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Can anyone with the lte version that uses the snapdragon 800 confirm that its lag free compared to the exynos wifi version only. I was looking for a comparison and i cant seem to find any answer. Thanks.
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Can anyone with the lte version that uses the snapdragon 800 confirm that its lag free compared to the exynos wifi version only. I was looking for a comparison and i cant seem to find any answer. Thanks.
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İ also wonder this question so much
I haven't tried the exynos version but only the snapdragon and I can confirm also that version has some lags but I think they are acceptable.
I hope with some official update it will be better.
Or maybe with a no-bloatware rom.
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Hi.
You should search around the forum for snapdragon vs exynos threads, tons of them. this question has been asked a few times (or at least similar versions of the question)
Long story short, not much difference in the lag between the two models. ( I've actually tried both had LTW version for about a month ++, currently running the wifi only version,due to it being the only one I could get with 32 Gb , + the price and I didn't really need LTE)
If you mean the lockscreen lag its there. 2-3 seconds delay. No fix yet.
About the homescreen lag is there but if you use nova launcher you will get rid of it.
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I have the SD800 version on MJ9 firmware. Homescreen lag was still present with the Touchwiz launcher. Nova Launcher is butter smooth.
The wake-up delay for the lockscreen is sporadic. Sometimes it starts up instantly, other times it takes a second or two.
i have the LTE with Snapdragon and it's very good but the most lags are the result from Android 4.3 it sucks!! I had the same problems on the S3 i9300 now i am on this device on Android 4.4 first with CM11 and now with Omnirom and i can tell you no lags anymore. 4.4 is faster with no stuck and lags.Can't wait to see the performance from 4.4 on the Note 10.1 2014 the lags will be past
Hi all,
Purchased an Xtrons MTCD System back in September,
Android 5.1.1
1024x600
16gb ROM
1gb RAM
PX3 RK3188 4x1.6ghz
Mali 400mp
Looking at purchasing a newer version now offered
Android 6.0.1
1024x600
32gb ROM
2gb RAM
PX5 RK3368 8x1.5ghz.
PowerVR G6110
I currently have a lot of stutter when switching apps or opening iGO navigation while Spotify is open.
Also the cold boot time annoys me.
I can purchase the new version & sell mine off for minimum loss.
Is the RK3368 OctaCore & 2gb RAM a definite upgrade?
I need advice as I'll be purchasing it at the end of this week, which means I need to advertise my current one ASAP.
Cheers
Mat
From what I've read it's the best upgrade available right now. 2gb ram is probably the biggest thing, and according to the benchmarks, the PX5 is the fastest CPU available right now in these types of units. Some people like the Intel CPU, and claim that despite having lower benchmarks it may be as fast as the PX5 - but I'm pretty skeptical. Just the upgrade to 2gb Ram will make a slower CPU seem faster. Without a side by side it's impossible to know. Either way, I will be upgrading my quad core 3188 to a PX5 as soon as I am able and one becomes available for my car.
Techrev said:
From what I've read it's the best upgrade available right now. 2gb ram is probably the biggest thing, and according to the benchmarks, the PX5 is the fastest CPU available right now in these types of units. Some people like the Intel CPU, and claim that despite having lower benchmarks it may be as fast as the PX5 - but I'm pretty skeptical. Just the upgrade to 2gb Ram will make a slower CPU seem faster. Without a side by side it's impossible to know. Either way, I will be upgrading my quad core 3188 to a PX5 as soon as I am able and one becomes available for my car.
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Thanks for the fast reply. If I get a couple more positive comments from others I'll be ordering my new one Thursday, DHL Shipping. I can post a comparison of the 2 units side by side by next weekend if everything works out well from boot times to launching the same apps etc.
Cheers
Mat
Edit: I purchased the new unit. Have organised sale of my current unit. Will hopefully get a quick comparison video next week between the two opening specific apps and comparing run times etc.
Can you post a link with the px5 unit?
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ikerg said:
Can you post a link with the px5 unit?
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It is a vehicle specific unit to suit E39 BMW.
http://xtrons.com/pb7639bap-7-hd-di...vd-player-custom-fit-for-bmw-5-series-x5.html
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It is a vehicle specific unit to suit E39 BMW.
http://xtrons.com/pb7639bap-7-hd-di...vd-player-custom-fit-for-bmw-5-series-x5.html
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Hello,
So you bought it ?
May I have your opinion about it ?
What was your installation before ? I currently have an OEM 16/9 Nav System.
my biggest concern is the settings like Clock/Fuel consumtion etc... Everything is set from the nav unit, how will it work with the Android system ?
