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Does Zerolemon make battery case for Samsung Galaxy W I8150 ?
Yozzo1 said:
Does Zerolemon make battery case for Samsung Galaxy W I8150 ?
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Wow The Zerolemon makes 10 000mAh battery...
but our phone isn't in support devices: " http://www.zerolemon.com/products.php "
so stop to asking.
one of my friends said to me not to buy thoese batteries. he says thoese high mAh'ed batteries will loose their power soon. is it real ? well tbh all batteries loosing their power as the time passes... ah.. this battery thing is a big problem for g wonder.
my friend bought a galaxy trend plus few weeks ago. he showed me his battery graph. i coudnt belive. it has passed 15 hrs since he plugged off from charger and it has still %98 battery. the graphic was like a mountatin road. i mean like this /\/\/\ it is something like battery charging itself back. same thing happens to me when my battery is nearly under 10 percent. for example if it is 6 becomes 7 and 8... slowly. strange
anilatiklik said:
one of my friends said to me not to buy thoese batteries. he says thoese high mAh'ed batteries will loose their power soon. is it real ? well tbh all batteries loosing their power as the time passes... ah.. this battery thing is a big problem for g wonder.
my friend bought a galaxy trend plus few weeks ago. he showed me his battery graph. i coudnt belive. it has passed 15 hrs since he plugged off from charger and it has still %98 battery. the graphic was like a mountatin road. i mean like this /\/\/\ it is something like battery charging itself back. same thing happens to me when my battery is nearly under 10 percent. for example if it is 6 becomes 7 and 8... slowly. strange
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This is because of the battery indicator on phones. Although it detects how much juice we have left in our batteries, it detect em' very inaccurately. Once, my phone was draining battery fast till its battery was at 4%, i reboot it and shockingly gotten 80% of juice left.
Saintsoh also mentions to reboot your phone many times cos its like you're refreshing ur phone. It'll also give a slightly better reading after that
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Hello.
At this moment i use the Stock/original Samsung Battery (2.100 mAh) and Charger ( Out: 6.0V 1.0A, Input : 0,15A )
I want to buy a better battery and charger my Samsung Galaxy s3 GT-I9300 ( Germany, when it is interesting to know, no branding )
But i don't want to buy a low quality china sh*t ( it should have a Producer warranty and have to life longer than 1 day or 2 weeks )
Also i don't want to turn my S3 into Big Phone...
It was nice when the battery should fit with the Original Case.
I found this one ( youtube.com / watch?v=BBJUj-ZgpTo - Sorry for tricking, but i can't post fully links ;o. ).
I think this battery is a nice one.
It doesnt fit with the original case, but its okay.
Maybe you know better Batterys for the Same case from the 3000mAh Battery from samsung?
And are the 900mAh more from the Samsung battery good?
about how many % life this battery longer than the orignal one !?
And yes...
I looking for a new and better Charger than the Orignal Samsung one.
Maybe one with a xtra large USB cable is nice .
Hope u can help me.
I wish you all a Merry Christmas and wonderfull Days .
Sorry for my bad english.
I'm from Germany
I am runing the Anker Battery from amazon and it has been working well for 3+ months
yes.
Maybe i take a battery with a much bigger case...
But first i want a smart one ...
I think the big one like this or the "lemon" make the phone too ugly :/.
And i dont need a battery life about 3 days .
i will be happy if it stay for 24hours by normal use with musik streaming and sometimes little bit gaming .
As far as chargers go, I'd say stock is pretty much as good as it gets. Other chargers you buy don't come with warranties and they don't provide stable output (referring to those colourful ones made in China...)
Okay... ?
Bus are there difference between the Samsung Charger?
My Black one need about the Double of time too recharge as the White one, my father got with his Note2
Visse0704 said:
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Bus are there difference between the Samsung Charger?
My Black one need about the Double of time too recharge as the White one, my father got with his Note2
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The black one comes with your s3, has lower output than note3 charger. Note 2 has higher battery so they have a higher charger output so that it charges fast too. I'm not sure whether charging s3 at the higher rate will affect battery lifespan though.
I bought a used Galaxy S III and the battery would barely last a day. I went to my local BatteriesPlus store and picked up a standard 7100mah. I have had no complaints...it will last me about 10-12hrs with moderate/heavy usage. It works with NFC and they also have extended batteries and covers available.
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U can tell me the name of your Battery from the BatteriePlus store !?
Anyone else some Informations/Tipps because of the Charger and the Batterie !?
Really thank you all until now
Visse0704 said:
U can tell me the name of your Battery from the BatteriePlus store !?
Anyone else some Informations/Tipps because of the Charger and the Batterie !?
Really thank you all until now
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I am running the Anker 4400mah and using Anker charger. Both have 180 day-no hassle warranty, and the customer service is top notch. The charge time is longer on larger batteries, however; if you buy two or cycle between standard batt and extended batt, you will never be without a charged battery. Personally, I run 2 Anker 4400mah and using their charger. At $20 a piece- well worth the price.
Run time varies based on usage, there are a lot of threads on this. For me-I usually get 1-2 days with heavy usage. Games, bluetooth emails, speaker phone, music player, ect.
I have also modded a trident case and otterbox to accommodate the size. You can get both on Amazon.
Hope this helps
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Zero Lemon has served me well for the last six months or so. Just the other day I got 5 hours of screen time on Omega Rom 53. The charger is rubbish, though.
Personally, I would prefer to buy a spare stock battery, and keep it in the car,bag or my coat. Rather do that than take the chance with third party batteries.
Whoever voted that you only get an extra hour out of the battery clearly doesn't have one.
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Whoever voted that you only get an extra hour out of the battery clearly doesn't have one.
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Yeah, I get many more hours with a 3300mah. I can get almost 2 days running 4.4.2 with moderate usage and lots of screen brightness. I like the 3300 as it keeps the for factor of the phone so all the cases fit. The 7000 is tempting though!! :highfive:
How about the ones that fit stock case what have people found to work the best
I went with this. Keeps the stock form. Get some good life with it. Def more than a day. Depends on the ROM.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281157227497?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Look what i've found yesterday...
