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When I got my oneplus 5 I was drawn back by its pace and stamina, the camera isn't bad, but without OIS it can be a horrible solution especially if you're in motion and doing any kind of zooming.
Have tried every single camera apk available and none offer anything which may help at all..
At least until today when I tried the new (I think it's new ) feature on Google photos.
Open your camera.
Start a video which you know will have shake, zoom in, move around etc.
End the video and open up Google photos.
Click edit, then stabilise and it'll do the work for you.
I was quite shocked, the results are surprisingly amazing.
There are times when the frames overlap but in comparison to a very shaky experience it's absolutely brilliant.
Don't need anything but your phone, camera app and Google photos.
Processing is quick on the Oneplus 5 so not much of a problem but certainly not real time, take about 20 seconds for a short 30 second clip.
Hope this helps, it has with me. :good:
Hmmph, I actually like the EIS better then the OIS when taking video based on YouTube vids demonstrating against 2 other phones (OP5 vs both Samsung s8+ and iPhone 8+). It's a bit more stable then the OIS which in and of itself is pretty amazing. The only thing the OP5 lacks is the EIS on 1080p 60fps, EIS is only working on 1080p 30fps.
As far as photos are concerned, my OP5, on OOS 5.0.4, is way more then adequate for everyday stuff (Normal light) and just OK in low light. If you're zooming it is not very good but you can add a Magisk Module (Camera M) if you're rooted and it is significantly better (no water color painting effects in processing). I'm more then just an amateur photog so if I need anything important I make sure I have my DSLR so that may ultimately be the reason the camera is more then just fine for me.
Though it is nice that Google Photos added that post processing/algorithm
Eric214 said:
Hmmph, I actually like the EIS better then the OIS when taking video based on YouTube vids demonstrating against 2 other phones (OP5 vs both Samsung s8+ and iPhone 8+). It's a bit more stable then the OIS which in and of itself is pretty amazing. The only thing the OP5 lacks is the EIS on 1080p 60fps, EIS is only working on 1080p 30fps.
As far as photos are concerned, my OP5, on OOS 5.0.4, is way more then adequate for everyday stuff (Normal light) and just OK in low light. If you're zooming it is not very good but you can add a Magisk Module (Camera M) if you're rooted and it is significantly better (no water color painting effects in processing). I'm more then just an amateur photog so if I need anything important I make sure I have my DSLR so that may ultimately be the reason the camera is more then just fine for me.
Though it is nice that Google Photos added that post processing/algorithm
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That's great. I'm sharing something for people who have a problem with the evidently shakiness in comparison to an OIS capable device.
This is not a thread to discuss what's better. This is a thread for me to share a find, and for people if they didn't know about it and want to use it to say thank you, nothing more.
On a personal note, EIS is in no way a substitute for OIS, it just isn't..
Next time you're a passenger in a car, zoom in fully and record a stationary object whilst the car is in motion.
Your will have a very hard time with a lot of shaking.
An OIS enabled device has no problem in this regard..
Finally, If your don't require stabilisation for your device and you're happy the way it is then please refrain from commenting here, it's not helping anybody and there is no point, is rather not get the mods in to clear up this thread.
Thank you.
dladz said:
That's great. I'm sharing something for people who have a problem with the evidently shakiness in comparison to an OIS capable device.
This is not a thread to discuss what's better. This is a thread for me to share a find, and for people if they didn't know about it and want to use it to say thank you, nothing more.
On a personal note, EIS is in no way a substitute for OIS, it just isn't..
Next time you're a passenger in a car, zoom in fully and record a stationary object whilst the car is in motion.
Your will have a very hard time with a lot of shaking.
An OIS enabled device has no problem in this regard..
Finally, If your don't require stabilisation for your device and you're happy the way it is then please refrain from commenting here, it's not helping anybody and there is no point, is rather not get the mods in to clear up this thread.
Thank you.
