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I don't wanna use monstrous VS2010 (which requires .net4 & silverlight4) on my home notebook so I found way to extract Microsoft XDE from "Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone CTP"
Attachment contains "extracted" from the package standalone emulator.
Just unpack attached zip and run sde_xde-enu.msi (if UAC is enabled you should start command promt and execute msiexec /i sde_xde-enu)
In MS terms install is silent so you don't need press "next" or "ok".
After install you find folder "%Program Files%\Microsoft XDE\" with Windows Phone 7 Emulator.
If you install the emulator on win x64 the path to emulator will look like this "%Program Files(x86)%\Microsoft XDE\".
The emulator will be installed both x86 and x64 but it seems that it does not work on x64 systems.
There is no WP7 images in archive so you must download it by yourself (original by M$ or patched version by Dan Ardelean).
Original image of WP7 by M$
Patched image of WP7 by Dan Ardelean mirror
After installing the application and download the file, you can run the emulator using the command:
Code:
"%Program Files%\Microsoft XDE\1.0\XDE.exe" %path_to_downloaded_image%
Despite the fact that it is installed on the XP, it only works on Vista and newer
step by step installation's guide by anarchyuk
So will you need Visual Studio Express Edition and all that jazz to make this work? Or just this installation and the emulator image?
Btw great work
main target was just to use the emulator without installing VS2010
just install this package and add the wp7_image
Works like a charm!! Thanks!
Image file
Thank you for the emulator
How can i get an image, do you have a URL or shared storage?
I've updated the first post with wp7image's URLs
anyone else get this to work?
Thanks for this
tried, but does not work at all:
1) installed from msi
2) run FAR as administrator
3) copied original WM70C1.bin to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft XDE\1.0\"
4) in directory "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft XDE\1.0\" typed:
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XDE.exe WM70C1.bin
and nothing appeared, and no process xde.exe running in task manager
if i type XDE.exe without parameters, it shows its help screen, but if i run with any parameter (even if it is wrong) it shows nothing.
is this problem related only to my machine or somebody else is experiencing this also?
l2tp
hmm.. I've tried many times on different PCs (win vista sp1 and newer but only x86) and I've had no problems..
there is just one problem that I found it will not work on winXP
pm me if you have any IM. it's much easier to me to talk in Russian
hmm again..
i've just test the emulator in the virtual machine with installed w7 x64 - all the symptoms as l2tp described
I'll try to find x64 version tonight
Thanks Sir
I installed this and it does not create the Microsoft XDE folder in program files....I am on Windows 7 x86. No error of anything. It did take a while and gave me a UAC prompt after a while.....
Edit: I enabled logging by running the msi with /log logfile.txt and it said:
vmmmsm_custom: Running custom action CA_InstallVMMDriver
vmmmsm_custom: Error creating VMM service, E = 6
CustomAction CA_InstallVMMDriver.3D2F911E_A60A_4C07_8F7D_5306DC073E9A returned actual error code 1603 (note this may not be 100% accurate if translation happened inside sandbox)
Action ended 17:11:12: InstallFinalize. Return value 3.
vmmmsm_custom: Running custom action CA_RemoveVMMDriver
vmmmsm_custom: There was an error stopping the VMM service. Run setup again after manually stopping the VMM service. (error code 6)
vmmmsm_custom: There was an error deleting the VMM service. The service has not been deleted. (error code 6)
I guess it is a problem with my machine with the virtual machine driver, but there seems to be no service...
today I'd installed CLEAN win vista sp2 business x86 on the virtual machine and then tested this emulator - all works fine but very slow
one more update - this installer conflicts with UAC (m$ suxxs one more time..)
if you install the full version of the VS2010 UAC's request appears at the beginning and everything is installed properly
but if you only install the emulator, then:
If UAC enabled installer says "all fine" but emulator doesn't install (see post hsclate)
If UAC disabled installer says "all fine" and emulator installs
Thanks working now....you don;t have to disable UAC if you don't want to, just run an elevated command prompt and run from there, then it installed. Thanks for the pointer...
l2tp said:
tried, but does not work at all:
1) installed from msi
2) run FAR as administrator
3) copied original WM70C1.bin to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft XDE\1.0\"
4) in directory "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft XDE\1.0\" typed:
Code:
XDE.exe WM70C1.bin
and nothing appeared, and no process xde.exe running in task manager
if i type XDE.exe without parameters, it shows its help screen, but if i run with any parameter (even if it is wrong) it shows nothing.
is this problem related only to my machine or somebody else is experiencing this also?
