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Can someone PLEASE install vignette and try taking a photo with the stock camera and vignette?
I want to see if the compression and artifacting is software sourced....
I am so torn with regards to my next phone, and I have heard insanely amazing things about the One, but I am also a pretty avid mobile photographer and really appreciate a better than average camera....
Let me know if you try this and if you can, post the results?
Assuming the Vignette Demo (free version) would suffice?
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Assuming the Vignette Demo (free version) would suffice?
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Don't think so, demo might not have full quality.
I have the full version. But its dark now. Do you need a daylight picture?
Sent from my HTC One.
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I have the full version. But its dark now. Do you need a daylight picture?
Sent from my HTC One.
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Yeah, Daylight..... no rush. I am just hung up on this camera.
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Can someone PLEASE install vignette and try taking a photo with the stock camera and vignette?
I want to see if the compression and artifacting is software sourced....
I am so torn with regards to my next phone, and I have heard insanely amazing things about the One, but I am also a pretty avid mobile photographer and really appreciate a better than average camera....
Let me know if you try this and if you can, post the results?
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I honestly wouldn't go with the HTC One or the GS4 if you want a great mobile camera. Where the HTC One excels in average light and low-light, it is awful outdoors, and the 4MP's aren't anything extraordinary either. The iPhone5 has a slightly better camera than the One, and the 5S should be getting released in less than a month. I honestly hate referring you to the iPhone because it sucks everywhere else against Android. The 5S should be a getting a slightly improved camera which would put it as a good bit better than the One's camera. The GS4's camera isn't better than the One, but it does do better in bright lighting/outdoors and has a better MP count.
It is possible that the HTC One Max being released soon might be getting a better "Ultrapixel" camera than our non-phablet One's. Maybe look into that? Or the iPhone5S. I can't imagine the Nexus 5 being released in a few months would have a much better camera than last years Nexus, and not to mention it likely won't be on Verizon.
Also, the Moto X's camera is god awful.
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I honestly wouldn't go with the HTC One or the GS4 if you want a great mobile camera. Where the HTC One excels in average light and low-light, it is awful outdoors, and the 4MP's aren't anything extraordinary either. The iPhone5 has a slightly better camera than the One, and the 5S should be getting released in less than a month. I honestly hate referring you to the iPhone because it sucks everywhere else against Android. The 5S should be a getting a slightly improved camera which would put it as a good bit better than the One's camera. The GS4's camera isn't better than the One, but it does do better in bright lighting/outdoors and has a better MP count.
It is possible that the HTC One Max being released soon might be getting a better "Ultrapixel" camera than our non-phablet One's. Maybe look into that? Or the iPhone5S. I can't imagine the Nexus 5 being released in a few months would have a much better camera than last years Nexus, and not to mention it likely won't be on Verizon.
Also, the Moto X's camera is god awful.
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Isn't odd to anyone else that you can't get the holy trifecta of build/update/camera on one phone these days? I am almost getting to that point where I am paranoid that there's been a backroom agreement between manufacturers to only have 1 or 2 out of 3....
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Isn't odd to anyone else that you can't get the holy trifecta of build/update/camera on one phone these days? I am almost getting to that point where I am paranoid that there's been a backroom agreement between manufacturers to only have 1 or 2 out of 3....
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Basically if you combined the iPhone5 and the HTC One specs and took the best of each, you would have the best mobile phone camera available. I tried out the Lumia 1020, not impressed in the slightest.
I have an HTC One and an iPhone 5 and I like the photos on the HTC One better. Although it could be the 1080p screen that's tricking me.
I have vignette and will take a stock camera + vignette pic shortly
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Basically if you combined the iPhone5 and the HTC One specs and took the best of each, you would have the best mobile phone camera available. I tried out the Lumia 1020, not impressed in the slightest.
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I am inclined to agree. though, for my hands I'd prefer a 5 inch screen
The Sony i1 is being announced next week. G lens 20mp camera, expandable memory, etc. Might be worth waiting to see what they announce.
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The Sony i1 is being announced next week. G lens 20mp camera, expandable memory, etc. Might be worth waiting to see what they announce.
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A sony phone on Verizon? think not.
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Basically if you combined the iPhone5 and the HTC One specs and took the best of each, you would have the best mobile phone camera available. I tried out the Lumia 1020, not impressed in the slightest.
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I agree with this completely. HTC got nearly everything right except for the camera. I'm hoping that the next iteration has slightly less bezel (think Moto X form factor) and a camera on par to whatever the 5S will have. If so, I'll be buying one at full price to replace this HTC One.
