Hiya xda!
I realize there is no Xperia Pro section people just post here about Pro with a {PRO} stub in the front so I hope it's alright..
So I just bought an Xperia Pro with prior knowledge that it is locked to Fido Canada. But I bought it anyways with the sole purpose of modding/hacking it. I currently have a HTC Desire Z that I'm using that was locked to Bell Canada. I debranded it, unlocked it, rooted and flashed CWM installed CM7 on it.
So if the next section is tl;dr, skip to the where the asterisks are I guess.
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So maybe I should give a little background about myself since this is like my first proper post. My first phone was a was a robust Siemens but it was black and white and I dropped it in the sea so let's just skip that. Then came my second phone which kicked off my modding life/career. It was a Motorola E398 (nostalgia.. I know right?). It was an awesome phone in which the speakers were so kickass that it's primary vibrator was the low bassy frequencies of the speaker. Anyways, it was awesome but being the son of an engineer and an avid DIY kind of guy I knew that I could make it more awesome.
It was released in 2004 but when my mom handed it down to me in 2005 I started my research and became active in the modding community. Basically I was trying to make this "dumb" phone that I had as "smart" as possible in the era when O2 just released the xda for which this community is now named after. (I developed this personality along the lines of "poverty is the mother of ingenuity" kind of thing. Not that my family was poor, but my parents deprived me of material when I was surrounded with "friends"/a**holes/classmates who swam in it like Scrooge Mcduck. I am so grateful now because I can do so much more than them at this stage now).
Since then my motto has been "The software doesn't matter because that can always change." (Of course it's all that matters but that's what I tell people who tell me not to buy HTC but Sony because it comes bundled with some panorama app..)
Then I got two Asus Windows Mobile hand-me-downs from my dad and I started to spend a lot of time here on xda devs learning the ropes and what not. Soon after my dad got tired of me "physically/hardware-ally" messing up the phones (I had to replace the resistive touch screen of my P535 twice and till this day it still has a cracked glass layer because I didn't replace it the third time).
But then I started college and I had the freedom to move up (starting from small beginnings). And that was when I got my second hand Bell Canada branded Desire Z. And that brings me to this day with a Fido locked Xperia Pro sitting next to me with the film still on it (It's second hand, but new, so probably an unwanted gift or something so I got it for a deal )
I realize that I've only mentioned some 4 or 5 phones here (there were some 2 or 3 filler phones that were too "dumb" to mod, I guess there was also my gramps I9000i which I fitted CM7 onto) and so my phone resume isn't that great but I guess I've to be proud with what I have under my belt so far. I'm 19 in 2012 so I've been modding some 8 years since I was 11.
So although I have spent a a lot time lurking the web and modding/hacking phones, notice that I never use the word "development" because to be honest I haven't done any. Up to this point I can follow/understand relatively complex instructions, including, but not limited to, how to debug over ADB and etc. But I'm still an undergraduate majoring in Mathematics B.S Computational Mathematics Option, all the while diligently going through my introductory C++ course.
I hope I haven't broken any "off-topic" rules in this self introductory section of mine.
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So as you can see I'm not professional or anything, so the first question I'd like to ask is why there seems to be so little third party community support for this phone.. It has been released for over a year now and the search bar still seems to be evading this one in favor for all the other 2011 Xperias. There isn't even an official section for this thing here nor is there official support for it from the CM community (I'm not asking for ETAs).
So getting down to the more technical stuff. I didn't spend a dime transforming my Bell Desire Z from the cave-man-phone that it was into this Terminator it is today. I found methods to sim unlock, debrand, root and everything all just using a mini USB cable connected to the computer. I assumed the same when I got the Pro but I guess I was mistaken? It seems that the only way to sim unlock it now is to use a code or SETools2.
So the main thing is, I know that SETools2 does a multi-unlock (network, bootloader and fastboot) but what if I did them all separately? What if I bought one of those standalone sim unlock codes and then followed instructions here to unlock the bootloader afterwards. Would that work permanently? Or are the codes just some non-permanent "patches".
