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Hi All,
I got LG G3 D855 international version from eBay last week, I'm wondering if I can get LTE, or H+ network on the phone. On "Network Mode I can see "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" listed , when I choose it the signal bars on the notification area start looping, after that it switch back to "GSM/WCDMA" option !
I added a new APN for LTE , but still not working on LTE.
According to T-Mobile coverage map , my area is support 4G /LTE network . The phone is rooted , software version: V10b-GLOBAL-COM (For Hong Kong)
I can get 10-12MB download speed on H, I guessing it will be a way faster on H+ , or LTE.
Any idea about how to get LTE to work?
Thank you,
I'm surprised HSPA is even working, you must be in an area where they moved it to 1900 (Band 2). The D855 model doesn't support the AWS band, also known as Band 4 or the 1700 frequency (so says GSM Arena anyway) . This band is where T-Mobile has their primary network deployments these days. That means no HSPA+ (that's only on Band 4, not Band 2), and no LTE at all.
Bottom line is I don't think you want to be using the Euro D855 model on T-Mobile USA network. Not the right tool for the job.
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I think it should still work. Frequencies tmo supports (straight from website):
4G LTE : Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700 MHz)
4G HSPA+: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G HSPA: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
The phone supports 2100MHz and 700MHz, and not 1900 or 1700. I just did a speed test and get 4Mbps reporting it used HSPA+. If that works, I'm not sure why LTE wouldn't unless it *has* to have the 1700 to get LTE.
Edit: here's some info on the 700MHz band http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum. I'll try it when I'm on vacation. I live in NC unfortunately.
Hi, I use LG G3 D855 and looking for solution to get LTE on T-Mobile USA. After some research inside the forum, I decided to try to use CyanogenMod (CM 12.1) on my system.
It works well and now I can enjoy LTE on T-Mobile network, even though not pretty stable yet, but I am good with that since the OS still ongoing development.
You can try to download the OS on Cyanogen official website, and use the latest update available.
In order to confirm if you get LTE signal, beside check on your LTE sign, you can use LTE Discovery apps whenever you lost LTE connection and try to reconnect on an LTE signal.
Oh, forgot to mention, I am located in College Station, TX.
Beware: LTE Band 4 (1700/2100 combo) it's not the same LTE Band 1 (2100 only) that LG G3 D855 supports. Better talk using band numbers not frequencies.
Considering selling my at&t note 4 when my pre-order is filled and buying a T-Mobile version to use on at&t.
Any reception issues?
No issues for me at all. Get great service everywhere, including lte
I was planning on doing so, but I noticed the T-Mobile variant is missing of the LTE Bands that the AT&T one has. Not sure if that will create any problems down the road. Any thoughts on if that matters?
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ARHMogul said:
I was planning on doing so, but I noticed the T-Mobile variant is missing of the LTE Bands that the AT&T one has. Not sure if that will create any problems down the road. Any thoughts on if that matters?
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ATT is not using those 2 bands in the US. (20 and 29 lte) It might be for international use in which case I'd rather have the tmobile ones. Anyway, according to Wikipedia they don't even own spectrum in one of those bands so deployment is years off even if they decide to do it. Plus the note 4 would have to go through the FCC again because it wasn't approved to run on those bands in the USA. Those extra bands are not anything to be worried about.
EDIT: Ok, I found some more info. There are no deployments of band 29 in the US yet. Band 29 is downlink only and is used with band 4. This will be AT&T's LTE advanced setup.
Thanks for the info! Time to go to TMobile and get me an unlocked Note 4.. Will they unlock them for you right in the store or no?
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mircury said:
ATT is not using those 2 bands in the US. (20 and 29 lte) It might be for international use in which case I'd rather have the tmobile ones. Anyway, according to Wikipedia they don't even own spectrum in one of those bands so deployment is years off even if they decide to do it. Plus the note 4 would have to go through the FCC again because it wasn't approved to run on those bands in the USA. Those extra bands are not anything to be worried about.
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band 29 is for LTE-Advance
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band 29 is for LTE-Advance
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Ya, been reading up on it. I still think it will be a while before it gets deployed and probably if you're not in a big city you'll have to wait longer like the wait for LTE.