Ok I have taken 2 pictures, one with the stock camera and one with the Vignette camera. How would you like to see them? They're not the best pictures because it was lightly raining and I didn't want to get my phone wet so I was trying to keep the phone under the eve of my roof.
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Why the doubt? There has been at least one Sony Android phones on Verizon before.
We also need to consider another factor. A camera is only as good as the photographer using it. I am by no means a professional yet in have seen great pictures and taken great pics with the HTC one that I would put up against the gs4 or the iPhone 5(I have owned all 3). The HTC one has many more options than either one of those cameras when it comes to exposure, shutter, white balance, etc. The camera editor is also great on this phone. If you use the correct scene it also helps a bunch as well.
Unless we are talking about enlarging the pic bigger than a 4x6 or 5x7 then that's where the One would fail and the GS4 or ip5 would clearly succeed. As far as posting to Facebook or instagram etc the one will be great .
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Ok I have taken 2 pictures, one with the stock camera and one with the Vignette camera. How would you like to see them? They're not the best pictures because it was lightly raining and I didn't want to get my phone wet so I was trying to keep the phone under the eve of my roof.
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just embed them in this thread?
Not a great morning here, cloudy/foggy, but heres a shot from both stock and vignette, respectively. Also attached a zip of the 2 since the pics would be altered due to size limits. The 'brighter' one (also taken fist, check filename) is the stock. Didn't get Vignette to focus well, and can only take 3.1M images, was on "superfine" with no filter.
For some reason Vignette can only capture up to 3.1MP on the HTC One, plus it doesn't do HDR either. I find it best to use the stock camera with HDR and then share with Vignette for the filters I want to apply. The photo comes out better than just using Vignette straight.
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For some reason Vignette can only capture up to 3.1MP on the HTC One, plus it doesn't do HDR either. I find it best to use the stock camera with HDR and then share with Vignette for the filters I want to apply. The photo comes out better than just using Vignette straight.
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if i used them yeah thats what you would have to do. HTC has an odd camera and pixel count, so i'm not surprised Vignette doesn't properly support it. They've always been good about resolving issues though, so theres hope.
Hi friends.
I currently own a Nexus 4 and I have loved this device for a REALLY long time. However, now I think its time to upgrade. My upgrade is due to the following 4 reasons ONLY.
1) Screen Size. I want a bigger screen size than my N4
2) Available Memory. 16 GB. Every now and then its full. Cant expand. I take lotsa pictures and videos.
3) Camera. MAJOR REASON. Oh I hate my phone whenever I open the camera app. The camera itself is just plain pathetic. It just cant focus AT ALL. The pictures are 95% of the times blur. No my hands are not shaky. But this phone requires your hands to be trained on a snipper perhaps. And the pics are always dull, without life.
4) Battery. Need to charge it quite a lot. Although I am not a heavy user at all. But KitKat has ruined the phone. Moreover, I do NOT play games at all and never use data. If it had a removable battery, I would have easily charged the extra battery and use it on the go.
Earlier I was thinking abt LG G Pro but now I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo. So picking SGN3Neo for the following reasons:
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed. It now costs $380, unlocked.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4. I mostly CROP images and stuff, so it is good for cropping? How's video/pics in night? Blur? or Clear?
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) It's got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) I think 720p should be fine, considering it has AMOLED display.
6) OTG, for even more space.
Prices of other phones in my country.
LG G2: $440
LG G Pro: $280
Galaxy S4: $450
OnePlus One: *ock Teaser (not interested)
As you can see, almost all these phones are priced quite above Neo 3, so I am toooo inclined towards the Neo as it has decent specs. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? As MANYY users are reporting firmware issues and other day-to-day issues with the phone. Like: phones shows full signals, regardless sim is inserted or not. Or, screen flickering issues. etc
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the Neo 3 that you suggest me not opting for it?
And ya does ti lag badly? Say like S3? (The only reason I have hated samsung phones is, LAG. Please tell me does it lag after a while?
, once the phone is filled with lotsa apps and media?
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to SGN3 Neo. Please suggest.
1. Got mine for around $360 unlocked, great value.
2. The camera is great. Video is superb. Low-light is excellent too. Having a little difficulty focusing on a macro scale though, well it's same for most devices too. The front camera is good as well, even for a 2MP.
3. Battery. 74HR Endurance Rating on GSMArena. Excellent!
4. Yep!
5. 720P S-Amoled. What looks bad on paper, actually looks great, in my opinion. I don't notice much difference having used a N3 before. Lower res = better battery life. S-Amoled means excellent viewing angles, deep blacks and good saturation!
6. OTG. Expansion much?
go for it. You have your concerns covered.
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1. Got mine for around $360 unlocked, great value.