The simlock seems to be the biggest obstacle right now. I've read all the stuff thereafter to get to my goal, CM9 (the bootloader unlocking, rooting and firmware flashing seems to be composed of instructions that I can follow)
But there also seem to be some new thingymabobs flying around. Like, there seems to be an optimum "baseband" version to work with but heck I don't know how it fits into the context of Pro..
Any help would be appreciated. I appreciate it even if you've merely skimmed my super long rant post
Thank You in advance.
Cheers!
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Holy s**t - you're just like me, going from a Bell HTC Desire Z (great phone btw) to a Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro. I personally switched to Fido because bell has poor indoor reception in the parts of Ottawa and Toronto that I frequent.
I too intended to mod the phone. I checked on the CM website that the device was officially supported before making my purchase. At the time, I was unaware there was such a thing as a locked bootloader (pardon my noobiness).
Even till now, I am 150% positive, it is impossible to unlock the bootloader. Sony and/or Rogers went out of their way to prevent bootloader unlocking for this phone.
Worse still, I couldn't even SIM-unlock the phone (buying a code from sites like cellunlocker.net) and I am fairly certain the new security MCUs are responsible for causing the code to be rejected!
I managed to swap the phone for an LG Optimus 2X with Fido. Unlocked the 2X by code, flashed CM7, waited forever for the European model to get ICS sources, now running official CM10
I'd suggest you try selling the phone or see if you can get an upgrade with Fido if you're on a contract (they have great discounts on last-gen high end models like the Galaxy Nexus and HTC One S).
It's f***ing ironic - Sony has been praised for supporting the Freexperia project and even giving binaries to help with AOSP rom development, yet any carrier-branded handset after 2012 can't be flashed with custom ROMs due to tightly locked bootloaders.
Moral of the story: if you buy an Xperia after 2012, make sure it's an unlocked and unbranded version as only those are guaranteed to have unlockable bootloaders. Even if you buy a carrier locked version and SIM unlock it with a code, it does jack s**t when it comes to the bootloader status.
I started with iPhone many moons ago, then transitioned to Android / Samsung back around the S3 days. Been with Sammy ever since, but they are starting to get like Apple in that they are VERY unfriendly to the mod community and they go to great lengths to stop it. They are also killing their phones with Bloatware.
I am toying with going to the G4 with my next upgrade (coming from Galaxy S5). Does LG tend to have a major security war with their users or are they a little more lax? Does rooting void their warranty like it does with Sammy?
Thanks in advance.
~Vol
All root voids warranty first of all, that's why many go back to stock when returning or getting a insurance replacement. Lg is by far one of the easiest phones to get root compared to Samsung even within an app as well. Go with lg, plus the software is by far simpler and not complicated like touchwiz
So LG hasn't pushed anything into their design like that stupid Knox hardware fuse from Sammy that can't be reset once tripped? I have my final choices narrowed down to the G4 or the HTC M8/M9. Since I've never had anything other than Sammy, I'm taking my time deciding here. I'll be stuck with whatever I choose for the next 2 year cycle.
I was a long time Samsung user. I've he Galaxy S2 through S4. I opted for the G3 over the S5 and don't regret it at all. I currently have an AT&T G4, and love it so far....just waiting for root!
If root and unlocked bootloader are essential, I'd wait to get the phone. LG has replied to several queries indicating that they won't be offering an officially unlocked bootloader for any model other than the 815 variant. I haven't seen anything indicating that they'll be fighting the users like Samsung does, but they're not precisely welcoming or accepting that we want to unlock and root our phones either. I'm sure the devs on xda will work around it, but there's no time frame as to when this will happen and it's not guaranteed.
That's helpful info. Root will definitely be essential as I have a car stereo interface app where it's required. Ugh. I hate technology decisions! There's never a black & white winner.