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lol I do have a requirement for stabilization and the EIS out preforms an iPhone 8 and S8 with OIS. If you don't think so then your hands must shake like crazy.. As far as zooming all the way in, it is a digital zoom, not an optical zoom. I don't know a lot of people trying to zoom all the in on a video capture.
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lol I do have a requirement for stabilization and the EIS out preforms an iPhone 8 and S8 with OIS. If you don't think so then your hands must shake like crazy.. As far as zooming all the way in, it is a digital zoom, not an optical zoom. I don't know a lot of people trying to zoom all the in on a video capture.
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This is subjective, Just because you don't need sormthing doesn't mean others won't, and fyi my hands are like a rock and although I shouldn't have to justify myself, here's an example.
In my instance, I was driving along with my wife, me in the passenger seat, the Grenfell fire had just happened and I was capturing footage of it, we were on the dual carriageway way and the building was in the distance. I recorded with my HTC 10 at full zoom, this was perfect it adhered to every bump and jilt perfectly, a week later I tried with my oneplus, the oneplus was a mess, I have incredibly steady hands and it was impossible to get anything close to what the HTC offered.
I take a lot of photos and videos, some are zoomed some are not, some are moving some are stationary, some I have very little time to react to, not having OIS can mean a missed shot, poor video or both.
Furthermore I'm not here to tell you that you need this, it's you who's made the decision to come here and start saying that this isn't required, great that's your opinion, this is not a place for that, this is a place for people who DO have a problem with the EIS and believe me there are many besides me.
If you like the solution I've posted then say thanks and be happy, it works very well hence the share, I don't care if you're happy and you don't need stabilization, but this isn't the place to talk about that.
There is a camera thread you can share your views on, not in this thread.
PS: Not trying to be funny with you, but i don't want this thread to be a place for people to come and blindly defend a phone that should have had a key feature, OIS should be mandatory, EIS simply doesn't cut it in comparison, ask any photographer and they'll tell you the same thing.
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lol I do have a requirement for stabilization and the EIS out preforms an iPhone 8 and S8 with OIS. If you don't think so then your hands must shake like crazy.. As far as zooming all the way in, it is a digital zoom, not an optical zoom. I don't know a lot of people trying to zoom all the in on a video capture.
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I count as someone who has pretty stable hands and I can say that the EIS on OnePlus isn't even near OIS from an iPhone X/8 (idk about the S8, I don't have one so can't compare). EIS is good (and better than EIS from other phone brands) but isn't as good as OIS. Not like my videos come out as a blurry mess due to shaking but there's definitely a difference between X or 8.
david19au said:
I count as someone who has pretty stable hands and I can say that the EIS on OnePlus isn't even near OIS from an iPhone X/8 (idk about the S8, I don't have one so can't compare). EIS is good (and better than EIS from other phone brands) but isn't as good as OIS. Not like my videos come out as a blurry mess due to shaking but there's definitely a difference between X or 8.
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With your videos if there's shake and if you upload it to YouTube it will remove some of it, but Google photos actually does a better job.. unless I'm seeing things.
Was surprised by the results.
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With your videos if there's shake and if you upload it to YouTube it will remove some of it, but Google photos actually does a better job.. unless I'm seeing things.
Was surprised by the results.
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Yeah, it's not that terrible, I can look at the videos without vomiting :laugh:
dladz said:
When I got my oneplus 5 I was drawn back by its pace and stamina, the camera isn't bad, but without OIS it can be a horrible solution especially if you're in motion and doing any kind of zooming.
Have tried every single camera apk available and none offer anything which may help at all..
At least until today when I tried the new (I think it's new ) feature on Google photos.
Open your camera.
Start a video which you know will have shake, zoom in, move around etc.
End the video and open up Google photos.
Click edit, then stabilise and it'll do the work for you.
I was quite shocked, the results are surprisingly amazing.
There are times when the frames overlap but in comparison to a very shaky experience it's absolutely brilliant.
Don't need anything but your phone, camera app and Google photos.
