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In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
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http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
confusedfella said:
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
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no way man! telus just released a version of the defy a couple of months ago.we've got at least two more years of love coming!
i am hoping as well... but here in indonesia, not even gingerbread
There's absolutely no point in getting excited till there's even confirmation of getting Gingerbread.
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
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In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
Source:
http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont expect an official version of ice cream for my defy, Just hope Quarx or some other developer would be able to port i.. I'm sure my defy would be compatible for ice cream as well..
Cederic said:
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
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Man you said the right situation in motorola process , BUT even if they didn't release it for defy , they might unlock the bootloader, like samsung galaxy S2.
tAKE lOOK Here:
Samsung Sends Free Galaxy S2 To Hackers For Inspiration
According to the company, it has already sent a free Galaxy S2 to the CyanogenMod team as part of the plan.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/13/samsung-sends-free-galaxy-s2-hackers-inspiration/#8
so i hope we can wait for something cool later time.
It's still possible, when CyanogenMod 8 comes...
Maybe this?
Ok so maybe Motorola will launch a new Defy. This time more powerful. So we will buy it and have that with running Android 4 and this one as an old phone with CM version of the new Android tweaked for it.
I personally use 2 phones. Primary smartphone Defy and secondly a phone only Nokia (no camera, radio, internet). But i would like using 2 smartphones. Actually that is the future. So in my case i can wait for a Defy2 and than keep this as well
Keep in mind that a smartphone's life is somewhere between 2-4 years. Battery/hardware and software wise . But who knows the Defy can prove even more resistant ....
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This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release!
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The current fragmentation issue has nothing to do with Tablet and Handset form factors. I understood fragmentation is about manufacturers putting too much layers on top of OS to make their own version of Android i.e. Sense, TouchWhiz, Motorla, and so on.
User experience is a science, now imagine how much damage these manufacturers do to an OS that no one would want to learn how to use them. That is why many people would want to use handsets from the same manufacturer. Android introduced a new market and after few years everyone involved realising the cons and pros of it as no one had the experience working in such market model before.
My prediction is... Most manufacturers will give up putting their own layers for three main reasons:
1. Manufactures eventually can't catch up with the progress of Android's development and it would become a complex and expensive process to have.
2. The cost of hardware will significantly will be reduced, that means smaller manufactures giving stock Android start stealing market from the big boys.
3. Future Android versions would become rich in user experience that the cost of putting layers on top of already a rich interface is no longer justifiable.
and hopefully with this, release of OS will be much faster due to the more vanilla usage of Android instead of each company spending time and money on 'fragmenting' the OS....and devs like the MIUI and CM guys (plus all the other solo devs) can start porting it over much faster and easier.....and leave the fragmenting and customising to the community!
true
but if each developer releasing their own os like miui and cmd and etc you will never have stability in the os.
thats why i always stick to the official os.
((consider Camera issues and AGps fixes plus notworking parts in os properly))
Ice Cream Sandwich will be released this October/November.. There's even a Nexus S shipped on EBay which has ICS!!!!! Here it is!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pb6IyFvfg&feature=player_embedded
I'm really hoping to see it on Motorola Defy!!
Btw I noticed that all Android versions have a codename based on deserts..
Cupcake 1.5
Donut 1.6
Eclair (a cake) 2.1
Froyo (frozen yogurt) 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Honeycomb 3.0
Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4/4.0
lol
I think there will be a custom rom, but i don´t think we get it official.
Sorry for my bad English!
Julian
I don't think T-Mobile US Defy owners will ever see an official Gingerbread update, or anyone else for that matter.
Why would Motorola put one out when Defy+ is here? Defy team was moved to working on Defy+ long ago, that's why we still have a buggy official Froyo. They're just not working on Defy any longer.
They re-released the Defy calling it a Defy+ for the sake of a Gingerbread update. What makes you think they wont do the same for ICS. And ofcourse the Defy wont even get Gingerbread forget ICS.