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That's helpful info. Root will definitely be essential as I have a car stereo interface app where it's required. Ugh. I hate technology decisions! There's never a black & white winner.
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Are you me?
Seriously, I got an H815 but it's a US model with locked bootloader and it's really a drag. I can't decide between this phone or my S5 with everything unlocked and a plethora of ROM options. The camera is soooo good :-\.
Get the g4 and be patient like the rest of us all. You can go and get the m9 but all up to you.
Vol4Ever said:
That's helpful info. Root will definitely be essential as I have a car stereo interface app where it's required. Ugh. I hate technology decisions! There's never a black & white winner.
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Sorry to go off topic.... tell us about your car stereo interface app that requires root - if you don't mind. Or you can simply PM me if nobody else is interested. Thanks!
Thanks for all the comments. I tried to thank everyone with the links, but the web site tells me I can only do 8 per day.
rfarrah - I have one of the new Pioneer NEX model radios. Pioneer puts out their own interface software, but it is horrid (and has been for years . . . . . . . never any improvements). I use AR Liberator which is awesome, but it has to have root to work. There is another popular third party app called AppRadio Unchained, but I've never messed with it since it costs freakin' $30! Maybe I'm just a cheapskate.
I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself but I have an upgrade coming soon for my contract and have been heavily researching all the phones out there at the moment. I really like the idea of the z5 premium with obviously the 4k display, the ip68 rating, and especially the microsd card slot. My one question is that, coming from my most recent phone, the Verizon Note 4, I was very dissappointed with the fact that I could not root the phone and could not utilize my favorite form of android, Stock, Pure Android.
So I guess my main question is, considering my lack of familiarity with Sony devices, I was wondering what the chances that I could ultimately root and install an "almost" stock ROM on the Z5 Premium were?
Well it is impossible to say this early but judging to earliel relases, root method has came everytime in less than 6 months to newest device. its basicly when someone invents root method to 5.1.1, its gonna be converted to xperia devices too soon. Ofc after that a little longer for carrier modded ROMs. (we dont have such crap here) Cannot say about 6.0 or other updates yet. Then if you want Recovery or flash ROMs you need to wait for people to make them for Z5P, gonna take some time too. Considering your lack with Sony devices youre in luck, if you have any experience with rooting/flashing, its like taking candy from a baby.
hope this clears a bit, even tho i didnt give much of an answer !
I may be mistaken here, but I don't believe the t-mo variant of the Z3 was rootable. The bootloader unlocking was not possible. That may have changed since I owned it, but that's my recollection.
Cant say, we dont have variants here, even carriers are selling sim unlocked versions.
Any news about root possibilities now ?
Root can be achieved through being flashed through recovery
However root tools wont come till someone finds a exploit
I've been given my brother's old phone, a Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 Verizon running 4.2.2, and wanted to see if there was any development at all happening for this specific variant of the S4 Mini. it shares the same hardware as the serranoltexx variants, but I haven't found conclusive proof of this particular model having any sort of recovery or custom ROMs. I've rooted the phone and disabled KNOX just fine, I just need to know where I'm supposed to look from here.
I have a Moto Droid Razr as my daily running the LineageOS 20171110 14.1 build at the current. this sort of thing isn't new to me, I'm just reaching out for possible definitive answers to this plight I'm in. 4.4.2 is *not* acceptable to be using on a phone in this day and age. Has anyone ever actually gotten one of these to work properly with the serranoltexx ROMs? I know they share the same hardware, but I'm more worried about bricking the phone than I was doing it with the Razr since that has endless information about it out there, yet the I435 information, if any, is flooded by model name for the international LTE variant of the same base hardware.
Thanks in advance for any info anyone may know.