What did you think about this one ?!
3450mAh Battery EB-L1G6LLU Battery Use for Samsung Galaxy S3 SIII I9300/I535/I747/L710/I9308/T999/I9305/M440S etc Mobile Phones
MPJ 3200mAh Akku EB-L1G6LLU für Samsung Galaxy S3 SIII i9300 I9305 Batterie
Hi all,
I've been looking around for a new phone for about a month now, with one main goal: to get a better battery life than my Samsung Galaxy Nexus (maguro) provides. I would really love to find a phone that I would not have to charge every day, like in the good old days of my Nokia 3210! The screen could be a bit bigger, but thats a secundary goal....
I am finding it very, very hard to make a choice. Of course there are phones out there that can give me more power (and bigger), like the Lenovo K920, the Huawei Ascend Mate7 or the Sony Xperia Z3, but they also cost around 400 euro's. I understand these prices, because these phones also give you a bigger screen, with more pixels, a better camera, more RAM and ROM and a faster processor etc. But actually, at the moment, I don't really need all of that. I am content with the size of my gnex, I use it to browse, whatsapp and occasionally to stream something to my tv. I don't play big games or use a lot of social media. And thanks to FML, I can almost get a stock version of Lollipop on my gnex, which is nice.
Can't I just buy a bigger battery and be done with it for a while, make it last another 6 months? I still have the stock 1750 mAh battery in my gnex it came with, there must be something better available?
I have 3 questions:
1) what is the best battery replacement at the moment that fits inside the original gnex backdoor?
2) what are my options if I am willing to settle for a backdoor that is a bit bigger?
3) are there any smartphones out there that focus solely on battery life? I haven't found them, but there surely must be a market for a smartphone that has a great battery life, and a decent (average) camera, screenquality, processor etc?
To solve my gnex battery issues I simply bought 2 replaceable batteries and a battery charger. At the time this cost me about $12 off ebay. This works best for me as then I never have to actually charge my phone with a micro usb charger (arguably the micro usb port is the weakest and most likely part of a gnex to break) and can just charge the batteries separately; leaving my phone mobile and not stuck to a wall for hours at a time. When I go out I put a spare charged battery in my wallet to swap it out when my battery runs low. It's also great when travelling as places to charge a phone are more limited but having a separate charger means you can use a sneaky power port without leaving your phone.
I haven't looked into getting a larger or 'better' battery personally, however one of my friends bought one that required a fatter backing case (at the time the biggest battery for gnex) and he said that could last him the whole day but meant he couldn't use any of the gnexus cases.
Quick note about gnexus batteries: The NFC chip for a galaxy nexus is built into the battery (don't ask me why), if your buying a cheap battery it will most likely not have NFC unless it's an official samsung gnexus battery from samsung. Not sure how much this effects you, I personally don't use NFC let alone find it important enough to warrant an extra $30 per battery.
IanCoves said:
To solve my gnex battery issues I simply bought 2 replaceable batteries and a battery charger. At the time this cost me about $12 off ebay. This works best for me as then I never have to actually charge my phone with a micro usb charger (arguably the micro usb port is the weakest and most likely part of a gnex to break) and can just charge the batteries separately; leaving my phone mobile and not stuck to a wall for hours at a time. When I go out I put a spare charged battery in my wallet to swap it out when my battery runs low. It's also great when travelling as places to charge a phone are more limited but having a separate charger means you can use a sneaky power port without leaving your phone.
I haven't looked into getting a larger or 'better' battery personally, however one of my friends bought one that required a fatter backing case (at the time the biggest battery for gnex) and he said that could last him the whole day but meant he couldn't use any of the gnexus cases.
Quick note about gnexus batteries: The NFC chip for a galaxy nexus is built into the battery (don't ask me why), if your buying a cheap battery it will most likely not have NFC unless it's an official samsung gnexus battery from samsung. Not sure how much this effects you, I personally don't use NFC let alone find it important enough to warrant an extra $30 per battery.
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thank you for your extensive reaction, but alas: I've retired my great gnex. My micro USB port did cave in, and I could only charge putting the phone in an upright position. I could have used it fine, but I got the chance to get a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 cheap, and it is holding it's own so far: 3 days and 3 hours on one charge and still I have 13% left!
So as it seems the underlying issue was all in these batteries of note7 and the aggressive design of the phone chassis itself - leaving little to no gaps for battery, probably not enough space for battery front and back either so batteries easily got squashed inside of the super-slim factor phone design chassis while wearing phone in tight pocket like situations and due to the fragile nature of the battery it just got affected, damaged and caught on fire like explained in latest samsung reports.
Here is the deal, I will get equivalent original samsung battery from S7Edge model etc, same 3600mAh capacity (providing the thickness is same or less than that of Note7) and with necessary modification (if applicable) to the battery terminal flex connector so it clips right in to the Note7 PCB just like original Note7 battery did, I think this should be excellent workaround for dangerous Note7 batteries!
I of course would try to perform various tests before final assembly of the phone with new battery mod in it, such as full discharge and recharge, also recharge while heavily loading phone with benchmarks, and also attempt multiple fast charging routines monitor how phone behaves with the new battery, that is - all these tests are to be done on phone fully disassembled in the worst case scenario if phone battery still would get caught on fire during the testing I would at least salvage the phone from disaster that otherwise would be inevitable when testing phone fully assembled.
Your thoughts?
I would say you should give it a go. But isn't the S7 battery bigger ? How about trying to go with the S7 non edge battery instead ? Plus I thought that some battery were not soldered properly and made a short circuit to happen ?
Source I read : https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-7-return-exchange-faq/
Im yet to find out about the battery dimensions/size. while s7edge appears ~1mm thinner to my observation makes me think battery design should be similar or lesser in thickness and I really expect it to be no taller/wider but that is to be confirmed later when I take it apart(if it comes to that).
If batteries do fit, all I need to do is to unwrap the shield of the note7 battery where PCB is soldered to +/- terminals and replace battery connection pcb the same way back to s7e battery.