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there is no question of getting official GB update in future. But I m sure there will be CM8 for defy
Anyway, CM8 sounds way better than a crappy ICS released by Motorola .
cannot w8 4 the ICS . even if our defy will not get an ICS update i'll buy a new phone
Does anybody know, about porting this wp7 build, for our devices, if it possible, or not, waiting for answers, thank's.It will be the better than porting Android(which is so hard to do)
Porting wp7 is way harder,you don't have source,you are out of the minimal requirements and you don't even have enough nand..
Android is much more doable..
hi.
we have new htc diamond and I want to ask if is available Android for this phone!
Thank you!
don't dream about that
It's possible but it must be not that easy than Android and it must be really so hard and it takes more a long times to development. I'm sure someday there'll be someone will do that in XDA-Dev.......
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It's possible but it must be not that easy than Android and it must be really so hard and it takes more a long times to development. I'm sure someday there'll be someone will do that in XDA-Dev.......
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I don't think it'll ever come to the htc touch diamond, cause it's like putting android on a Samsung E900 or something, no-one iswaiting on that
Android might eventually be available for NAND on Diamond but my guess is WP7 will never be ported.. Android is just the better OS out of them all
Android had a slow start with coming to the world of mobile operating systems and the G1 was a superb example of what can be achieved. Since then Android has rocketed to the top of the charts and is now running on almost all new devices. Being open source there are a variety of different builds and mods, Including a vast growing number of apps coming to the market
In my opinion Apple will have to do something spectacular with its OS to become the #1 OS again
Come on, think about it, The Diamond struggles to run WM6.5, hell it struggles to run 6.1 sometimes
You really think it will run WP7 ? lol Not a chance
Exactly. And even if it does run it, the battery life is just not enough..
I have TWO 1340mAh batteries and I sometime drain them both in one day!
The 900mAh stock is not enough for half a day for me lol
Although running android 2.3 through haret, I get over a day with the 1340 battery... and its very smooth so having it on NAND it would last a lot longer and I imagine would be somewhat more smooth than what it is now
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Why would you want to downgrade? There is no "Windows Mobile 7" port for Diamond because nobody wants useless crap on their smartphone.
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As many of you may have noticed, google android gave excellent news for L (4.5 or 5.0) has a new interface, new keyboard, ART runtime, Project Volta and endless deployments to the system, from my point of view, this will be, so far, the update with more changes to date, and I see a great future in android.
Q - What is your opinion about this update?
Q - Our Optimus G will be able to get this update? (Obviously not by LG)
I make this post since no one around here seems excited as I am
Write your review below :highfive:
Sorry my bad english, I'm using the google translator
i think its a really good update, the change from android 2.3 to 4.0 was good but android 4.0 was sad too much black, too serious. this version reminds me of samsung : childlish colors, big things... i would like a more serious os but whatev... im really excited about that update i think its gonna be good, I want it!
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i think its a really good update, the change from android 2.3 to 4.0 was good but android 4.0 was sad too much black, too serious. this version reminds me of samsung : childlish colors, big things... i would like a more serious os but whatev... im really excited about that update i think its gonna be good, I want it!
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that's true, black is not it look bad, but bored after a while, for me, the new look is "solid", and most of all simple, I'm excited, because maybe, improving performance and the battery life due to ART, is significantly better than kitkat
There is also a reason y black has been chosen..to reduce t battry consumption...also it wrks well in case of amoled screens...
I like the L look but I also like the new LG interface from the G3. Remember you will get most of the L features as updated Google apps roll out. Once the Nexus 4 has this update it will be pretty straightforward to get it on the Optimus G. But I think the best solution for this phone will be: official KK, root and theme to get G3 features, and use the redesigned Google apps as they come out.
I'm expecting CM12 late this year. The new UI looks great.
Surprised to see so many excited for ART.