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Same Problem for me here.
Running Win7 Professional x64
En1gma said:
hmm again..
i've just test the emulator in the virtual machine with installed w7 x64 - all the symptoms as l2tp described
I'll try to find x64 version tonight
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Please work hard for the 64bit version, thanks really for this genius work.
Saw this emu-rip to late damn... After uninstalling all the "Microsoft Virtual Studio + I don't know how many crap from what Virtual Studio refused to uninstall via 'Programs and Features' so removed it kind of manually" the sde_xde-enu does not work anymore. While all that bullcrap was installed it actually did work...(@W7 x64)
damn rapid share thought it was extinct.
l2tp +1 confirmed
Yesterday I tried to install VS2010 on win7 pro x64 and it seems that there is no x64 version of vs2010. Because the download is the same version as downloaded on win vista hp sp2.
One way to start custom executabled in windows phone 7 is following method:
1) create a exe file that runs in phone
2) create a zip file and put exe inside
3) upload zip file to some internetpage and create .html page for it with <a href.. link for it.
4) navigate to the page with phone IE.
5) when clicking the link the phone can open the zip file and display its contents (tap to open the file ...zip)
6) when clicking the .exe file the phone asks are you sure you want to run
(The program ...exe is from an unknown publisher. Running it could harm your phone. Do you want to continue?)
7)enjoy your homebrews
will this also work on a phone that isn't developer unlocked ?
if that is right than this is the ultimate way to jailbreak a wp7 phone
Never-mind
Nope, he isn't, and described above method works (I guess because of MS ZipView executable bug). But I can't get my apps running, probably because they are not compatible with CE 7.0 and WP7 .Net (I've tried CE 6.0 native code and .NET code).
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Nope, he isn't, and described above method works (I guess because of MS ZipView executable bug). But I can't get my apps running, probably because they are not compatible with CE 7.0 and WP7 .Net (I've tried CE 6.0 native code and .NET code).
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is your phone developer unlocked ?
Yes, unlocked.
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Yes, unlocked.
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**** bummer , do you have a web link to that test file of yours then I can try it my phone is locked
xttp://home.comcast.net/~sergsv/
There are two links to zip archives at the left top corner of the page. I can't run these files but MS zip archiver open these zips and asked to run
yes man this is working on a locked phone
now we need some code that works to test this
lets say an .exe that run the file explorer
yes. right now we don't know whether the apps are opened at all. Are the managed Apps in VS compiled into an exe? Maybe we could extract one from an xap for testing purposes...
Silverlight XAPs use XAMLs and DLLs, no EXEs involved I'm afraid.
Hmm yes you're right. Are there extracted executables from the leaked Mondrian ROM?
There are, but they are not GUI apps, they look mainly like command line executables provided by Qualcomm, and some of them look like they could mess up your phone if you don't know what you're doing.
There are some GUI apps, but they come disassembled. I've been trying to assemble them but haven't had much luck yet.
Neat. I shall put together a sample application to test this. (I have Visual Studio 2010 configured to pump out CE7 native executables.)
I think the executable run is blocked. They left typical MS (say - stupid) dialog box but, I believe, ignore the user input...
However the Word and Excel documents can be opened this way.
I tried a few things -- rebooting the phone, crashing the program with invalid pointers, and launching some known executables. Nothing. I even signed my executable with a valid certificate; It still claims unknown publisher.
Wonder if this is some left over dialog as mentioned by sensboston
WithinRafael said:
I tried a few things -- rebooting the phone, crashing the program with invalid pointers, and launching some known executables. Nothing. I even signed my executable with a valid certificate; It still claims unknown publisher.
Wonder if this is some left over dialog as mentioned by sensboston
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The dialog will be hidden by the shell. You need to add your cert into the phone, email it, resign your app and try it again.
