Recommendations on new PX6 Head Units - MTCD Android Head Units General

I have a Zestech Head Unit ZT-A11734 which is constantly crashing.
I have read through the update MTCE/MCU procedures, however this unit has soft buttons and the first step reset procedure didn't work. So to perform the second method reset technique I have to remove the head unit from the car, and that just becomes a pain in the @ss.
If I am doing that I will just replace the head unit and save much stress and time.
Which brings me to the question I would like to ask: is there a supplier that you guys have found to provide good support and even better products???
I am installing the unit into my daughters 2008 Toyota Corolla Hatchback
I am thinking along the lines of the PX6 units with octa core, as I like to sort of future proof my purchases for a few years.
Is there a brand that seems more reliable than the next brand, better support etc?
A reliable unit would the ideal outcome.
I have used Navirider from Alibaba express for my other daughters car and they have been very helpful with a successful install and use.
But thought I should ask the experts before wasting any more money on a dud unit.....
thanks for any suggestions

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Watchout Erisin aftersales

Be careful when you buy to this manufacturer because I bought more than 4 units and they don't help when 1 unit is defective, only way is to pay shipping back to china when you buy unit from UK warehouse and solution is much easier, send only defective spare part, because I am not willing to pay anything when product is within warranty, and the time I will be without using it.
So they only care about sell, cheap and poor quality devices and later after send few e-mail, they stop answering.
There are other better manufacturers for good car head units so... STAY AWAY FROM THIS BRAND ERISIN!!!!
yeah agree..
worst quality units i have seen so far
what was wrong with your unit?
numind said:
Be careful when you buy to this manufacturer because I bought more than 4 units and they don't help when 1 unit is defective, only way is to pay shipping back to china when you buy unit from UK warehouse and solution is much easier, send only defective spare part, because I am not willing to pay anything when product is within warranty, and the time I will be without using it.
So they only care about sell, cheap and poor quality devices and later after send few e-mail, they stop answering.
There are other better manufacturers for good car head units so... STAY AWAY FROM THIS BRAND ERISIN!!!!
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Nomader0 said:
yeah agree..
worst quality units i have seen so far
what was wrong with your unit?
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Erisin are not a manufacturer they are just sellers - they buy from a variety of manufacturers and then sell them on, they know very little about what they sell and are only useful for the occasional firmware release. If you buy from ebay or with Paypal you should be covered though.
To find out who manufacturers your units go to settings/about device, the 3 or 4 letters after "MTCD" will tell you.
The devices have a few bugs but are not poor quality and the bugs can be sorted with help from fellow XDA users.
What problems were you having ? Its very likely that they can easily be sorted.
mate stop telling people what to say it is not polite, specially when you are not 100% sure of what you say
erisin=KLG
they are not sellers, i am 90% sure of that
the units are very low quality. Bluetooth and wifi problems (can't use both at the same time) , and touch screen problems
these are not software bugs that can be sorted. they are hardware
i have had 3 units so i am quite knowledgeable about them, KLG units are just the poorest quality of all
Nomader0 said:
mate stop telling people what to say it is not polite, specially when you are not 100% sure of what you say
erisin=KLG
they are not sellers, i am 90% sure of that
the units are very low quality. Bluetooth and wifi problems (can't use both at the same time) , and touch screen problems
these are not software bugs that can be sorted. they are hardware
i have had 3 units so i am quite knowledgeable about them, KLG units are just the poorest quality of all
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At NO POINT in my previous post did I "tell people what to say". What I did is give advice using my pretty extensive knowledge of these units and their manufacturers
Having dealt directly with several manufacturers of these units, sold some myself, owned around 6 units from different manufacturers and been active in the XDA forums about them for 3 years, I know EXACTLY what I m talking about, I was offering you and @numind help and advice, dont take it if you dont want to, but I know what I m talking about when it comes to these devices as my thanks meter clearly shows.
Its long been established by myself and others on here that Erisin are sellers - I am 200% sure of that, so you are plain wrong when you say that they are not.
You dont have a "KLG" MCU because theres no such thing, what you probably mean is that you have a KGL MCU. If you have a KGL MCU then you have a device made by Shenzhen Kai Ge Le, but Erisin DOES NOT = KGL, Erisin sell units from several different manufacturers, not just KGL and other sellers also sell KGL devices. Indeed I just bought an MTCD unit from Erisin and it has a GS MCU, GS is a different manufacturer - the letters after "MTCD" denote who manufactures your unit, GS are an entirely different company from KGL.
I made no mention of software bugs, I said its highly likely that "any" bugs can be sorted out, both software AND hardware bugs can be sorted using advice on XDA.
If you havent had a unit made by anyone else other than KGL then I m not sure you can say that KGL devices are "the poorest quality of all", but nevertheless I certainly have heard of more problems with KGL devices than others, so I am inclined to agree with that, but the problems can be overcome.