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But I think the best solution for this phone will be: official KK, root and theme to get G3 features, and use the redesigned Google apps as they come out.
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Absolutely agree with this. I'd say not necessarily the official KK, but stock-based, like Sling or VDT. Personally, I don't like the L look, from what I've seen. Some components are just plain ugly, for example, the keyboard. To each their own, I guess...
As for ART, the dealbreaker for me is Xposed. When it starts supporting ART, it will make sense to upgrade. Until then, no.
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There is also a reason y black has been chosen..to reduce t battry consumption...also it wrks well in case of amoled screens...
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Well, for LCD screens, the difference is very marginal, if not negligible, since the backlight is the main power sucker. Only AMOLED will give you a measureable power saving when using black.
I hope Android L, as I read in the forum the nexus 5, the battery life has drastically improved, 2h SOT (Screen on Time) to 4 + to some users says 7 hours of screen time
and overall performance is more buttery and solid
I'm excited, hopefully developers porting nexus 4 to achieve, then our talented developers can port it to Optimus G
Excuse my bad English, I'm using google translator
I love the professional UI. I'd love to have a stock Android L experience if it ever comes to O.G
In my opinion the core experience and visual changes are improvements and to the regular Joe they might seem ok but I'm concerned about the hability we will have to modify this new version. Seems to me Google is locking it Down some to make it more "secure" and now it will be using Knox tech on that front. If we start getting qFuses ala Samsung we are going to have a hard time modding out devices it's not going to be impossible but very hard. Look at the Verizon and AT&T latest Samsung Models, they just now got rooted and beyond rooting custom roms might be possible but kernels and recoverys will be very very hard with the locked Boot loaders. And Google now wants to be like Apple and lock it all down. That part I don't like.
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No, they may want to lock the source. Tho, you can run any modification you want, if you know how to do it. In 1.5 it was a hell harder than it is today. So seeing people complaining about being hard to put a mod because you have to move stuff through folders, give permissions, and use a terminal, make me incredible nervous.
Still, I highly doubt they will lock the source. Android growns due the freedom of its open source. So no, it will stay opened, what the OEMs does is problem of the dumb people who gets their devices because they want a trademark logo instead of a good device.
Android L is like a revolution upgrade, not by looks, by the API's they put in it & ART will be default.
As a android developer I'm really surprise how much easier some API's have become, and ART is a big deal in developing for android.
Can't wait to start using those API's.
Q: Will LG release Android L for our E975?
If so I'm stick with this phone, love the Optimus UI, its really easy to use.
else have to buy a Nexus or G2 or G3.
Gilbert_Sarip said:
Android L is like a revolution upgrade, not by looks, by the API's they put in it & ART will be default.
As a android developer I'm really surprise how much easier some API's have become, and ART is a big deal in developing for android.
Can't wait to start using those API's.
Q: Will LG release Android L for our E975?
If so I'm stick with this phone, love the Optimus UI, its really easy to use.
else have to buy a Nexus or G2 or G3.
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Well, i think our Optimus G officialy die with KitKat 4.4.2, i don't believe that LG will update our device to Android L, or almost near in the future.
RIP Optimus G with Official updates, now its only on the hands of the developers!
Javier_Vzla said:
Well, i think our Optimus G officialy die with KitKat 4.4.2, i don't believe that LG will update our device to Android L, or almost near in the future.
RIP Optimus G with Official updates, now its only on the hands of the developers!
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Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new UI? I didn't even like the Kitkat UI tho, so incosistent.
Galileo said:
Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new UI?
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Are you talking about the L? Then no, you are not the only one... I find some new functionality quite impressive, but the UI is just ugly (to my taste). Also, can't understand what the big deal is about the new animations, shadows, etc. (basically, the whole Material Design thing)...
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Are you talking about the L? Then no, you are not the only one... I find some new functionality quite impressive, but the UI is just ugly (to my taste). Also, can't understand what the big deal is about the new animations, shadows, etc. (basically, the whole Material Design thing)...
