Hey there,
I'll buy a galaxy watch but I'm still curious about which version to choose. I don't know if I will use LTE but I've read about the doubled RAM (1,5GB instead of 768MB). So the question is: Will I have more free RAM available on the LTE-Version with LTE/carrier disabled? And will the battery life be the same as the BT-only version?
Cheers.
fabsen said:
Hey there,
I'll buy a galaxy watch but I'm still curious about which version to choose. I don't know if I will use LTE but I've read about the doubled RAM (1,5GB instead of 768MB). So the question is: Will I have more free RAM available on the LTE-Version with LTE/carrier disabled? And will the battery life be the same as the BT-only version?
Cheers.
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i get around 2.5 days of usage in my LTE version.
what i can do this week is disable lte and see if that helps.
wifi is already turned off.
but what makes me think this wont do anything is that there is already an auto disable function for wifi and lte.
when watch is already connected by bluetooth, then toher connections are supposedly disabled.
im a very light user. aod is off and i dont really exercise that much.
anyways this morning ill be disabling lte and see how much more battery life i get if any.
bober10113 said:
i get around 2.5 days of usage in my LTE version.
what i can do this week is disable lte and see if that helps.
wifi is already turned off.
but what makes me think this wont do anything is that there is already an auto disable function for wifi and lte.
when watch is already connected by bluetooth, then toher connections are supposedly disabled.
im a very light user. aod is off and i dont really exercise that much.
anyways this morning ill be disabling lte and see how much more battery life i get if any.
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Well, the point is there is more hardware built in (LTE modem), so I would assume more battery consumption. No matter whether turned on or not. 2,5 days seems less than expected by me tbh. I have one atm. I started setting it (46mm LTE-version without eSim) up on saturday 21:00 at 100% battery. Now (Monday 17:30) I am at 18% battery. I was playing a bit with some apps, making 2-3 calls and with AOD turned on. So I assume LTE drains a lot more than BT and I won't get more than a day of battery life.
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Well, the point is there is more hardware built in (LTE modem), so I would assume more battery consumption. No matter whether turned on or not. 2,5 days seems less than expected by me tbh. I have one atm. I started setting it (46mm LTE-version without eSim) up on saturday 21:00 at 100% battery. Now (Monday 17:30) I am at 18% battery. I was playing a bit with some apps, making 2-3 calls and with AOD turned on. So I assume LTE drains a lot more than BT and I won't get more than a day of battery life.
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take aod off and use the gesture to auto turn on the screen when flicking your wrist upwards.
also dont use any 3rd party themes that have weather indicators. the weather and location tracking kills the battery.
bober10113 said:
take aod off and use the gesture to auto turn on the screen when flicking your wrist upwards.
also dont use any 3rd party themes that have weather indicators. the weather and location tracking kills the battery.
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Thanks for the suggestions but tbh it's not my first multimedia/smart device. there is only one thing which is more ugly than a turned off watch: aftermarket navigation systems for the windshield. I don't understand ppl doing/buying one of the two things. I mean... You buy an expensive watch... and the display is off 24/7? Imagine a rolex watch with empty display
fabsen said:
Thanks for the suggestions but tbh it's not my first multimedia/smart device. there is only one thing which is more ugly than a turned off watch: aftermarket navigation systems for the windshield. I don't understand ppl doing/buying one of the two things. I mean... You buy an expensive watch... and the display is off 24/7? Imagine a rolex watch with empty display
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i get your point. but these watches are pieces of **** when it comes to battery life and storage space. i was flabbergasted to see that i only had 1.5 gigs usable storage space doe my mp3s.
to overcome these shortcomings i remove all that i can and leave the screen off.
but my comment regarding the weather is still valid since 3rd party watch faces have a documented issue concerning that feature.( weather/location).
stock samsung watchface with temperature dosen't seem to have that issue. only 3rd party. my tests had shown around 18 hours of battery life with minimal usage and no aod on a 3rd party watch face with wearther\temperature on it. so thats a real bug
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Thanks for the suggestions but tbh it's not my first multimedia/smart device. there is only one thing which is more ugly than a turned off watch: aftermarket navigation systems for the windshield. I don't understand ppl doing/buying one of the two things. I mean... You buy an expensive watch... and the display is off 24/7? Imagine a rolex watch with empty display
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so from a full charge on monday 8am to now Thursday 8am, im at 23%
ill report back once it dies but i suspect that i can almost do till friday 8 am.
only thing that was done is disable lte. ive removed it each day for 20 mins for shower but have kept it on all the time even while sleeping.
so im at 14% and it is now 6h44pm
safe to say it would have probably made it till tomorrow morning 8ham but i need to have it charge for tomorrow.
so it really looks like disabling lte did help out quite alot.
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Well, the point is there is more hardware built in (LTE modem), so I would assume more battery consumption. No matter whether turned on or not. 2,5 days seems less than expected by me tbh. I have one atm. I started setting it (46mm LTE-version without eSim) up on saturday 21:00 at 100% battery. Now (Monday 17:30) I am at 18% battery. I was playing a bit with some apps, making 2-3 calls and with AOD turned on. So I assume LTE drains a lot more than BT and I won't get more than a day of battery life.