In all my 3 years on the MTC forums I ve not heard about anyone not being able to use wifi and BT at the same time. Have you updated your MCU ? Have you changed anything in factory settings ? If so (I m guessing the answer is yes to both) then you may want to read @marchnz's Cross compatible MCU thread because he has found out that its possible to use other manufactures' MCUs on MTCD devices and this could sort your wifi/BT issues. Also lots of KGL MTCD devices use the Realtec rtl8723bu wifi/BT chip (as do 1000s of other devices the world over from Android head units to computers), it may be something to do with the antennas, KLD MTCD devices also use this chip and people have improved the reception by simply adding longer antenna wires. Maybe KGL have only connected one antenna (the rtl8723bu should have 2) and that is your problem ? In which case it could just be case of soldering on another. Maybe one or both have become detached, I ve heard of the earth lead for the radio tuners on MTCB KGL device becoming detached before. Have you opened the unit ?
I have heard of touchscreen problems before, its often centred around the connector, have you tried re-seating it ? Can you be more specific about your touchscreen "problems" ?
ok i do own 3 other units KLD, KSP and KGL
KGL is the lowest quality and i insist
the unit i have uses the same chip for BT and wifi and this causes interferance. when BT is connected the wifi is useless.. you can search the forum and you will find many posts about that.. my KSP and KLD do not (although they use the same chip for BT) but, i think it is not combined.
I soldered an external antenna but this did not help at all i itried all MCU's but that made no difference..any way it is the implementation of BT and wifi in these units that causes the interference problem on the 2.4Ghz freq. it will not be solved with any software update.
the most serious problem is the touch screen deffect.. the touch screen is a 9 inch, the center part of the touch overlay works ok but 2 cm around the screen the touchscreen has 3 dead zones parallel to the frame so when you draw for example the cursor jumps these dead zones.. any small button that exists on these dead zones is unclickable.
i tried removing the cable change it etc.. and this did not help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73370853&postcount=1432
this member has the same problem so it is not a coincidence..
i will probably return the unit and buy something else
i am really not sure who is the manufacturer and who is the seller anymore, and i don't really care.. you might be right i guess and i apologize for that.
Nomader0 said:
ok i do own 3 other units KLD, KSP and KGL
KGL is the lowest quality and i insist
the unit i have uses the same chip for BT and wifi and this causes interferance. when BT is connected the wifi is useless.. you can search the forum and you will find many posts about that.. my KSP and KLD do not (although they use the same chip for BT) but, i think it is not combined.
I soldered an external antenna but this did not help at all i itried all MCU's but that made no difference..any way it is the implementation of BT and wifi in these units that causes the interference problem on the 2.4Ghz freq. it will not be solved with any software update.
the most serious problem is the touch screen deffect.. the touch screen is a 9 inch, the center part of the touch overlay works ok but 2 cm around the screen the touchscreen has 3 dead zones parallel to the frame so when you draw for example the cursor jumps these dead zones.. any small button that exists on these dead zones is unclickable.
i tried removing the cable change it etc.. and this did not help.
i created this post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...velopment/kgl-wifi-bluetoothproblems-t3654653
and another member seems to have the same problem so it is not a coincidence..
i will probably return the unit and buy something else
i am really not sure who is the manufacturer and who is the seller anymore, and i don't really care.. you might be right i guess and i apologize for that.
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OK, we agree about KGL being the poorest of these units then.
It could indeed be down to the mobo and the way KGL designed it, but @marchnz has only recently found out that a lot of MTCD units can actually be made to use other MCU types (unlike MTCB/C units) so it really could be worth you reading his thread as it could help, maybe a KLD MCU for instance, could sort it out ? Its worth trying. And did you have one or two antennas ? You said "I soldered an external antenna" suggesting just one. This could be important as its both a BT and wifi chip.
Does the screen work if you attach a mouse (not that it would help much when driving, although an air mouse might, I guess thats not the point though) ?
I have read of other users buying new screens, have you looked on Aliexpress ?
One of my 9" units has at least a (very annoying) 1 cm gap between the digitiser and the screen, just out of interest does your KGL ?
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OK, we agree about KGL being the poorest of these units then.
It could indeed be down to the mobo and the way KGL designed it, but @marchnz has only recently found out that a lot of MTCD units can actually be made to use other MCU types (unlike MTCB/C units) so it really could be worth you reading his thread as it could help, maybe a KLD MCU for instance, could sort it out ? Its worth trying.
Does the screen work if you attach a mouse (not that it would help much when driving, although an air mouse might, I guess thats not the point though) ?
I have read of other users buying new screens, have you looked on Aliexpress ?
One of my 9" units has at least a (very annoying) 1 cm gap between the digitiser and the screen, just out of interest does your KGL ?
