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ok guys i got a simple question
here is what i plain to use it for
School (industrial design major) i use a few autodesk apps on my note 3 and Spen makes it easy.
Games (the basic racing type + clash of clans i do own a Moga Pro Power)
the web. every once in a blue moon i might use it for media
I can't make up my mind do i get this and Hope Samsung fixes the Touch Screen
or do i burn my pocket on a Note Pro 12
and hows the Bluetooth is it any good. (moga drops a lot on stock Note 3 but runs perfect on wicked rom)
i had a first gen lenovo yoga 13 and it never left my hands. so for size anything under 13 I'm fine with
i think for a laptop replacement 8" is to small
I'm open to here your recommendation
i will not buy apple anything..mostly because i have almost 1000$ in apps on Google play
right now what I'm looking at
Note 10.1 (2014)
Note Pro 12.2
ASUS 10.1 prime + dock (i had a TF201 and TF101 loved them both but miss first gen dock)
and what ever you guys think
to top this all off i need it for class in 17 days
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...my note 3...
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It's a giant N3 with a LCD vs. AMOLED display. For that matter, so is the N12. If you like the N3, as tablets go, you'd like the big ones also.
I can't make up my mind do i get this and Hope Samsung fixes the Touch Screen
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LOL. The same poster of the "multitouch expose" in this forum has a similar thread going in the N3 forum. I never took the time to figure out whether my N3 and N10.1-14 were affected and haven't had an issue with either. I don't count something as a problem unless it affects what I do every day. If I have to download apps and go through multiple non-typical gyrations to prove something's wrong it's probably not relevant in the first place.
Hows the Bluetooth is it any good. (moga drops a lot on stock Note 3 but runs perfect on wicked rom)
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Some early N10.1-14's had a h/w issue where HID devices couldn't hold connections. It's quieted down so perhaps whatever the issue was has been corrected in production. I use BT constantly and have never had an issue; in fact it's better than any device I've previously used. But I have a Gear connected to my N3 along with my car multiple hours a day and never had an issue with it either.
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It's a giant N3 with a LCD vs. AMOLED display. For that matter, so is the N12. If you like the N3, as tablets go, you'd like the big ones also.
LOL. The same poster of the "multitouch expose" in this forum has a similar thread going in the N3 forum. I never took the time to figure out whether my N3 and N10.1-14 were affected and haven't had an issue with either. I don't count something as a problem unless it affects what I do every day. If I have to download apps and go through multiple non-typical gyrations to prove something's wrong it's probably not relevant in the first place.
Some early N10.1-14's had a h/w issue where HID devices couldn't hold connections. It's quieted down so perhaps whatever the issue was has been corrected in production. I use BT constantly and have never had an issue; in fact it's better than any device I've previously used. But I have a Gear connected to my N3 along with my car multiple hours a day and never had an issue with it either.
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i agree 95% with what your saying just as a heads up i plain to buy whatever i buy from amazon (500$ gift card from B-day)
i had a feeling the very early BT issue was fixedo. but a lot of games i play use 2 or 3 touches at a time can you say for sure that your not having problems with multi touch? I plain to use Spen a lot With CAD software witch means having my palm or so resting on the screen. ghost touching is my fear with Swipe on the keyboard as well it's about 95% how i type and 50% the reason i got a note 3 and not a nexus 5 (other 50% was the Spen).
i know i sound a little unsure but only because i want it to last the next 2 years with school i will not have the cash to go a new route later with school 6 days a week working just don't work.
and yes love my N3 but my first one died in flames while on it's own charger the 2nd day i had it 2nd one has been good for about 2 months now..
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But a lot of games i play use 2 or 3 touches at a time can you say for sure that your not having problems with multi touch? I plain to use Spen a lot With CAD software witch means having my palm or so resting on the screen. ghost touching is my fear with Swipe on the keyboard as well it's about 95% how i type and 50% the reason i got a note 3 and not a nexus 5 (other 50% was the Spen).