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ARHMogul said:
Thanks for the info! Time to go to TMobile and get me an unlocked Note 4.. Will they unlock them for you right in the store or no?
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No you need to use cellunlocker.net or a similar service.
Thanks for everyone's help. I'm trying to find this information on the Internet, but some of it is like Greek to me.
What bands does att use in US?
What bands does the T-Mobile note 4 handle?
What bands will not be possible on the T-Mobile note 4? Bands 20+29?
Sorry for the questions, just trying to learn and you guys seem like you know your stuff.
ATT Uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 850, 1900 MHz
LTE: Band 4, 17 (29 for LTE-Advanced)
Tmobile uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 1700, 1900 Mhz
LTE: Band 4, 12
Tmobile Note 4 Supports:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850)
LTE: Band 4 (1700), Band 12 (700a), Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 8 (900), Band 17 (700bc)
Tmobile Note 4 does not support band 29 but imo it's a small price to pay for an unlocked bootloader. Plus, there are no deployments of ATT's LTE-Advanced network (Band 29/4) in the US yet and depending on where you live it could take years to reach you.
mircury said:
ATT Uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 850, 1900 MHz
LTE: Band 4, 17 (29 for LTE-Advanced; Not deployed yet in 2014)
Tmobile uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 1700, 1900 Mhz
LTE: 4, 12
Tmobile Note 4 Supports:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850)
LTE: Band 4 (1700), Band 12 (700a), Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 8 (900), Band 17 (700bc)
Tmobile Note 4 does not support band 29 but imo it's a small price to pay for an unlocked bootloader. Plus, there are no deployments of ATT's LTE-Advanced network (Band 29/4) in the US yet and depending on where you live it could take years to reach you.
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This is super helpful.
So let me ask you, when you say the T-Mobile version is missing the advanced lte bands (20&29), does that mean the phone will only miss the benefit of the next gen lte speeds?
So for example, 20&29 go live in my area, I have the tmo version, I'll still have lte just not super/advanced lte?
Thank you again for your time and expertise!
yogi217 said:
This is super helpful.
So let me ask you, when you say the T-Mobile version is missing the advanced lte bands (20&29), does that mean the phone will only miss the benefit of the next gen lte speeds?
So for example, 20&29 go live in my area, I have the tmo version, I'll still have lte just not super/advanced lte?
Thank you again for your time and expertise!
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Ok first thing, band 29 is download only so it is used in conjunction with band 4. Band 20 is for who knows what but I haven't seen any news about ATT's plans for that band. It's not a part of ATT's LTE Advanced plans as far as I can tell. It may be there for international support only.
Yes you are right that you will continue to get LTE just not LTE advanced, and that might be a year or most likely longer before it reaches you. Think of the timeline for ATT's LTE rollout. I researched a bit today and found that Chicago supposedly has the first actual deployment.
Also, ATT has said they are not doing their deployment of LTE Advanced to increase user speed. It is just for network capacity. So you might not see speed increases at all according to ATT's presentation at Mobile World Congress. Tmobile is in a better position capacity wise because it owns more AWS spectrum (higher frequency = faster data). They are deploying wideband LTE.
mircury said:
Ok first thing, band 29 is download only so it is used in conjunction with band 4. Band 20 is for who knows what but I haven't seen any news about ATT's plans for that band. It's not a part of ATT's LTE Advanced plans as far as I can tell. It may be there for international support only.
Yes you are right that you will continue to get LTE just not LTE advanced, and that might be a year or most likely longer before it reaches you. Think of the timeline for ATT's LTE rollout. I researched a bit today and found that Chicago supposedly has the first actual deployment.
Also, ATT has said that they are not doing their deployment of LTE Advanced to increase user speed. It is just for network capacity. So you might not see speed increases at all according to ATT's presentation at Mobile World Congress. Tmobile is in a better position capacity wise because is owns more AWS spectrum (higher frequency = faster data). They are deploying wideband LTE.
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You da man! Thank you for your help and knowledge!
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Can any of you with a T-Mobile device on a different network tell me what service you used to unlock your phone? I saw a mention of cellunlocker.net on one thread, but it says on their site it could take up to 15 days to get the unlock for the T-Mobile Note 4. Is this typical? I've never used one of these services, so I don't know what the better routes are. Thanks!