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i might try another MCU i guess as you proposed.. it is the only thing i haven't tried..
by gap you mean a physical gap? void? nothing? ? no my unit does not have that kind of gap.. this is my unit
Nomader0 said:
ok i do own 3 other units KLD, KSP and KGL
KGL is the lowest quality and i insist
the unit i have uses the same chip for BT and wifi and this causes interferance. when BT is connected the wifi is useless.. you can search the forum and you will find many posts about that.. my KSP and KLD do not (although they use the same chip for BT) but, i think it is not combined.
I soldered an external antenna but this did not help at all i itried all MCU's but that made no difference..any way it is the implementation of BT and wifi in these units that causes the interference problem on the 2.4Ghz freq. it will not be solved with any software update.
the most serious problem is the touch screen deffect.. the touch screen is a 9 inch, the center part of the touch overlay works ok but 2 cm around the screen the touchscreen has 3 dead zones parallel to the frame so when you draw for example the cursor jumps these dead zones.. any small button that exists on these dead zones is unclickable.
i tried removing the cable change it etc.. and this did not help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73370853&postcount=1432
this member has the same problem so it is not a coincidence..
i will probably return the unit and buy something else
i am really not sure who is the manufacturer and who is the seller anymore, and i don't really care.. you might be right i guess and i apologize for that.
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Almost all px5 units are suffering the bad wifi reception and/or speed.
The closer the wifi source is...the smaller is the issue.
Most of people are using the wifi units by means of wifi tethering from their phones....which is a very close source to the antenna (which is my case)
When arriving home it detects my home's wifi but speed ia very low (when my phone dpes not lack of any speed connected at the same time and from he same place - the car)
So...all we are having similar problems (which can be affected by interference) but specific units are unusable even having the source close to the headunit.
As the software is the same for all px5 units (including the kernel which recently has been updated on the August 3rd ROM published by dasaita) the problem is on the board
We should all open the units and check how our units arw assembled and compare with the ones that are correctly working
The bad quality of soldering on antennas could be the cause of yoir issues...
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i have some electronics knowledge.. BT and Wifi both use 2.4ghz so the interfere more or less
this problem occurs in many HTC and Samsung mobile phones also.. and also occurs in most MTCD devices BUT.. the wifi signal is still usable. In my situation playstore fails to even connect, speedtest does not even find a server.. so it is the implemantation.
this device has 2 antennas, one for BT (a cable really) and another for WIFI (another cable).. but it is the chip itself that has the issue.. in my other KSP unit there is interferance and the wifi does slow down but it is not killed like the KGL. I do think the KSP has a separate BT and WIFI chip.. although both state MD725 for the BT in factory settings..
anyway i just tried HA and GS mcu's but the don't help for the touch screen issue.. so it might be a defective digitizer i guess
Nomader0 said:
i have some electronics knowledge.. BT and Wifi both use 2.4ghz so the interfere more or less
this problem occurs in many HTC and Samsung mobile phones also.. and also occurs in most MTCD devices BUT.. the wifi signal is still usable. In my situation playstore fails to even connect, speedtest does not even find a server.. so it is the implemantation.
this device has 2 antennas, one for BT (a cable really) and another for WIFI (another cable).. but it is the chip itself that has the issue.. in my other KSP unit there is interferance and the wifi does slow down but it is not killed like the KGL. I do think the KSP has a separate BT and WIFI chip.. although both state MD725 for the BT in factory settings..
anyway i just tried HA and GS mcu's but the don't help for the touch screen issue.. so it might be a defective digitizer i guess
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New motherboard from Dasaita is built by two different chip modules for wifi and bt.
What's is strange is that he new WiFi module is not dual and it seems to be very old
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ikerg said:
Almost all px5 units are suffering the bad wifi reception and/or speed.
The closer the wifi source is...the smaller is the issue.
Most of people are using the wifi units by means of wifi tethering from their phones....which is a very close source to the antenna (which is my case)
When arriving home it detects my home's wifi but speed ia very low (when my phone dpes not lack of any speed connected at the same time and from he same place - the car)
So...all we are having similar problems (which can be affected by interference) but specific units are unusable even having the source close to the headunit.
As the software is the same for all px5 units (including the kernel which recently has been updated on the August 3rd ROM published by dasaita) the problem is on the board
We should all open the units and check how our units arw assembled and compare with the ones that are correctly working
The bad quality of soldering on antennas could be the cause of yoir issues...
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If its only affecting RK3368/PX5 units then its deffo a software problem related to the SoM.
