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Hey.
I've been lurking in this section for about a week now, and from what I can see, people mostly have positive things to say about this phone.
I purchased, from eBay, a Hydrogen model and have constant stutters and lag in the UI/animations.
I have continued to experience this after flashing the "unofficial" Cyanogenmod 13 ROM.
Is it just me? Am I doing something wrong? Really love the massive screen on this thing and don't want to have to return it...
Thanks.
naveedxo said:
Hey.
I've been lurking in this section for about a week now, and from what I can see, people mostly have positive things to say about this phone.
I purchased, from eBay, a Hydrogen model and have constant stutters and lag in the UI/animations.
I have continued to experience this after flashing the "unofficial" Cyanogenmod 13 ROM.
Is it just me? Am I doing something wrong? Really love the massive screen on this thing and don't want to have to return it...
Thanks.
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Can't speak for MIUI but the only CM13 versions I don't have that problem are the two earliest ones v2(6-14-16) and v3(7-5-16) from the guy who left us. All later ones have it on my hydrogen... So yeah you are not alone.
Maybe it's that slow Snapdragon 650. You should've bought a Helium.
I bought one of the first Mi Maxes that showed up on ebay right after china oficial release... Couldn't wait for helium...
PM me one of your cores and we'll have seven each... lol
Ok so I've been doing some research and HAD narrowed my choice on purchasing a NEW G4 (either H811 or H815) off of eBay. That is till I'd ran across some a crap ton of reviews talking about the bootloop and reading that there is no true fix. So I'm curious as to what precautions I should take if I buy the G4? Are the newer ones still having the same problem? Should I even bother with the purchase?
AnotherFreakinNoob said:
Ok so I've been doing some research and HAD narrowed my choice on purchasing a NEW G4 (either H811 or H815) off of eBay. That is till I'd ran across some a crap ton of reviews talking about the bootloop and reading that there is no true fix. So I'm curious as to what precautions I should take if I buy the G4? Are the newer ones still having the same problem? Should I even bother with the purchase?
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Buy, but just bare in mind of the boot loop issue. It's still a great phone even with such as big defect, though if you are looking to root and get custom ROMs get the EUR H815 variants, SEA and other various variants are currently rootable but bootloader locked.
Source: I got a SEA H815 variant and just rooted it, and currently searching for bootloader solutions...
chances are very slim of bootloop but still may happen. i would say go ahead. but if no nougat for us f*** LG.
Appreciate the responses. Especially the tip about buying the European version of the 815. Curious though. I noticed there are custom ROMs for the 811 on the development page? That means its bootloader is unlockable right?
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Appreciate the responses. Especially the tip about buying the European version of the 815. Curious though. I noticed there are custom ROMs for the 811 on the development page? That means its bootloader is unlockable right?
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yes h811 ican be unlocked.. if you in the USA then get the h811. if you in wurope then h815 that can be unlocked not all can.. search google it list of LG G4 that can be unlocked.
I wouldn't recommend it unless if you're into the custom rom scene and getting a unlocked BL phone of course. If it's a locked BL, you'll basically be buying a phone with no more support with a pretty high failure rate. Problem with buying them online is that you don't know if it'll be a newer batch or older one.
I should've clarified better. Yes I plan on using installing a custom ROM once the OS becomes dated. I use Straight Talk and they don't do updates anyway. So I'm guessing it was the older batch of phones they were the main culprit of the bootloop? The one I had my eye from eBay claims the phone is the newest version. Pretty much decided this was the phone for me till I saw the bootloop issue. Kinda leaning towards the HTC M9 now.
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I should've clarified better. Yes I plan on using installing a custom ROM once the OS becomes dated. I use Straight Talk and they don't do updates anyway. So I'm guessing it was the older batch of phones they were the main culprit of the bootloop? The one I had my eye from eBay claims the phone is the newest version. Pretty much decided this was the phone for me till I saw the bootloop issue. Kinda leaning towards the HTC M9 now.
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Check the first 3 digits of the serial. If it starts with 603 or higher you will have a good one . I wouldn't recommend a device where you find something like replaced mainboard or so. It should be really new and untouched.
