't experienced any slowdown tbh
Camera app definitely stutters more!!