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I'm not a big gamer on my tablet so I can't really comment. I do use S Pen a lot and have my palm all over the display and have never had an issue. I also use swipe a lot on Samsung's stock mini-keyboard and have never had an issue there either. Do you live near a Costco? You can buy a N10.1-14 there, play with it for a week, and then return it and use your Amazon gift card to buy one from them if it meets your needs.
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I'm not a big gamer on my tablet so I can't really comment. I do use S Pen a lot and have my palm all over the display and have never had an issue. I also use swipe a lot on Samsung's stock mini-keyboard and have never had an issue there either. Do you live near a Costco? You can buy a N10.1-14 there, play with it for a week, and then return it and use your Amazon gift card to buy one from them if it meets your needs.
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closest one is 56miles and not listed in stock:crying: expecting 4~6ft of snow in next 48 hours
I had the tf201 transformer prime before as well. Reason I went for the note, I rarely used the keyboard but I was always wishing I could annotate pdfs and take notes more easily.
And you can always buy a BT keyboard for your note if you need to write longer text.
What's your experience so far with the Pixel XL?
I'm considering the Pixel XL but looks like there're a lot to lose in term of features (QI chargin, edge, compact body, SPay,...). I flashed mine S7e with the Unlocked U firmware so the bloatware is minimal and I'm getting >7hrs SOT. Is it worth it to switch?
Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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The carrier's junks are bad. Since switched to the unlock firmware, my S7e feels like a different phone. No lag, run cooler, better battery life...
I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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Not to mention it's possible at the moment to unlock, root, and do what you want with it. Really liking the photo sync at full resolution.
I've come from the s7e and I prefer this phone. I go through phones multiple times a year and this thing is a beast. Battery life is a lot better than my s7e and I much prefer the plain Android experience. Will hold onto this unless the mate 9 turns out to be epic.
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I upgraded from S7Edge. Its been a week now and i am loving pixel XL. Edge on S7Edge wasn't very useful to me...
just pulled the trigger today and ordered the xl, had the note 7, traded it in and was using my s6 for the time being. My s6 has turned into a giant pile, so i can not wait for december 9th when my xl ships. glad to hear some of the positive reviews
Upgraded to a Note 7 from a S7 Edge and to the Pixel XL from a Note 7... Enjoying the phone so far
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Came from a Note 7. There are definitely things I like about the pixel, but I certainly miss the Note. The s-pen, screen write, AoD, gif maker.. it just sucks to lose all that.
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
been a samsung fan from the s1, had every phone, will no longer buy samsung due to locked bootloaders and bloated system even without carrier bloat. every single samsung lags, newer ones not as bad but still lag including the note 7 (bomb edition). the pixel just flies through every task, and being that your on xda, i would assume you like to mod your device, well in that category there is absolutely no comparason
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The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Thats exactly what ive been using , i have an app that sets it to auto just a bit flacky for me it likes to kick off to quickly. When i keep it on i will agree it matches close to the note 7, but i liked the stock adaptive brightness that got into to the high brightness smoothly .... just a little picky i know
No going back to samsung now. I love their camera, i love their crazy fast autofocus but damn the software on the XL, just spoils you. This is truly lag free and an amazingly refreshing experience. It's no nonsense, cuts to the job of getting things done and has really good battery life.
I Had s7e, and the pixel flies in comparison, or at least it feels that way. Camera on s7e seemed to load just a tad quicker, but otherwise the pixel is much better
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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What did Samsung disable? On my Note 7 and S7e I used Google Now fine and assistant in allo worked fine. They crippled the listening from always on when the screen is off to only allow when plugged in. I doubt it's pushing s voice though. I've never even opened the s voice app since the Note 4. Only reason I don't disable it is because it's tied to the voice to text framework
Correction, only reason I DIDN'T disable it, past tense
So I just picked up 2 Note10+5Gs from T-Mobile which are on Android 10.
Coming from a OnePlus6T running A10 I had A10 gesture on any Launcher, but on the Note I loose gestures as soon as I switch launchers and set it to default, it will keep gestures as long as is not set to default. The moment I use recents the phone switch back to TouchWiz or whatever is called now.
So here comes the Q.
Is there any way to keep native gestures on a non-stock Launcher? I'm not afraid of adb but not an expert in any way.