Thank you
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It is a vehicle specific unit to suit E39 BMW.
http://xtrons.com/pb7639bap-7-hd-di...vd-player-custom-fit-for-bmw-5-series-x5.html
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Also interested, I'm about to order a Xtrons PB86MTVAP (specific for VAG-group, 2gb RAM, PX5, 8").
corpcd said:
Also interested, I'm about to order a Xtrons PB86MTVAP (specific for VAG-group, 2gb RAM, PX5, 8").
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Go for it mate, nice look alike one too, btw.. is it gonna take place of the oem rns 510 radio one.. right?
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Hello. Where can i buy android board on mtcd? Can anybody help me?
witson responds me by email this
"hello
android 6.0 board+post shiping cost is USD105
Bob/WITSON"
Greetings.
Will these boards work in an mtcc unit or just for px3 mtcd?
pcmender2005 said:
Will these boards work in an mtcc unit or just for px3 mtcd?
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Even working...only are supported mtcd
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Because I got my hands on a px5 board I wanne sell my Daisita (hotaudio) px3 board wich is upgraded to 2GB ram out of the previous groupbuy.
pm if interested
Hi. I have a erisin es4700f mtcd 3188 1gb, but i don't know if It is px3, how Can i undestand?
The kit is only for upgrading from px3?
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Double check before you order witson px5 coreboard
witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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Swap back your px3
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xda-learner said:
witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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Have you considered the px5 som you received is defective or doa? How have you validated the son as defective other than testing on your mtcd? From cross compatible thread findings its seems unlikely KBT departs from MTCD as to not boot.
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witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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Hello, did you manage to get it working or tried to re-install the original board? I also have a KBT unit (Eonon) and have already ordered a PX5 board.
Update: After installing the PX5 board, everything worked fine. The unit booted immediately and everything is working much better now. However I am facing an issue, that after wake up, the panel buttons and touch screen are not working. It somehow works after a period or multiple ignition on-off cycles.
Thanks,
Alex.
abagos said:
Hello, did you manage to get it working or tried to re-install the original board? I also have a KBT unit (Eonon) and have already ordered a PX5 board.
Update: After installing the PX5 board, everything worked fine. The unit booted immediately and everything is working much better now. However I am facing an issue, that after wake up, the panel buttons and touch screen are not working. It somehow works after a period or multiple ignition on-off cycles.
Thanks,
Alex.
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I've a Eonon GA8172 with a PX3 board, and i want to update to a PX5, did you had to make some software update before/after the board change?
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I've a Eonon GA8172 with a PX3 board, and i want to update to a PX5, did you had to make some software update before/after the board change?
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Hello, since you will be replacing the board, there's no reason to upgrade before because the firmware runs on the board itself. Depending on what version your new board will be running on, you may choose to update after you install it.
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Hey there.
Today I just wanted to buy an Ownice HU.
But then I found this XTRONS running Android 8.0 with a octa core and 4GB RAM.
Do you guys think it is worth a try or should i rather buy the Ownice?
Thanks for every answer
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Hey there.
Today I just wanted to buy an Ownice HU.
But then I found this XTRONS running Android 8.0 with a octa core and 4GB RAM.
Do you guys think it is worth a try or should i rather buy the Ownice?
Thanks for every answer
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I can't say anything about Ownice but the Xtrons is definitely worth its money. I have had two Erisin's and a Pumpkin but the Xtrons is my first HU which is working without any issues.
The only thing with Android 8 is that it came out a few weeks ago so it could be still a little bit buggy.
Hello
Yes, on paper it seems perfect, I just have a doubt about the quality of the product, knowing that the audience shines by its absence.
I hope that the conflicts Wifi / Bluetooth are not identical to TB706APL, without reliable internet connection, this new product is useless.
I'm curious about the xtrons also. I was going to buy a joying but saw the xtrons has 4gb of ram. I have both a 2gb and 4gb tablet with similar cpu's, and the 4gb tablet is far faster and more stable than the other one.
I installed the 10.1 version in my truck on Saturday. The model TE103P. So far I am very happy with it. I just need to figure how to get my Bluetooth ODBII adapter working.
The performance so far is impressive. It turns on extremely fast and I like the UI for now. Compared to the Joying I had before, the performance seems better.
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I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
Do you have any info, about what kind of amplifier Xtrons uses?
Written info is allover the place. Dasaita updated their hardware from TDA7851L to TDA7850, which is supposed to be better, but in their presentation graphics is still written TDA7851L. Since hardware between head units is practically the same, I assume XTRONS might use newer amplifier chip as well...Does anyone have a clue?
Which chipset us it actually? Looks nice, I'm thinking about replacement of a joying with 1 gb and kit Kat which has a really slow startup.
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messiah said:
Which chipset us it actually? Looks nice, I'm thinking about replacement of a joying with 1 gb and kit Kat which has a really slow startup.