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Happy to get the regular ART, but Android L is just to a version to sent older smartie's into retirement. Will see how CM's work is done with L. Don't think L is featured that well. Just to make it compatible to Wear and TV and so on ? Do I have to buey a new TV now ? For what ? Don't see serious graphical improvements. But everyone has his own opinion.
For me it is just creating a hug bubble with nothing serious in it.
Regards.
Mike
gboos said:
Happy to get the regular ART, but Android L is just to a version to sent older smartie's into retirement. Will see how CM's work is done with L. Don't think L is featured that well. Just to make it compatible to Wear and TV and so on ? Do I have to buey a new TV now ? For what ? Don't see serious graphical improvements. But everyone has his own opinion.
For me it is just creating a hug bubble with nothing serious in it.
Regards.
Mike
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It has a lot of new features. Some even from PA. Paranoid Android devs themselves loved L because is finally getting where they wanted it to be. Also, I loved the UI, looks better, tho as I'm a oem firmware lover since my Xperia s, it may have helped a lot. Never liked stock aosp Ui anyway.
I don't like the new UI either. It's more like a custom launcher than a standard one for daily use.
IMO I think the new Material Design looks pretty cool. Features like lock screen notifications are also long overdue
I've been following the porting of Android L in the nexus 4 and almost ready, but missing some details, I wonder if there will be some developer who carries the Optimus G, after completion of porting this
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Android 12 added a phantom process killer. I am considering of buying the Samsung Galaxy S22 which ships with it. I use Termux and I heard it always gets SIGKILLed. But, in Android 13, there is a flag to disable killing phantom processes (settings_enable_monitor_phantom_procs). Is it available for the Android 13 beta of the phone? (If yes, please provide screenshots as steps).
Btw, is Android 13 beta stable? I don't want to buy the wrong phone.
Thanks!
I had an s22(snapdragon) and tbh don’t recommend it, bad battery, laggy ui, mediocre cameras and it gets hot very easy.
kcpyn36 said:
I had an s22(snapdragon) and tbh don’t recommend it, bad battery, laggy ui, mediocre cameras and it gets hot very easy.
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How about an Samsung S22+?
I have seen many custom roma for phones but i haven't seen iOS 13 running on Android, I know it's possible back in days I ran iOS 10 on old Samsung phone after install specific iOS rom from a developer,
But i was wondering installing iOS rom will a lot of fun especially when u carry android phone, but sadly no one is working on that, u can use e theme but its in not good,
Do someone know Abt any rom which is Available for Android
By iOS you mean an android rom with an iOS theme?
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I have seen many custom roma for phones but i haven't seen iOS 13 running on Android, I know it's possible back in days I ran iOS 10 on old Samsung phone after install specific iOS rom from a developer,
But i was wondering installing iOS rom will a lot of fun especially when u carry android phone, but sadly no one is working on that, u can use e theme but its in not good,
Do someone know Abt any rom which is Available for Android
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Please. Shut the hell up..
Dude!!!! iOS is COLSED SOURCE
Habeebi said:
I have seen many custom roma for phones but i haven't seen iOS 13 running on Android, I know it's possible back in days I ran iOS 10 on old Samsung phone after install specific iOS rom from a developer,
But i was wondering installing iOS rom will a lot of fun especially when u carry android phone, but sadly no one is working on that, u can use e theme but its in not good,
Do someone know Abt any rom which is Available for Android
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I guess you've lived in a cave for many years XD have a bit of reading https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...is-closed-but-what-does-that-mean-to-you/amp/
iOS is not open source and may have compatibility issues with android hardware. And besides its impossible to port ios to android.
As many others have pointed out, iOS is closed source; I get the feeling that whatever OP installed on his phone wasn't actually iOS but rather a heavily modified custom Android ROM.