Processing is quick on the Oneplus 5 so not much of a problem but certainly not real time, take about 20 seconds for a short 30 second clip.
Hope this helps, it has with me. :good:
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You were recording with stock OOS camera app, right? I know that in case of a stabilization in video, GCam can give much worse results
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Pshemo__ said:
You were recording with stock OOS camera app, right? I know that in case of a stabilization in video, GCam can give much worse results
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Yes it was the stock camera, I know my cameras and I know my phone's, ROMs, mods.
As I've said in the OP there is no combination of camera APK or ROM that gives an above par experience which would be comparable to OIS.
Simply put I've scoured every option that there is out there for a viable solution and there simply isn't one.
YouTube has its own algorithm for stabilization, as does Google photos.. the Google photos version is superior, I'm simply making people aware as it's helped me out.
I'm not sure if anyone here has had an OIS capable device but the experience compared to the stock OOS camera is literally night and day.
If anyone can't see that then they're either in denial or they have sormthing wrong with their eyes, it's that obvious.
Hi everyone! I need help, im 4/5 hours far from buying this phone in AliExpress. My main concern is the perfomance in instagram, how are the photos taken?, What about the video? Is there any in-video zoom delay? (I like to make dramatic zoom to my friends) And the main thing, the Focus feature, is enabled? help please!
Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
BigDisplay said:
Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
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Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
If we only can have g gcam v6 with night sight and googles great HDR+
yetiweston said:
Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
ninjamonkye said:
I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
yetiweston said:
Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
ninjamonkye said:
i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
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I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I hear ya. My favorite phone was the first Note Edge (with the one edge). Nice width and the edge had some useful apps associated with it. If it wasn't for the poor battery life I might still be using it!
Can someone please post the stock camera apk from M20X AL00 (china) version? The video record stopped working on mine and want to see if reinstalling it will fix it.
yetiweston said:
I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
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i think the recording will still be using the mic from the phone....in samsung camera app, there is setting to control the source....
try recording with you microphone...pulling it near and away from your voice....i think it will remain same volume....which means recording takes place at the phone..
BigDisplay said:
I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I couldnt ignore this post because I am the same way..I had a Sony Z Ultra, a Mediapad X2 and a Sony Z3 Tablet Compact (which I still have) as my phones but I wanted something more modern and oh boy, since all this trend of bagette shaped phones, it has been a struggle for me to find anything half decent. Finally settled on the Mate 20x which as awesome as it is, still feels so freaking tiny. Having a hard time adapting to the smaller phone but on the other side..damn this phone has great features!
I've just had my new Mate 20 X for a week and overall love the phone.
But the biggest gripe I have with this phone is the retard camera app. Why is it that when the app is set for 40MP resolution on the main camera, it will disable access to the wide-angle and telephoto lenses? This makes no sense what so ever mainly because the default 10MP setting absolutely sucks.. absurd over processing, contrast and sharpening. The best quality and most natural looking images I get is by using the 40MP setting with the main camera (under good lighting conditions). But then if I want to use the wide-angle or tele lens for a particular shot, I have to go back into Settings, fall back to the default 10MP option just so there is access to the other lenses. This is really really so bad. Why isn't there a setting of simply bring able to usr all the of 3 sensors' full native resolution instead of having to fall back to 10MP picture size just to be able to switch cameras? Is there a workaround this or another camera app than can work in a more logical way than the Huawei's camera app?
This aside, I love the phone.. great batter life, super fast, incredible overall build quality, really awesome hardware.. maybe the last great phone from Huawei for the foreseeable future as things look pretty grim for them. But the camera app, wow.. what a nightmare.
Anyway, maybe I'm doing something wrong and I haven't figured it out yet.. tanks in advance for any advice.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S11 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Few testing photos
I've loved the quality from the camera , I came from a Galaxy s10 and the difference is crazy noticeable, man the sharpness , contrast ,detail , zoom , bro is amazing I'm freaking nin love with this phone , sorry I can't upload photos , xda app says "bad request" ?