Nomader0 said:
i have some electronics knowledge.. BT and Wifi both use 2.4ghz so the interfere more or less
this problem occurs in many HTC and Samsung mobile phones also.. and also occurs in most MTCD devices BUT.. the wifi signal is still usable. In my situation playstore fails to even connect, speedtest does not even find a server.. so it is the implemantation.
this device has 2 antennas, one for BT (a cable really) and another for WIFI (another cable).. but it is the chip itself that has the issue.. in my other KSP unit there is interferance and the wifi does slow down but it is not killed like the KGL. I do think the KSP has a separate BT and WIFI chip.. although both state MD725 for the BT in factory settings..
anyway i just tried HA and GS mcu's but the don't help for the touch screen issue.. so it might be a defective digitizer i guess
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Nomader0 said:
i might try another MCU i guess as you proposed.. it is the only thing i haven't tried..
by gap you mean a physical gap? void? nothing? ? no my unit does not have that kind of gap.. this is my unit
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My KLD MTCD unit has holes for a BC6 BT (BT only) module, as used in MTCB/C devices and I have a spare one, I wonder if using that would improve things, leaving the Realtec just to do wifi duties, not sure how youd "tell" the MCU not to use the rtl for BT though.
On MTCB/C units a small heat sink makes the wifi much faster, some people with MTCB/C units also suffer from slow wifi when connected to a router and downloading large files (although I ve not experienced this), but MTCB/C units have separate wifi and BT chips. TBH though all antennas are "cables really" A tiny heat sink is worth trying and costs peanuts. MD725 means its the same rtl wifi/BT chip as KSP/KLDs.
Are all your units MTCD ? Cos if you have an RK3188/PX3 one you could swap the SoM and see if the problem improves/goes away with an RK3188/PX5 SoM, if it does then @ikerg is right and its a SoM/ROM software problem, not hardware, which would probably mean just waiting for updates or hoping a dev on here who knows their stuff can sort it.
Yes I did mean a void, I have two 9" units and one has this void, its weird, just wondered if yours did.
The point is that backlight is dead, only works volume knob led, so I asked to many Erisin contacts if this was a common failure and if they could send to me spare part and I fix it, but they just stop answering.
Also other fail I detected for new PX5 unit is about ignition output filter, there is a sound peak after run the ignition key, and with older PX3 this didnt happen...
Anyway you can't expect too much for these cheap units
numind said:
The point is that backlight is dead, only works volume knob led, so I asked to many Erisin contacts if this was a common failure and if they could send to me spare part and I fix it, but they just stop answering.
Also other fail I detected for new PX5 unit is about ignition output filter, there is a sound peak after run the ignition key, and with older PX3 this didnt happen...
Anyway you can't expect too much for these cheap units
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How did you pay for it, where did you buy it ?
by paypal I think, via website erisin (dot) com ES6698V
Open a case with PayPal
I think is only possible within 45 first days
Yeah, open a case.
numind said:
I think is only possible within 45 first days
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They changed it to 6 months.
Regarding these quality problems from Erisin crap, what would you think could be an option for replace the head unit? maybe Dasaita? some modle in the edge between price and quality, about 400usd...
All people should know about different brands, I would support a kind of satisfaction poll with positive and negative points.
numind said:
Regarding these quality problems from Erisin crap, what would you think could be an option for replace the head unit? maybe Dasaita? some modle in the edge between price and quality, about 400usd...
All people should know about different brands, I would support a kind of satisfaction poll with positive and negative points.
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All people should know about different brands, - different manufacturers.
The GS and HA units appear to be the better quality units. For the record, I have a JY and while it isnt bad, there are shorcuts. I have a GS board obtained as a spare part, it was with the GS board I was able to create a Jig to recovery bricked/corrupt PX5 NAND.
-M

Almost ready to buy, few final questions. Octocore PX5, 4GB, Oreo

A quick bit of background, I have recently sold my car that had a factory fit wince media centre fitted, and although locked down I miss the navigation and ease of use in my new car. The new car is actually a 10 year old Mazda MX5 NC (MK3) and currently has the stock radio which I'm thinking of upgrading.
I have figured I had 2 choices, either an all singing android unit, or a regular manufactures unit which supports Apple AirPlay. I figured that would still give me the basics of what I need, and probably with no potential for things to go wrong Anyway I like a challenge and the though of having more possible functionality I think is winning the argument for getting an android unit, but I have a few final questions from people in the know!
I have bene looking at a couple of units that look pretty similar spec wise (cornet me if I'm wrong) :-
Pumpkin AE0273B, XTRONS TE706PL. I was posting links to them but I'm not allowed yet So you will have to google for the exact details if needed.
So onto the questions :
1. I see a lot of the connectivity is via USB, and If I were to add several of the extras (E.g DAB+, 3/4G, DashCam, Phone) I would ned more USB ports than supplied (The XTRONS has 3, but the Pumpkin only 2). Can I just use a USB hub to get more ports like on a computer? If yes I'm assuming a powered one would be better as those accessories all need power.