2. The camera is great. Video is superb. Low-light is excellent too. Having a little difficulty focusing on a macro scale though, well it's same for most devices too. The front camera is good as well, even for a 2MP.
3. Battery. 74HR Endurance Rating on GSMArena. Excellent!
4. Yep!
5. 720P S-Amoled. What looks bad on paper, actually looks great, in my opinion. I don't notice much difference having used a N3 before. Lower res = better battery life. S-Amoled means excellent viewing angles, deep blacks and good saturation!
6. OTG. Expansion much?
go for it. You have your concerns covered.
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Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s
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Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s[/QUOTE
i think samsung is not planning to release the 800 worldwide.exclusive only in korea.
my only opinion why u should go for the note 3 neo is the battery life.i have used n4 and sold my n5 for the note 3 neo.
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filthykid said:
Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s
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i think samsung is not planning to release the 800 worldwide.exclusive only in korea.
my only opinion why u should go for the note 3 neo is the battery life.i have used n4 and sold my n5 for the note 3 neo.
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They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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if you are sure they will then wait for the 800.for me its far better than exynos.
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They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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The Hexa Neo is a workhorse. The Snapdragon might/might not reach you. If it does, just pray it's bands would be supported. Also, the firmware might be least updated, and compatibility issues with the roms/tweaks/root that might be available.
It's your call though. :fingers-crossed:
filthykid said:
Earlier I was thinking abt LG G Pro but now I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo. So picking SGN3Neo for the following reasons:
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed. It now costs $380, unlocked.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4. I mostly CROP images and stuff, so it is good for cropping? How's video/pics in night? Blur? or Clear?
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) It's got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) I think 720p should be fine, considering it has AMOLED display.
6) OTG, for even more space.
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I own a N3Neo and came from a Nexus 4. Pretty much everything you mentioned is a pro for the N3N3o against the Nexus 4. I love having access to a SD card again since I can load it up with music (I don't use the cloud since I listen to music on my commute to work and there are dead spots for cell service for me). Regarding the display, 720p o a 5.5 is perfectly fine.
As you can see, almost all these phones are priced quite above Neo 3, so I am toooo inclined towards the Neo as it has decent specs. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? As MANYY users are reporting firmware issues and other day-to-day issues with the phone. Like: phones shows full signals, regardless sim is inserted or not. Or, screen flickering issues. etc
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I own the Hong Kong version and I haven't had many problems with the phone. The stock 4.3 firmware is excellent. The only major issue I have is sometimes the radio doesn't pick up a signal when I go from a dead zone to a non-dead zone - turning on airplane mode and then off fixes it. Not a major annoyance.
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the Neo 3 that you suggest me not opting for it?
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Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
And ya does ti lag badly? Say like S3? (The only reason I have hated samsung phones is, LAG. Please tell me does it lag after a while?
, once the phone is filled with lotsa apps and media?
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Almost no issues with lag and I've been using the phone since mid-April of this year. The hexacore Exynos+Mali T624 seems to keep the phone moving at a good clip. I have read some people have had issue with lag, but my HK region version has been great.
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to SGN3 Neo. Please suggest.
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Try it out! I have to say it's one of the best sub-$400 phones on the market right now - great price/performance ratio and you get all the Note 3 goodies in a cheaper package.
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Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
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try disabling smart stabilization
I have a problem with shealth application, the pedometer does not calculate the number of steps, it only gives the ability to synchronize with gear manager. is that it is normal???
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try disabling smart stabilization
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Tried it with and without digital stabilisation. . Nothing different.
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t3ch7 said:
I own a N3Neo and came from a Nexus 4. Pretty much everything you mentioned is a pro for the N3N3o against the Nexus 4. I love having access to a SD card again since I can load it up with music (I don't use the cloud since I listen to music on my commute to work and there are dead spots for cell service for me). Regarding the display, 720p o a 5.5 is perfectly fine.
I own the Hong Kong version and I haven't had many problems with the phone. The stock 4.3 firmware is excellent. The only major issue I have is sometimes the radio doesn't pick up a signal when I go from a dead zone to a non-dead zone - turning on airplane mode and then off fixes it. Not a major annoyance.
Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
Almost no issues with lag and I've been using the phone since mid-April of this year. The hexacore Exynos+Mali T624 seems to keep the phone moving at a good clip. I have read some people have had issue with lag, but my HK region version has been great.
Try it out! I have to say it's one of the best sub-$400 phones on the market right now - great price/performance ratio and you get all the Note 3 goodies in a cheaper package.
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Oh boy thanks for sucha long reply. However I already bought the phone last week and this was my best decision. Moveover I got 5 more buyers who bought it. . In family and friends.
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Oh boy thanks for sucha long reply. However I already bought the phone last week and this was my best decision. Moveover I got 5 more buyers who bought it. . In family and friends.