I don't know...the quality of the zoom is pretty junk
cause there is no zoom just sensor cropping and pathetic pricing, try Mi 10 pro
I like S20 Ultra 108Mpx sensor. Mostly I'm shooting on this sensor with export to 12Mpx in Lightroom if I'm not using 0.5x or 4x lenses.
https://photos.miksa.cz/Samsung-Galaxy-S20-Ultra-5G/Plucinske-skaly-18042020/
So I had an exynos S20, camera was very poor even after the update.
The 64mp camera had practically no auto focus, and the lag in taking the pic ment blur on every photo.
The lower resolution helped with the auto focus however still lag in the photo taking.
I am so much mad at this quality of photos near objects
I was trying to send my friend photo some resistors , and tried 5 times and photo is not sharp !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3b4kpk2jfh35ov1/20200422_190444.jpg?dl=0
shame on me that I sold my old pixel4XL phone
Ultra has problem with close photo. Try more distance and zoom.
nowy57 said:
I am so much mad at this quality of photos near objects
I was trying to send my friend photo some resistors , and tried 5 times and photo is not sharp !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3b4kpk2jfh35ov1/20200422_190444.jpg?dl=0
shame on me that I sold my old pixel4XL phone
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The main camera isn't for shots that close
I hadn't had a Samsung phone for a while, and I've come from a Mate 20 Pro, so although the camera on my S20+ "can" be better, it sometimes isn't at all. Macro is one area where Huawei does it so much better, all you need to do on a Huawei phone is get close to the target and the ai automatically switches camera lens for you to the best option, and focuses perfectly... This is something Samsung seems to lack, and it's a big miss for me. But surely, something that can be added in software.
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I hadn't had a Samsung phone for a while, and I've come from a Mate 20 Pro, so although the camera on my S20+ "can" be better, it sometimes isn't at all. Macro is one area where Huawei does it so much better, all you need to do on a Huawei phone is get close to the target and the ai automatically switches camera lens for you to the best option, and focuses perfectly... This is something Samsung seems to lack, and it's a big miss for me. But surely, something that can be added in software.
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Used to hate that with my P30, there was no way to disable AI from switching to macro, if they'd added that feature to the AI on/off function it would have made a lot more sense
Didn't you just used to turn off Master Ai? That's what I used to do on the Mate 20 Pro on the odd occasion and it was very easy, but personally I thought it was mostly a great feature.
*Detection* said:
Used to hate that with my P30, there was no way to disable AI from switching to macro, if they'd added that feature to the AI on/off function it would have made a lot more sense
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did you try to scan(make photo) of text page ?
I do a lots of scaning recipts/invoice and send them to my acccountant , most of them is not readble , too blurry
madpete said:
Didn't you just used to turn off Master Ai? That's what I used to do on the Mate 20 Pro on the odd occasion and it was very easy, but personally I thought it was mostly a great feature.
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Yes, as I said, disabling AI made no difference for macro auto
Oh right, that's wierd it worked fine on my Mate 20 Pro.
*Detection* said:
Used to hate that with my P30, there was no way to disable AI from switching to macro, if they'd added that feature to the AI on/off function it would have made a lot more sense
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*Detection* said:
Yes, as I said, disabling AI made no difference for macro auto
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Even my old iPhone 7 takes better photos then my S20+ Exynos
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Hello guys , I have a p40 pro , I just get it and I can still return it ...the thing its that I'm thinking to move to S20 Ultra , It's worth it ? From what I saw the camera on S20 Ultra its pretty bad .
Also, if someone knows , In UK at vodafone , wich version its sold , Ex or Snapdragon ?
I'm thinking about samsung because it has google services and much more development , but camera it's very important as well .
nowy57 said:
did you try to scan(make photo) of text page ?
I do a lots of scaning recipts/invoice and send them to my acccountant , most of them is not readble , too blurry
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what is your device? no issues for me S20 Ultra exynos
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
FinalBossJay said:
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.
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If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).
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If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.
isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
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About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you