I think s7e battery would be the best candidate as for 3600mah capacity vs 3500mah note7 capacity, even if phone some way tries to charge this battery further than 3500mah as per physical capacity of the battery it should be "safe" I think.
Where if the battery installed would be ~3000mah etc, note7 battery terminal PCB chip would probably try to achieve 3500mah capacity and charge may again result in innevitable fatality, that is unless note7 battery pcb chip registers battery capacity 3000mah as wear and tear and adopts to charge only to 3000mah without actually overcharging it.
Had some hobby experience playing with iphone 4 4s 5s batteries in the past where I would swap around pcbs with batteries and phone would work, not ideal because I didnt pay much attention which went where but it did work to great extent.
I too see that the defects ratio was not definite and more so it was one in many many thousands that had bad soldering or manufacturing practice etc missing protective layers and so on, as I observe my note7 battery is always very cold never hot even cooler than that of s7 edge so I think analogy goes to be correct, but still I rather not take much chance with it if you know where Im going with this - "WHAT IF..."
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Im yet to find out about the battery dimensions/size. while s7edge appears ~1mm thinner to my observation makes me think battery design should be similar or lesser in thickness and I really expect it to be no taller/wider but that is to be confirmed later when I take it apart(if it comes to that).
If batteries do fit, all I need to do is to unwrap the shield of the note7 battery where PCB is soldered to +/- terminals and replace battery connection pcb the same way back to s7e battery.
I think s7e battery would be the best candidate as for 3600mah capacity vs 3500mah note7 capacity, even if phone some way tries to charge this battery further than 3500mah as per physical capacity of the battery it should be "safe" I think.
Where if the battery installed would be ~3000mah etc, note7 battery terminal PCB chip would probably try to achieve 3500mah capacity and charge may again result in innevitable fatality, that is unless note7 battery pcb chip registers battery capacity 3000mah as wear and tear and adopts to charge only to 3000mah without actually overcharging it.
Had some hobby experience playing with iphone 4 4s 5s batteries in the past where I would swap around pcbs with batteries and phone would work, not ideal because I didnt pay much attention which went where but it did work to great extent.
I too see that the defects ratio was not definite and more so it was one in many many thousands that had bad soldering or manufacturing practice etc missing protective layers and so on, as I observe my note7 battery is always very cold never hot even cooler than that of s7 edge so I think analogy goes to be correct, but still I rather not take much chance with it if you know where Im going with this - "WHAT IF..."
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So basically no chance eh?
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So basically no chance eh?
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Well, whatsup with that straight "face to the wall" so well thought trough pessimistic comment?
Do you not have life to live meantime?
It seems as if the flex cables are different and the note 7 battery is narrower.
I'm disappointed there hasn't been an aftermarket manufacturer that has created a "safe" battery replacement yet.
I'm using a Verizon Note 7 that I reflashed with AT&T firmware. Since the IMEI is not an AT&T IMEI, I haven't had to worry about "green battery" or "killswitch" updates coming to the phone. Still worried daily that my house will burn down or something, however.
I think no company will provide an aftermarket battery because the market is very small. That eventually would happen if Samsung refurbished all Note7's and reintroduced them in the market. Mine (have 2) are working flawlessly without any issues
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Im not certain about sizes yet, it could be alot due to optical ilusion, as s7e and n7 are little different layout, etc - battery in the s7e is seated little further to the left (meaning more toward the center of the phone) and the camera on s7e at least to me from the first glance when compared to n7 looks more further to the right side which creates illusion of s7 battery to be wider because of its positioning. I may be completely wrong, just wanted to throw that in there though.
Also, battery from note4, S5 can potentially be used too, of course its core would need to be stripped and de-soldered from the old PCB and after that you have a naked battery pack that is still permanently safely sealed with two (positive and negative) terminals exposed ready for soldering with original note7 battery PCB and connection, providing we get enough room inside battery compartment. it all can be utilized, and even more, maybe note5, maybe s6 s6edge s6edge+ s7 and other similar sized samsung batteries of recent production years have similar measures that will make it a good potential donor? I'd say even if one can find battery of similar but not larger in size and capacity battery from any other manufacturer it should also work by the same methods of DIY, of course obviously acknowledging that the use of quick/fast-charge can be detrimental suicidal step in a way of charging the phone after any such DIY, even if it was samsung approved battery, fast charge is a fast-lane of premature battery wear/overheat and failure, such as explosions.
Here is my observations, I own few of these Note7. I have never ever once used fast charging on them knowing what it does and how it physically affects batteries, never ever had I used it on my note5 s6 s6e or s7e, I rather have my phone charge longer rather than let battery prematurely wear out sooner, and nobody knows what if S6 S7 batteries undergo the same quality testing like note7 batteries did and it was just a great matter of luck to a slight degree that not so many s6 s7's had exploded in the past due to quick charge technology used. Of course, alot of what I said is speculation, but just take that for a minute and let it sink in, think about it. Its certain - not everything that ever happens is publicized.
Ok, according to my research (call it bro-science) as it was internet based on official reported measurements of devices, I picked some stripped down samsung phones (notes and S series), adjusted these pics to represent real manufacturer reported dimensions in photoshop and measured batteries in the pictures. So far I can give rough estimates and the best to my knowledge these measures may not represent exact measures of the batteries but actual measures should be less or equal than what I have figured out. Only thing left to question is the thickness of the batteries:
We have here a patient, in a name of: Note7, this battery measures 99mm x 38.5mm
Other models I have looked at were:
S7edge 96mm x 41mm ( @MrBaltazar > you were correct regarding battery size there, its too wide )
S7 88mm x 37.5mm (looks like ideal candidate for now, especially providing extra headroom for DIY work on the top of the battery which may not come out as neat as from manufacturer)
S6 99.5mm x 46mm (too tall & too wide)
Note5 108mm x 42mm (too tall & too wide)
Note4 93mm x 39mm x 5.5mm(also seems like an ideal candidate plus its 220mah more in capacity vs S7 3000mah battery)
S7 Active 91mm x 40mm (this would be interesting @ 4000mAh ... I just am almost certain - thickness of this battery got to be greater than note7 or note4/s7 candidate battery... a strong guess)
I feel note4 may be real good choice if S7 battery thickness is more than that of Note7, and note4 battery turns out to be slimmer or the same thickness after being stripped as Note7 battery ... especially after removing the top plastic trim that holds gold plated battery terminals with battery pcb and unwrapping first layer of label with NFC antena, that should shave off additional ~0.2-0.5mm from the whole 5.5mm note4 battery thickness.