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Nope that was your AOD kills aw third or more
bober10113 said:
so im at 14% and it is now 6h44pm
safe to say it would have probably made it till tomorrow morning 8ham but i need to have it charge for tomorrow.
so it really looks like disabling lte did help out quite alot.
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Wow, I'm jealous tbh. So yours lasted 4 days (14% left) with sleep tracking? Mine never hit the 4th day. I've disabled aod, wlan and there is no esim set up, so no LTE. My watchface has no information but time and date and I did no sleep tracking. My workouts are 30-60 min a day. What's your secret? There is no esim in mine, do I still have to disable it somehow?
Edit: Also no BT-calls, just ~ 10-15 notifications a day and maybe 20 minutes screen on time
Edit: I also noticed there is "only" 700mb RAM left. So I guess LTE is using ram (is enabled?).
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Wow, I'm jealous tbh. So yours lasted 4 days (14% left) with sleep tracking? Mine never hit the 4th day. I've disabled aod, wlan and there is no esim set up, so no LTE. My watchface has no information but time and date and I did no sleep tracking. My workouts are 30-60 min a day. What's your secret? There is no esim in mine, do I still have to disable it somehow?
Edit: Also no BT-calls, just ~ 10-15 notifications a day and maybe 20 minutes screen on time
Edit: I also noticed there is "only" 700mb RAM left. So I guess LTE is using ram (is enabled?).
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manualy disable the radio for lte. its the culprit.
i reenabled it even if 90% of the time phone is connected to bluetooth and technically should not be using it, it seems to be a source of battery drain.
on an other note, with lte enable but connected to BT, i have 800mb ram left.
bober10113 said:
i get your point. but these watches are pieces of **** when it comes to battery life and storage space. i was flabbergasted to see that i only had 1.5 gigs usable storage space doe my mp3s.
to overcome these shortcomings i remove all that i can and leave the screen off.
but my comment regarding the weather is still valid since 3rd party watch faces have a documented issue concerning that feature.( weather/location).
stock samsung watchface with temperature dosen't seem to have that issue. only 3rd party. my tests had shown around 18 hours of battery life with minimal usage and no aod on a 3rd party watch face with wearther\temperature on it. so thats a real bug
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lol.. You use gear OS yet?
yillbo said:
lol.. You use gear OS yet?
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nope. should i have?
bober10113 said:
nope. should i have?
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No, whatever you get on your GW, divide that by half, then divide it again, and that's what you'll get. You're lucky to get full 10 hours with a gear OS watch.
I have a frontier LTE and still almost get two days.
bober10113 said:
manualy disable the radio for lte. its the culprit.
i reenabled it even if 90% of the time phone is connected to bluetooth and technically should not be using it, it seems to be a source of battery drain.
on an other note, with lte enable but connected to BT, i have 800mb ram left.
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How do you disable it manualy? Connection -> Mobile Network -> Always off? Or is there any top secret SDK command
I cleaned up RAM and it said 767MB free. After disabling mobile network and rebooting it says now 930MB free. Strange....
fabsen said:
How do you disable it manualy? Connection -> Mobile Network -> Always off? Or is there any top secret SDK command
I cleaned up RAM and it said 767MB free. After disabling mobile network and rebooting it says now 930MB free. Strange....
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yeah... thats what i meant by disabling.
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yillbo said:
No, whatever you get on your GW, divide that by half, then divide it again, and that's what you'll get. You're lucky to get full 10 hours with a gear OS watch.
I have a frontier LTE and still almost get two days.
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oh. i wonder then compared to the apple watch.... those ugly squares of trash
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yeah... thats what i meant by disabling.
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oh. i wonder then compared to the apple watch.... those ugly squares of trash
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The apple watch does get pretty good battery life, the LTE version is above the Gear s3 frontier LTE, but about the same as the Galaxy watch LTE version. I don't really include the Apple watch because you pretty much have to change ecosystems to utilize it. I moved from the apple watch / iphone to note 9 / frontier LTE / GW LTE, I think the apple watch is better and has a better experience in general. However, the Samsung is no slouch in regards to anything it does, including it's battery life. the apple watch is trying to allow the watch ( with a smaller screen ) to do things watches just don't need to do yet.
I wanted to get notifications when i'm away from my phone, stream to earbuds from my watch, and control my home automation from my watch. I can start my truck, lock /unlock the doors of my truck, and control every aspect of my house with my watch, I can stream music directly from the watch while working on ( no phone ), I can view my security cameras from my watch, and I can get extremely useful notifications to my watch, all without my phone in my pocket, or around me.
The gear is by far the more useful of the three major players, but it still lacks in " polishing " features that the apple watch has. though, I deal with it because my frontier still has MST, and i live in a town with 10k people, so very few NFC payment options.
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bober10113 said:
manualy disable the radio for lte. its the culprit.
i reenabled it even if 90% of the time phone is connected to bluetooth and technically should not be using it, it seems to be a source of battery drain.
on an other note, with lte enable but connected to BT, i have 800mb ram left.