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Haha, yea, after posting and seeing your signature, I was like "ohhh, the person already bought the Neo." haha. I'm really loving the phone even though sometimes I feel like it's a tad too big and also I wish it had LTE support in the US.
@hakz - Turning smart stabilization off worked! I don't see the "processing" status bar anymore after taking a pic.
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Haha, yea, after posting and seeing your signature, I was like "ohhh, the person already bought the Neo." haha. I'm really loving the phone even though sometimes I feel like it's a tad too big and also I wish it had LTE support in the US.
@hakz - Turning smart stabilization off worked! I don't see the "processing" status bar anymore after taking a pic.
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Oh I can't tell you how much I am loving this BIG screen. It's like I just bought myself an aeroplane haha. And that S-pen! Gosh it's a KILLER. No doubt the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo is an amazing amazinggg experience. Moreover, I don't understand the hate people have against TouchWiz. Coming from a Nexus, I know how it feels. You go crazy and jump around, when you get an android update and in real life usage, what you get IS, a new interface of the dialer, which apparently is a knock of of Windows UI. Nexus, always left me with desires... the desires of MOST simplest things which Google doesn't care much about.
BDW I am still getting those blurry images even after disabling the Image Stabilization. One of the biggest problems with Nexus Camera (apart from insanely pathetic cam quality) was, I had to keep my hands ROCK and STEADY to take a clear pic... else pictures used to come out blurry. I am seeing this somewhat in this phone too. Samsung has the best cameras in cell phones since ages. Wasn't expecting this. What's your firmware? Let me compare with mine.
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Oh I can't tell you how much I am loving this BIG screen. It's like I just bought myself an aeroplane haha. And that S-pen! Gosh it's a KILLER. No doubt the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo is an amazing amazinggg experience. Moreover, I don't understand the hate people have against TouchWiz. Coming from a Nexus, I know how it feels. You go crazy and jump around, when you get an android update and in real life usage, what you get IS, a new interface of the dialer, which apparently is a knock of of Windows UI. Nexus, always left me with desires... the desires of MOST simplest things which Google doesn't care much about.
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I don't really have a problem with TW really in normal usage - I keep things simple on my phone. Three home screens, a few widgets and the quick toggles when you drop down the notification shade has everything I need quick access too. The button that brings you to more toggles I rarely use. I feel like keeping it simple helps when "migrating" from stock Android to Touchwiz - just don't bother with all the extra doohickies Samsung bundles. My only gripe is the unnecessary complexity of Settings, but thankfully there is a search bar to quickly search for setting that's buried somewhere.
On the Neo, TW barely lags if any which is really odd since playing around with the US version of the Note 3, GS4 and GS5 I noticed lag in touchwiz on demo models in stores (maybe cuz they're on for so long and people play around with them?). But, even so, on my Neo, a whole day of using it, no lag.
BDW I am still getting those blurry images even after disabling the Image Stabilization. One of the biggest problems with Nexus Camera (apart from insanely pathetic cam quality) was, I had to keep my hands ROCK and STEADY to take a clear pic... else pictures used to come out blurry. I am seeing this somewhat in this phone too. Samsung has the best cameras in cell phones since ages. Wasn't expecting this. What's your firmware? Let me compare with mine.
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The "blurriness" I was talking about was when smart stabilization is on and I quickly move the phone while the phone is processing the image the resulting picture is not what I took, but mid-motion. I just tried out taking some photos with smart stabilization on and off and the photos are noticeably blurry with the setting off. I'd say keep the stabilization on, take a picture with somewhat steady hands and then wait for the phone to finish processing the image to get best results.
Regarding firmware I am on N7505ZHUAND2 which is the latest firmware for the Hong Kong version - that's the region phone I was shipped.
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I don't really have a problem with TW really in normal usage - I keep things simple on my phone. Three home screens, a few widgets and the quick toggles when you drop down the notification shade has everything I need quick access too. The button that brings you to more toggles I rarely use. I feel like keeping it simple helps when "migrating" from stock Android to Touchwiz - just don't bother with all the extra doohickies Samsung bundles. My only gripe is the unnecessary complexity of Settings, but thankfully there is a search bar to quickly search for setting that's buried somewhere.
On the Neo, TW barely lags if any which is really odd since playing around with the US version of the Note 3, GS4 and GS5 I noticed lag in touchwiz on demo models in stores (maybe cuz they're on for so long and people play around with them?). But, even so, on my Neo, a whole day of using it, no lag.