So thats that, some food for thought
Alright first off,
HOLY ****ING ****
Second off,
That's amazing
Third off,
**** you ;P
Keep up the good work mate! If you can find a system you can replicate let me know, I would LOVE to try it.
Im sure it will all work well, keep an eye out here, this actually drives me somewhat to do this. Most interesting is testing under load once all is done.
I was thinking more, and I believe S7 3000mAh battery is the best choice regardless of anything (unless S7 Active battery magically fits just the same, but its unlikely given its huge capacity it must be much thicker, but I am not sure 100% yet anyway). S7 and Note7 is of the same period/same production line, so if anything it should work the best, even with quick/fast charge when needed, as I thought today it still would be a very good feature to use if one is stuck in an emergency situation such as airport and needs a quick sufficient charge in short time - if fast charge works well - its there to use, otherwise I would still be against using it every-time, for longevity of course.
another interesting trick would be to remove Note7 battery and have it X-Rayed to see if any dangers are underlying like those explained by samsung, should be visible under high-res x-ray imaging, but I dont have access to that(yet) so I will still keep the note7 battery cell for a while until maybe I get access to such equipment.
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Ok, according to my research (call it bro-science) as it was internet based on official reported measurements of devices, I picked some stripped down samsung phones (notes and S series), adjusted these pics to represent real manufacturer reported dimensions in photoshop and measured batteries in the pictures. So far I can give rough estimates and the best to my knowledge these measures may not represent exact measures of the batteries but actual measures should be less or equal than what I have figured out. Only thing left to question is the thickness of the batteries:
We have here a patient, in a name of: Note7, this battery measures 99mm x 38.5mm
Other models I have looked at were:
S7edge 96mm x 41mm ( @MrBaltazar > you were correct regarding battery size there, its too wide )
S7 88mm x 37.5mm (looks like ideal candidate for now, especially providing extra headroom for DIY work on the top of the battery which may not come out as neat as from manufacturer)
S6 99.5mm x 46mm (too tall & too wide)
Note5 108mm x 42mm (too tall & too wide)
Note4 93mm x 39mm x 5.5mm(also seems like an ideal candidate plus its 220mah more in capacity vs S7 3000mah battery)
S7 Active 91mm x 40mm (this would be interesting @ 4000mAh ... I just am almost certain - thickness of this battery got to be greater than note7 or note4/s7 candidate battery... a strong guess)
I feel note4 may be real good choice if S7 battery thickness is more than that of Note7, and note4 battery turns out to be slimmer or the same thickness after being stripped as Note7 battery ... especially after removing the top plastic trim that holds gold plated battery terminals with battery pcb and unwrapping first layer of label with NFC antena, that should shave off additional ~0.2-0.5mm from the whole 5.5mm note4 battery thickness.
So thats that, some food for thought
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Sounds like the Note 4 battery might be the ticket. I'd be willing to try this out if I knew how to attach the note 7 flex cable to the note 4 battery, as well as disassemble both batteries.
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Im sure it will all work well, keep an eye out here, this actually drives me somewhat to do this. Most interesting is testing under load once all is done.
I was thinking more, and I believe S7 3000mAh battery is the best choice regardless of anything (unless S7 Active battery magically fits just the same, but its unlikely given its huge capacity it must be much thicker, but I am not sure 100% yet anyway). S7 and Note7 is of the same period/same production line, so if anything it should work the best, even with quick/fast charge when needed, as I thought today it still would be a very good feature to use if one is stuck in an emergency situation such as airport and needs a quick sufficient charge in short time - if fast charge works well - its there to use, otherwise I would still be against using it every-time, for longevity of course.
another interesting trick would be to remove Note7 battery and have it X-Rayed to see if any dangers are underlying like those explained by samsung, should be visible under high-res x-ray imaging, but I dont have access to that(yet) so I will still keep the note7 battery cell for a while until maybe I get access to such equipment.
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Please keep us informed on your endeavors into battery exploration.
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I am actually almost tempted to order a s7 battery and see if the connection is the same on the note 7 PCB. Then it's just a matter of bending the flex cable into place
Connectors all look identical for S6 Note5 S7 S7E , what worries me most I think the most is its the way pinouts can vary on them model to model, as I remember there's not only Positive/negative terminals , look here:
other connections are also important, and most important that it is not going to get connected in reverse which I dont want to even try, thats too precious loss if I fry anything on note7 pcb, try go and get another one of those note7 pcb's nowadays ahaha, let alone note7's !
So, all in all we can try and measure terminal voltages on both Note7 vs S7 and compare how it looks on multimeter, then try position it accordingly and expect it to be straight fit, then if all works well and flex is actually long enough - solution is found, no need anything to solder I suppose just plug in, bend flex a lil bit where necesary, making sure no sharp edges are exposed to the bent flex, no excessive pressure applied on bent flex cable before/after assembly, and for most part that the battery is right thickness and not squished in there, then its all green-lights and good to go, but just by the visuals it looks that note 7 has somewhat longer flex, and oposite facing angle, look here:
S7:
Note7:
I did not realize it would be this difficult to find authentic original non-replica s7 battery... lots places sell those but if one has half functioning brain its clear as day these are non-original... However, I did find some note4 original in samsung retail packaging and all papers batteries, which I think rather go with, which is almost local too vs. importing another second best from China/Hong Kong... so that's that... My only hopes in buying note4 battery, if its truly original and new unused not charged unabused piece is that if it will still actually hold 3000+ mah capacity off the shelf ... hope it will. I mean after all it would be dormant for 2~3 years or more, and batteries do get old and sometimes just prematurely die also...
Will keep you posted
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Updates...