Att lte advanced has been deployed in NYC since the iPhone 6. It's fast but tmobile is faster I think.
Juicyboot said:
Can any of you with a T-Mobile device on a different network tell me what service you used to unlock your phone? I saw a mention of cellunlocker.net on one thread, but it says on their site it could take up to 15 days to get the unlock for the T-Mobile Note 4. Is this typical? I've never used one of these services, so I don't know what the better routes are. Thanks!
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Cellunlocker.net got me my code in less than an hour even though it was 8 pm when I requested it.
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Cellunlocker.net got me my code in less than an hour even though it was 8 pm when I requested it.
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How is network performance using the TMO version on AT&T? Last year with the Note 3, I had such horrible LTE reception I took it back. T-Mobile devices are not optimized for band 17 support. It comes down to: you want a phone that gets a great signal, or you want a phone you can root/rom.
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How is network performance using the TMO version on AT&T? Last year with the Note 3, I had such horrible LTE reception I took it back. T-Mobile devices are not optimized for band 17 support. It comes down to: you want a phone that gets a great signal, or you want a phone you can root/rom.
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From what I have seen everything should be working fine. If you live in a city that has LTEa you will miss or on improved performance with band 29, but that should not effect most people.
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Cellunlocker.net wants $30. Anyone of a cheaper place that is just as reliable?
Would a blocked tmobile note 4 with regional unlock work on att ?
Hi All
Just to add my 2 cents...
I went from a At&T Note3 to TMO Note4
Just put my Note 3 Sim into the Note 4 and am up and running for about a week now...
When I log in to my ATT online account it still shows The Note 3 though but as I said all is well for now.
I have seen contradictory reports on the FCC filing, so what is the truth- does the Pixel 2 XL support bande 71 or not?
thanks,
Why don't you go to the source and find out yourself?
aaronc_98 said:
I have seen contradictory reports on the FCC filing, so what is the truth- does the Pixel 2 XL support bande 71 or not?
thanks,
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No
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
flex360 said:
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Where does it say band 71?
flex360 said:
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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You might want to get your eyes checked, there is no band 71 support. I believe the only phone this year to support it is the v30.
flex360 said:
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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For some reason when I ordered the unlocked one I did not see that many bands supported on the Google site. Maybe they updated it after. The more the better
I feel pretty much 100% sure that the Pixel does support band 71 and will never officially support it. The FCC filing for the Pixel clearly shows no support for band 71:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=tL+QG5ST3W6FkZ/OqTI25A==&fcc_id=NM8G011A
Click on "Test Report-HAC-RF.pdf" to download the report. Scroll to page 5 to see the bands.
The phone will not operate on a band that the FCC has not approved it to operate on.
Yeah, it's a bummer and seems dumb though.
cb474 said:
I feel pretty much 100% sure that the Pixel does support band 71 and will never officially support it. The FCC filing for the Pixel clearly shows no support for band 71:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=tL+QG5ST3W6FkZ/OqTI25A==&fcc_id=NM8G011A
Click on "Test Report-HAC-RF.pdf" to download the report. Scroll to page 5 to see the bands.
The phone will not operate on a band that the FCC has not approved it to operate on.
Yeah, it's a bummer and seems dumb though.
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Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.
I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
It's been stated somewhere else that the phone must have the hardware to support it and the Pixel 2 may not. Only the LG V30 supports it at this time. We don't even know if the Pixel's Snapdragon is the updated one Qualcomm said would support band 71... the same one in the V30. But if it is, the modem, antenna, amps, filters, and all the other necessary hardware has to be there as well. It's unlikely at this point that it will support it given the phone's hardware certification date which was prior to band 71 being certified by 3gpp/fcc.
hartleyshc said:
Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.
I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
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It was LTE that was turned off on the Nexus 4. It had the amplifier for it but was not certified by FCC. It is absolutely possible that changing radio band could enable band 71 on the pixel 2. And it may be easy enough for Google to enable it later if the phone actually has hardware for it.
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hartleyshc said:
Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.