The "blurriness" I was talking about was when smart stabilization is on and I quickly move the phone while the phone is processing the image the resulting picture is not what I took, but mid-motion. I just tried out taking some photos with smart stabilization on and off and the photos are noticeably blurry with the setting off. I'd say keep the stabilization on, take a picture with somewhat steady hands and then wait for the phone to finish processing the image to get best results.
Regarding firmware I am on N7505ZHUAND2 which is the latest firmware for the Hong Kong version - that's the region phone I was shipped.
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Is firmware region or country specific? I see different firmwares of note 3 neo with different people. Why is that
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does your neo camera focus well in the first place?
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does your neo camera focus well in the first place?
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Yes. If you were referring to me.
filthykid said:
Yes. If you were referring to me.
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could you upload a resized sample photo? and another screenshot for the EXIF data of the photo itself :fingers-crossed:
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could you upload a resized sample photo? and another screenshot for the EXIF data of the photo itself :fingers-crossed:
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You are asking me to upload a "focused" pic taken from an 'auto-focus' camera? What will that prove to you? :s
Coming from the S8+ and I could not be happier. The camera just amazes me. I forced myself this weekend to use the modes. What a great phone.
Thoughts?
Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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I agree. It's only missing two things in my opinion.
- LED indicator
- Better front camera
I also didn't realize the benefit of having the headphone jack on the bottom until this phone.
Yeah I also prefer the headphone jack to be on the bottom.
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Yeah this makes no sense. I'm not married to this phone and want the best I can have. I honestly love this phone. I've considered sending back to get the XL 2 and that's merely for software updates. Not worth the lack in hardware, imo.
I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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I thought it was weird as well. I think I read that they were testing a Korean version for whatever reason. I'm guessing it's all that they were able to get a hold of while they tested, but it seems a bit unfair of them to not wait for a US carrier model like every other reputable publication.
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I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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All it takes to prove this right is a quick read of their opinion regarding the V30 audio/headphone jack. I know of basically a whole forum of people who would kill for a phone that has awesome audio and headphone jack. Problem is that the manufacturers can't seem to build a phone with that and everything else.
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I was a "never again" LG guy ...
So far, so good. Very happy with the V30.
In fact, for the most part, I actually like their skin over the stock Android from my Nexus. Few tweaks would really make it more useful, but no issue.
My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Camera is great, but not the best and audio output through the headphone jack is the best. I say the camera is not the best overall, but for me it kind of is because I would rather have the wide angle instead lens of 2x zoom.
Picked up my V30 from T-Mobile last night. My immediate impressions, coming from an S8 and previously a Pixel XL are that this phone is great but does have some immediate flaws.
Some initial thoughts:
- The finger print scanner is blazing fast. On par with my old OnePlus 3 and my Pixel XL. In comparison, the Samsung S8 fingerprint scanner is slow, often unresponsive, and in a horrible position.
- I work from my home office full time and I spend A LOT of time on client calls. I often have headphones plugged into my phone for these calls. I just got off of a conference call and could immediately tell that the audio output through even pretty basic in-ear headphones is significantly better than my S8 was. Voice clarity is much improved and people sound more like they are in the room with you, rather than on a conference call. This is HUGE for me. And I imagine that music quality will see this same improvement through the headphones.
- I was happy to see that there was SIGNIFICANTLY less bloatware to uninstall/disable on this phone than their was on my Samsung S8.
- The overall UI is extremely fluid and fast. The speed of opening quick settings and the notification drop down, navigating through settings, and swapping between apps is on par with my Pixel XL, which is a breath of fresh air coming from the S8. However, there is still some lag to be had within apps, but I'll discuss that below.
- The camera is excellent. I'm not seeing any blurry photos, as others have apparently seen.
The negatives...
- The stock LG dialer and messages apps are hilariously ugly. I was able to get a new theme installed, which cleaned those up a bit but it still doesn't compare to the stock Google dialer/messages apps. Future "Pixel" style themes for the V30 will likely fix this, though.
- I have seen noticeable and consistent scroll lag in some apps like Chrome, Instagram, Facebook, and even in LG's own themes app. I've changed animation scaling to .5x and enabled GPU rendering in developer settings but I haven't seen an improvement. I've only had my phone for about 12 hours at this point so I'm going to give it more time to adapt. However, if this doesn't improve and/or starts effecting more apps over time, it might actually be a deal breaker for me.
- I compared the Pixel 2 XL to the V30, side by side, in my local Verizon store. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL put the single bottom facing speaker on the V30 to complete shame. The downside is that those front facing speakers come with larger bezels, though. Unfortunately, in my short time using the V30, I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom speaker more than once.