So far I was very unlucky sourcing S7 battery which is my personal preference option due to this battery being most "up to date" tech variant available that should logically fit vs. the second best choice - a Note4 battery...
Also my donor Note7 is due in tomorrow as best case scenario, or latest Monday-Tuesday the 19'th-20'th of February, and I just dont feel like burning 30bucks on battery that probably does not fit by its thickness... (talking about note4 battery) , so I really want to take apart this note7 first and inspect the thickness of its original battery and the depth of the phone. What I mean in detail by that - please review this in-depth detailed report:
https://www.instrumental.ai/blog/2016/12/beyond-the-teardown-galaxy-note-7
^^^ That is allegedly a note7 illustrated right there, this gives me hopes as if I stripped plastic and NFC chip from note4 battery I should end up with just about 5mm of thickness of the naked without NCF chip and w/o labels battery. However, I need to look harder about the S7 battery thickness as my eyesight would be strongly concentrated toward that if it was of the same thickness or even better if it was just under 5mm, but I am not sure...
I also contemplated maybe even retrofitting apple iphone 6/6s or 7 battery providing it fits by its dimension and voltage measures (yea just pulled it from thin air havent measured or researched yet) , but at least talking about voltages should be bout right and capacity may be close to that of S7...
Otherwise I was even thinking removing NFC/Wireless charging mechanisms from the enclosure so the excess pressure from battery wear and tear does not build up on either old original or new replacement retrofit batteries, give or take there has to be ~10% headroom for battery expansion which was really not thought trough in note7's (or if it was there was general battery design fault that was underestimated and exaggerated expectations from engineers who designed battery had failed them prematurely...)
I have meantime located S6 battery which is way too big and it by no means going to be fitted there but I have another few tests in mind until I get my properly fitting battery alternative, just to rule out some questions and variables...
I think Chinese market fellows are up to some news regards note 7 because just lately I have noticed increase spike of note 7 cases and accessories at least on ebay, it just spiked my curiosity, what are the plans of samsung for the remaining 3+million note7's that they got back from the recall, are they by slight chance gonna push Note7S with note8 and S8 release? what are the chances of that happening?
Also I was deeply considering how would note4 battery be of a worse technology build vs S7 battery, knowing everyone who I know had note4 in the past almost every single one of them batteries had expended and died out rather soon within first year or so... I am just very cautious about this happening prematurely while retrofitted in note7 ... where as with S7 as many people I know using them and it has been about a year now of heavy use and abuse including those using quick-charge, batteries still perform ok and not swelling which is more promising when compared to note4 battery.
As lucky as I can get just by doing online hunt, I found one seller on aliexpress selling copy replacement batteries where he claims battery measurements to be ~88mm x 40mm x 5mm, and here we are talking about non original battery that is rated @ 3300mah as per sellers web page , out of which I feel it is reasonable to believe that it holds quality ~2000mah capacity knowing how all these generic batteries are made... it is real hard to find genuine battery, unless if I want to wait 60 days, I can order from China... hard hard decision on waiting vs the availability. I really am leaning forward just straight S7 battery swap with best hopes of longevity , but the quest now is to get exact measurements and fast delivery.
PS: Anybody reading this has new original battery for S7 (SM-G930 / G9300)who can ship it over to me or measure it precisely X * Y * Z ?
Thanks
I Tried Note 5 battery. Its bigger in terms of Length and width. As mentioned before flex cable is different and male/female end of connectors have been interchanged.
Out of desperation disassembled old battery and took the battery circuit out. Soldered Nokia BL-4C 3.7 V 840mah battery. Voltage of battery at full charge ~4.1V. Charging stops at 100%. I was thinking of installing something like old rom to limit charge to 60%. I will be installing wireless charging battery for the battery backup.
Its quite fun to play with it.
http://ca.crackberry.com/samsung-wireless-charging-backpack/4A123A24419.htm
manu_b said:
I Tried Note 5 battery. Its bigger in terms of Length and width. As mentioned before flex cable is different and male/female end of connectors have been interchanged.
Out of desperation disassembled old battery and took the battery circuit out. Soldered Nokia BL-4C 3.7 V 840mah battery. Voltage of battery at full charge ~4.1V. Charging stops at 100%. I was thinking of installing something like old rom to limit charge to 60%. I will be installing wireless charging battery for the battery backup.
Its quite fun to play with it.
http://ca.crackberry.com/samsung-wireless-charging-backpack/4A123A24419.htm
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Nice post, looks like you did not strip nokia battery from the nokia battery charging PCB so it literally goes two ways. I may be wrong but I believe I am not, when battery wears out on original samsung battery combination, lets say samsung s7 battery was used and abused and from 3000mah drops to ~1700mah real usable capacity, the charging chip adjusts accordingly to the current usable capacity and stops charging when receives signaling from the battery that it no longer increases in the charge capacity. Hope Im putting it out right so you can understand, I believe if you use note7 charging pcb chip on stripped nokia 800mah battery it should literally accept 800mah as total max capacity and record this "100% equivalent" memory record in to its circuit (dont know if its one way memory write though , because as if you were to add 3000mah s7 battery on the later date, the N7 battery charging pcb chip may decide only charge it to 800mah due to previous record of capacity created when 800mah battery was used...)
Its complicated I know... but thats what I would do. Otherwise, two nokia batteries if stripped could be coupled parallel (if it fits well) and you therefore have 1600mah battery) which is rather usable for at least ~ half a day off the power cable
I was also thinking about note7 wireless battery charger mod, I dont know whats inside of that battery back pack, but if there is enough space to store two S7 or S7edge batteries, that would be amazing DIY mod that would deliver ~9000-10000mah of raw juice coupled with S7 battery already installed in the N7 frame.
For most I hope tha note7 battery charging chip does not have memory recording feature on its own, so we can play with random batteries for as long as we find one working the best, as otherwise if it does have such effect - its sad news, as once you install less than 3000mah S7 battery for testing etc, you can never use 3000mah brand new batery to its full capacity, but I am only speculating here for the most part untill its tried.
While on this note - would you have another of the same type nokia battery to connect in parallel (doubling the capacity) to see if it still charges to 100% on indicator and last ~twice as long after this mod?
