Camera quality worse? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wounder if the camera qaulity is the same when using Custom Roms on 5X comapred to stock firmware?
On some other phones the camera qaulity gets worse when using custom roms.

@Peterrrrr said:
I wounder if the camera qaulity is the same when using Custom Roms on 5X comapred to stock firmware?
On some other phones the camera qaulity gets worse when using custom roms.
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I'd say that is not true for google devices because all the software is open source and implemented in custom roms too.
But when it comes to other devices, the quality can be worse as some libraries are private.
Furthermore I never saw any differences in quality between custom and stock roms for both my bullhead and my pixel 3.

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CM 13 vs. Marshmallow

Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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CM13 IS Marshmallow you i... also, CM13 has multiwindow too. None of them has "defects". They both work great. They work so great infact that it's no longer a question of functionality but rather a question of preference.
patryk.kecik said:
Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
davebugyi said:
You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
nitrousĀ² said:
Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
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Well I tried it a week ago exactly. That build had more than just "some bugs". App wise you are right, there is Proshot and Camera FV-5. But you mean CM13 now also has a working laser focus, spectrum sensor and long exposure for the camera?
What about qslide? Is it available on cm 13? And which camera app is better than lg stock camera or cm13 camera? And what about lg apps? I mean calendar, smart notice, quick remote. Its important for me.
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I you don't care about camera quality: CM13 all the way. But if you care, forget CM13. Camera it's just horrible. Photos with horrible quality, not so many options, strange ratio, etc.
I've tried CM13 one day after use stock MM for almost a month (the seven version) and returned to stock because camera.
I completely agree. CM 13 is an amazing project but I think that is a little bit unfair put a young project devolped by a guy or two VS the stock one that starts from completely different conditions.
At this stage of development there is no contest simply because CM 13 has a lot of bugs and no real optimizations focused on G4 only.
All that said what I hope is to have in the future someone that works on a custom kernel cause what I see in the past is that custom ROM works perfectly only on Nexus devices but custom kernel could really improve stock experience in terms of fluidity and battery life without losing features that comes only with stock ROM (e.g. camera or dual window).
I would have 5.1 or Android 6.0 over CM 13 any day. I use quick circle case so dont want to lose awesome feature to give up
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Current state of OP3 camera