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Really appreciate the info. Has helped tremendously. One last Q please, does the 603 or higher serial number apply to both the 815 and the 811?
Keep in mind that battery isnt strong if You are average user. I dont play with those kernel tweaks after rooting, so I got no more than 3 hours of screen on time. Usually 2,5 SOT. Also - no nougat as I saw in other posts. So if You want to get ir You will have to root and flash other ROM's to get it....
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Really appreciate the info. Has helped tremendously. One last Q please, does the 603 or higher serial number apply to both the 815 and the 811?
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Yes to both. The higher the better. If you have 608 it means it was manufactured in August 2016. 701 means January 2017.
I have 2 devices with 603 serial on heavy usage.
Ensure you get an unlockable variant because there are h815 variants which cant be unlocked and this is really very recommended for this phone..
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Keep in mind that battery isnt strong if You are average user. I dont play with those kernel tweaks after rooting, so I got no more than 3 hours of screen on time. Usually 2,5 SOT. Also - no nougat as I saw in other posts. So if You want to get ir You will have to root and flash other ROM's to get it....
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Nougat will come . agreed officially by LG !
Q3 this year..
I have 3 to 4 hours SOT but its okay. Main problem is the display drains the most.
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Labs
My girlfriend's G4 died like 4 months ago after a year of use (bootloop) and mine died today a couple of hours ago, it just wont start at all completely dead, after a year and a hafl of use, so, NO you shouldn't. The G2 was a beast and the reason I bought the G4. G4 worst piece of crap I ever had, battery problems a ton, display ghosting after a year of use (both mine and my girlfriend's and we didn't buy it from the same seller nor at the same time). Buying a Galaxy S7 edge next week.
LG G4 is a ticking time bomb. Even if it's "fixed from LG. Don't regret the purchase.
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I tried to unlock bootloader on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 pro. I know that, when you try for the first time, you have to wait 360hr, but for some reason I have to wait 1440hr. Does anyone know why? Could it be that I am on MIUI 10 Beta?
It sounds ridiculous...
http://en.miui.com/thread-3696038-2-1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bnwip/xiaomi_in_a_nutshell/
WHAT? Are they out of their minds? I think that 15 days was already unacceptable but 2 months?? This is more than ridiculous. What are their intentions? To make android a bad replica of iOS? They progressively take back the freedoms that we have been enjoying in it. They are bricking our devices for downgrading, they don't authorize accounts for unbricking and they constantly increase the requested time to unlock bootloader. I'm afraid that at some point, which seems to be not that far, Xiaomi will stop being my brand of choice when it comes to smartphones. And that's bad because I'm not interested in buying a device from any other brand.
No wonder, people unlocking their phones and installing custom roms destroys Xiaomi's business model. TechAltar did a nice episode about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esUOQpKNLsE
I checked this morning and the waiting time went down to 704 hours. I'll keep you updated
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I checked this morning and the waiting time went down to 704 hours. I'll keep you updated
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So one day is equal to 720 hours ???? I think you did some mesh up with your mi account thats why you are seeing 1440 hours to unlock.. keep single mi account in your mobile and bind same account in developer setting
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No wonder, people unlocking their phones and installing custom roms destroys Xiaomi's business model. TechAltar did a nice episode about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esUOQpKNLsE
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they should attack vendor rom installers then. they are the one replacing ads with crazy intrusive ones not from xiaomi.
as people that know how to use custom ROM, should be savvy enough to disable the default apps, or do ads blocking even witohut root
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So one day is equal to 720 hours ???? I think you did some mesh up with your mi account thats why you are seeing 1440 hours to unlock.. keep single mi account in your mobile and bind same account in developer setting
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I only have one account, I didn't do anything strange. With the same account, since it is the only one I have, I checked again this morning, I have no idea why it went down to 704 hours, but I read that it didn't happen only to me
It's all over the forums, you are not the only one...
http://en.miui.com/thread-3701225-1-1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bmb60/1440_hours_to_unlock_redmi_note_5_bootloader/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bnwip/xiaomi_in_a_nutshell/
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It's all over the forums, you are not the only one...
http://en.miui.com/thread-3701225-1-1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bmb60/1440_hours_to_unlock_redmi_note_5_bootloader/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bnwip/xiaomi_in_a_nutshell/
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Yes I read, I was talking about the fact that it went down to 700 hours, but also that has happened to others. Honestly I find this ridiculous..