PS: I think time to time n7 backpack battery cases appear online on ebay for lots cheaper, worth a search there too
Also, the charging indicator @100% is fine and well, and setting limitation of charge to 60% in settings would result in 60% of currently measured capacity which I believe is pretty pointless as that was the aim of samsung safety/prevention methods, knowing batteries usually failed while in higher charge state - they tend to swell more and tight fitment inside the n7 prevents expansion therefore battery will be softly pushing against itself while theres a risk of failure at that shorting within itself due to built up inner pressure, thats why the limiting to 80% then 60% then 30% was put in place so batteries does not reach high charge state there fore does not expand as much within itself and the risks are greatly reduced, that's how I understand samsungs point of view on the issue.
Let me know what do you think
now that looks interesting ... https://www.xda-developers.com/repo...rbished-galaxy-note-7-with-a-smaller-battery/
replacing old chassis with thicker one to accommodate 3200mah battery? oh samsung
Mr.Ultimate said:
now that looks interesting ... https://www.xda-developers.com/repo...rbished-galaxy-note-7-with-a-smaller-battery/
replacing old chassis with thicker one to accommodate 3200mah battery? oh samsung
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Please please please let me know if you have any success. And if so, please send me a link to a battery I can buy (S7) so I can attempt this too
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Please please please let me know if you have any success. And if so, please send me a link to a battery I can buy (S7) so I can attempt this too
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Hey I was just typing a reply to this thread and have seen you reply to it before I clicked [Submit Reply] ...
Ok, so Im in a "triangle" situation here right now... yes I had more of them note7 on hand but now... I have only two coral blue note 7's, one is new and unused but still it is unsealed box unmodified/unupdated unit which works perfect and charges to a 100% battery etc which I intend to keep this way for later on selling it for a profit probably to some enthusiast collectioner guy...and another coral blue note7 is as good as new but it is used for few weeks by the first owner and it had this deadly update from samsung that prevented it from charging, so I have fixed this and now it is charging while still on its latest firmware and I am willing to play a little more with its firmware and so on until I decide to sell it too ... yeah I cant explain, I just enjoy reaching for some "goals", hitting them hard and then letting them go for someone else to enjoy while myself moving on, maybe weird, I know., but stay with me here for a moment. So I was thinking long and hard, and I am unable to justify splitting open my last firmware-fixed note7 that I was so anticipating on doing so ... that waterproof seal from factory means alot to me, I'd rather keep it on the phone for as long as I can, unless that would be inevitable, as I originally imagined the last note7 unit with disabled battery charging would require me to split it open to do at least battery charging up outside the phone just to get it ON so I could work on it trying to patch firmware and do some battery experiments further while Im at it, but as you may know I managed to fix it without opening it... and I few days ago (again...) I ordered myself another one of these bad boys Note7's, but this time its for real guys, its a cheap live demo unit (LDU), it should have no IMEI/no GSM radio chip and otherwise to be identical to retail units, so this is the model I will be stripping apart, most definitely, promise. Meanwhile I am really seriously thinking about learning on rom modding so I can build at least one or few fresh Note7 rom's for folks that are still out there holding on tight and giving all the love and care for their old note7's. The only one real reason is holding me back from keeping and using one of two note7 straight away and modifying it for self use is that I cannot get my hands on any dual sim note7 model (SM-N9300 or SM-N930FD), which I adore to death, literally... as my daily driver of a phone is S7edgde DUOS at the moment and it is a life saver not needing me to carry two phones everywhere I go, and any of note7's I had would make me do just that, use 2nd phone which is really not ideal at all... however dilemma in my mind goes to expect me to finally modify and use one of the two blue note7's if I will not be able to sell it for minimal no-loss profit, but for now I do not the plan on using any of them for daily use, hence my reasoning on waiting till I get Note7 LDU some time next week and give it all my tech-modifying love so I can break the IP68 water sealed back loose, probably crack it or scratch it and not be bothered about the rough love and abuse because Im about to give it, as this LDU has no such value as any of other retail units that I have... hope you's understand where Im coming from and are patient enough not to cross me over yet and wait a little more for my experiments on battery mods.
On another thought, since samsung-pay will not work and I am not sure if android pay will have any use with such heavily modified note7, I was really thinking taking out NFC/Wireless charging modules from the inside of the back of note7 to get more headroom for battery swap, plus if opportunity allows, I may as well split the chassis from the LCD screen later (if its feasible option) and measure the firewall thickness between the amoled screen and battery, see how much more I could machine off of that firewall while keeping some minimal amount of it still there for screen protection purposes, just a thought in an open wild triggered by the last samsung report regarding refurbed note7's which will receive thicker chassis, which may be ~2mm extra in thickness etc...
As the title suggest, its possible to put Note 8 battery in our beloved Note 7 the capacity is a bit smaller (200 mah less, but still 100 mah more than what gimped Note FE version sports) . Its inspired by similar thread by Mr.Ultimate, he did some testing and modification with s7 battery.
I did some research for compatible batteries:
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got my hands on some batteries, so I can post some dimensions (width, cos its the most important one and capacity), so far those are the ones who are not compatible (I got original ones, fake and copies can and most of the time will be a a different size):
s6 46mm 2550 mah
s6 edge 44mm 2600 mah
s6 edge+ 44mm 3000 mah
s7 edge 42mm 3600 mah
s7 Active 40mm 4000 mah
s8 40mm 3000 mah
s8+ 46mm 3500 mah
note edge 40,6mm 3000 mah
note4 41.4mm 3200 mah
note5 42mm 3000 mah
so far only these are compatible:
s7 39mm 3000 mah
note8 39mm 3300 mah
but still there are about 1 mm of width needed (original battery is almost less than 38mm) so you have to either take the tape off the battery and fold its sides or better remove that frame part between battery and motherboard, so because of the size, I did the mechanical modification and put Note 8 battery in my Note 7.