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It's using the Rockchip octacore PX5 A 53 architecture 64 bit cpu and 4 gb DDR3 kingston memory.
It is also far way better than the Alwinne T8 which uses a A 7 architecture.
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I installed the 10.1 version in my truck on Saturday. The model TE103P. So far I am very happy with it. I just need to figure how to get my Bluetooth ODBII adapter working.
The performance so far is impressive. It turns on extremely fast and I like the UI for now. Compared to the Joying I had before, the performance seems better.
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Would you be so kind to share the make and model of your truck, I'm considering putting one of these in my Ford Excursion. I'm concerned about being able to adjust the display vertically.
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Would you be so kind to share the make and model of your truck, I'm considering putting one of these in my Ford Excursion. I'm concerned about being able to adjust the display vertically.
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It's a 2017 Ford F150. I will try to get some pics tomorrow.
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tabocaw said:
I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
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hello, I want to ask.. how good sound this new device?
because, I have read that sound sucks by older devices (joying, dasaita...)
Ive just got mine xtrons te706pl installed 3 days ago and it's doing great. The only problem I've had is getting logged out of spotify overnight. The install was a pain but I have a factory infinity system with amp. Overall I'm happy with the unit. It's pretty snappy and quick.
Hows the sound quality, any hissing sounds?
Sounds great but I already have a factory amp. But I think it sounds better than the factory stereo. I can't figure out how to root it though. Kingoroot doesn't work then I realized it's android 8.0 and might not be root able by it yet.
I was looking at this unit as well, does it have pre outs for front, rear, and sub? My current unit has a huge drop off in sound quality from youtube to pandora. I've asked about it and not found out if this is a common issue or not in the android units, but that is something that is a big turn off for me. I'm hoping the newer units have this fixed. also any quirks or anything else you've noticed about the unit? so far this one is on the top of my list of what i'll be purchasing next.
Hello
With a few days of use, what is your feedback experience.
Do you test the reliability of 3G or 4G internet connection, are there any cuts like on old units built with the PX5 card?
Is there still the bug that cuts the internet connection at each call reception due to a conflict between bluetooth and wifi?
Is there still an abominable echo during a phone conversation with the correspondent with bluetooth?
I read that it is possible to have two open applications with screen sharing, Waze example displayed on a half screen is it legible, street names ect ..
Thank you for your answers and sorry for the syntax because I use Google translation
cordially
I use my phone as a hotspot for my internet do I can't comment on 3g/4g. I did notice a horrible sound while im talking to someone though. It was a loud screeching noise throughout the call. I had no problem with either wifi or Bluetooth cutting out. I haven't tried to use split screen yet but I will and get back to you. Overall I'm very happy with my purchase. It works very well.
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Do you have any info, about what kind of amplifier Xtrons uses?
Written info is allover the place. Dasaita updated their hardware from TDA7851L to TDA7850, which is supposed to be better, but in their presentation graphics is still written TDA7851L. Since hardware between head units is practically the same, I assume XTRONS might use newer amplifier chip as well...Does anyone have a clue?
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TDA7851. 4x48W I believe. Better than Joying
snaggle2thtiger said:
I was looking at this unit as well, does it have pre outs for front, rear, and sub? My current unit has a huge drop off in sound quality from youtube to pandora. I've asked about it and not found out if this is a common issue or not in the android units, but that is something that is a big turn off for me. I'm hoping the newer units have this fixed. also any quirks or anything else you've noticed about the unit? so far this one is on the top of my list of what i'll be purchasing next.
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The sound quality is so much better than the stock unit. The EQ does an amazing job of bringing out the sound. I haven't notice any difference in YouTube or spotify. I don't use pandora. One quirk is I had a horrible squeaking noise when I had a phone call. I haven't looked into that yet. The other is I can't figure out where the developer options are. I've went to about in settings and hit the model 7 times. The unit says options activated but still can't find it. I wanted to root the device but haven't been able to.
Hi everyone,
In 2017 I bought a Witson Android 6 quad-core PX3 unit from an European reseller. I was quite happy with the unit but after about one year it suddenly stopped at bootlogo. After several months of receiving nonworking advices on how to install new firmware I requested to get a new unit under warranty. Thereafter the whole discussion started to get ugly so I had to contact Witson directly in order to get the thing settled. Witson was kind enough to send a new unit.