It's possible it'll work.
this will only work with MSFT signed exe's.
walshieau said:
this will only work with MSFT signed exe's.
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I tried with both my signed executable (with Root CA cert installed) and a Microsoft executable. Neither show signs of execution.
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT
Thats all I want to say
windowsrtc said:
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT
Thats all I want to say
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Anyone tried it yet? Looks like a risky process.
windowsrtc said:
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT
Thats all I want to say
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Thanks. Unfortunately, what I gather from what I'm reading is that that image does not contain drivers. You need to manually add the drivers to the image before you install. If you don't, you'll brick your tablet, according to WZT. People may want wait a little bit until there are clear directions and a few people who can verify that they worked (i.e. that they installed 8.1 without any problems).
Additional note: It sounds like the driver package is only for the Surface RT, so users with other Windows RT tablets (ex. ASUS VivoTab RT) may brick their tablets if they try to use it. They'll have to wait until someone releases a driver package for their model (which WZT says might have to be taken from the Preview build).
Osprey00 said:
Even more unfortunately, while WZT has teased info about the driver package, they haven't actually leaked it yet.
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This part isn't actually true, for what it's worth- it's included with the main download.
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This part isn't actually true, for what it's worth- it's included with the main download.
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Oh, OK. I didn't catch that. They made it appear as though it was a separate download. Ah, you're right: there they are.
just run setup.exe
all drivers for surface are build in
BTW:I have rollback to 8.0 again
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...users with other Windows RT tablets (ex. ASUS VivoTab RT) may brick their tablets if they try to use it.
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It is very difficult to brick an RT device. You can always recover it if you can boot to USB, and you have a recovery image and familiar with windows command line tools (diskpart, dism and so on).
Unfortunatley I'm on a business trip and can't create an upgrade instruction for VivoTab users. But there is nothing difficult - as we already have all needed drivers on a recovery partition, and all you need - just insert them into WIM using the Wzor's instructions from his original post on ru-board.
Installed this tonight. Note that drivers are NOT included in the iso from Wzor.
Extract boot.wim and install.wim from Wzor's iso, inject Wzor's RTM drivers via dism, commit, put boot.wim and install.wim with drivers back into iso, image to USB drive. I installed from within RT using setup (keeping nothing).
You have to use the default key on installation. You need to find out your actual RT key before you do this otherwise you end up with a non-activated RT 8.1 and no key. Export DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 from HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion and obtain your key. Instructions on how to here.
Works great. In the short amount of time I've been testing everything works perfectly OK, including all my accessories. (discussion here).
mamaich said:
It is very difficult to brick an RT device. You can always recover it if you can boot to USB, and you have a recovery image and familiar with windows command line tools (diskpart, dism and so on).
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I figured as much, but not everyone may have the recovery image or the knowledge, and, for them, a dead device that they're unable to recover is as good as a brick. Regardless, I just wanted to pass along the same language that WZT used so that I'm not guilty of misrepresenting the risks or responsible if someone can't fix what he got himself into.
derausgewanderte said:
Installed this tonight. Note that drivers are NOT included in the iso from Wzor.
Extract boot.wim and install.wim from Wzor's iso, inject Wzor's RTM drivers via dism, commit, put boot.wim and install.wim with drivers back into iso, image to USB drive. I installed from within RT using setup (keeping nothing).
You have to use the default key on installation. You need to find out your actual RT key before you do this otherwise you end up with a non-activated RT 8.1 and no key. Export DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 from HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion and obtain your key. Instructions on how to here.
Works great. In the short amount of time I've been testing everything works perfectly OK, including all my accessories. (discussion here).
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Thanks for your instructions and verifying that it works. The original instructions don't mention writing down your current key first. While I likely would've done that anyways, it's re-assuring to see it in writing, just in case. I might give this a go tomorrow.
FYI, there's now an ISO with the Surface RT drivers baked in, so that users don't have to use DISM to add them manually. The release name is:
DRIVERS FOR SURFACE RT ONLY___MICROSOFT WINDOWS RT 8 1 WITH OFFICE 2013 RT RTM WOA ENGLISH DVD-WZT
Note that it's only for the Surface RT, not other RT tablets.