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Manufacturers codes for Samsung S7 battery is GH43-04574C, for Note 8 its GH82-15090A, its just a shame they used much wider batteries in S8, S9 and plus models, but they might use narrower battery in upcoming Note 9, so upgrading and getting bigger battery might not be out of question
As far as I could tell the Note 8 battery is the most promising for its size and device line (still Samsung Note series, just newer) so maybe better compatibility too and so I went with it
For everyone who would like to repeat this process, of course first you need to open your phone. You can look at ifixit.com note7 teardown or youtube for how to open it up and general guidance before you try anything, especially if its your first time opening a glued phone.
You need to remove at least the motherboard and the old battery for this modification (better yet, to remove all the components - easier to clean after), then you have to cut that frame part colored in red between battery and motherboard, cos original S7 or Note 8 battery is a tiny bit wider and removing that part gives fit just enough space to either one. You can use the dremel or any other similar tool to grind it off (I don't recommend cutting it, cos it might stress the frame too much and break the screen, but its just my preference). Then I used some black paint to mask exposed parts like here and here (for a closer look), optional, but I think its safer that way.
Now then new battery can fit comfy inside, had to bend the flex cable for reference, cos there enough space, also the new battery already comes with its own adhesive strips, if you get a diff battery, you can buy some 3M adhesive or similar double sided tape. What's left now is to remove the controller from the new battery and solder on the controller from the old battery.
Because batteries don't like heat the best bet would be to use spot welder, like they do in factories, but that's a bit on the expensive side (unless you do other electronics projects and happen to have one or made DIY one and even then the size of the tabs would be challenge too). So more realistic option would be to use soldering iron and some solder with flux, but because battery tabs are aluminum just any soldering flux won't work, because solder just wont stick properly and wont make permanent connection, which can add some resistance or even make a loose connection over time. So you must use specific soldering flux which eats into battery tabs and makes perfect connection. I tried few generic flux types I had on hand and basically ruined the endings of the tabs cos the solder just wouldn't stick to it, so I got some cheap zinc flux from local shop and it worked perfectly even using the same solder. After that you can use isopropyl alcohol to remove the remaining flux off the tabs, just don't short the battery.
Some pointers:
Try to get original battery, fake or low quality crap from ebay wont cut it, not only because of lower capacity (there are no chinesium batteries who can beat Samsung in battery capacity in same size, period) but because of quick charging too (you shouldn't risk fixing Samsung fire hazard with your own DIY hazard).
MUST use battery controller from original battery, using other controller can and will produce some problems, the controller itself doesn't measure capacity, only voltage, so diff capacity doesn't matter, but diff controller wont "talk" with the phone properly, only using Note 7 controller the phone can charge from 0 to 100% and give full incremental readings and battery charging application actually see the right capacity (about 3300 mahs in Note 8 battery case).
Solder the old Note 7 battery controller directly to new battery tabs, using wires, extensions, etc could add some resistance to connection and you won't get correct battery readings or end up with crappy or slower charging or worse.
I did tried using Note 8 battery without Note 7 controller, even had to make some DIY connectors. The Note 8 battery connector is the same as the one on Note 7 motherboard so even not taking into account different flex cable length and form, you cant just psychically plug Note 8 battery to Note 7 motherboard. So I took some connectors from dead Samsung S6 motherboards and frankensteined them to flex cable and with some wires I got this and this, thus I could use new the battery without any disassembly or soldering directly (to the battery) just by plugin it with DIY inter connector. It looked all good and tidy inside, that outlined area is there the old flex cable was routed (for reference then closing the phone), but it didn't worked properly, I got crappy indication when charging/discharging, the phone couldn't properly detect exact percentage when charging, like, it could sit on 5% for half an hour, when jumps straight to about 80%, or go gradually to about 30-35 and jump to about 70-80 and just sit there and if rebooted it would go to 99% and so on. Also the official wireless battery cover didn't worked properly too.
As for software side I did jumped for a few weeks through diff roms to find the best one for me (Marshmallow based ones works great, but for some you need diff kernel because of charging cap, while Nougat roms are newer, but can be less stable, lack iris support and official covers, that you can get really cheaply, doesn't work too). So I ended up using original Note 7 Marshmallow rom (the one with 30% charging cap) and hydra kernel version 1.3.5, had to extract this version from hydra rom , cos you can separately download only 1.3 version (from here), recovery twrp 3.1, rooted with SuperSU 2.82 and with Europe Multi-CSC selection from CSC Selection. Of course I still get that nagging notification every time I charge the phone, but its a small nuisance. Also removed some bloatware with No Bloat Free app to make it snappier.
So far it works great for me as everyday driver. I charge the the phone on average every two days, it takes less than two hours on average to charge (I try not to use fast charging much) and its holding about same or even better than my old rooted Note 4 (n910c) with new battery. SOT is great (like more than half a day on wifi playing youtube, ect), (SOT time, usage, by apps. After using the phone for a few months I get average charging/discharging and usage time like this). Of course the system or other apps won't detect the exact capacity because they take the capacity from the model information not from measurements, so because the model is n930f, the system reports original hard coded Note 7 capacity of 3500 mah, but because I used BuildProp Editor app to change the model to n935f other apps shows 3200 mah (like it should for Note FE model), while only battery measuring apps like AccuBattery report actual 3300 mah (estimated capacity is measured, designed capacity can be changed manually, by default it would show 3200 mah) capacity.
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Perfect, you are amazing man
I liked your ridh illustration i already do modification with s7 battery and thing good
But i found that charging speed is low however im using original charger and cable so
what do you think the problem is ??
And do you think that note 8 battery is far better than s7 battery ??
Thanks in advance
Asem123456 said:
Perfect, you are amazing man
I liked your ridh illustration i already do modification with s7 battery and thing good
But i found that charging speed is low however im using original charger and cable so
what do you think the problem is ??
And do you think that note 8 battery is far better than s7 battery ??