I still have my Pixel 2 XL on order and at the moment, I don't intend to cancel it. If I find that the lag I'm seeing in some apps does not improve over time, I'll probably return the V30 and hold out for my 2 XL. I don't want to give up wireless charging or the headphone jack. But I will if I have to, in order to get a 100% lag free phone. Especially at this $800+ price point.
eduardmc said:
owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. I've tried LG's cleaner app and that doesn't help. I've tried enabling the force GPU rendering, and that doesn't help for me either. I'm hoping that future updates help out. This phone is the perfect size and feels so nice in the hand. I really don't want a different phone, so I'm going to wait and see if it gets better.
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@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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He's saying that compared to the Samsung S8/S8+/Note 8 screens, the LG V30 screen doesn't look as good. I do concur with this. I wouldn't go back to the S8 because I much prefer the overall feel and UI of the V30. However, compared to the screen on my S8, the V30's screen looks noticeably washed out. My current long term decision is between the V30 or the Pixel 2 XL, which essentially share the same screen. So this is not much of a consideration for me. However, I could actually see this being a deal breaker for some.
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[/COLOR]@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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They do replace the stock LG apps. You just have to make sure and set them as your default dialer and message apps
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. .
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
My G6 has weird, terrible lag sometimes too. A reboot does fix it, but waiting a while sometimes makes it go away too. I know this is a V30 forum, but sad to see this issue persists across these 2 devices. Its not a deal breaker for me, but sure is something that I experience way too often on a 2017 smartphone.
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
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Hello all,
I've been thinking of updating my phone(currently running Xperia M4). So I thought of buying the A5 2017. I already gathered that it's battery life is very good(important for me), however some people were disappointed by the camera. Can somebody confirm if this is true? More specifically, can you upload some pictures taken with it? Any other problems/drawbacks(I don't care much about gaming performance, which also seems to be lagging)?
Camera is pretty good as long as you keep your hands still, front camera has a range of focus, and games aren't lagging on my phone, idk about others. Battery is a beast.
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Camera is pretty good as long as you keep your hands still, front camera has a range of focus, and games aren't lagging on my phone, idk about others. Battery is a beast.
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Thank you. Can you please upload some sample photos? I've seen some on reviews, but I suspect that they might have picked the best shots(or used something like a tripod). I'd like to see what the "average" shot looks like
Here ya go, but you have to rotate most of them.
i recomand open camera ,is the best for the video and photo
The camera is OK. It's not bad but it aint great either. It would - imo - be one of the negatives of the A5. The battery is good, the screen is great and the build and feel are like premium, but the bloatware is ridiculous.
Sample images
PS if you like rooting your phone then Samsung just made it impossible after the December update.
fmboots said:
The camera is OK. It's not bad but it aint great either. It would - imo - be one of the negatives of the A5. The battery is good, the screen is great and the build and feel are like premium, but the bloatware is ridiculous.
PS if you like rooting your phone then Samsung just made it impossible after the December update.
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What do you mean by impossible? Surely just until a workaround is found?
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What do you mean by impossible? Surely just until a workaround is found?
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Hi. Samsung have locked the bootloaders in latest updates. Until a fix is born, i cant root and nothing in the below links have worked for me.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/tutorial-root-november-security-update-t3715661
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/root-december-security-update-a5-2017-t3730146
Well, to answer my own question, here are some photos I took with my new A5 2017 on my trip in Boston: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ll0SNnnnjE5oyE9P2
To any who might read this post and wondering whether to buy the phone, here's what I think after a week: Superb battery, good photos(especially macros) you can also do Photo spheres using the google camera, performance is just fine, no lags or delays. However make sure to buy a case and a screen protector soon after you buy it, because on the second day it got(albeit small) scratches, and it has been only in my pocket with nothing else inside!
The camera really sucks for me, atleast when you are snapping text documents, you have to take atleast 3 photos to later find out that the 2 are just too blury. The another problem is poor WiFi, often reconnects and gets slow, the battery seemed superb at the beginning, the updates often reduce the battery life a lot, then you get some update that fixes it and so on. Not to mention that after few months GPS is often slow, even after redowbloading the A-GPS DATA...
Camera is crap. I love redmi 5 plus camera, battery, price...
LINK FOR THE PHOTOS COMPARISON: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gbq1kvzn2ea5wih/AAAaYfF7ORpUeygfMMGKYGEra?dl=0
Pixel tend to make pictures more warm, especially those snow shot. This is however not correct, the snow doesn't look that yellowish. The redmi is too cold, so it's not correct either.
Thes eye shot is a selfie, cropped for anonymity.
I received my pixel 2 xl and how can I say, I've never been so disappointed by a new phone ever (from the blue shift to speaker rattling at medium volume and pictures quality)
The worst part is the pictures it take, they look less good than my Redmi note 5 that i paid 150$.