An edit: I've found actual proof that the bootloader is locked. the S4 from Verizon and AT&T also had this issue, and it turns out that the developer of Safestrap for my own daily-driver Razr, @Hashcode, also made one for the Verizon S4 non-mini. This excites me, yet pains me, as I don't think the two are hardware-compatible, meaning one would have to be made up somehow for this phone. Sadly, I think interest in the Verizon variant of this phone has dwindled to nothing. I'd love to have an AMOLED LineageOS device available to me that actually has more than a gig of RAM.
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There are plenty r890/i435l boards on sale over at eBay. If you look hard, this mod costs 15 bucks +/-
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There are plenty r890/i435l boards on sale over at eBay. If you look hard, this mod costs 15 bucks +/-
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Could you explain this for me?
I too have a SCH-i425 that I've been using since it was released. For the last year or so I've been using it exclusively to accept Square payments but recently Square changed their app so it will not work on pre-android 5.0 versions. My phone is 4.4.2. I'm hoping to upgrade it to 5.0 so I can continue using it as I've been otherwise I have to buy a new phone which I really, really, do not want to do.
Thanks so much!
I know it's only out for reviewers and what not but I'm looking forward to the device, not only that but I'm looking to upgrade my rooted V20 and wanted to know the chances of the G7 being rooted
Only European and US unlocked will get official bootloader unlock (as far as we have seen in many variants before) and root other variant may or may not find a way to root
numpea said:
Only European and US unlocked will get official bootloader unlock (as far as we have seen in many variants before) and root other variant may or may not find a way to root
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Well that's blows
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Well that's blows
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Honestly it's a shame I was seriously looking at this phone, but what's more unfortunate is I'm starting to feel rooting is going the way of the dodo, more or less for big brands Samsung and LG for instance. HTC has always been pretty Dev friendly, it's just a shame I stuck with Android all this time because I had the freedom to root and do whatever I wanted and now it's just become a hollow shell of itself
I'd say odds are piratically zero unless you get an unlocked variant, even then it can take months for LG to release the code for unlock. I am looking elsewhere manufacture wise. I have a G3 and it is on its last legs.
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Honestly it's a shame I was seriously looking at this phone, but what's more unfortunate is I'm starting to feel rooting is going the way of the dodo, more or less for big brands Samsung and LG for instance. HTC has always been pretty Dev friendly, it's just a shame I stuck with Android all this time because I had the freedom to root and do whatever I wanted and now it's just become a hollow shell of itself
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For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
as for the oods of getting root, anything is possible.. look at the v30.. look at the g6 and v20 and so on, Most didnt think that would happen... its a challenge.. I wouldnt say you would get it soon,
but sooner or later.. if you truly want software and dont care about hardware, get OP6........................... But if you want a device that can outperform most others, Samsung,LG and Google.............
yeah sony too.. just not a fan of Sony.............
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For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
as for the oods of getting root, anything is possible.. look at the v30.. look at the g6 and v20 and so on, Most didnt think that would happen... its a challenge.. I wouldnt say you would get it soon,
but sooner or later.. if you truly want software and dont care about hardware, get OP6........................... But if you want a device that can outperform most others, Samsung,LG and Google.............
yeah sony too.. just not a fan of Sony.............
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Sony phones are locked down tighter than a nuns vagina so I won't go that way again.
I had an htc M9 and the battery was TERRIBLE. 3 hours I was at 60pct of little use, and this was brand new. So the battery issue has to be better than it was then. But most of us buy our phones and never plan to keep then longer than a year Max and most of us also use the payments so the OP6 and others like it are not affordable, especially for my broke ass.
LG makes great phones, they really do, but I want absolute control over something I legally own (for the time being ) and I think everyone else feels the same way. I haven't given up on LG just yet but for time being, I'm using the Motorola z2 force soley cause it can be rooted easily...well I thought easily anyway. Google's seemless update confuses me with two.
That being said, my hopes are still up, hanging by a string for the next LG model, but this time I won't buy it until root is achieved/released..if ever.
Sigh.
I swore to never own another LG phone after the G4 fiasco, but here I am a few years later - literally about to pull the trigger.