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The LTE radio can't really be a source of the battery drain. either an app is using the current, or it's not. you can determine this by reviewing the apps that are running in the background. If LTE is set to automatic, then when the watch is on wifi, or bluetooth, the LTE radio is literally off, just as if you manually disabled it.
Unless you can cite what's making you think the LTE radio is causing you issues it's more than likely not the culprit at all.
The LTE radio can't really be a source of the battery drain. either an app is using the current, or it's not. you can determine this by reviewing the apps that are running in the background. If LTE is set to automatic, then when the watch is on wifi, or bluetooth, the LTE radio is literally off, just as if you manually disabled it.
Unless you can cite what's making you think the LTE radio is causing you issues it's more than likely not the culprit at all.
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Well, there is a difference in RAM-usage if you have mobile network enabled. So that would be a small indicator for the app being running allthough not used.
My stats right now are:
Running for: 2d, 3h, 33min
Remaining: 11h, 34min
Battery usage:
Samsung Health 33%
Watch faces 11%
Notifications 2%
Music 2%
Barometer 1%
Settings 1%
I was doing about 2,5 hrs training which was automatically detected by workout detection. And 24 minutes of walking (GPS). No calls, no streaming, aod disables, HR disabled (!), no sleep tracking, wifi disabled, no fancy stuff. I think this is some kind of battery friendly minimum usage.
yillbo said:
The apple watch does get pretty good battery life, the LTE version is above the Gear s3 frontier LTE, but about the same as the Galaxy watch LTE version. I don't really include the Apple watch because you pretty much have to change ecosystems to utilize it. I moved from the apple watch / iphone to note 9 / frontier LTE / GW LTE, I think the apple watch is better and has a better experience in general. However, the Samsung is no slouch in regards to anything it does, including it's battery life. the apple watch is trying to allow the watch ( with a smaller screen ) to do things watches just don't need to do yet.
I wanted to get notifications when i'm away from my phone, stream to earbuds from my watch, and control my home automation from my watch. I can start my truck, lock /unlock the doors of my truck, and control every aspect of my house with my watch, I can stream music directly from the watch while working on ( no phone ), I can view my security cameras from my watch, and I can get extremely useful notifications to my watch, all without my phone in my pocket, or around me.
The gear is by far the more useful of the three major players, but it still lacks in " polishing " features that the apple watch has. though, I deal with it because my frontier still has MST, and i live in a town with 10k people, so very few NFC payment options.
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The LTE radio can't really be a source of the battery drain. either an app is using the current, or it's not. you can determine this by reviewing the apps that are running in the background. If LTE is set to automatic, then when the watch is on wifi, or bluetooth, the LTE radio is literally off, just as if you manually disabled it.
Unless you can cite what's making you think the LTE radio is causing you issues it's more than likely not the culprit at all.
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well i do t know what elese i need to cite:
lte off = 4 days
lte on =around 2.5 days
Update: Disabling health notification and workout detection resulted in 1 day more battery juice.
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I just replaced my battery and noticed it doesn't go beyond 4 - 5 hrs. So I was wondering if the battery has an issue or something. Can everyone using Froyo 2.2 state their battery life, please, mentioning also your phonel type.
I use a Touch Pro 2 from Sprint, that is RHOD500.
Thanks for your responses.
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First the TP2 from Sprint is a RHOD400.
Second, it highly depends on usage. Lots of phone calls? Browsing? Streaming video, etc? 4-5 hours isn't bad then. If the phone is sleeping 100% of that 4-5 hours, NO radios (cell, wifi, bt, gps, etc) then that's pretty bad.
I typically get 6-10 hours (again usage ^^). Mostly idle, 10 hours. More browsing, videos, phone calls... closer to 6. I try to stick near a charger.
The port is far from perfect. The battery meter is off, and there's probably some places where power management could use some help - but it'll never sip batteries like WinMo does. WinMo is doing nothing basically, and Android isn't so great on native devices batteries... so I'm not exactly surprised Android sucks my battery dry.
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Android isn't so great on native devices batteries... so I'm not exactly surprised Android sucks my battery dry.
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I've had my lady's HTC Desire running Android in no-sim mode for three days now. Looks like it might need a charge later today. I did a 40 minute stint using the GPS and a mapping program during that time.
Suggestion to OP: Keep the backlight low, and on a short timeout. Also, disable the high speed network when you don't need it. Especially if the phone hops between high and lower speed networks frequently. Also, the battery might improve a bit after a few charges/discharges. Is it an OEM battery or a cheap knockoff?
Twice as short as in Windows
I really love Android on my TP2 and I'm amazed how well it's running on it. Really impressive, the only thing I'm less happy with is the battery usage. Even on stand-by it lasts at less then in Windows mode.
I've been comparing it now for a few days: I can do at least 1 day with a charge in Windows mode (sometimes even 2 days), but in Android mode I have to change before lunch time and before dinner to get through a day. Even while doing more or less the same things. (Turning off WiFi, GPS, sync etc do not seem to save much).
So, I'm afraid that I can only enjoy Android while there is power outlet nearby. This is really too bad as I would simply love to get rid of the whole Windows install.