To the People who might ask "why did you get a Samsung if you don't like the skin?" Or "if you wanted a pixel why didn't you get one?" I have to say that the hardware is always awesome and cutting edge, their skin is Meh at best. Icons are super girly in my opinion and the themes suck, again, in my opinion.
Any help will be appreciated.
I'm using Nova launcher on my Note 10+ and didn't lose any of the gestures. Not sure what you're observing. Also, if you want to have the same behaviour as Android 10, download "One Hand Operation +" from the Galaxy App Store (part of the Good Lock power tools for Galaxy devices). You can then configure edge swipes to do what you want. I have it configured as back, recent apps and previous app switching depending on the length and direction of swipe. In fact, it's more powerful than Android native gestures so it's best of both worlds.
So, to kinda add to what has been posted here, there's a way to make any Launcher work with Native Samsung Gestures in A10 but involves adb.
This works:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-...ova-launcher-and-other-third-party-launchers/
Edit: only works until a reboot
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I'm using Nova launcher on my Note 10+ and didn't lose any of the gestures. Not sure what you're observing. Also, if you want to have the same behaviour as Android 10, download "One Hand Operation +" from the Galaxy App Store (part of the Good Lock power tools for Galaxy devices). You can then configure edge swipes to do what you want. I have it configured as back, recent apps and previous app switching depending on the length and direction of swipe. In fact, it's more powerful than Android native gestures so it's best of both worlds.
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This is what I mean:
So first on the top left to the last one.
1. Have One UI selected as default
2, 3, 4. Switch to A10/Samsung Screen Gestures
5. Select my new Launcher.
6. Get a message that nav was changed.
7. Then the option to get gestures is not available, more like a gesture-like nav bar.
I've read some more and apparently it's not even possible but I had up until this morning A10 on my OnePlus6T running a Pixel Launcher (modded) with A10 gestures which were exactly the same as the Samsung Gestures. So, I've had this phone for 3 days and already had several BT disconnections while standing literally 2 feet (61 cm) away from the other device and now this Launcher crap. I absolutely hate Bixby and the fact that you can't disable any Samsung apps.
Very interesting. Is this an official release of Android 10 because I don't think Android 10 is out for the Note 10+ devices. If you're running a beta you really ought to go back to official. Feels silly to say this but you can't harp on a device if you're running unreleased software.
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Very interesting. Is this an official release of Android 10 because I don't think Android 10 is out for the Note 10+ devices. If you're running a beta you really ought to go back to official. Feels silly to say this but you can't harp on a device if you're running unreleased software.
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No man, T-Mobile Note10+5G shipped with Official A10.
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Well would you look at that https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...-5g-t-mobile-will-ship-android-10-out-box?amp
I would not dismiss my point though still. With no official One UI 2.0 for any other Note 10 series devices, you may be dealing with some early adopter woes. Android Pie certainly does not have any limitations on the Note 10+, as I have already pointed out. I would be patient and wait until Android 10 rolls out to other Note 10 series devices before judging things. As it stands right now unfortunately, few folks will be able to help you. Basically nobody has Android 10 on their Note 10 series devices.
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So I just picked up 2 Note10+5Gs from T-Mobile which are on Android 10.
Coming from a OnePlus6T running A10 I had A10 gesture on any Launcher, but on the Note I loose gestures as soon as I switch launchers and set it to default, it will keep gestures as long as is not set to default. The moment I use recents the phone switch back to TouchWiz or whatever is called now.
So here comes the Q.
Is there any way to keep native gestures on a non-stock Launcher? I'm not afraid of adb but not an expert in any way.
To the People who might ask "why did you get a Samsung if you don't like the skin?" Or "if you wanted a pixel why didn't you get one?" I have to say that the hardware is always awesome and cutting edge, their skin is Meh at best. Icons are super girly in my opinion and the themes suck, again, in my opinion.
Any help will be appreciated.
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One of the things I've found within the first couple days of using this phone is that gestures are locked to Samsung's launcher, particularly the recent apps gesture. I do not want to use the Samsung launcher but is forced to because it has to keep running in the background in order to have this gesture (is a waste of resources to have 2 launchers running at the same time).