My redmi is using a custom Gcam, the contrast and everything look similar to the pixel but there's much less noise and things look sharper (I'm not even talking about selfie in low light, the difference are staggering)
Anyway my question is, I know there's some custom Gcam on the pixel too. Do we need to be rooted to install them?? Do they make the pictures look better than stock Gcam. How is the noise control? Does everything work on those custom Gcam? I read about Cstark Gcam, but what about the other?
Thank you
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I received my pixel 2 xl and how can I say, I've never been so disappointed by a new phone ever (from the blue shift to speaker rattling at medium volume and pictures quality)
The worst part is the pictures it take, they look less good than my Redmi note 5 that i paid 150$.
My redmi is using a custom Gcam, the contrast and everything look similar to the pixel but there's much less noise and things look sharper (I'm not even talking about selfie in low light, the difference are staggering)
Anyway my question is, I know there's some custom Gcam on the pixel too. Do we need to be rooted to install them?? Do they make the pictures look better than stock Gcam. How is the noise control? Does everything work on those custom Gcam? I read about Cstark Gcam, but what about the other?
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Your Xiaomi's camera, even if with gcam, is not even comparable to Pixel's.
If it's like you say, your device must be faulty, ask for a refund/replacement.
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Your Xiaomi's camera, even if with gcam, is not even comparable to Pixel's.
If it's like you say, your device must be faulty, ask for a refund/replacement.
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So the front camera and back camera are faulty?
The photos i take are similar to what we can see in pixel 2 sample i found on the web, but that's still noisy and grainy compared to what custom Gcam can make even in a cheap Chinese phone.
I don't think it's faulty, just normal Gcam that was tuned for speed to the detriment of quality. I'm even starting too think they Google intentionally cripple the picture quality of pixel 2 to not compete with future Gen.
Anyway, anyone have experience with custom Gcam on the pixel? I'm in the edge about returning it...
hahahaha wtf?! Redmi Note 5 better than the Pixel 2 at taking pictures??? Really?!
You do realize you're talking about one of the best smartphone cameras in the market, right? Just read any decent review or photo shoot comparison.
Either the entire world is wrong or you are. Hmmm I wonder which one is true.
von_block said:
I received my pixel 2 xl and how can I say, I've never been so disappointed by a new phone ever (from the blue shift to speaker rattling at medium volume and pictures quality)
The worst part is the pictures it take, they look less good than my Redmi note 5 that i paid 150$.
My redmi is using a custom Gcam, the contrast and everything look similar to the pixel but there's much less noise and things look sharper (I'm not even talking about selfie in low light, the difference are staggering)
Anyway my question is, I know there's some custom Gcam on the pixel too. Do we need to be rooted to install them?? Do they make the pictures look better than stock Gcam. How is the noise control? Does everything work on those custom Gcam? I read about Cstark Gcam, but what about the other?
Thank you
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Don't talk if u don't know what you are saying, please
hthiengo said:
hahahaha wtf?! Redmi Note 5 better than the Pixel 2 at taking pictures??? Really?!
You do realize you're talking about one of the best smartphone cameras in the market, right? Just read any decent review or photo shoot comparison.
Either the entire world is wrong or you are. Hmmm I wonder which one is true.
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I'm not talking stock camera, it's incredibly bad you're right, I'm talking customised Gcam.
Yes the pictures are currently better than the pixel. I spent my whole day yesterday comparing it and the only place where pixel is better is at guessing color temperature. However this can be fixed in 5 seconds in snapseed.
Anyway, nobody can answer my question. I will need to reopen the box and try to install custom cam... However i can't unlock the bootloader or root or I won't be able to return the phone.
I should probably try to post it in another section, people here don't seem to know how Gcam work.
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Why are you surprised?
Gcam on pixel phone stack only about 10 pictures when doing it's HDR+ where custom one on any phone can stack 32 pictures! The result is less noise, that's how Gcam work and that's why i get less noise on the redmi. The downside of it is it's much slower, it take about 5-10 seconds to process the picture, sometime more in low light, but the result is totally worth it.
I'm quite sure a custom Gcam on the pixel will be better and faster (especially if it can use the dedicated Gcam processor) than what i can get on the Xiaomi. Stacking 32 pictures with the pixel core should not take longer than 2 seconds! I'll investigate.
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I'm not talking stock camera, it's incredibly bad you're right, I'm talking customised Gcam.
Yes the pictures are currently better than the pixel. I spent my whole day yesterday comparing it and the only place where pixel is better is at guessing color temperature. However this can be fixed in 5 seconds in snapseed.
Anyway, nobody can answer my question. I will need to reopen the box and try to install custom cam... However i can't unlock the bootloader or root or I won't be able to return the phone.