2. I currently have a simple dash cam that just records video and audio in a loop onto an SD card all the time the ignition is on. Each file is about 2 mins long and I get about 4 hours recording before it starts to overwrite older files. This works great as I can forget about it and in 3 years, have never had to even look at the footage, and hopefully never will. But it gives peace of mind. I see you can get a USB one that I'm sure will have much better user interface if I want to play back footage. My existing camera has a phono out which I could connect to an AUX input to use the screen, but would still have the fiddly buttons to press on the camera behind my mirror.
Does the DVR app on the unit with the USB camera just crack on and record stuff in a similar I can forget about it way, and its just all there if I need it in the future. Or do I need to do something every time I turn the ignition on? Where does it record the footage, do I need to provide an additional SD card?
3. I see there are often 2 SD card slots, one marked for maps, the other presumably for music. Is there actually any difference, or are these just 2 mount points in the system that get used for anything? This question just came to me when thinking about the camera above. It wasn't actually on my list!
4. I'm worried that with a convertible car I'm not going to be able to see the screen due to the huge amount of ambient or even direct sun light. I have heard that there are anti-glare filters which could help a bit, but is this going to be a problem for me when it comes to navigating etc? Are the screens on the standard manufacture units (e.g. Pioneer etc) any better. In other words would I be better off sacrificing the cool stuff and getting a straight CarPlay unit that would be bright enough to see?
5. Lots os talk about rooting the device. What are the actual advantages of doing this? Are there some killer apps that make this a worth while exercise?
I appreciate its a long post and there are lots of questions, so a big thank you in advance for any of the questions you might be able to answer.
Regards
Ben
EDIT: forgot to mention — almost all units are identical to one another. They all have almost identical MTCD/MTCE MCU boards with the same audio/radio/wifi/Bluetooth chips (there are exceptions). And the main SoC is gonna be a PX5 with 4 GB of ram. So outside of that you want build quality (buttons, screen, plastic) and if it’s made to fit your car already.
First off, check out Joying units which have Carplay built in as well (and they have Octa core 4gb android 8.0 double din universal ones).
Next, yes you’d be able to use a USB hub and yes a powered one is best. Get one that works off of 12v and wire it in for a clean solution (so you always have a powered hub in your glove box for instance)
There are dash cams that the head unit manufacturers will sell you that you can leave plugged into your unit and they will auto record as you say. You basically don’t have to touch them, and just open the necessary app if you wanna change settings, or lock/save a file.
The 2 SD card slots are identical but one of them is meant to be always-in for GPS maps (for the Navi that the seller pre-loads sometimes). Also for firmware updates the GPS slot is the only one it boots from.
Glare depends heavily on the angle that your dash positions the screen at, so it’s hard to say. But yeah sometimes the sun hits it just right and there’s pretty much nothing you can do. Happens on oem units too.
Rooting isn’t super necessary but depending on how much you want to tinker it adds nice features like apps staying open after sleep, and the ability to customize the way everything looks. That said, there’s a lot in the way of customization that’s already available. Check malaysk’s custom ROM though. It’s pretty stable and the inclusion of viper4android alone is worth the hassle (in my opinion)
Hope this helps!
So it looks to me like there are 3 generic systems that have been badged up, one with a knob at the top, one with a knob at the bottom, and one without a knob.
The ones with the knobs seem to have the slightly newer TDA7851 amp chip, and the one with out uses the older TDA7850, which is a shame as I prefer the look of just buttons.
The Xtrons unit has a 3rd USB, which saves having to get a USB hub.
The Joying has the benefit of the built in ZLink, but as its software it does mean you loose that benefit if you use a different rom.
And there are various options on the back of the units, some have small wifi antenna built in, some have connectors for an external one.
It all make for lots of extra decisions!!
After getting Whitehouse support from Pumpkin, I would only buy Dasaita now. I just ordered a Dasaita PX5 4GB Oreo to replace my Pumpkin PX3 2GB.

Vehicle specific or double din w/ adapter?

I've been lurking around here for about a month now, just trying to figure out what would work best. I came across Android head units and this forum while searching for something with built-in offline GPS navigation and is compatible with Apple CarPlay but I've now become intrigued by installing apps to the head unit itself.
I'm pretty familiar with Android but head units running Android are quite new to me and I'm frankly a bit overwhelmed. I'm happy to do more reading here and elsewhere, but I have to say I find it very difficult to get much out of the massive threads. I've appreciated the Hui Fei wiki posts but I still feel like there's a bunch I don't know, specifically the pros and cons of the different types of units and where to buy them.