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I've had my lady's HTC Desire running Android in no-sim mode for three days now. Looks like it might need a charge later today. I did a 40 minute stint using the GPS and a mapping program during that time.
Suggestion to OP: Keep the backlight low, and on a short timeout. Also, disable the high speed network when you don't need it. Especially if the phone hops between high and lower speed networks frequently. Also, the battery might improve a bit after a few charges/discharges. Is it an OEM battery or a cheap knockoff?
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Well with no SIM in of course it would last days. One dev found our port could run 65+ hours in this manner...
GerardNL said:
I really love Android on my TP2 and I'm amazed how well it's running on it. Really impressive, the only thing I'm less happy with is the battery usage. Even on stand-by it lasts at less then in Windows mode.
I've been comparing it now for a few days: I can do at least 1 day with a charge in Windows mode (sometimes even 2 days), but in Android mode I have to change before lunch time and before dinner to get through a day. Even while doing more or less the same things. (Turning off WiFi, GPS, sync etc do not seem to save much).
So, I'm afraid that I can only enjoy Android while there is power outlet nearby. This is really too bad as I would simply love to get rid of the whole Windows install.
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C'est la vie, read above. Android will never, ever be as frugal with your battery like WinMo is. Which do you want, Android and crappy battery or WinMo and good battery? Choice is yours, no one is forcing you either way. Can't have both tho.
arrrghhh said:
WWhich do you want, Android and crappy battery or WinMo and good battery? Choice is yours, no one is forcing you either way. Can't have both tho.
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I've actually been pretty happy with FRX7.1 and battery life. I'm consistently getting 24+ hours with my usage (mostly data, some talk).
WinMo would easily go 50% more, but a full day is enough that I can forget to put it on the charger at night and not be dead in the morning.
FaluSeyi - If it's not direct usage I would check to see if you have GPS accidentally turned on, in my experience that seems to be the thing that kills my battery if I forget to shut it off when I'm done using it.
First the TP2 from Sprint is a RHOD400.
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Blame the guy that changed the phone casing before I was given the phone. lol. The front says Sprint and under the battery cover it says xxxRHOD500.
Second, it highly depends on usage. Lots of phone calls? Browsing? Streaming video, etc? 4-5 hours isn't bad then. If the phone is sleeping 100% of that 4-5 hours, NO radios (cell, wifi, bt, gps, etc) then that's pretty bad.
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I rarely use BT, cell and messaging are my regulars and of course data. wifi doesn't work, though I wonder if it ever goes off. That leaves GPS, which I think is almost always on.
Thanks, y'all!
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FaluSeyi said:
Blame the guy that changed the phone casing before I was given the phone. lol. The front says Sprint and under the battery cover it says xxxRHOD500.
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Well if you know this, then say that. Your first post would make me think that the Sprint TP2 is a RHOD500, which simply is not true.
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I rarely use BT, cell and messaging are my regulars and of course data. wifi doesn't work, though I wonder if it ever goes off. That leaves GPS, which I think is almost always on.
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Wifi works fine. GPS is broken to always on, read the FAQ. That's the reason your battery life sucks, you don't know how to read!!
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Wifi works fine. GPS is broken to always on, read the FAQ. That's the reason your battery life sucks, you don't know how to read!!
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The FAQ says something about getting a position fix, but I couldn't see anything about switching it off. How is that done? Or can't it be done?
The Desire ran 92 hours before it demanded a charge up, including the 40 minute stint on GPS + program with always on backlight. 10 month old OEM battery used daily.
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The FAQ says something about getting a position fix, but I couldn't see anything about switching it off. How is that done? Or can't it be done?
The Desire ran 92 hours before it demanded a charge up, including the 40 minute stint on GPS + program with always on backlight. 10 month old OEM battery used daily.
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It's a bug with our port. Once GPS is turned on/used, it is 'stuck on' until you manually turn it off. This bug is fixed in the new GB build.
You couldn't see how to turn it off? Settings --> Location & Security. Wow... from a native device owner, I'm kinda surprised.
New GB build? Nice news... I thought it was a dead project by now
zooster said:
New GB build? Nice news... I thought it was a dead project by now
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Ye have little faith!
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You couldn't see how to turn it off? Settings --> Location & Security. Wow... from a native device owner, I'm kinda surprised.
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Heh, it 'just works'(tm) and I haven't had to turn it off manually.
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Faith is the last thing to die...
this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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sell it
(im just writing this stuff here because of the too short rule)
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this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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Congratulations on a useless post.
If that's the only battery life you're getting then you should really look at how you have your device set up. I easily get 12-15 hours on heavy use and more than 24 hours on light use (moderate use is somewhere in between). I use auto brightness, and keep bluetooth, gps, and wifi turned on all the time. I have facebook syncing and push email going and I have no battery issues at all. I suggest you take a look at your device configuration and also you may need to calibrate your battery.
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If that's the only battery life you're getting then you should really look at how you have your device set up. I easily get 12-15 hours on heavy use and more than 24 hours on light use (moderate use is somewhere in between). I use auto brightness, and keep bluetooth, gps, and wifi turned on all the time. I have facebook syncing and push email going and I have no battery issues at all. I suggest you take a look at your device configuration and also you may need to calibrate your battery.