I should probably try to post it in another section, people here don't seem to know how Gcam work.
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Since you're saying, it must be true. Why don't you go ahead and post some of those pictures so we can compare them as well (with metadata, of course)? I wanna see those horrible photos and compare them with the magnificent ones you're taking with the Redmi Note 5.
There's not one single photo I've taken with my Pixel 2 XL during this entire year that's as bad as you described. Not ONE. So, please, stop trolling around.
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Why are you surprised?
Gcam on pixel phone stack only about 10 pictures when doing it's HDR+ where custom one on any phone can stack 32 pictures! The result is less noise, that's how Gcam work and that's why i get less noise on the redmi.
I'm quite sure a custom Gcam on the pixel will be better and faster (especially if it can use the dedicated Gcam processor) than what i can get on the Xiaomi. I'll investigate.
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We are talking about quality, not about number of shots in hdr^^
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Since you're saying, it must be true. Why don't you go ahead and post some of those pictures so we can compare them as well (with metadata, of course)? I wanna see those horrible photos and compare them with the magnificent ones you're taking with the Redmi Note 5.
There's not one single photo I've taken with my Pixel 2 XL during this entire year that's as bad as you described. Not ONE. So, please, stop trolling around.
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That's not my goal, but when I'm back home I'll show some exemple.
Anyway, I'm losing my time here, I'll post in a place where they know how custom Gcam work on the pixel.
Yakusha said:
We are talking about quality, not about number of shots in hdr^^
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Ok, nevermind, babye
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Ok, nevermind, babye
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W8 a second please now I'm interested..
Are you talking about resolution, colours or luminosity?
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W8 a second please now I'm interested?..
Are you talking about resolution, colours or luminosity?
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They are both the same. Like i said pixel is better at temperature guessing though (even though i think it make things a bit warmer).
The only difference is noise. That's why i want a custom Gcam to stack more picture thus reducing noise. I don't care if it take 5 seconds to process the image. Anyway I'll try at home.
I'll post my experiment later!
Just a suggestion for the OP: if you just ramble on about a Redmi being better than the Pixel 2 XL at taking shots with both cameras, you'll only be laughed at in this forum and anywhere on the internet.
If you want to start a reasonable and hopefully productive discussion, just upload some comparative shots taken by you
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Just a suggestion for the OP: if you just ramble on about a Redmi being better than the Pixel 2 XL at taking shots with both cameras, you'll only be laughed at in this forum and anywhere on the internet.
If you want to start a reasonable and hopefully productive discussion, just upload some comparative shots taken by you
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I've unpacked the return box of my phone and configuring it as we speak.
I got this Pixel for 160$US during a black Friday promo in Canada. If I'm thinking about returning it, is because something is really wrong.
Hooray.
I've downloaded custom Gcam. No need to root!
The result look very promising.
Already much less noise and much sharper compared to stock Gcam! I might keep the phone after all!
As the saying goes, "Pics or it didn't happen"
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No, hang on.. I believe the OP's claims that his Chinese phone takes better pictures than the 2 XL. I also believe in fairies and goblins..
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No, hang on.. I believe the OP's claims that his Chinese phone takes better pictures than the 2 XL. I also believe in fairies and goblins..
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Whatever, yes stock cam is not the best.
And yes, custom Gcam improve the performance.
Anyway, I decided to keep the pixel finally.
I fixed the rattling sound by pushing the speaker grill and I'm getting used to the blue shift.
I'll try to give sample photos tomorrow of pixel vs Redmi. The difference will surprise many in here! I'm still hesitating about which one is better... People think pixel are great at pictures because of hardware but really, it's all about the software and the AI algorithm.
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Whatever, yes stock cam is not the best.
And yes, custom Gcam improve the performance.
Anyway, I decided to keep the pixel finally.
I fixed the rattling sound by pushing the speaker grill and I'm getting used to the blue shift.
I'll try to give sample photos tomorrow of pixel vs Redmi. The difference will surprise many in here! I'm still hesitating about which one is better... People think pixel are great at pictures because of hardware but really, it's all about the software and the AI algorithm.
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I don't think it's another thread/forum you're looking to for answers. I am a semi professional photographer, in the sense that it is my side job and took classes for it. The past 2 years I have tested a good 10+ phone cameras ranging from Mate10pro, 1+, G7/G6, Ipxs, etc. I ended up with the pixel because of it's amazing photo quality. Anyway, all you have to do is post comparison pictures, without them your statement is worthless.
" My Samsung J3 takes better pictures then a Nikon D7500 can somebody explain this. I won't provide pics to prove it just take my word. Ok I'll provide pics, tomorrow. "