I received my phone today too and after trying to unlock, I got the 720hrs..
I thought the 15 day wait was bad. Xiaomi can stop using the excuse its to stop sellers putting malicious roms on their devices. This is anti consumer and will put devs off the brand which is terrible for everyone even those whos device is already unlocked
It's to keep people using MIUI, while giving the impression that they're open to custom ROM support.
It is definitely 720 hours now.
My first 3/32 model that I gave to my Fiancee was only 360 when I unlocked it (August 10th requested - August 25th unlocked). Now it looks like I'll be waiting until September 30th to unlock this 4/64gb model. *Sigh* Looks like im installing blockada again to fight Xaiomis damn ads, while using MIUI for the next month. I thought using it for 15 days was bad enough. I miss Lineage already... but at least my Fiancee will be happy.
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I miss Lineage already... but at least my Fiancee will be happy.
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what a person doesn't for love?
This will be my last xiaomi. I will buy oneplus or a Pixel.
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Stupid tutorials like this and youtube tutorials who tell people to unlock your phone send a message to xiaomi that you got fake ROM and want to unlock it to flash original MIUI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ne-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-whyred-unlock-t3778049
Yes stupid tutorials like this probably made them to increase time because people send them the message that they got fake rom but they dont have fake rom.
wow this is something new , glad tht i have already unlocked mine. bad move from xiaomi .
This is ridiculous, 360 hours is the enough but I'm also getting 720 hours...
I got 720 hours too. Until then, i have to remove the bloatwares with adb and use nova launcher.
What do you think? Recently, they increased waiting time to 720h...
I think this is bad practice and unfair. I can understand the waiting time as a mean of stopping ressellers from shady stuff. But it's unfair for people already waiting to be changing the damned clock all the time. I just want to get my awesome rn5 rid of MIUI. I got 360h waiting time. No problem, I was ready to wait. Now all of a sudden they double the time? Bad practice for them. How can I be sure that if I wait a month, the day I finally try to unlock I get a year? Not fair. I was a Xiaomi fan but now I will think twice before buying another one...
Oh really sure, so what phone should I buy to 250$?
Well, i think Xiaomi is not only trying to prevent resellers from flashing global roms on chinese market products but also would like the users to get used to their ecosistem, maybe after one month of usage you will not want to change rom anymore, maybe you'll decide that MIUI is not that bad as you imagined before. The MI A2/ MI A2 Lite have unlockable bootloaders via fastboot, you could get one of these if you don't want to wait. Personally i tried the Mi A2 for one month, it's not a bad phone, but suffers of several problems such as battery drain and pretty small community around it. I decided to send it back and get a Note 5 Global (Pro) for around the same price (10 euro less), since the waiting process is not a deal breaker for me.
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Well, i think Xiaomi is not only trying to prevent resellers from flashing global roms on chinese market products but also would like the users to get used to their ecosistem, maybe after one month of usage you will not want to change rom anymore, maybe you'll decide that MIUI is not that bad as you imagined before. The MI A2/ MI A2 Lite have unlockable bootloaders via fastboot, you could get one of these if you don't want to wait. Personally i tried the Mi A2 for one month, it's not a bad phone, but suffers of several problems such as battery drain and pretty small community around it. I decided to send it back and get a Note 5 Global (Pro) for around the same price (10 euro less), since the waiting process is not a deal breaker for me.
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If you tell me before I buy a Xiaomi phone - to unlock the bootloader you need to wait 1 month, 2 months ... Whatever" - I can live with that. I will wait the time and unlock, no problem.
What is unacceptable for me is having the waiting timer jump up and down randomly. Unlocking becomes a matter of luck and chance. This is not reasonable.
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Oh really sure, so what phone should I buy to 250$?
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Maybe you could buy Asus Zenfone Max Pro series, Nokia 6.1 serises (no free bootloader unlock yet), Oppo K1, Honor 8C (non-rootable), Moto G5s...