I read somewhere that Google will take this away from them in the next OS update.
About bixby, you will have to use an app blocker if you don't use it or don't want I running in the background. I use package disabler pro (bought from their website not from the app store), you can also use ccswe. But package disabler pro can disable all and every app, ccswe cannot do this in order for them to stay in the play store.
I've been a devoted Note user since the Note 2, upgrade pretty much day 1 on every release but I've found. I've noticed that Samsung has been slowly taking away some feature while locking others. They've lied about screen size/real-estate, battery, removing and locking the ability to track battery usage. I honestly feeling this will be my last Note device until Samsung start doing the right things again.
It's funny to see how different folks react to things in a different way. In my opinion, the Note 10+ is not only the best Note device Samsung produced to date, but the best device Samsung produced to date, period. I have had prior Note devices as well, either because I've owned them or had an opportunity to use them and the Note 10+ to me feels and functions as well as the Note 7 did for its time. We all know what happened to the 7 unfortunately and what followed the next two years was absolute crap. Samsung was conservative because they were scared. Note 10+ returned to what made the Note series great - huge screen, big battery life, beefy specs. I have the S10+ and the Note 10+ is a far better, and significantly better performing device. This despite the fact that they are built on the same basic platform. I am yet to find a flaw on it, but I see plenty on the S10+. Not sure if something is different about the 5G device or whether the software is just really that immature to lead to the dissatisfaction you are describing.
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It's funny to see how different folks react to things in a different way. In my opinion, the Note 10+ is not only the best Note device Samsung produced to date, but the best device Samsung produced to date, period. I have had prior Note devices as well, either because I've owned them or had an opportunity to use them and the Note 10+ to me feels and functions as well as the Note 7 did for its time. We all know what happened to the 7 unfortunately and what followed the next two years was absolute crap. Samsung was conservative because they were scared. Note 10+ returned to what made the Note series great - huge screen, big battery life, beefy specs. I have the S10+ and the Note 10+ is a far better, and significantly better performing device. This despite the fact that they are built on the same basic platform. I am yet to find a flaw on it, but I see plenty on the S10+. Not sure if something is different about the 5G device or whether the software is just really that immature to lead to the dissatisfaction you are describing.
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Me exact thoughts! I've had almost every note made as well as the S10 e, S10 plus. The note 10 plus I have is way better than the S10 plus period.
I guess there's no discussion about how good Note10+ is over every other Note before it, is good to clear that out.
Now, here's the deal, I'm not a fan of any brand of any product, I'm almost picky about the food I buy and clothing, sure. I had a Galaxy S2, then S5. And then a Nexus 6, the best phone by far including every other phone after it, which I used for 2 years. Then a LG G6. Then an S9 (which I kinda loved/hated the same way I do this one) that I gave to my daughter and got me a OnePlus6T, the closest to rank next to Shamu.
So as you can read it's not like I hate the brand or anything like that, I hate how Samsung adds so much makeup to Android that it doesn't feel like Android. The Screen Gestures, as I mentioned before, is a Android 10 problem that I didn't seem to have on my 6T, but all that Bixby crap and the way the icons look and how their themes suck so bad, it's like a bunch of Korean 12 year olds put them together. It's just the way Samsung makes what should be a great experience as I had with the 6T on A10 feel like bloated and opaque.
My wife and daughter loves it thought so I guess I got that going for me. I'm getting money back for both my S9s which I'll use to pay for the phone and sell it as fast as I can.
For example, My Nexus 6 had most of the amenities or features that this phone has, obviously the camera technology and fingerprint scanning had advanced greatly, and no stylus but wireless charging, face unlock, you name it, it had it plus Google security patches monthly for 3 years and a still ongoing Dev community... I mean, it even use the same microsim.
So you see, it might be faster and everything but the Samsung skin is pretty awful in my opinion and I had just forgotten how much I hated the Bixby crap, I was very happy with the lack of a dedicated Bixby button thinking stuff might be better but is worst.