I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
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As someone who is currently still using a Nexus 4 I can tell you that (1) it was band 4 and maybe a couple others, but definitel not 12 which came years later, (2) it was never officially supported, (3) enabling it was not simple and eventually got mostly killed by Nougat.
Also, the Nexus 4 was unusual in that it was essentially just an LG Optimus G in a slightly different body. The Optimus supported LTE, but it was just turned off for whatever reason the the Nexus 4. I don't think it is that simple with the Pixel 2.
Anyway, my point was the the Pixel 2 does not officially support band 71 (as can be seen in the FCC filing) so Google will never enable it, because that would be illegal. I thought about saying something about maybe it will get hacked into existence like with the Nexus 4, but that has happened on such a tiny handful of phones ever that I think it is extremely unlikely to the point of it's just not going to happen.
I do think it's ridiculous that a phone that has not even shipped yet is essentially already obsolete on T-Mobile's network (which is also true for the new iPhone 8 and X and every other phone except the V30). They know about these network changes years in advance. The Snapdragon 835 chipset obviously can be configured for band 71, since the V30 does it. So why don't they just plan ahead for these things? I guess because they would love to have people just buy another phone in a year.
cb474 said:
As someone who is currently still using a Nexus 4 I can tell you that (1) it was band 4 and maybe a couple others, but definitel not 12 which came years later, (2) it was never officially supported, (3) enabling it was not simple and eventually got mostly killed by Nougat.
Also, the Nexus 4 was unusual in that it was essentially just an LG Optimus G in a slightly different body. The Optimus supported LTE, but it was just turned off for whatever reason the the Nexus 4. I don't think it is that simple with the Pixel 2.
Anyway, my point was the the Pixel 2 does not officially support band 71 (as can be seen in the FCC filing) so Google will never enable it, because that would be illegal. I thought about saying something about maybe it will get hacked into existence like with the Nexus 4, but that has happened on such a tiny handful of phones ever that I think it is extremely unlikely to the point of it's just not going to happen.
I do think it's ridiculous that a phone that has not even shipped yet is essentially already obsolete on T-Mobile's network (which is also true for the new iPhone 8 and X and every other phone except the V30). They know about these network changes years in advance. The Snapdragon 835 chipset obviously can be configured for band 71, since the V30 does it. So why don't they just plan ahead for these things? I guess because they would love to have people just buy another phone in a year.
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Probably because 600mhz/band 71 auction only finished in recent months and these devices are designed about a year ago. No one knew how the auction would go, like who would win and how it would be integrated into existing networks. Heck Qualcomm only added support for it back in April 2017 and they said it requires additional hardware. If the OEM couldn't change their design in time for release they would not be able to make the change. I'm sure they would love to be able to tout the support for it if it would give them some extra sales but sometimes things are too far along already. The V30 was announced back in Aug and it still hasn't actually shipped for tmobile so it's possible LG had the time and was willing to add support at the last minute which caused the delays.
Band 71 is only available in a few markets anyway, so it is now a big deal right now. Some markets won't have band 71 until around the time the Pixel 3 comes out
NO band 71 for any phones released this year besides the v30
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NO band 71 for any phones released this year besides the v30
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According to Tmobile, Samsung will have a phone with band 71 support later this year. It will most likely be a mid-range phone. We'll probably see a more major adoption in 2018. Part of this could also be T-mobile's fault. Their initial rollout schedule was supposed to start in 2018 but they accelerated it for 2017, pushing out test sites 2 months after receiving the licenses from the FCC. They are simply moving too fast for most companies to catch up, which can be a good and bad thing, a good thing in the long run for those who use t-mobile.
yea, even though the 600 MHz band is still pretty limited in a ton of areas... i would love to have more coverage in very rural areas and having that band would certainly be awesome.. and for the most part.. and actual factor in wanting to hold out until the Pixel 3...
because Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.
alas... the camera as well as the trade-in offer Google is offering for the Pixel I have now ultimately won me over and bit the bullet.. i'm getting the Pixel XL 2.