Also note that you need the installation key, and, also, before installation, you need to export and decrypt your retail 8.0 key. Information on that is available here
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Also note that you need the installation key, and, also, before installation, you need to export and decrypt your retail 8.0 key. Information on that is available here
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and here is the direct link to Osprey00's post with a way of getting the key if you only have your RT.
Good news!
I'll just wait till some skillful surface owner gets the jailbreak and then update!
huslterose said:
Good news!
I'll just wait till some skillful surface owner gets the jailbreak and then update!
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[EDIT: Never mind. I misunderstood.]
I don't follow. There's nothing to "jailbreak" and it can't get much easier than it is now (outside of simply waiting until Microsoft rolls out 8.1 via Automatic Updates). You just follow instructions to find out your 8.0 key, install the 8.1+drivers ISO (not the one in the OP; the one that I listed a few posts up) with a general installation key, then activate 8.1 with your 8.0 key.
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I don't follow. There's nothing to "jailbreak" and it can't get much easier than it is now (outside of simply waiting until Microsoft rolls out 8.1 via Automatic Updates). You just follow instructions to find out your 8.0 key, install the 8.1+drivers ISO (not the one in the OP; the one that I listed a few posts up) with a general installation key, then activate 8.1 with your 8.0 key.
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I think he is referring to the lack of jailbreak on 8.1 for unsigned desktop apps - a feature which should have been in the OS from the start, instead microsoft wasted time patching the exploit the jailbreak used and destroyed the usefulness of the tablet for some.
He was probably intending to say something along the lines of him not updating to 8.1 until after someone makes a new jailbreak for it.
If you can live without the jailbreak, thats fine. Windows store is a bit too limited in my opinion, but it will grow (still gutted they blocked access to both localhost for network connections and COM ports in windows apps though).
SixSixSevenSeven said:
I think he is referring to the lack of jailbreak on 8.1 for unsigned desktop apps - a feature which should have been in the OS from the start, instead microsoft wasted time patching the exploit the jailbreak used and destroyed the usefulness of the tablet for some.
He was probably intending to say something along the lines of him not updating to 8.1 until after someone makes a new jailbreak for it.
If you can live without the jailbreak, thats fine. Windows store is a bit too limited in my opinion, but it will grow (still gutted they blocked access to both localhost for network connections and COM ports in windows apps though).
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Ah! Gotcha. It slipped my mind that the jailbreak for unsigned apps not working in 8.1 is a valid reason for not upgrading, so I was thinking that he was waiting for something to make the upgrade, itself, even easier. Thanks for the clarification.
@Osprey00 - is there a direct link perhaps
aooga said:
Could someone please post instructions on how to decrypt the registry values? The link that was posted is down. Thanks.
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Sure. There are a few different ways to do it. In order of simplest to most complicated...
METHOD 1 - Can be done solely from Windows RT (any version):
1. Follow these instructions to create a batch file.
2. Run the batch file on the tablet to get your key.
3. Either write the key down or right-click anywhere in the window, select Mark, highlight the key, right-click again (which will copy the key to the clipboard), paste the key into a text file and then copy that text file to another computer or backup drive.
4. Optional, but recommended: Check that the key is valid by inputting it into a key checker, such as The Ultimate PID Checker. If it tells you that the key is invalid, then try one of the other two methods.
METHOD 2 - Requires regular, non-RT Windows (XP/Vista/7/8):
1. In RT, open the charms bar, click Search, enter "Regedit" and run Regedit.
2. Export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion to a .reg file.
3. Copy that .reg file to your non-RT Windows.
4. On your non-RT Windows (all remaining steps will be done there), right-click the .reg file and choose Edit. Change "CurrentVersion" to "CurrentVersionRT". Re-save the file.
5. Double-click on the .reg file and import it.
6. Download and install WinTK.
7. Run WinTK, paste "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersionRT" (without quotes) into the field and press the Decrypt button.