So from what I've been able to find, the best option right now, especially if I want to do any sort of customizing or upgrading down the road (rooting and swapping out processor boards) is to get an MTCE unit, so that's what I've been looking for. I believe the ideal unit is:
Android 8.0+
Octa-Core PX5 (I'm not sure I'm patient enough to wait for the PX6 to actually arrive in units)
2GB+ RAM (preferably 4GB)
32GB+ Storage
IPS Display
Steering wheel control support
I have a 7th Gen Honda Accord (2005) with dual zone automatic climate control. That feature in particular makes it a little more difficult to replace the stock head unit because the climate controls are integrated into it. My options are to get a aftermarket unit that has climate controls built in or to get a dash kit (like the Metra 99-7803) that handles the climate control and just has a double din slot.
My hesitation with a vehicle specific unit is that they seem to be poorly supported, and I can't find a decent US based reseller (I'm not very comfortable with the support and return policies of the sellers on AliExpress I've found so far). Also, it seems to be difficult to find out if a unit is actually a MTCD/E unit before buying it. The downside of a dash kit is that they basically add another $200-$300, the units have smaller displays or stick out a ways from the dash, and they don't look nearly as good.
Are there any limitations of vehicle specific units or generic units that I should be aware of? What would you recommend?

Dasaita Max6 PX6 4gb/64gb

Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
scythe000 said:
Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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those 10" units are known to have a space between the display and the actual touch, resulting in almost a 3D / depth-like effect of the stuff onscreen (when watched from an angle, which happens usually where the driver or passenger are looking at it, no one is looking straight perpendicular to the screen). Is this also the case with this unit?
Is it known under different names? I’d love to find a thread’s talking about software options. Anyway, I don’t really notice any kind of a 3-D effect, if you look at it from an extreme angle, it does look like there is a small gap, but I definitely don’t feel it when pressing on the glass. It’s a beautiful display, a lot nicer than I would have expected.
Bluetooth seems not working in the 20190428 update.
Tried update and clean install, neither Bluetooth worked. The rest so far so good.
WangYcca said:
Bluetooth seems not working in the 20190428 update.
Tried update and clean install, neither Bluetooth worked. The rest so far so good.
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Where are you finding the updates?
scythe000 said:
Is it known under different names? I’d love to find a thread’s talking about software options. Anyway, I don’t really notice any kind of a 3-D effect, if you look at it from an extreme angle, it does look like there is a small gap, but I definitely don’t feel it when pressing on the glass. It’s a beautiful display, a lot nicer than I would have expected.
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yes, the display is beautiful, very good contrast and color saturation.
i've seen one installed in a car few days ago, and the first thing i noticed (was sitting in the passenger seat) was the depth effect. This effect is not present in all other units 7", 8" or 9". You could see it more in the launcher main screen (it was an Ownice), less in FM radio app or mediaplayer, navi, etc...
another thing that i didn't like was that for my car i had to cancel the airbag warning connector since the unit comes with own mask and for VW/Skoda the mask that is used for 8 or 9" units has a airbag connector. The Ownice 10.2" did not. Also an issue is the huge screen at night with white background apps which even at lowest brightness they still blow your eyes off
I may buy the dsp version soon from ali express.
I need to find out if the mcu is an MTCE first, as hal9k will be developing his rom for px6 mtce, and i wouldnt be suprised if malaysk adds it too
mindriot said:
I may buy the dsp version soon from ali express.
I need to find out if the mcu is an MTCE first, as hal9k will be developing his rom for px6 mtce, and i wouldnt be suprised if malaysk adds it too
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Dasaita manufactures only mtce units
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zerozoneice said:
yes, the display is beautiful, very good contrast and color saturation.
i've seen one installed in a car few days ago, and the first thing i noticed (was sitting in the passenger seat) was the depth effect. This effect is not present in all other units 7", 8" or 9". You could see it more in the launcher main screen (it was an Ownice), less in FM radio app or mediaplayer, navi, etc...
another thing that i didn't like was that for my car i had to cancel the airbag warning connector since the unit comes with own mask and for VW/Skoda the mask that is used for 8 or 9" units has a airbag connector. The Ownice 10.2" did not. Also an issue is the huge screen at night with white background apps which even at lowest brightness they still blow your eyes off
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to clarify this, i suspect the ownice i saw had that 2.5D+nano screen, because my 10.2 dasaita has no depth issue whatsoever on its ips screen.
reg. airbag warning, it's just not visible, you need to take it out from the old cover together without unplugging it and just place it behind the screen. it won't give errors but it's not visible either...
zerozoneice said:
to clarify this, i suspect the ownice i saw had that 2.5D+nano screen, because my 10.2 dasaita has no depth issue whatsoever on its ips screen.
reg. airbag warning, it's just not visible, you need to take it out from the old cover together without unplugging it and just place it behind the screen. it won't give errors but it's not visible either...
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also no issues on my IPS screen either! Great unit for what it is. Of course there are little issues here and there like all units.
I rooted mine so I could freeze apps I don't need and really clean everything up
stokedcrf said:
also no issues on my IPS screen either! Great unit for what it is. Of course there are little issues here and there like all units.