I don't care about the notch or the AI features - I just wanted a good phone with: a headphone jack, bigger screen, and most of all - a wide angle lens. I had my heart set out on an ASUS Zenfone 5 for a while but the wide angle camera has apparently been somewhat disappointing.
I currently own a Pixel 2 XL and a Galaxy S8+ Exynos version, both have been a blast to have because of the ease of being able to flash a new ROM and what not. I know for a fact that having this new G7 means losing the ability to customise the phone, but I'm left with little options as my desires for a wide angle lens has become far too great. I could get a secondary lens for my DSLR but snapping pictures very quickly with a phone has become the norm. Oh well, I'm probably going to get the G7, I'm prepared for a locked bootloader
Question what about for the Verizon editions are those going to be unlocked by Verizon and allowed to root?
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Question what about for the Verizon editions are those going to be unlocked by Verizon and allowed to root?
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Verizon will never unlock the bootloaders on any phone they sell. Basically, if you want root, the general rule is to not buy Verizon phones 99pct of the time they are not unlockable
I though while ago few years there was a law passed that allowed modifications to phones legal?
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I though while ago few years there was a law passed that allowed modifications to phones legal?
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I think that law may have been to physically mod phones? I can't quite remember.
But yeah, Verizon = no bootloader unlock, ever. I am hoping T-Mobile's buy one get one free promo will get the phone in more user's hands. More users should lead to more desires for development. The last LG phone I had was the G4 and there was an odd way of getting root on the phone.. I really hope there will be devs to work on the G7. As always, I'm ready to donate money to get root and the ability to flash ROM's.. honestly, I just want AOSP icons on the statusbar :laugh: I hate ugly statusbar icons!
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I think that law may have been to physically mod phones? I can't quite remember.
But yeah, Verizon = no bootloader unlock, ever. I am hoping T-Mobile's buy one get one free promo will get the phone in more user's hands. More users should lead to more desires for development. The last LG phone I had was the G4 and there was an odd way of getting root on the phone.. I really hope there will be devs to work on the G7. As always, I'm ready to donate money to get root and the ability to flash ROM's.. honestly, I just want AOSP icons on the statusbar :laugh: I hate ugly statusbar icons!
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Considering how incredibly slow LG was to add the V30 unlock codes to the official site, and still no OFFICIAL support for the open market V30/V30+ US998 model, I have serious doubts the G7 will be added to the list, at all. If you have a European variant, I envy you. They DO have laws that require companies to allow for modification. The US has pathetic loopholes in right to repair which even Apple and Microsoft scoff at, let along a smaller company like LG. They simply don't care about the dev or modder community. They would much rather have you get a new phone every year because the former was crippled by poor software and lack of support.
I'm rocking a LG G3 vs985 and it is really in bad shape now that thermal issues have led to SD card failure. I might have to reflow the solder to get it working long enough to see if the G7 will get root, or if there are alternatives.
Eliminater74 said:
For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
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I am currently researching various sites such as XDA now being in the market for a new smartphone out of necessity. That necessity...... Echoing the quoted portion of your previous post...... Is " thanks " to the battery of my HTC 10. I write this with my HTC 10 tethered to a charger because not connected to power once the status bar battery icon shows 70 % it is a very short wait until it bootloops with the only course of action then being a vol. Down + power button combo press to get into download mode...... Select power off...... And connect the HTC 10 back to a power source ( at which point it displays that the 70 % screen on battery power remaining is actually around 8 %.
The HTC 10 battery does indeed suck. Researching now for a new smartphone is leading me to think there are only 2 options that tick the boxes of my wants...... Among those wants being latest hardware with a Good + camera, SD card slot for storage expansion, and ability to be rooted. It appears the 2 smartphones to come the closest to meeting those wants are the LG G7 and Samsung S9 ( and unfortunately it appears presently the want of root may not happen with either of those 2 smartphone options [ Snapdragon versions. ] )
I suppose I could deal with my always-needing-to-be-tethered HTC 10 a little while longer to enter the U12 in the purchase running ( that I presume will be rootable ) but I will be concerned of having another battery nightmare with a HTC smartphone......