I hear you for sure. Unfortunately I also don't have much to add to the discussion. I currently don't have Android 10 and won't get access to it for another month or so probably. I expect a January release for Android 10 for the Note 10+ broadly. Maybe when one of the fellow members rocking the 5G version get theirs they might be able to help more. Sorry I couldn't help beyond providing some info earlier in the thread.
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I hear you for sure. Unfortunately I also don't have much to add to the discussion. I currently don't have Android 10 and won't get access to it for another month or so probably. I expect a January release for Android 10 for the Note 10+ broadly. Maybe when one of the fellow members rocking the 5G version get theirs they might be able to help more. Sorry I couldn't help beyond providing some info earlier in the thread.
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It's all good. No need to say that, you did offer an option which I appreciate.
Look in your accessibility settings. There is something enabled that is causing your issue.
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Look in your accessibility settings. There is something enabled that is causing your issue.
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Nah, there's nothing active there bc I don't use none of that plus is also not something brought in from migrating to this phone since I started fresh on this phone.
As I wrote before, I read it is tied to A10 not allowing gestures on 3rd party launchers but it worked fine on my OnePlus6T.
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It's funny to see how different folks react to things in a different way. In my opinion, the Note 10+ is not only the best Note device Samsung produced to date, but the best device Samsung produced to date, period. I have had prior Note devices as well, either because I've owned them or had an opportunity to use them and the Note 10+ to me feels and functions as well as the Note 7 did for its time. We all know what happened to the 7 unfortunately and what followed the next two years was absolute crap. Samsung was conservative because they were scared. Note 10+ returned to what made the Note series great - huge screen, big battery life, beefy specs. I have the S10+ and the Note 10+ is a far better, and significantly better performing device. This despite the fact that they are built on the same basic platform. I am yet to find a flaw on it, but I see plenty on the S10+. Not sure if something is different about the 5G device or whether the software is just really that immature to lead to the dissatisfaction you are describing.
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That's great @dhorgas, not trying to knock what you've said or how you feel about your device in any way but I guess it's a subjective thing. I know what I paid for, I know what they told me about the device and I know what I got. You are clearly contented with what you got and that's OK.
The build quality on the N10 is exceptional, I don't think anyone can say otherwise but saying the N10 is significantly better performing than the S10 is nothing more than your bias showing in the face of all the comparison speed tests widely available. Significant? No. Exaggeration? Very much so. By the way just letting you know colors are better on the S10 screen than the Note 10 but that's neither here nor there. Performance is not a Samsung thing, it's Qualcomm. You shouldn't be giving Samsung credit for things they didn't do.
My few gripes with the phone might not be significant to you in any way. By themselves they're pretty small but together they're hard to overlook in in my day to day usage.
1) Screen size, they lied but didn't lie. Screen is correct 6.8" but actual screen real-estate is 6.5", almost the same as on my N9 which is 6.4" in immersive mode. There is no immersive mode on the N10. They artificially blocked it by having a semi-static banner there. Not a hardware problem, just a conscious decision made by Samsung as if they know how best I should use my phone. I was duped into thinking I would have a bigger screen to use.
2) The screen color are horrible, their choice of pixel color was a bad choice in my book. Now the screen has an even more reddish tint than even the N9.
3a) Battery size. They plain lied about this one. Some people might be fine with this, others might think they know all about how batteries work and will proceed to defend the company's actions.
I remember when they use to show mAh usage for all apps, they removed that. Now they have battery size mAh disclaimers? I'm getting the feeling it was a conscious decision to F us on the battery.
3b) battery tracking is petty much locked. when they removed mAh view they locked full tracking, why? Because they were getting ready to F us on the battery, that's why.
4) Gesture lock. What they did is lock the recent app gesture into their crappy launcher. You'd have to have it constantly running with full access to the device in the background in order to have full gesture while using a different launcher. Just like they use to lock gallery with a different app so if you should disable it then gallery wouldn't work.
With Android 10 we should at least have control of gestures which is a good thing for consumers like myself. But the road I see Samsung going down is a road I don't feel I should be investing my money, not like my money will be of any significance to them in any way shape or form but at least I want to feel comfortable when spending my money.