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yea, even though the 600 MHz band is still pretty limited in a ton of areas... i would love to have more coverage in very rural areas and having that band would certainly be awesome.. and for the most part.. and actual factor in wanting to hold out until the Pixel 3...
because Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.
alas... the camera as well as the trade-in offer Google is offering for the Pixel I have now ultimately won me over and bit the bullet.. i'm getting the Pixel XL 2.
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Well if Google keeps the current trade in going and Tmobile keeps trying to attract Pixel users, it shouldn't cost you much to upgrade to the Pixel 3 next year
Ricey said:
According to Tmobile, Samsung will have a phone with band 71 support later this year. It will most likely be a mid-range phone. We'll probably see a more major adoption in 2018. Part of this could also be T-mobile's fault. Their initial rollout schedule was supposed to start in 2018 but they accelerated it for 2017, pushing out test sites 2 months after receiving the licenses from the FCC. They are simply moving too fast for most companies to catch up, which can be a good and bad thing, a good thing in the long run for those who use t-mobile.
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S8 active is rumored to be that phone.
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Ricey said:
Probably because 600mhz/band 71 auction only finished in recent months and these devices are designed about a year ago. No one knew how the auction would go, like who would win and how it would be integrated into existing networks. Heck Qualcomm only added support for it back in April 2017 and they said it requires additional hardware. If the OEM couldn't change their design in time for release they would not be able to make the change. I'm sure they would love to be able to tout the support for it if it would give them some extra sales but sometimes things are too far along already. The V30 was announced back in Aug and it still hasn't actually shipped for tmobile so it's possible LG had the time and was willing to add support at the last minute which caused the delays.
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The annoucement by T-Mobile of the results of the auction was in April, but my understanding is that the actual auction was complete in January. So the industry has known all year T-Mobile would be using band 71. Given that some phone companies roll out new phones every six months (Motorola has being doing this lately) that should have been plenty of time to adopt the design of the Pixel and Note 8 and other recent phones.
I think the reality is the phone manufacturers just don't care. It would incur extra costs to revise a design. They have their own process. No one except extreme gadget nerds know about these things. They just roll out phones on their own schedule and have zero incentive to do something that would prevent people from having to buy a new phone sooner rather than later.
edd247 said:
Band 71 is only available in a few markets anyway, so it is now a big deal right now. Some markets won't have band 71 until around the time the Pixel 3 comes out
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By the end of 2018 T-Mobile's rollout should be complete. They are already ahead of schedule. And it is going to be a huge part of their entire national network. A high end phone like the Pixel should not be obsolete on a carrier's network, within a year or less.
SquallLHeart said:
Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.
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The LG V30 uses the Snapdragon 835 and has band 71. This is not a 835 vs 836 issue.
Any reason why my Pixel 2 XL will not connect to Verizon's Band 4? I get all of the other bands, but not Band 4.
BuffLG said:
Any reason why my Pixel 2 XL will not connect to Verizon's Band 4? I get all of the other bands, but not Band 4.
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How are you determining which band your on?
Not trying to be sarcastic, I am truly curious. I too am on Big Red, but couldn't tell you what band I'm on
@Badger50: Answer to your question is at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
@BuffLG: Verizon's band 4 may be widespread but it is used to provide added capacity to the network. If the cellular traffic in your location isn't heavy enough, you may never see band 4 even though the P2XL supports it.
I use Signal check to see the bands. Or LTE Discovery.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@Badger50: Answer to your question is at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
@BuffLG: Verizon's band 4 may be widespread but it is used to provide added capacity to the network. If the cellular traffic in your location isn't heavy enough, you may never see band 4 even though the P2XL supports it.
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Much obliged kind sir. I do know/remember that I'm usually on band 13, but was curious to know how to check it. Thanks again :good::good:
Lol with LTE Discovery it says I'm on ATT band 12, while signal check shows band 17.
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Signal Check Pro easiest way.
Band 13 is Verizon's original LTE band has furthest range (700 mhz spectrum). Band 4 (1700 mhz) and 2 (1900 mhz) are their AWS spectrum.
Band 2 also has the highest capacity. Usually deployed in the most congested areas first.