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so you are suggesting to turn wifi,bluetooth and gps on all the time for better battery life? really?
Mine is currently on 1day and 7hours on battery, still with 30% left. You need to set it up properly mate..
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so you are suggesting to turn wifi,bluetooth and gps on all the time for better battery life? really?
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Nowhere in what I posted did I say that. Try reading with understanding next time. What I said was I have everything turned on and I still get good battery life, so if yours is lacking perhaps you should take a look at how your device is configured. That a bit clearer for you?....
OP, your post has made my day today!
However battery life depends on how your device usage is. People with carefully set usage patterns can extract the most. For e.g. I use Locale to set a certain profile at night that switches off wifi, data usage, etc. That is one way to maximise battery life.
Edited your title to be proper.
Please maintain forum etiquette. You can get the same exact message across using proper language
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Nowhere in what I posted did I say that. Try reading with understanding next time. What I said was I have everything turned on and I still get good battery life, so if yours is lacking perhaps you should take a look at how your device is configured. That a bit clearer for you?....
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ah i see so how is ur device configured exactly? are you rooted? because im not getting good battery life neither
I'm having similar battery issues, a heads up on how to set up the phone for a better battery life would be very much appreciated.
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I'm having similar battery issues, a heads up on how to set up the phone for a better battery life would be very much appreciated.
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yea that would be awesome
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ah i see so how is ur device configured exactly? are you rooted? because im not getting good battery life neither
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Okay let me further clarify myself. When I say look at how your device is configured I mean look at what you have running. Do you have things syncing frequently in the background? Do you have apps installed that constantly wake the device? How many background apps are you running at once. I don't have any special configuration on my device. I have everything turned on as far as bluetooth, wifi, and gps. I use push email, facebook set to sync every 4 hours, weather set to sync every 6 hours, google reader set to "download frequently viewed feeds every hour", currents set to sync every 6 hours in the background (wifi only). With those settings my battery life is pretty good. When I'm not using my phone is drains between 2-2.5% battery per hour, that should give you a bit of a point of reference for what you should be getting when idle. Here's an app here I stumbled across that can show you what's waking your device http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 Hope this helps you out.
Battery is pretty good to me, under normal usage easily over 24hours.
I have had no problems with my battery or screen, not sure where your setup went wrong but listen to the posters before me and less ranting and maybe you'll make the best out of an awesome device
My battery is great! Better than any other smart phone iv used, signal is great swell and the screen is awesome
I love this phone lol
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gianfy.c said:
this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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I see in your screenshot the GPS and the screen were on for most of that time.
And by "on" I mean the GPS was really on with a fix, not just "on standby" and ready to be automatically activated when a program requests it.
No phone I have ever owned has ever got more than about 4 hours from the battery when I have been using the GPS. The simple fact of the matter is the battery will discharge very quickly when using GPS. That's not a fault of the Nexus, that's just how it is.
Bad battery?
That screenshot shows you've been absolutely caning the **** out of your phone. Nothing will have a good battery life with usage like that.
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Bad battery?
That screenshot shows you've been absolutely caning the **** out of your phone. Nothing will have a good battery life with usage like that.
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QFT. Almost half of it has been screen on, GPS on. No phone can stand up to that for long.
Cool story.
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just fully charged it last night, play a bit, battery was at 90% when i went to bed, wifi was on, i even had the juice defender installed.
when i got up this morning (6 hr sleep), the battery has 50% left! when i check the battery usage, Cellular Network is the one used battery most, says 30%, then Phone idle came second with 25%. is that normal? ( I don't think so...) even the phone in idle mode it used that much battery? and even i don't have a SIM card in the phone, the Cellular Network still consuming battery?
Sounds like it was searching for the network all night. I would hope it'd be smart enough to just stop, but apparently not! I'm sure it'd sleep like a baby in airplane mode.
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just fully charged it last night, play a bit, battery was at 90% when i went to bed, wifi was on, i even had the juice defender installed.
when i got up this morning (6 hr sleep), the battery has 50% left! when i check the battery usage, Cellular Network is the one used battery most, says 30%, then Phone idle came second with 25%. is that normal? ( I don't think so...) even the phone in idle mode it used that much battery? and even i don't have a SIM card in the phone, the Cellular Network still consuming battery?
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If the radio is on it'll consume power - and with no SIM card inserted, unless you enter airplane mode, it'll leave the radio on for emergency calls.
Might even consume MORE power in that configuration. I've noticed that Qualcomm devices often behave badly in terms of power consumption when they don't have a SIM.
Yep, way more. I work in AK and you often leave coverage, do so without going in to airplane and the battery will plummet as quickly as if you are on an active call because your phone is constantly searching for a network. Some phone will search for a while and then take a break and resume after a set interval. These are not as bad but you're still way ahead of the game going to airplane until you get in coverage.
Some people are not aware that you can go into airplane and then turn on WiFi after.
Anyone else have OppoKinectService.apk show up as a major contributor towards battery drain? When I look at my battery consumption history its always between 30%-40%. Does anyone know what that app does or controls?