Thanks in advance
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glad to hear somebody founds it interesting and that there are more note7 fans
your slow charging speed could be from using low quality battery, most batteries you can find on ebay are fake ones (crappy charging circuit or lower quality and lower capacity or both), also depends on the rom and especially on the kernel you using, i found the hydra kernel being the best with charging speeds. As for note8 battery, its better mostly because its newer and bigger in capacity compared to s7 (3000 vs 3300 mah) and because of the almost identical price i could get them so because if you use real original s7 or note8 battery you have to modify the internal frame for either one to fit why not go with bigger one
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glad to hear somebody founds it interesting and that there are more note7 fans
as for your slow charging speed it could be from using low audibility battery, most batteries you can find on like eBay are fake ones (crappy charging circuit or lower quality and lower capacity battery cell or both), also depends on the rom and especially on the kernel you using, i found the hydra kernel still being best with charging speeds
note8 battery is better mostly because its newer and bigger in size (3000 vs 3300 mah) also because of the almost identical price i could them and because if you use real original s7 or note8 battery you have to modify the internal frame for either one to fit so why not go with bigger one
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Im using original s7 battery i assembly it from an original s7.
Regarding to charge speed i tried (Note FE ROM) and (Hydra rom), charge speed still the same
Do you think that problem related to quality of soldering paste !!
BTW you saved my ass when you mentioned note 8 battery
i was about buying new note FE battery with 92 $ ,, and now i can buy original note 8 battery with 24 $
Anyway i atill want a tip how to make note 8 battery thiner without do modification to Note 7 frame ??
•Do you have any idea ?
+•How much time your phone takes to full charge ?
Asem123456 said:
Im using original s7 battery i assembly it from an original s7.
Regarding to charge speed i tried (Note FE ROM) and (Hydra rom), charge speed still the same
Do you think that problem related to quality of soldering paste !!
BTW you saved my ass when you mentioned note 8 battery
i was about buying new note FE battery with 92 $ ,, and now i can buy original note 8 battery with 24 $
Anyway i atill want a tip how to make note 8 battery thiner without do modification to Note 7 frame ??
•Do you have any idea ?
+•How much time your phone takes to full charge ?
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soldering shouldn't make a big diff, basically if its works you probably soldered it correctly, otherwise you would have some fire on your hands as for note8 battery its thin enough, if you mean width, then you could try to wiggle it in, i didn't took a chance and made a modification, cos even if you manage to put it in inside it would be way more crammed than the original battery was, so a bit dangerous, as for charging, mine takes less than two hours (i try not to use fast charging much)
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I've got my brand new Note 7 blocked by Samsung for almost 6 months, and change battery for the S7 version and Hydra Rom.
So far everything, I mean everything is working perfect! Iris, fingerprint, cameras, great sound and was able to install any app that I need so far. S-pen works great and if I charge 100% during the night (mobile data and wifi off, phone on) here's my day for test proposal:
7.00 am disconnect from mains and start wifi until 12:00 (several apps running, facebook , whatsapp, viber, phone calls and sms among others)
12:00 until 15:00 out of office mobile data on, wifi off.
15:00 until 19:00 wifi
19:00 until 00:00 wifi at home, games, facebook and whatever...
00:00 mobile data off, wifi off, phone on, don't charge.
7:00 same routine.
At 11:30, 12:00 it's at 10% battery.
So with the S7 battery on my Note 7 and Hydra I can get at least 20 hours regular use and 14 hours in standby.
I'm very pleased with this solution, I'm not an Adroid Update Maniac so this solution appears to be perfect to me.
Some help over here
How did you make that diy connector? Can u please make a more explained thread. Thanks in advance!
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I'm from romania so i was not expecting to find something original to be found online in my area. So i look up on american sites, but i still couldn't manage to find one thats actually original.
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you looking for a part number GH82-15090A, it likely gonna cost you at least 20 euros, you could try ordering from some suppliers in europe like https://www.replacebase.co.uk/for-samsung-galaxy-note-8-replacement-battery-eb-bn950abe-3000mah-oem/ or https://www.samparts.eu/en/Samsung-GH82-15090A, or https://www.sparessamsung.com/gb/ba...5090a.html?search_query=GH82-15090A&results=1
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How did you make that diy connector? Can u please make a more explained thread. Thanks in advance!
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i used some random flex cable i had laying around and a few matching connectors salvaged from dead motherboards, but as i pointed out i did that before resoldering old battery controller on the new battery and using that connector proved to be no good cos it didn't charged well and showed inaccurate capacity, etc., so i wouldn't recommend going that way
I don't have the note 7 battery controller
Someone had been using it ever since it got released, and 2 weeks ago his battery got bigger and had to remove it. He threw it all away. He gave the note 7 without the battery, thinking I could play around with it. Soy only chance of making this phone work again is if I use a note 8 battery.
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Someone had been using it ever since it got released, and 2 weeks ago his battery got bigger and had to remove it. He threw it all away. He gave the note 7 without the battery, thinking I could play around with it. Soy only chance of making this phone work again is if I use a note 8 battery.
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you could try searching on ebay or other sites then to find a fake or used battery, cos using diff battery with diff controller will yield various problems, like not charging properly, reporting inaccurate capacity (so it would shut down randomly) and so on
Some help over here
I have found a dude how sells authentic note 7 batteries for 50€, is it worth it? Long story short, I need a note 7 controller.
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I have found a dude how sells authentic note 7 batteries for 50€, is it worth it? Long story short, I need a note 7 controller.
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those are hard to come by, so its completely up to you
Thank you for your instruction.
What about the batteries thickness? Isn't Note8 or S7 batteries are more thick than Note7 case?
And I wonder if it's possible to use S9 or Note9 batteries now. Can someone tell?
superkapitan82 said:
Thank you for your instruction.
What about the batteries thickness? Isn't Note8 or S7 batteries are more thick than Note7 case?
And I wonder if it's possible to use S9 or Note9 batteries now. Can someone tell?
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Note8 or S7 OEM batteries are the same thickness as note7 (aftermarket chinesium ones can differ though), as for s9 or note9 batteries, those are considerably bigger in size, like shorter but much wider and so not usable in note7
Why are the Note FE batteries so hard to come by?
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Why are the Note FE batteries so hard to come by?
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well, any legit supplier had to pull out any note 7 batteries from being sold and note fe simply wasn't released as widely as note 7 or any other galaxy series phone, so most suppliers don't even have any parts for it, including batteries