I've read a lot about the OOS camera and the various cameras in non OOS ROMs (CM, Aosp, etc). I was wondering if we have gotten to a point where they perform similarly. I've heard mixed opinions.
Also why does OnePlus not release the camera source? They eventually released dash charging source, so I'm curious as to why they wouldn't do the same for the camera?
From what i've experienced, almost all well-lit shots (Both outdoor and indoor) perform almost as well on non-OOS ROMs as they do on OOS. For the discerning eye, OOS shots are still more crisp, but there is enough of a parity there that i don't think most people would notice. Any shot that isn't well-lit, OOS has non-OOS beat. Sometimes by a little, sometimes by a wide margin. In poor lighting, the non-OOS ROMs have gotten better, but it's still pretty clear that OOS is the better performer. Almost all of the issues with these shots come down to the noise cancellation.
When it comes to video, it's a mixed bag. On OOS 3.5.3 community build, the 1080P 60fps mode is amazingly fluid, and for the most part fantastic. The 4k mode is decent from what i can tell, although i don't really use it that much. The slow motion mode is great. On non-OOS ROMs, it depends on the ROM really. SultanXDA's ROM with his custom HAL probably has the best performance as far as video goes. The built-in camera app does a decent job at 1080p video and the 4k seems OK, but again, i don't use that mode very often. Video performance in other camera apps seems decent. On OOS 3.2.6, i had some issues with video performance though, so it's not all roses there if that's the version you're running.
Carl Pei has made it clear on Twitter and on a Reddit AMA that OnePlus will never release a fully open source camera stack. I suspect that this probably has to do with proprietary noise suppression algorithms and some other proprietary optimizations that OnePlus has engineered. It needs to be mentioned that the camera hardware is only one part of the equation when it comes to camera performance. There are a number of software components that go into a full camera experience. There really needs to be both to get full utilization out of a piece of camera hardware. As far as i've heard, OnePlus is "looking at ways" to bring the full OOS camera experience to non-OOS ROMs, but nobody really knows what that entails as of yet.
tesherx said:
From what i've experienced, almost all well-lit shots (Both outdoor and indoor) perform almost as well on non-OOS ROMs as they do on OOS. For the discerning eye, OOS shots are still more crisp, but there is enough of a parity there that i don't think most people would notice. Any shot that isn't well-lit, OOS has non-OOS beat. Sometimes by a little, sometimes by a wide margin. In poor lighting, the non-OOS ROMs have gotten better, but it's still pretty clear that OOS is the better performer. Almost all of the issues with these shots come down to the noise cancellation.
When it comes to video, it's a mixed bag. On OOS 3.5.3 community build, the 1080P 60fps mode is amazingly fluid, and for the most part fantastic. The 4k mode is decent from what i can tell, although i don't really use it that much. The slow motion mode is great. On non-OOS ROMs, it depends on the ROM really. SultanXDA's ROM with his custom HAL probably has the best performance as far as video goes. The built-in camera app does a decent job at 1080p video and the 4k seems OK, but again, i don't use that mode very often. Video performance in other camera apps seems decent. On OOS 3.2.6, i had some issues with video performance though, so it's not all roses there if that's the version you're running.
Carl Pei has made it clear on Twitter and on a Reddit AMA that OnePlus will never release a fully open source camera stack. I suspect that this probably has to do with proprietary noise suppression algorithms and some other proprietary optimizations that OnePlus has engineered. It needs to be mentioned that the camera hardware is only one part of the equation when it comes to camera performance. There are a number of software components that go into a full camera experience. There really needs to be both to get full utilization out of a piece of camera hardware. As far as i've heard, OnePlus is "looking at ways" to bring the full OOS camera experience to non-OOS ROMs, but nobody really knows what that entails as of yet.
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Thanks for the excellent explanation!
Also worth considering that the camera isn't manufactured by one plus, can't remember what off hand who's sensor they're using, so they would need manufacturers permission to release driver source.
ghostofcain said:
Also worth considering that the camera isn't manufactured by one plus, can't remember what off hand who's sensor they're using, so they would need manufacturers permission to release driver source.
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Rear camera sensor is SONY IMX298 Exmor RS
Front camera sensor is SONY IMX179
On topic: i have always used Nexus and loved changing ROMs and trying new roms. With oneplus 2 i could do it, because of a good camera port, but in this phone... OOS is a must if you want to take decent pictures
Oos 3.5.2 camera is insanely good and super fast. Really its faster than iphone 6s plus camera with oos
Luckily we have xposed framework, so we can customize our op3 using oos roms, but yeah... It kinda sucks we have to use oos just because of camera. It doesnt matter app you use in custom roms, it will lack libs, drivers etc...
Same as FPS. OOS is insanely fast but with any custom ROM (even with released sources) its slower (still fast but i notice that difference)
Edit: btw oos is a pretty nice ROM.
Lacks customization? Yes, but xposed framework will do that
compared to S7 or HTC 10 the OnePlus3 camera sux
Only For camera I can't use any Custom rom
Sadly comment here.. Cz i tasted all rom here and There iso no good camera custom rom.. all custom camera sucks ?..
Now i am using 3.2.4 cz 3.2.6 camera also missing focus on right place.. and I love to capture regular macro shot via my mobile...
But i buy it also tested custom rom.. but i can'T!! only for bad camera ??

Camera Quality on Custom Roms

hello people
i want to ask how is the camera quality on custom roms compared to miui? Can we use secondary rear camera? and is there any quality loss on custom roms?

Is the camera quality the same on all phones running a custom ROM?