*If, for some reason, WinTK won't run, you can try this: download and unzip Produkey, run Regedit, export your CurrentVersion key to a backup .reg file, change the key name in your RT .reg file from "CurrentVersionRT" back to "CurrentVersion", remove all values in your RT .reg file except for DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 (make sure that they're NOT the ones under the DefaultProductKey sub-branch), import that (thus overwriting your Windows key with your Windows RT key), run Produkey, write down the Product Key, then import the backup .reg file to restore your Windows key (important, obviously).
8. Write down the product key.
9. Optional, but recommended: Check that the key is valid by inputting it into a key checker, such as The Ultimate PID Checker. If it tells you that the key is invalid, then try one of the other two methods.
10. Optional: Open Regedit again and delete the CurrentVersionRT key, just to clean up.
METHOD 3 - Can be done solely from Windows RT, but only on 8.0 (won't work on 8.1 Preview or 8.1 RTM) and is more complicated than Method 1:
1. Download and unzip the RT jailbreak tool.
2. Run RunExploit.bat. Choose 'R' from the menu. Let it finish, then press any key when it asks you to.
3. Download and install Win86emu.
4. Download and unzip Produkey.
5. Open the charms bar, click Search, enter "Regedit" and run Regedit.
6. Export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion to a .reg file.
7. Find the Win86emu tile (icon is "x86") on your Start screen, flick down on it to bring up the options bar and tap Open File Location... or, at the Desktop, you can browse to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\StartMenu\Programs\win86emu.
8. Double-tap the "x86 Registry Editor" shortcut.
9. In that registry editor, import the .reg file that you exported in step 4. This will import the settings into the special x86 registry that the emulator created when you installed it and which all x86 programs (including Produkey) will think is the real registry.
10. Double-tap the "Run x86 Program" shortcut.
11. Browse to and select the produkey.exe that you unzipped in step 2.
12. Find the Product Key listed for Windows in the window that appears and write it down. If nothing appears, click on Select Source and verify that it's searching the local computer (top-most radio button).
13. Optional, but recommended: Check that the key is valid by inputting it into a key checker, such as The Ultimate PID Checker. If it tells you that the key is invalid, then try one of the other two methods.
If one method doesn't seem to work for you, try one of the others.
Osprey00 said:
Sure. There are a few different ways to do it. I'll describe two...
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Hopefully, I didn't forget any steps from either of those methods.
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Thanks!. Now just waiting to download the iso. Its taking an age.
EDIT: mydigitallife was hacked...thats why the links are down.
aooga said:
Thanks!. Now just waiting to download the iso. Its taking an age.
EDIT: mydigitallife was hacked...thats why the links are down.
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thanks for the info. was about to search for reasons. hacked by MS?
derausgewanderte said:
thanks for the info. was about to search for reasons. hacked by MS?
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Yeah I was clueless why it wasn't working, so I just looked at their facebook page.
Would putting a link like this on XDA be considered warez? If not, can someone who has already downloaded the ISO with drivers upload it somewhere? There is no way I'm waiting till Oct. 16
Hi,
I would like to ask about windows 8 apps
Is that possible to download and install apps other than the windows store?
Thanks for helping:highfive:
JackyJC said:
Hi,
I would like to ask about windows 8 apps
Is that possible to download and install apps other than the windows store?
Thanks for helping:highfive:
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If you are running Windows 8/8.1 RT, no.
If you are running Windows 8/8.1 Pro, yes.
mattman86 said:
If you are running Windows 8/8.1 RT, no.
If you are running Windows 8/8.1 Pro, yes.
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Hi,
Is it as easy as android like just tap on the app download and install?
JackyJC said:
Hi,
Is it as easy as android like just tap on the app download and install?
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No. It requires you to have a Microsoft developers license registered with that machine (free to do) and installation of apps is also done via powershell.
Contrary to the above, you can sideload on RT.
The only real question is why? There isnt a market in downloading non store apps yet.
I think @mattman86 was referring to desktop software, rather than "modern" apps. He's still wrong, since you can use the jailbreak on RT 8.0 and then use desktop programs easily (instruction set architecture permitting), but you are correct that you can sideload "modern" apps, including or RT and on 8.1, pretty easily if you want to.