Band 2 will technically be the fastest. Will probably be the hardest to connect to, but if you're close enough to a tower and getting Band 2 service, you're golden. I've seen speeds close to 100 MBPS on Band 2
I'd bet a nickel you're not seeing band 4 because of this bug: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37136986
turboencab said:
I'd bet a nickel you're not seeing band 4 because of this bug: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37136986
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Reading through everything, most people are having issues with T-Mobiles LTE band 66 showing up as band 3.
fiffan86 said:
Reading through everything, most people are having issues with T-Mobiles LTE band 66 showing up as band 3.
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This bug is relevant on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile but not Sprint (I believe) as they don't have Band 4 and/or 66. T-Mobile turned on MFBI at least several months (maybe a year?) before Verizon and AT&T did.
Again I don't know for sure if it's related to what you're seeing but it does "smell" that way. Band 4 in the Phoenix area almost always shows up as a Band 2 EARFCN that Verizon doesn't own when using Signal Check Pro as it is being reported incorrectly by Android. The EARFCN is correct under the same conditions using Network Signal Guru since it reads directly from the Qualcomm chip.
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Any reason why my Pixel 2 XL will not connect to Verizon's Band 4? I get all of the other bands, but not Band 4.
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I always got band 4 until the last couple weeks .. I now get Band 3 instead of band 4 which seems to be faster if I get a strong enough signal.. Band 3 doesn't seem to be as strong a signal as Band 4 though.. Band 4 was always displaying as XLTE where Band 3 displays as LTE.. my old Moto Pure still gets Band 4 so I really don't understand why the Pixel no longer will get it! Got to be by design by Verizon, me thinks!!
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I always got band 4 until the last couple weeks .. I now get Band 3 instead of band 4 which seems to be faster if I get a strong enough signal.. Band 3 doesn't seem to be as strong a signal as Band 4 though.. Band 4 was always displaying as XLTE where Band 3 displays as LTE.. my old Moto Pure still gets Band 4 so I really don't understand why the Pixel no longer will get it! Got to be by design by Verizon, me thinks!!
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That's the exact issue @turboencab is talking about. There is no Band 3 LTE in the USA. You are seeing Band 3 because of an Android OS/Qualcomm bug that cuts off EARFCN values above 65536. Band 4 can be "displayed" as Band 66 and most operators choose to do this now. Band 66 EARFCN values are above 65536.
Tldr; there is no Band 3 in the US. You are still connected to Band 4. Apps aren't able to display the correct band due to an OS bug.
Try to use CellMapper as a tool to see what you're connected to. The devs for that app can "correct" this issue based off some assumptions. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cellmapper.net.cellmapper
Hello everyone.
New owner of a note 10+ exynos, I notice that the reception of the signal which was 4 bars with my xiaomi mi9 fell to 1 bar with the note 10+.
It's super annoying to see that a phone at this price works less than a xiaomi no?
Here are the features of the phone:
Base band : N975FXXS1ASJ2
Kernel : 4.14.113-16926798
Software : SAOMC_SM-N975F_OGC_FTM_PP_0011
Does anyone have that kind of problem and I can solve it?
fanfan7110 said:
Hello everyone.
New owner of a note 10+ exynos, I notice that the reception of the signal which was 4 bars with my xiaomi mi9 fell to 1 bar with the note 10+.
It's super annoying to see that a phone at this price works less than a xiaomi no?
Here are the features of the phone:
Base band : N975FXXS1ASJ2
Kernel : 4.14.113-16926798
Software : SAOMC_SM-N975F_OGC_FTM_PP_0011
Does anyone have that kind of problem and I can solve it?
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I have 2 potential answers.....1st is that both phones are getting the same signal strength in db's, I've seen some people report that....the note (exynos) just is representing the signal strength with less bars...but actual signal strength is the same.
2nd answer are there any missing bands on the note that your carrier uses? Have you confirmed that all your carrier bands are supported by the note?
Again check db levels and recheck band support.
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Signal bars are really inaccurate
1) does the phone support the primary band for you carrier, if not you bought the wrong phone(or have wrong carrier)
2) put the two hones side by side and run speedtest.net on both. Bars are Placebos, trust bandwidth tests.
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1) does the phone support the primary band for you carrier, if not you bought the wrong phone(or have wrong carrier)
2) put the two hones side by side and run speedtest.net on both. Bars are Placebos, trust bandwidth tests.