Isn't that the service which controls the off screen gestures?
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Isn't that the service which controls the off screen gestures?
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Not sure to be honest. I have all gestures turned off and yet I still have the drain. Only gesture I have enabled still is knock on/off. That can't account for that much drain. Unless they are still working out the kinks in color OS
You're either out our you're in because enabling one requires the phone to standby for a potential input every bit as much as enabling them all. You do benefit from killing the voice because the phone no longer has to keep a live mic going or use cycles trying to parse out whether you did or did not use the trigger phrase.
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Anyone else have OppoKinectService.apk show up as a major contributor towards battery drain? When I look at my battery consumption history its always between 30%-40%. Does anyone know what that app does or controls?
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Yes, I posted on the Oppo Google+ community yesterday on this very thing. My battery life is atrocious! I even reloaded the phone after a few days (to rule out an app). I have tried everything under the sun to improve the battery performance, even turning the LTE off and going with Edge service - made very little difference. I love the hardware, but this is ridiculous. I understand each phone has its nuance, but there is a limit. Thankfully, Oppo included an extra battery. Perhaps with this freebie, they acknowledge battery drain? Thankful for the rapid charger too. I hope a firmware release is on the way that will address the battery drain issues.
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You're either out our you're in because enabling one requires the phone to standby for a potential input every bit as much as enabling them all. You do benefit from killing the voice because the phone no longer has to keep a live mic going or use cycles trying to parse out whether you did or did not use the trigger phrase.
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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.
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Yes, I posted on the Oppo Google+ community yesterday on this very thing. My battery life is atrocious! I even reloaded the phone after a few days (to rule out an app). I have tried everything under the sun to improve the battery performance, even turning the LTE off and going with Edge service - made very little difference. I love the hardware, but this is ridiculous. I understand each phone has its nuance, but there is a limit. Thankfully, Oppo included an extra battery. Perhaps with this freebie, they acknowledge battery drain? Thankful for the rapid charger too. I hope a firmware release is on the way that will address the battery drain issues.
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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.
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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
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Wow, 7 hrs screen time is incredible. You must have everything off, Greenfield, etc...
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Wow, 7 hrs screen time is incredible. You must have everything off, Greenfield, etc...
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At that point I still had the knock on/off gesture enabled. I just had other gestures off. After disabling the knock feature I noticed the OppoKinectService stopped appearing in my battery manager so I guess that solves that.
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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.
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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
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Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:
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Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:
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Shows a little over 6 hours. I didn't take another screen shot before reseting and recharging the phone but by end of it I was right at 7 hours.
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Shows a little over 6 hours. I didn't take another screen shot before reseting and recharging the phone but by end of it I was right at 7 hours.
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Thanks, do you also have one of the history details?
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Thanks, do you also have one of the history details?
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Nope
So what's your secret @dc82?
Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.
What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?
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So what's your secret @dc82?
Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.
What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?
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i normarlly have over 3hrs screen on time during my 1st week with 7a.
phone used time from 17~30 hrs depends on my usage. but generally i think the battery is very good.
and strangely enough, when i leave the phone idle (during my sleep) , it seems to drain faster than when i use the phone during the day? anyone else have the same experience?
Yes, the reports on poor standby are so ubiquitous that I'm pretty sure the rare few who are claiming otherwise don't know what they are talking about or are mistaken. It was mentioned in every single review that bothered to mention standby at all so you can figure you have a known issue(s) affecting all devices.
Im seriously considering returning this item. I just bough the moto 360 yesterday and im getting unaceptable battery life. I see people on this forum able to use the watch for a full day and it still got battery while mine is struggling to run for 6 hours straight. Right now my watch has been running for 4 hours and a half and its down to 44%. I have tried every troubleshoot,I have resetted my watch 4 times now,I have cleared the cache of my application and reinstalled the whole thing. I even tried running it without any application installed, completely stock and my battery is still draining like crazy.
Im not using it that much. Right now I have insta weather installed,skymaster skin and wear battery stats and thats about it. I love this watch but i cant deal with this kind of ****. I consider myself pretty good with hardware and new accesories, and I cant believe how much time ive wasted trying to make this thing worked. Is there something to do really?
Try to use for is purpose for notifications if you bought yesterday and do all that things how are you going yo know which is is battery life with a normal use ?
The panel is who use al the battery , if u use ir forma notification you would get a day battery like a phone if you use youre phone for 4 hours you would drain your battery is battery life of your phone of 4 hours ? NO.
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Try to use for is purpose for notifications if you bought yesterday and do all that things how are you going yo know which is is battery life with a normal use ?
The panel is who use al the battery , if u use ir forma notification you would get a day battery like a phone if you use youre phone for 4 hours you would drain your battery is battery life of your phone of 4 hours ? NO.
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I have some difficulty understanding , but from what I can see you are telling me im using my watch to much? this is not the case. I just got back from work, and in 3 hours of work I lost about 30% of battery. this mean that my watch would be dead after 10 hours of small to none-use of my watch. I always see people talk about how theirs can last 18-24hours on average usage, are these people simply lying?