Powershell (as Admin): Show-WindowsDeveloperLicenseRegistration (you can type "show-w" and then hit Tab and it will auto-complete).
Hit Enter and follow the instructions. You can use any Microsoft account, even a throw-away created for the purpose, to do the registration.
To install an app package (.APPX file), you can do it manually via Powershell but it's a *lot* easier to run the .PS1 script that should come with the .APPX. That script will take care of all the steps for you, in order, easily.
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I think @mattman86 was referring to desktop software, rather than "modern" apps. He's still wrong, since you can use the jailbreak on RT 8.0 and then use desktop programs easily (instruction set architecture permitting), but you are correct that you can sideload "modern" apps, including or RT and on 8.1, pretty easily if you want to.
Powershell (as Admin): Show-WindowsDeveloperLicenseRegistration (you can type "show-w" and then hit Tab and it will auto-complete).
Hit Enter and follow the instructions. You can use any Microsoft account, even a throw-away created for the purpose, to do the registration.
To install an app package (.APPX file), you can do it manually via Powershell but it's a *lot* easier to run the .PS1 script that should come with the .APPX. That script will take care of all the steps for you, in order, easily.
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Thank you so much for that info master!!! Do you know, where to get some "metro"-apps without WindowsStore?
Are there any open-source or freeware appx or can we only take self-developed ones?
Can we take those .appx files from our already downloaded apps from store?
If i remember correctly either
Code:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\AppRepository
or
Code:
C:\Program Files\WindowsApps
Cheers
Blade
You can occasionally find homebrew apps here on XDA - the early versions of the Jailbreak tool for RT relied on one, for example - but I'm not aware of any large collection of them. If it's possible to re-construct .APPX files from the installed system (probably), it is something I have never attempted and have little interest in. Too much potential for piracy, too little reward.
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You can occasionally find homebrew apps here on XDA - the early versions of the Jailbreak tool for RT relied on one, for example - but I'm not aware of any large collection of them. If it's possible to re-construct .APPX files from the installed system (probably), it is something I have never attempted and have little interest in. Too much potential for piracy, too little reward.
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I just thought about freeware-appx from the store, but sadly you are right, this info could lead into the wrong direction...
The world would be *such* a nicer place if people could just be counted on to be ethical...
Just want to flash TWRP and root sm-t700 using linux anyone tried this?
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Want this also. No Windows available here at home nor at work.
Thanks All
I'm also a Linux only PC user but have concluded that l have two options. One is a Windows Virtualbox environment using an old Windows OS (e.g. XP, Vista) that I own. My concern with this option is the reliability of the VM's USB connection. I have used it successfully to update firmware on a TV remote but would be more cautious in an activity which may brick an expensive device.
The more reliable option is to use a USB Hard drive bay and an old unused 30-40GB hard drive (Sata or IDE) or a 32-64GB bootable USB flash drive to install a Windows OS and boot off it just when up need Odin or KIES 3.
All of my research and reading conclude that Heidelberg and/or the Java alternative combined with recent Samsung devices are not ready yet so these other options are safer and faster to set up and use at this time.
If you do not presently have a copy of a Windows OS you likely can find a friend who has a old unused XP CD lying around.
Up to a week ago when I bought my Tab S I only had Nexus devices (10 and 5) so their Linux ADB capability made any firmware changes a breeze. Too bad Google does not enforcement ADB as a standard. Let OEM's put out their own KIES equivalents, as much of that functionality can be worked around anyway (e.g. network shares).
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I'm also a Linux only PC user but have concluded that l have two options. One is a Windows Virtualbox environment using an old Windows OS (e.g. XP, Vista) that I own. My concern with this option is the reliability of the VM's USB connection. I have used it successfully to update firmware on a TV remote but would be more cautious in an activity which may brick an expensive device.
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The way I understand it (I might be horribly wrong is that you should be ok if all you're going to do is to flash a custom recovery, not an entire ROM since only the recovery partition would be affected.
If you do not presently have a copy of a Windows OS you likely can find a friend who has a old unused XP CD lying around.