I rooted mine so I could freeze apps I don't need and really clean everything up
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Do you have advices to root dasaita px6 ?
Thank you
Waiting infos on root aswell
What about fastboot? Can it do 2s boot? and sleep with <1mA low power?
Has anyone looked at (somehow) adding HD Radio?
My Rav4 HU has this and I've found it to be much better at receiving a signal (where I live anyway). I'm looking at a PX6 dasaita unit on Ali (also), but they all have the 6686 radio chip, where the 6688 radio chip has HD Radio included. I wonder if the 6688 couldn't be somehow retrofitted? Yes of course there would have to be pin compatibility etc, has anyone looked at that by chance?
I'm so tempted to just buy one and say scr*w the HD Radio... but sadly it's about the only thing I use the HU for! it would be hard to give that up as I almost always have the screen off
Cheers, they sure do look nice, would love to have one. Not sure if it would suit my needs though, when all said and done.
scythe000 said:
Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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Do you also have carplay wire/wireless chip on unit? did you see if that is able to charge your iphone with carplay on?
ALso have you driven longer than 2 hrs? with this unit ? I had PX5 and it used to reset over using it continuously for 2hr or more. and also PX5 was not charging iPhone while carplay was on.
If possible could any one update me on this?
pritamjagtap said:
Do you also have carplay wire/wireless chip on unit? did you see if that is able to charge your iphone with carplay on?
ALso have you driven longer than 2 hrs? with this unit ? I had PX5 and it used to reset over using it continuously for 2hr or more. and also PX5 was not charging iPhone while carplay was on.
If possible could any one update me on this?
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It does charge while doing CarPlay because it’s wireless so I just plug it into my charger. Works totally fine for hours on end. I’ve got an annoying bug with VLC thinking it doesn’t have delete permissions unless I manually grant it twice, but that’s unrelated. Also a bug with my iphones voice to text requires me to type a character first before it’ll pick up mic input, but I think it’s an iPhone issue.
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It does charge while doing CarPlay because it’s wireless so I just plug it into my charger. Works totally fine for hours on end. I’ve got an annoying bug with VLC thinking it doesn’t have delete permissions unless I manually grant it twice, but that’s unrelated. Also a bug with my iphones voice to text requires me to type a character first before it’ll pick up mic input, but I think it’s an iPhone issue.
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So far looks good then.
I do not find any description on link you got on amazon, specifying about wireless carplay, i tried contacting Iris he replied that there is option to get carplay wire/wireless on PX6. I ask him to send me link to product he is yet to reply.
Did you have to specify Dasaita to get you wireless carplay? or its just standard now?
pritamjagtap said:
So far looks good then.
I do not find any description on link you got on amazon, specifying about wireless carplay, i tried contacting Iris he replied that there is option to get carplay wire/wireless on PX6. I ask him to send me link to product he is yet to reply.
Did you have to specify Dasaita to get you wireless carplay? or its just standard now?
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I could be mistaken, but I think it's wireless. I hadn't asked for anything in particular, so it might be standard now.
I have dasaita - car play works on wire plus you have to have additional box/device ( can buy it in bundle with head unit). When iPhone connected through it - CarPlay works seamlessly and your phone is charging.
One more thing - you need to have application for CarPlay too.
Regards. k
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I could be mistaken, but I think it's wireless. I hadn't asked for anything in particular, so it might be standard now.
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Would you mind creating a video and share it over youtube? about carplay ? I am interested to see it.(& I believe most of us here wants to)
I have posted mine about blackout screen a while ago.
https://youtu.be/1qTh_JQggm8
https://youtu.be/1qTh_JQggm8

Mercedes ml350 (2006) with Harmon Kardin. All working but Steering wheel and CANBUS connection.

I just purchased a very cheap chinese android head unit from walmart.com (The price seems to have dropped even further, if it's the same one) and have it all installed in my ML350. I purchased, separately, an Optical Decoder box and have it also installed. I'm getting audio just fine (although of course it's just dropped to left and right..lost my full surround) but my steering wheel controls aren't working, nor is the CANBUS seeming to work. It's got a "Oudi" branded canbus decoder (Or at least the box is printed as one).
I don't see any Key1 or Key2, SWC or similar wires. The head unit is advertised as working with Steering wheel controls and canbus functions. From what I've read thus far, it's supposed to be able to communicate with canbus as is. It has 2 very long wires, Can-H and Can-L in addition to the ones that plugged into the harness..I don't think I had to do anything with them but I did see where someoene else having the same type ran them under the glove box to the long caterpillar like connection bar for Can-H and Can-L within the system. That didn't make any difference. I see some harnesses have a 2.5mm stereo jack to plug into the head unit also for steering controls but this doesn't have that etiher. Most seem to say that since the unit has steering learning that it all works through the canbus.