Hey guys, I recently purchased a S20 Ultra and am finding it a great phone. However, I've come to realize they've removed the encryption on boot-up feature which I was really looking to use for privacy reasons. I went and asked on the live chat on the Samsung website, and they said it was removed and I would have to "use a third party app or rom" to be able to get back this feature.
I'm now looking into installing a custom ROM and haven't done for many years so I need a bit of help with this, is it just me being stupid, or is there no custom ROM's really released for the S20 Ultra yet? As I've not been able to find one whilst searching.
Also I was curious to if anyone knew a easier way or setting that I could activate that I might have not noticed to be able to activate boot up/start up encryption for the S20?
Thanks in advance
Cazzia
Cazzia said:
Hey guys, I recently purchased a S20 Ultra and am finding it a great phone. However, I've come to realize they've removed the encryption on boot-up feature which I was really looking to use for privacy reasons. I went and asked on the live chat on the Samsung website, and they said it was removed and I would have to "use a third party app or rom" to be able to get back this feature.
I'm now looking into installing a custom ROM and haven't done for many years so I need a bit of help with this, is it just me being stupid, or is there no custom ROM's really released for the S20 Ultra yet? As I've not been able to find one whilst searching.
Also I was curious to if anyone knew a easier way or setting that I could activate that I might have not noticed to be able to activate boot up/start up encryption for the S20?
Thanks in advance
Cazzia
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Hello mate,
No custom ROMs yet I'm afraid. I dont know whether this is a mixture of the crap Exynos variant, price or both. With the OnePlus 8 Pro just launched - i wouldnt hold out for much development for the S20 Ultra.
I believe the S20 line of devices have FBE (File Based Encryption). As such secure boot and the encryption option within settings has been removed.
Their was a guy in here claiming to have created a GSI (Generic System Image) that can be installed on any Google Project Treble device - S20 Ultra included. But His method of getting it installed made no sense whatsoever and he couldn't provide proof that it works and/or boots.
Sorry to "piss on your bonfire" (so to speak) but with the price being too high and the Exynos 990 being so bad - i cant see much development happening for this device. I may be wrong though....time will tell.
Best,
Speedy!!
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Hello mate,
No custom ROMs yet I'm afraid. I dont know whether this is a mixture of the crap Exynos variant, price or both. With the OnePlus 8 Pro just launched - i wouldnt hold out for much development for the S20 Ultra.
I believe the S20 line of devices have FBE (File Based Encryption). As such secure boot and the encryption option within settings has been removed.
Their was a guy in here claiming to have created a GSI (Generic System Image) that can be installed on any Google Project Treble device - S20 Ultra included. But His method of getting it installed made no sense whatsoever and he couldn't provide proof that it works and/or boots.
Sorry to "piss on your bonfire" (so to speak) but with the price being too high and the Exynos 990 being so bad - i cant see much development happening for this device. I may be wrong though....time will tell.
Best,
Speedy!!
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Hey Speedy, thanks for your prompt reply!
Yeah I received the Exynos version from Three UK signing up for a contract, I haven't noticed a massive speed problem but then again I am coming from a Hawei P20 Pro lol. I was told however I was going to receive a snapdragon version from Three, so would you say it's worth putting up a fight to try get the other version?
And thanks for informing me of the current situation regarding custom roms and FBE, I'll have to take a look into that and see to just what extent that covers/what is protects and what (on startup or just generally at the lock screen). Or possibly see if there's any third party apps that are able to lock/encrypt app/app data untill a passcode is entered when opening the app (which would obvousily disable background usage for security reasons I guess, if such a app even exists.)
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Hey Speedy, thanks for your prompt reply!
Yeah I received the Exynos version from Three UK signing up for a contract, I haven't noticed a massive speed problem but then again I am coming from a Hawei P20 Pro lol. I was told however I was going to receive a snapdragon version from Three, so would you say it's worth putting up a fight to try get the other version?
And thanks for informing me of the current situation regarding custom roms and FBE, I'll have to take a look into that and see to just what extent that covers/what is protects and what (on startup or just generally at the lock screen). Or possibly see if there's any third party apps that are able to lock/encrypt app/app data untill a passcode is entered when opening the app (which would obvousily disable background usage for security reasons I guess, if such a app even exists.)