What do you have install ?
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What do you have install ?
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Insta weather
Skymaster clock
wear battery stats
all the rest is stock.
When im looking at the percentage of the usage of each app by google wear app ( nothing is showing with wear battery stats) it shows this
skymaster : 14%
Screen : 14%
Android wear : 9%
unknown Icon : 7%
Idle : 4%
Bluetooth : 3%
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Try unistall Skymaster and instaweather
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Try unistall Skymaster and instaweather
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I already did try like I said, Ive tried running the watch stock and it was still losing battery life. Ive read somewhere that I need to completely empty my battery a couple of time before getting better?
Yes it will get better battery bit is not magicall remember
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I already did try like I said, Ive tried running the watch stock and it was still losing battery life. Ive read somewhere that I need to completely empty my battery a couple of time before getting better?
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Also, as of right now, I keep losing contact with my watch. Bluetooth is fine and everything since I can change the look of my clock and settings.. but from time to time im losing connection with hangout and it do not send the messages to my watch.......
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Yes it will get better battery bit is not magicall remember
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Yea well, I still have 12 days left to try it and see if it gets better, If not im gonna have to return this watch. I need at least 10 hours.. I mean comon this is ridiculous getting 5 to 8 hours per charge.. Im doing 20 hours of heavy usage on my LG g3 right now so the watch would die on me 3 to 4 time by the time my phone die... this is ridiculous
That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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Thanks for the information! Did you meant skymaster pilot watch face? i bough it for like 1$ but it looks like it is the biggest battery drainer
Lexite said:
Thanks for the information! Did you meant skymaster pilot watch face? i bough it for like 1$ but it looks like it is the biggest battery drainer
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Use the new facer app and watchmaker no battery draining problems here.
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That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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One more tip that works well when you don't need to use your watch at night power it down and back on when you wake up and if you don't need notifications from your watch put it in aeroplane mode that turns bluetooth off big drainer when you need it take it out of aeroplane mode I get nearly 3 days use like this.
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That Skyweather app is incredibly poorly written and eating your battery like crazy! It looks like it's causing wakelocks! UNINSTALL IT! NOW! And don't put it back on your watch, ever!
And you never mentioned what screen settings you are using which can be a huge culprit for battery drain! If you care about battery life:
Do NOT use Ambient Mode!
Do NOT use Auto Brightness!
Set your watch on the lowest #1 brightness and leave it alone. Stop fiddling with it. Stop turning on the screen! I see a LOT of on-screen time! I know it's new and all but it's not a toy.
It's supposed to be for quick glances, not a replacement for your smartphone!
Put the watch into THEATER mode if you find your wrist movements are waking it up far too much and eating battery. Be smart.
Also, YES, fully charge and then fully drain the watch for several days to a week. (Bring your charger to work for this part.)
I did this and my battery is excellent. It worked for me so give it a try.
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Just be aware that theater mode seems to turn off vibrations.
"...If you care about battery life:"? It's good advice, however do you hear yourself? What you are basically saying is "don't use the features, shut it all down and use it only to look at the time (ahem, just get $35 timex if that is the case). That's kinda nuts for a product that is targeted to the general consumer. Motorola (or Lenovo or Google?) have a marginal product here at best. Thats bad because the smartwatch has been with us now for a number of years, the battery should be a lot better - especially at this fairly high price point. How many people have returned the 360 after a few days because the battery life is crap in real world use? I'm going to bet many did, unless they are like us tinkerers, programmers and devs here... Nobody and I mean nobody is going to know to do the the things you have outlined to "save" the battery. Consumers are just going to use it, show it off and load whatever is available on the app store..
I've said it before on these forums and I say it again... We are paying to beta test this watch for Motorola. The battery life is horrific and Motorola know it. It is a "toy" admittedly a cool one at that. But frankly... All of us 1st gen owners who are sticking it out should be getting coupons for a deep discount on gen 2.
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"...If you care about battery life:"? It's good advice, however do you hear yourself? What you are basically saying is "don't use the features, shut it all down and use it only to look at the time (ahem, just get $35 timex if that is the case). That's kinda nuts for a product that is targeted to the general consumer. Samsung have a marginal product here at best. Thats bad because the smartwatch has been with us now for a number of years, the battery should be a lot better - especially at this fairly high price point. How many people have returned the 360 after a few days because the battery life is crap in real world use? I'm going to bet many did, unless they are like us tinkerers, programmers and devs here... Nobody and I mean nobody is going to know to do the the things you have outlined to "save" the battery. Consumers are just going to use it, show it off and load whatever is available on the app store..
I've said it before on these forums and I say it again... We are paying to beta test this watch for Samsung. The battery life is horrific and Samsung know it. It is a "toy" and a cool one at that. But frankly... All of us 1st gen owners who are sticking it out should be getting coupons for a deep discount on gen 2.