The new unit is an Android 8 octa-core PX5 unit so I assumed it would have better performance than the old unit. After using it now for several months now I must say that it is worse than the old one,
- when installing additional software I could not get a stable connection to my wifi router 5m away, the wifi range is so poor that the only way to use it was to have my mobile phone as a hot-spot on the dashboard
- the radio reception is poor, only very strong stations work, all others suffer from frequent drop-outs
- the GPS is loosing the connection all the time and the navigation often goes completely nuts
The unit display info is,
Model px5(1024x600)
Android Version 8.0.0
Kernel version 4.4.93+ [email protected] #46
Build number px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.hct.20190219.093540 test-keys
MCU version MTCE_MX2_V3.13_1
CPU 8 core 64-bit CPU Cortex-A53 @ 1.5G
Memory 3891 MB
And here is finally my question - from your experience/knowledge - are all the problems hardware related or can any of them be corrected by upgrading the firmware/software?
I have now got so frustrated and used so much time with these cheap Chinese Head Units that if no-one comes up with any positive information about what could be done I will rip the unit out of the dashboard and replace it wit a branded Alpine/Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood unit.
Thank you in advance for any comments.
Go for the branded head unit.
Weak wifi is not uncommon. Read the forum. Did you try an external antenna?
Bad radio reception. Does your car have a powered antenna and if so, did you apply power?
You may want to try 3rd party fimware, e.g. Malaysk. They tend to be more stable.
I have had a GS unit, sold by XTrons, for more than2 years without.significant prpblems. Using Malayak firmware.
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Weak wifi is not uncommon. Read the forum. Did you try an external antenna?
Bad radio reception. Does your car have a powered antenna and if so, did you apply power?
You may want to try 3rd party fimware, e.g. Malaysk. They tend to be more stable.
I have had a GS unit, sold by XTrons, for more than2 years without.significant prpblems. Using Malayak firmware.
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Thank you for your reply.
No I do not have an external antenna because there is no connector for it so I would have to open the unit and assemble one. I did not want to do that when I received the replacement unit in case the unit would have been faulty at arrival. Now I suppose I have to look for info about the issue.
Yes the antenna is powered and the power is connected. I missed the antenna power connection when I installed the first unit and had to remove it and connect the antenna power so I know for sure that it is connected now.
Does the Malaysk or Hal9k firmwares have modifications that make the units work technically better or are the modifications only in the user interface? Anyone have information on this?
Hi,
I am using a PX5 head unit:
Android 9
Model: RK3368
Build Number: rk3368 userdebug 9 PQ2A.190305.002 eng.hct.20190509.101541 test keys
Kernerl version: 4.4.167
MCU Version: MTCE_KSP_V3.07_1
CPU: Octa Core cortex [email protected]
Memory 3940 MB
I'd like to pair a Garmin GPS sensor via Bluetooth. The sensor's firmware is at the latest release.
The Head unit is paired with my Note 10+. I can pair the sensor with Samsung Note or Ipad, but I can't do that with the PX5
there is no message, it just doesn't connect. Is there anyway to diagnose what's happening, or things I could try to make that work?
Thanks a lot
Chris
Hi Chris
Bluetooth seems to be very limited when it comes to Android head units. You will see around the forums of people complaining about it. I have 5 OBD II dongles and out of the 5 only 2 work via Bluetooth on the unit yet all work with Bluetooth on my phones.
Problem being also you can't use an external Bluetooth dongle to compensate.
The only suggestion I can give is to connect you GPS to your phone and then tether your phone via mirroring it to your unit so you use the mirrored image from your phone. Other than that you will need to just go with what GPS the unit already has.
My PX6 unit has a good GPS unit that works flawlessly. Speed from GPS is exactly the same as my Speedo and also my phone.
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My PX6 unit has a good GPS unit that works flawlessly. Speed from GPS is exactly the same as my Speedo and also my phone.
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Thank you for your advise, my GPS unit takes 5 minutes to get a fix when coming from underground parking, the external sensor takes less than 20 seconds and is way more accurate. The thing is, that the accuracy, even for off road driving is no issue for me, it is the time until I receive a signal. I will investigate the mirroring part, to find out if this is feasible or not. It's just annoying to have the unit and then mirror my phone.
Thank you
Chris
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Thank you for your advise, my GPS unit takes 5 minutes to get a fix when coming from underground parking, the external sensor takes less than 20 seconds and is way more accurate. The thing is, that the accuracy, even for off road driving is no issue for me, it is the time until I receive a signal. I will investigate the mirroring part, to find out if this is feasible or not. It's just annoying to have the unit and then mirror my phone.
Thank you
Chris
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Chris
Have you got an app on your head unit called easy connect or easy connection?
If you have, then you can use that for mirroring. All you will need to do is activate developer settings on your phone and then turn on debugging. Use your oem lead for your phone and plug it in to your head unit usb socket. It should automatically detect your phone. On your phone you should be given the default option for usb when it's plugged in, just choose charge only then you should be good to go. It also will automatically install the necessary app on your phone.
Make sure that the app on the unit is also upto date.
Good luck
Terry
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In the middle of this picture you can see an app named EasyCon. That's the app that you will see I hope.View attachment 5017129
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