I've checked all pinouts and from what I can tell I've got them all correct. The can l and h were in wrong spots when I got it but got that fixed and at least the stereo is working.
Radio reception is less than spectacular, but it works. The stereo came with the adapter for that. My vehicle of course has that antenna amp on the back hatch under the window..always worked before. Also curious why this signal gets so back with that simple antenna adapter?
Anyhow, I'm overall happy with the unit (a bit slow at times, being a 1Gx16G model bug but handling that)
I've been in communication with the seller who keeps asking for videos, pics, and now wants me to purchase a new canbus at "any parts store" locally to try and they'll reimburse me. I dont' see anywhere that you can buy a canbus decoder anywhere locally.
I have such a hard time finding anyone with the same radio/wiring harness and this vehicle and can't understand why I'm having such issues with the installation SEEMS so simple. Yes I've gone into Protocol Settings in System settings and set to the "oudi" decoder. It only has 2 options. Mercedes-Smart, and Mercedes Fully Compatible. Neither works. It saves, doesn't require restart but I've tried rebooting as well. Even shutting off car when the radio is rebooting and starting it all together again.
Has anyone had any luck like choosing a different CANBUS? Like is it even worth going through them all? Surely the oudi box doesnt' have different hardware inside that might still work, but not be "oudi"?
I check data, etc I just get "no original vehicle setting function"
Did you ask the corresponding sellers about the matched CANBUS when you buy the android head unit? I've also been through this before, I purechased an aftermarket headunit from a Chinese brand called ATOTO, and I purchased their headunit for its affordable price, everything worked great, good connection to my phone, huge 10.1 inch screen display and good sound quality except the SWC interface. I have triple checked the connections and have tried two different Canbus interfaces that I have, and have tried both the key wires and the 3.5mm jack, the SWC interface simply doesn't work.
Then I contacted their support team and they also told me to buy a new canbus, and they told me to search on http://www.metraonline.com and https://pac-audio.com/, finally I got a new canbus and problem solved.
Hope this may help.
I have .. but they've been just.. run around after run around .asking for videos, pictures, wiring diagrams... Finally they say that it doesn't communicate with the Mercedes I this model....but ..it literally is custom bezeled for my model..comes with canbus decoder...states in the title of the item on walmart.com as for my particular video and that it keeps original steering wheel button function and all other factory features and canbus connection. So they're just lying to keep from having to send another canbus. Now just telling me to pack it up nicely and ship it back within 24 hours with tracking number to get refund. Heh.ill definitely check out your links tho! Thank you!
skybase said:
I have .. but they've been just.. run around after run around .asking for videos, pictures, wiring diagrams... Finally they say that it doesn't communicate with the Mercedes I this model....but ..it literally is custom bezeled for my model..comes with canbus decoder...states in the title of the item on walmart.com as for my particular video and that it keeps original steering wheel button function and all other factory features and canbus connection. So they're just lying to keep from having to send another canbus. Now just telling me to pack it up nicely and ship it back within 24 hours with tracking number to get refund. Heh.ill definitely check out your links tho! Thank you!
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I'm sorry for that bro! If the headunit you bought is an universal one then it should be compatible with most of the cars. Good luck and wish you can get this thing fixed soon!
WhiteSky0719 said:
I'm sorry for that bro! If the headunit you bought is an universal one then it should be compatible with most of the cars. Good luck and wish you can get this thing fixed soon!
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I find a kit (Best Buy has the same one I see, but it'll cost me $400 (at best buy) or over $600 on this site...for a $100 radio..damn..... haha weird thing though is that I don't think I have any SWC wires or 2.5mm jack or anything like that on the radio. Supposedly it worked through the Canbus...but...these kits all have that separate box as well. So....solution$$$ haha Thank you for this site though. It definitely reinforced for me the kit that I'm just gonna have to get. Plus side, I need this kit for ANY stereo I put in. Regardless if Android, no name or brand name standard deck.
skybase said:
I find a kit (Best Buy has the same one I see, but it'll cost me $400 (at best buy) or over $600 on this site...for a $100 radio..damn..... haha weird thing though is that I don't think I have any SWC wires or 2.5mm jack or anything like that on the radio. Supposedly it worked through the Canbus...but...these kits all have that separate box as well. So....solution$$$ haha Thank you for this site though. It definitely reinforced for me the kit that I'm just gonna have to get. Plus side, I need this kit for ANY stereo I put in. Regardless if Android, no name or brand name standard deck.
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Oh.... that's.... well you can also go check eBay, cheaper than most of shopping site, forget about the cheap **** it provides, the kits and hrness there should be cheaper. $400 is too much for a kit... If next time you need to upgrade another headunit, except Pioneer, Kenwood,etc. you can definitely go and try the brand atoto, although it is also a Chinese brand, happy with their serivice for now. Don't give up so soon bro! Try eBay again for the kits, lol.

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