I've run LineageOS 17.1 on three different (refurbished) LG V20 H918s- on all of them, if the camera worked, the picture quality was horrific despite having a 16 MP camera. If I were to get a 7T and root/flash a new ROM on it, would the 32 extra MP give slightly better camera quality? I understand that with a custom ROM the camera quality will never match the stock one, but I'm curious if the camera quality is the same on all modded phones or if it depends on the hardware as well. If you have a 7T, how's the camera quality and which OS are you running on it?
There are so many other camera issues than just "quality" that it's so much of a hassle you'll think leaving OxygenOS was the dumbest thing you did.
ej8989 said:
There are so many other camera issues than just "quality" that it's so much of a hassle you'll think leaving OxygenOS was the dumbest thing you did.
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What are those other issues?
ej8989 said:
There are so many other camera issues than just "quality" that it's so much of a hassle you'll think leaving OxygenOS was the dumbest thing you did.
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Yeah not really...
tussya said:
What are those other issues?
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I tried installing AOSiP on my OnePlus 7T a week ago. Everything seemed fine till I opened my camera I couldn't find a way to switch between the three camera modes. Also, the camera quality was pretty horrific compared to the stock camera. Part of this is due to OnePlus having custom camera blobs in OxygenOS. I've heard Google Cam improves the quality significantly, but it's been a nightmare for me to set it up. It would randomly crash too. So take a backup of your data, flash your custom rom, run it for a few days and judge for yourself. Have a great day.
ptanmay143 said:
I tried installing AOSiP on my OnePlus 7T a week ago. Everything seemed fine till I opened my camera I couldn't find a way to switch between the three camera modes. Also, the camera quality was pretty horrific compared to the stock camera. Part of this is due to OnePlus having custom camera blobs in OxygenOS. I've heard Google Cam improves the quality significantly, but it's been a nightmare for me to set it up. It would randomly crash too. So take a backup of your data, flash your custom rom, run it for a few days and judge for yourself. Have a great day.
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You have to use the aux module to use the other lenses.
I do agree that camera can be difficult to setup/ find the right balance. Although, there was a new gcam update released with improvements specifically for OnePlus devices. Worth trying out.

Question Custom rom is same camera quality with stock?

Can someone tell me a rom with the same image quality as the stock rom? I'm using deepfest and the photos are really bad
I find google camera works well with lineage os, same as stock. Battery life isn't great for me though
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hoanganhltv98 said:
Can someone tell me a rom with the same image quality as the stock rom? I'm using deepfest and the photos are really bad
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It's hard to understand your description... Do you mean camera app or rom ?
I think that the camera works worse on custom firmware. unless of course you are not a specialist in photo / video, then you most likely will not notice the differences, but they are present.
It is better to install the camera from BSG and customize it for yourself. however, you can ask for a config file with settings
idark11 said:
I think that the camera works worse on custom firmware.
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They most certainly work *precisely* the same. What you are experiencing is that you probably at one point heard about some (different) phone that truly DID degrade image quality when unlocking (I think Sony did that?), and have therefore gone looking for imperfections, which you have convinced yourself are present.
The reality is that the camera HAL is absolutely IDENTICAL on the factory system image and on AOSP, and the output of both will be absolutely identical in every way.
96carboard said:
They most certainly work *precisely* the same. What you are experiencing is that you probably at one point heard about some (different) phone that truly DID degrade image quality when unlocking (I think Sony did that?), and have therefore gone looking for imperfections, which you have convinced yourself are present.
The reality is that the camera HAL is absolutely IDENTICAL on the factory system image and on AOSP, and the output of both will be absolutely identical in every way.
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then explain to me why on a custom ROM ricedroid lens not working x4?
96carboard said:
They most certainly work *precisely* the same. What you are experiencing is that you probably at one point heard about some (different) phone that truly DID degrade image quality when unlocking (I think Sony did that?), and have therefore gone looking for imperfections, which you have convinced yourself are present.
The reality is that the camera HAL is absolutely IDENTICAL on the factory system image and on AOSP, and the output of both will be absolutely identical in every way.
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tell me why on a bone pzu evolution X stuck when changing camera?
@idark11 ; because they ****ed something up. Its easy to break things.
If you build a pure aosp system, it will work perfectly.
camera works better on hentaiOS

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