Ganuke
I haven't rooted my phones for a few years now. I dont see the necessity for it anymore ( I respect the opinion of others who have their reasons for rooting.. i just have no justifiable reason for myself)
I still use xda a lot for reviews , q&a , discussions etc just not for development.
To me, phones have come a loooooong way from the days of the LG G2x etc where rooting was a MUST if you wanted a phone that could even last the entire day
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I am currently researching various sites such as XDA now being in the market for a new smartphone out of necessity. That necessity...... Echoing the quoted portion of your previous post...... Is " thanks " to the battery of my HTC 10. I write this with my HTC 10 tethered to a charger because not connected to power once the status bar battery icon shows 70 % it is a very short wait until it bootloops with the only course of action then being a vol. Down + power button combo press to get into download mode...... Select power off...... And connect the HTC 10 back to a power source ( at which point it displays that the 70 % screen on battery power remaining is actually around 8 %.
The HTC 10 battery does indeed suck. Researching now for a new smartphone is leading me to think there are only 2 options that tick the boxes of my wants...... Among those wants being latest hardware with a Good + camera, SD card slot for storage expansion, and ability to be rooted. It appears the 2 smartphones to come the closest to meeting those wants are the LG G7 and Samsung S9 ( and unfortunately it appears presently the want of root may not happen with either of those 2 smartphone options [ Snapdragon versions. ] )
I suppose I could deal with my always-needing-to-be-tethered HTC 10 a little while longer to enter the U12 in the purchase running ( that I presume will be rootable ) but I will be concerned of having another battery nightmare with a HTC smartphone......
Ganuke
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I'm actually in the exact same boat as you - although my battery isn't quite as bad on the HTC 10 yet, it's definitely dying 2 or more times a day on me. It's a great phone and I wouldn't be itching for an upgrade if the battery was still good. I like the U12+ but after this(and previously my One M8) having both battery or charging port related issues, wireless charging on my next device is a must. Unfortunately like you said both the Snapdragon S9+ and the G7 are the only current real options and neither of them seem to be getting any traction in the root department. The s9+ is especially interesting to me because I would think the USA would have a HUGE market for people buying and modifying that phone but it seems as though that just isn't so.
Back to the G7 - this is the first time I've ever even considered an LG and this device looks freaking great, but I want to not only de-bloat and adblock, but also have the ability to run free WiFi tether on Sprint as well as the fun of changing out ROMs(although the older and busier I get the more tedious this becomes).
Eagerly watching from the sidelines on what happens with this phone though!
Darkning said:
I'm actually in the exact same boat as you - although my battery isn't quite as bad on the HTC 10 yet, it's definitely dying 2 or more times a day on me. It's a great phone and I wouldn't be itching for an upgrade if the battery was still good. I like the U12+ but after this(and previously my One M8) having both battery or charging port related issues, wireless charging on my next device is a must. Unfortunately like you said both the Snapdragon S9+ and the G7 are the only current real options and neither of them seem to be getting any traction in the root department. The s9+ is especially interesting to me because I would think the USA would have a HUGE market for people buying and modifying that phone but it seems as though that just isn't so.
Back to the G7 - this is the first time I've ever even considered an LG and this device looks freaking great, but I want to not only de-bloat and adblock, but also have the ability to run free WiFi tether on Sprint as well as the fun of changing out ROMs(although the older and busier I get the more tedious this becomes).
Eagerly watching from the sidelines on what happens with this phone though!