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4) Gesture lock. What they did is lock the recent app gesture into their crappy launcher. You'd have to have it constantly running with full access to the device in the background in order to have full gesture while using a different launcher. Just like they use to lock gallery with a different app so if you should disable it then gallery wouldn't work.
With Android 10 we should at least have control of gestures which is a good thing for consumers like myself. But the road I see Samsung going down is a road I don't feel I should be investing my money, not like my money will be of any significance to them in any way shape or form but at least I want to feel comfortable when spending my money.
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The gesture issue isn't a Samsung move. The same issue exists in other Android 10 devices in regards to third party launchers.
https://ww.9to5google.com/2019/11/12/android-10-gestures-launchers/
The problem is with Google's code, not to say Samsung couldn't fix it and flow the changes back into the base but that could take longer to get approved than to just let Google fix it and flow it up.
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The gesture issue isn't a Samsung move. The same issue exists in other Android 10 devices in regards to third party launchers.
https://ww.9to5google.com/2019/11/12/android-10-gestures-launchers/
The problem is with Google's code, not to say Samsung couldn't fix it and flow the changes back into the base but that could take longer to get approved than to just let Google fix it and flow it up.
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No, no that's a separate issue. What I'm talking about is on Android 9 running on Note 10, not Android 10 beta. If you fully disable Samsung's One UI launcher then you will lose the recent app gesture. No error no warning. If I should use a different launcher then I would have to keep the Samsung launcher also running using up resources even though I'm not using it.
I usually go full immersive, no status bar, until I need it, no navigation bar. Full gesture. And now Samsung is artificially preventing people who wants to use their phones that from doing so.
My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
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Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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and that search bar so annoying
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and that search bar so annoying
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Yep and no option to change or move it
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Yep and no option to change or move it
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
Shipoftheline said:
Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.
It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.
Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.
I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.
The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
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It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.
I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.
MArtyChubbs said:
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )
can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet
I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro
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I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.
I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
love the device so much i took a big financial hit to get rid of my Z fold 3 for one - samsung wont be seeing me for a long time
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I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
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Same. The Pixel 3xl was the best phone ever, and the fingerprint sensor was the best thing about it! They should go back to that model, using through the screen is clunky and causes fingerprints.
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Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
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I use Android Auto every day and I haven't had a problem. Every few years I sometimes run into consistent problems with Android Auto and replacing the cable I'm using (with another high-quality USB 3.x cable) always fixes the issue.
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Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
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I avoided gestures until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I finally resigned myself and mostly haven't minded it. If you want to continue avoiding using the navbar but want a workaround for swiping up from the bottom, Nova Launcher might give you close to what you want.
If you want to use the navigation bar then Nova Launcher should be able to be configured to completely do what you want with the swipe up from the bottom gesture.
It's fair if you don't want to use a custom launcher, though. I've sworn by Nova for the last 10+ years IIRC. Every time I give something else a try, I go back, and I don't bother trying anything else anymore.
Having used Samsung and OnePlus devices, I love the swipe up to go back feature. It results in far fewer accidental back presses than the default Google ones. For me, it was worth rooting and installing Fluid Navigation Gestures to get that feature on the Pixel 6 Pro.
Yeah, despite it's flaws, the p6pro is a great phone imo.
I got the 256gb model and bought a 30w pixel charger for it. Rooted it the 1st day I got it.
But the Bluetooth cuts out upon connection with my Sony bt headphones.
I'm on a13 DP2 and it's brilliant. Can't use viper tho
I love my p6pro too.
The only real complaint I have is battery life and photo quality. My pixel 2XL had better quality photos that weren't overly processed and were sharper.
Battery life is meh; I feel it drains too quickly and gets overly hot from just web browsing and texting.
I'd like to see more customization within the OS, since Samsung has an array of customization options Google refuses to provide. I don't mind using custom roms for that purpose, but they can be buggy and often break features from stock.
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I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still using my OnePlus 7 Pro. Yesterday, I used it for a Zoom meeting and the selfie camera is way better than the crappy one on my computer.
The Pixel 6 looks great. I'd get the Samsung 22,because I've hade Notes in the past, but their privacy policies are really creepy.