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Umm, did you notice that you're in the Motorola Moto 360 forum?
same here i bought it tried to learn or play with the watch all day not all day few hour after it died but i didn't thought it was watch defective or w/e. its my own fault because i turned it on non-stop. i give it a normal usage a day after i bought it pretty much live to 20% on 9 hour on few times changing face theme and showing off to friends lol,, i think this watch will last 15hrs max on any heavy usage. those who said 1 or 2 day they're definitely lying or encouraging people to buy the watch or can be Motorola's hired scum bags
Guys, I am constantly getting at least 40 percent left at the end of my 12 hours day.
Using it for notifications only, as intended, plus some weather checking and replies by voice to incoming messages.
Ambient OFF
Auto brightness ON
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same here i bought it tried to learn or play with the watch all day not all day few hour after it died but i didn't thought it was watch defective or w/e. its my own fault because i turned it on non-stop. i give it a normal usage a day after i bought it pretty much live to 20% on 9 hour on few times changing face theme and showing off to friends lol,, i think this watch will last 15hrs max on any heavy usage. those who said 1 or 2 day they're definitely lying or encouraging people to buy the watch or can be Motorola's hired scum bags
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While that post is pretty much in need of a complete rewrite, I will agree that I have no idea who these people are that are getting 2 days out of there watch on a single charge. I End the day at about 30% which is great, but it would be practically dead by morning if I wouldn't charge it over night.
I use InstaWeather and have no issues on battery life. Have you updated to the latest firmware? I can easily get a full day with plenty of battery life left at the end of the day. I'd return it for a different one. You may have issues. After the first update to 4.4, battery life for everyone went up dramatically.
Why is the battery life so dreadful on Watch Active?
What is going on under the hood to wipe out a full charge in just over 24 hours. Don't tell me its notification, or HR, or WiFi or Bluetooth or location 'cos they are all off. I don't use Pay or Bixby or any 3rd party applications just the basic watch. So is this normal? Do Samsung put cheap rubbish batteries in their watches?
Surely you folks out there don't regard this as normal or acceptable?
My previous watch (and current) is from Huami Amazfit, a Verge Lite. Yes it is very basic, but it does the basics very well and with a battery life of at least 40 days. Plus it costs less than half of what I paid for the Active.
Value for money? Sorry Samsung you lose big time!
Hmm, I guess nobody is interested......
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Hmm, I guess nobody is interested......
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It's happening because Samsung ****ed it up with the latest watch update
https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/Galaxy-Watch-Rapid-Battery-Drain/td-p/727675
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Did you try to reset your watch? Often that helps with this kind of issues after an update.
In the Galaxy Wearable app, what is indicated as the top battery consumer?
Sorry to hear about your issues. I have every single feature turned on except always-on display and I get three days.
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Why is the battery life so dreadful on Watch Active?
What is going on under the hood to wipe out a full charge in just over 24 hours. Don't tell me its notification, or HR, or WiFi or Bluetooth or location 'cos they are all off. I don't use Pay or Bixby or any 3rd party applications just the basic watch. So is this normal? Do Samsung put cheap rubbish batteries in their watches?
Surely you folks out there don't regard this as normal or acceptable?
My previous watch (and current) is from Huami Amazfit, a Verge Lite. Yes it is very basic, but it does the basics very well and with a battery life of at least 40 days. Plus it costs less than half of what I paid for the Active.
Value for money? Sorry Samsung you lose big time!
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Strange, I have Auto-HR every 10 minute, Auto-Wifi, Bluetooth, Location, brightness on level 6, strong vibration on all notifications on all 150 apps installed on phone.
And my watch lasts 4 full days, on every charge since I got it a year ago.
My record is 5 full days, but then I had to lower brightness.
Make a factory reset on the watch asap. The battery life of my gwa2 is EXCELLENT, constant hrm and my battery always lasts for 3-4 days.
I had the same problem with you just a two days after I bought the watch, for some reason one morning the watch started draining the battery like crazy. I made a factory reset and everything is great ever since.
Actually I believe that the battery life on this watch is one of the best out there (except huawei watches that last a lofetime[emoji1787]) I always go wknd trips and I don't even take my charger with me..
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Mine goes well too, around 3 days with location always on, Bluetooth, WiFi on auto, brightness to minimum with auto brightness, and the most informative embedded face watch and constant HR and stress level. But I'm using sleep for android which is quite hard on the battery too.
Speaking of which, I can't configure it for BLE, it doesn't detect the watch, but only the standard Bluetooth.
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Make a factory reset on the watch asap. The battery life of my gwa2 is EXCELLENT, constant hrm and my battery always lasts for 3-4 days.
I had the same problem with you just a two days after I bought the watch, for some reason one morning the watch started draining the battery like crazy. I made a factory reset and everything is great ever since.
Actually I believe that the battery life on this watch is one of the best out there (except huawei watches that last a lofetime[emoji1787]) I always go wknd trips and I don't even take my charger with me..
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Not best out there by miles!
My Amazfit Stratos typically lasts 25 to 30 days (daytime wear only) and my Amazfit Verge Lite (my 24/7) will easily go 40+ days and nights even with continuous HR. I'm staggered you folks think 2-3 days is good. Think about it, after 500 recharges your battery starts to fade - about 15 months for Samsung. You're paying extra big bucks for a very limited device life, thats great for Samsung to keep emptying your pocket!