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Not a good thing reading that you had battery related issues on a previous HTC smartphone as well as the 10...... As far as my thought of a U12 being in the running for my next soon-to-be purchase each new day I become increasingly frustrated with needing to be constantly tethered to a power source with my HTC 10. I also have a Google Nexus 10 tablet ( that I believe has HTC battery hardware ) which in the past few months has been major off-and-on issues that after online researching of others experiencing the same thing attribute likely to HTC battery hardware in the Google Nexus 10. Early reviews of the HTC U12 do seem promising...... But after the cost of a flagship phone I do not want to find myself having the same battery nightmare a little over a year from now as I am with this HTC 10.
It is a real shame as so long as I am tethered to a power source my HTC 10 still runs like a champ in every other aspect. Another shame is something you mentioned in root / mod activity on XDA seems to have really declined for most smartphone brands...... And that does not give me hope of there arriving root for either the Samsung S9 or LG G7. If I am destined for the LG G7 I am considering holding out for one of the 2 merchants listed on the LG website to get in stock a carrier unlocked version of it...... In hopes that could make it a little easier / likely for eventual bootloader unlock and root. If not I will just have to get use to it being my first Android smartphone that I did not have root on.
With that scenario in mind I have been researching on alternate methods to try and do as close to some of the basic things I have always utilized with root. One thing you mention is debloat. Searching with a phrasing similar to " remove bloat no root " did return a result from XDA that I likely will try And there do exist adblock, firewall, etc. apps that do not require root...... But my guess is they will not function as well as those with root. I have had a few Samsung, a couple Motorola, and this one HTC ( 10 ) branded smartphones...... A purchase of a G7 would be my first LG as well......
Ganuke
Ganuke2kx said:
Not a good thing reading that you had battery related issues on a previous HTC smartphone as well as the 10...... As far as my thought of a U12 being in the running for my next soon-to-be purchase each new day I become increasingly frustrated with needing to be constantly tethered to a power source with my HTC 10. I also have a Google Nexus 10 tablet ( that I believe has HTC battery hardware ) which in the past few months has been major off-and-on issues that after online researching of others experiencing the same thing attribute likely to HTC battery hardware in the Google Nexus 10. Early reviews of the HTC U12 do seem promising...... But after the cost of a flagship phone I do not want to find myself having the same battery nightmare a little over a year from now as I am with this HTC 10.
It is a real shame as so long as I am tethered to a power source my HTC 10 still runs like a champ in every other aspect. Another shame is something you mentioned in root / mod activity on XDA seems to have really declined for most smartphone brands...... And that does not give me hope of there arriving root for either the Samsung S9 or LG G7. If I am destined for the LG G7 I am considering holding out for one of the 2 merchants listed on the LG website to get in stock a carrier unlocked version of it...... In hopes that could make it a little easier / likely for eventual bootloader unlock and root. If not I will just have to get use to it being my first Android smartphone that I did not have root on.
With that scenario in mind I have been researching on alternate methods to try and do as close to some of the basic things I have always utilized with root. One thing you mention is debloat. Searching with a phrasing similar to " remove bloat no root " did return a result from XDA that I likely will try And there do exist adblock, firewall, etc. apps that do not require root...... But my guess is they will not function as well as those with root. I have had a few Samsung, a couple Motorola, and this one HTC ( 10 ) branded smartphones...... A purchase of a G7 would be my first LG as well......
Ganuke
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The prior HTC phone (One m8) didn't really have battery issues, but the charging port (microusb) failed on me. I believe this is going to be much less of an issue going forward with USB C connections so I wouldn't really say that's a major concern. I've had HTC phones all the way back to the EVO 4G, and generally did not have issues with battery or power related things. At this point we're going off topic though. Hopefully someone with the talent and ability finds a passion in figuring out root for the G7.
Darkning said:
At this point we're going off topic though. Hopefully someone with the talent and ability finds a passion in figuring out root for the G7.
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Allllthoooough...... If you and I continue conversing regardless of topic maybe we can bump the thread count up high enough to attract a talented and abled person to take a look here and ultimately detail a root strategy for the LG G7 ( can always hope. )
So on that thought...... How Is the weather where you are ?
Ganuke