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A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible? Because the snapdragon variant is only sold the USA due a business deal between Qualcomm and Samsung in the early 90s - theirs a massive amount of hoohaa regarding this but long story short - Qualcomm said to Samsung "Yeah, you can use our products in your devices. As long as your sales dont directly compete with ours in our biggest markets" (Europe, Asia etc).
Mate, dont get me wrong - the S20 Ultra is a fantastic phone with solid specs. You'll be well off until your upgrade is due.
FBE is in place from the time your screen is off until you enter your pin/password/biometrics etc. Of course, that leaves the question of - Is FBE in place if no device security is in place? And to that i say I'm not sure my friend.
Is their any particular reason why you need encryption?
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A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible? Because the snapdragon variant is only sold the USA due a business deal between Qualcomm and Samsung in the early 90s - theirs a massive amount of hoohaa regarding this but long story short - Qualcomm said to Samsung "Yeah, you can use our products in your devices. As long as your sales dont directly compete with ours in our biggest markets" (Europe, Asia etc).
Mate, dont get me wrong - the S20 Ultra is a fantastic phone with solid specs. You'll be well off until your upgrade is due.
FBE is in place from the time your screen is off until you enter your pin/password/biometrics etc. Of course, that leaves the question of - Is FBE in place if no device security is in place? And to that i say I'm not sure my friend.
Is their any particular reason why you need encryption?
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"A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible?" Ahhh, this was something I was competently unaware of and just put my faith in they're live chat when they told me I was getting that variant, but I guess I got duped :cyclops:
I guess in terms on encryption, it's just the paranoid view of if I ever lost my phone the possibility of easily getting into my device to view private information and the new/easy software coming out these days to easily extract information from android phones etc. I know with the Pixel you can do boot up security and the older samsungs, just didn't know you couldn't on this one and didn't assume they'd remove such a feature as this is actually my first samsung
They have just told me I'm entitled to a 30 day no questions asked return, so I'm just considering this up to the other devices on they're site as I want to stay with Three because of they're awesome 5G network compared to a lot of others. I guess what I'm just thinking is should I keep a £78 a month phone contract for two years, when I was sold it as to come with a snapdragon processor (which is my own dumb ass fault for not checking I guess haha) The only other one I can see I would maybe swap to is a "Galaxy S10 Plus with Galaxy Watch" which they're doing for £56 a month, making it over £400 saving over 2 years, but there are a lot less features I guess on the S10 Plus than the S20 ultra, would be a bit of a downgrade I guess.
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"A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible?" Ahhh, this was something I was competently unaware of and just put my faith in they're live chat when they told me I was getting that variant, but I guess I got duped :cyclops:
I guess in terms on encryption, it's just the paranoid view of if I ever lost my phone the possibility of easily getting into my device to view private information and the new/easy software coming out these days to easily extract information from android phones etc. I know with the Pixel you can do boot up security and the older samsungs, just didn't know you couldn't on this one and didn't assume they'd remove such a feature as this is actually my first samsung
They have just told me I'm entitled to a 30 day no questions asked return, so I'm just considering this up to the other devices on they're site as I want to stay with Three because of they're awesome 5G network compared to a lot of others. I guess what I'm just thinking is should I keep a £78 a month phone contract for two years, when I was sold it as to come with a snapdragon processor (which is my own dumb ass fault for not checking I guess haha) The only other one I can see I would maybe swap to is a "Galaxy S10 Plus with Galaxy Watch" which they're doing for £56 a month, making it over £400 saving over 2 years, but there are a lot less features I guess on the S10 Plus than the S20 ultra, would be a bit of a downgrade I guess.
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I'm pretty sure a Snapdragon variant from a major UK retailer like Three, Vodafone etc is impossible buddy. I'm sorry.
In terms of extra security - their may be an option available to you. Its called Cerberus. It doesnt require root BUT offers more features if you have it.
Root is available for the S20 Ultra. Go here and take a look mate.
https://www.cerberusapp.com/