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There are actually legal ways of downloading Windows for free. One is to download a copy from Microsoft itself. Google for "Windows evaluation copy". This will get you a perfectly free copy of Windows 8.1. The only catch, besides the need to register and give some personal info, is that your Windows installation will time out after 30 days, which should be more than enough time to flash a custom recovery onto your Android device.
I've also heard of a probably legal way to download a copy of Windows 7 from a licensed online distributor. This was supposed to be a backup copy of the OEM version (for those who lost or damaged their Windows installer), which needs to be activated with a valid key. However, you can run your Windows install without activation also for 30 days.
Speaking of legal, I'm actually more concerned about the legality of Odin. Does anybody have any idea who authored the software?
Odin is samsungs official software.
Microsoft also has VM images for download, which are meant for testing Internet Explorer versions... They also have limited lifetime, but if you want a VM it's a faster option.
Too lazy to Google for the url, cause I'm on the phone and all
EDIT: http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/
Real or virtual Windows is the only way to go. Heimdall or anything that uses its code doesn't work on the tab s.
fred_be9300 said:
Microsoft also has VM images for download, which are meant for testing Internet Explorer versions... They also have limited lifetime, but if you want a VM it's a faster option.
Too lazy to Google for the url, cause I'm on the phone and all
EDIT: http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/
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Seems to be the better option if you don't want to bother with the process of virtual disk setup and OS installation. Like you said it's also a much smaller download if you choose the IE6 on XP VM (1GB vs. the 3GB+ needed for Windows 7/8). But does the VM copy actually provide USB access? I'm asking because I usually use KVM/QEMU rather than VirtualBox, which is quite hard to set up from the command line compared to KVM.
Gondwanaland said:
But does the VM copy actually provide USB access?
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I don't know. I guess that's depends more on the features of the VM player software (VMware, kvm, VirtualBox, ..) than on the VM. I've never tried using USB within a VM.
fred_be9300 said:
I don't know. I guess that's depends more on the features of the VM player software (VMware, kvm, VirtualBox, ..) than on the VM. I've never tried using USB within a VM.
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USB's working fine. I just checked with the IE8 on WinXP image for Virtualbox, which I ran under KVM! Tip for KVM users the zip archive contains a file with an .ova extension. This appears to be a standard Unix tar archive that in turn contains two files with .vdmk and .ovf extensions. The .vdmk file is the Virtualbox image that you can run through KVM in read-only mode. If you want to save changes, you need to convert the image to KVM's native qcow2 format. Note: I only tested if Odin can recognize a Samsung device is connected. I haven't actually tried flashing an image, yet.
Gondwanaland said:
... Note: I only tested if Odin can recognize a Samsung device is connected. I haven't actually tried flashing an image, yet.
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If you attempt to flash please post your results either way, thanks.
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Successful Odin flashing from a Virtualbox VM
I have successfully flashed Samsung stock firmware to a SM-T800 from a Virtualbox Windows 7 VM guest with Odin v3.10 and a Ubuntu 14.04 host. The guide is general to Windows VMs. I set up both an XP and Windows 7 which had both KIES3 and Odin v3.10 access to the SM-T800 but only flashed with the Win7 VM.
[How-To] Linux, Virtualbox and ODIN for your Samsung device
Also I rooted without tripping KNOX using this guide:
[GUIDE] How to root without tripping knox - Kitkat and Lollipop, Locked bootloader
It's also quite easy to create a bootable version of Windows on a usb drive.
Use Heimdall, worked for me
lucasavalos said:
Just want to flash TWRP and root sm-t700 using linux anyone tried this?
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I just installed TWRP 3.1.1; then Lineage 14.1
Here's my setup:
Target: SM-T700
Workstation: Arch Linux, system update 2011-11-11
Heimdall 1.4.2
Run heimdall command line as root, one command per boot works and if I got an error I needed to unplug the battery to get another successful command
Try
Code:
#heimdall print-pit
and if that works and reboots your device then
Code:
#heimdall flash --RECOVERY twrp-3.1.1-0-klimtwifi.img --no-reboot
Then unplug the battery, boot straight to recovery; failing recovery boot on first try overwrites your TWRP recovery image.
Good luck!
Unplug the battery? On a T700? Interesting lol.