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First, thanks for all these answers. I will look for an application that will give me the power level and put it on both phones. I'll be right after
Edit :
So, this iss the result :
Note 10+ =
Sim1 Free : Connection Edge only : -107 dBm
Sim2 SFR : Connection 4G : - 140 dBm
Pocophone =
Sim1 Free : Connection Edge only : -96 dBm
Sim2 SFR : Connection 4G : -84 dBm
We can see that the signal force is note the same at all
i also verified the band :
B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B3 (1800), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900)
Free is on 900 and 1800
SFR is on 900, 1800, 2600
Hi,
Free uses 2600 MHz too.
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fanfan7110 said:
First, thanks for all these answers. I will look for an application that will give me the power level and put it on both phones. I'll be right after
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So, this iss the result :
Note 10+ =
Sim1 Free : Connection Edge only : -107 dBm
Sim2 SFR : Connection 4G : - 140 dBm
Pocophone =
Sim1 Free : Connection Edge only : -96 dBm
Sim2 SFR : Connection 4G : -84 dBm
We can see that the signal force is note the same at all
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You can't compare them if they are not using the same network (both 4G).
Free with 2G (Edge) uses "roaming" Orange carrier antennas, not theirs, since they don't have the licence to exploit 2G networks.
You need to check which antennas you are connected to for both carriers and using the same network.
The RNC Mobile app can help to figure it out.
Nastrahl said:
Hi,
Free uses 2600 MHz too.
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You can't compare them if they are not using the same network (both 4G).
Free with 2G (Edge) uses "roaming" Orange carrier antennas, not theirs, since they don't have the licence to exploit 2G networks.
You need to check which antennas you are connected to for both carriers and using the same network.
The RNC Mobile app can help to figure it out.
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I already use the same network, you can see it :
Note 10+
Sim2 SFR : Connection 4G : - 140 dBm
Pocofone
Sim2 SFR : Connection 4G : -84 dBm
It's clear that with same network , there are very big difference !
I think that note 10+ connect to band 20 and Antenna in my country is more powerfull in Band 3.Bbut with the menu "servicemode" it is possible to change the band and force band 3 (1800) but I tried the codes found on google and it does not work on the note 10 ..
I may have opened another topic for that .. ?
I can second that. Changed from a Pocophone to a Note+ this week.
Never had signal issues with the pocophone. Now with the Note 10+
I have between 102 and 115dBm.
Network: TMobile Austria.
Very dissapointing.
My one plus 6t gets better signal for me as well.
Better than all my notes and S10.
I digged a little deeper yesterday by using signal analyzing tool and for me it looks like the problem is that the Note does not connect to the nearest "Cell tower". This seems to be the case when I am in my office and when I am at home as well.
Since I have absolutely no clue about cell/signal handling etc. my research journey will come to an end here. Maybe someone with more skills in this regards can pick this up and see if it is correct.
I also found this thread at Samsung community forum:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note10/Note-10-Plus-Signal-Signal-Issues/td-p/815987
I went from a Sony Xperia XZ with fabulous reception to my Note 8 which was really poor. After 2 years with the Note 8 my new Note 12 Plus 5G has noticeably better receptlon. Whether it's the best out there is debatable but it's certainly an upgrade on the Note 8 when it comes to reception.
I have a N975F. Im using it on T-mobile in the US. I understand this device wasnt made to be used here, but I also have the same issue.
I put my Note 10 Plus 5g next to it, and the signal strength of the Exynos model isnt that good. I also tested it next to an s10 plus, same results. Also, data speeds arent as fast as its snapdragon counterparts.
Could it be because of its SAR? Samsung always got one of the lowest I knew: 0.19 W/kg (head), 1.40 W/kg (body).
I have A 975F, if I set auto selection of network, It ALWAYS chooses 4G, even if 3G or 2G have stronger signal levels, for this reason, I keep it in 3G, which always has the max level, I use 2G/3G setting when for road travels(some 500-800 km) and 4G only when I need data connections , my device is carrier branded and I use it precisely with its asociated carrier, so it works flawlessly wherever I go in my country Mexico, which by no means is little in extension