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Hello everyone,
I am currently an Atrix 4G user and have the phone running on CM7. It is running silky smooth, super fast and has no lags whatsoever. Now I am really interested in getting the Nitro HD but from what I have been experiencing while playing around with in the store is that the UI seems to lag/stutter every now and then. At times, it even takes a second or two to react and change screens. I'm just worried that I will be disappointed with its performance and being stuck with it for at least a year.
Anybody is having these stutter/lag issues on their phones or is just this test phone at the store that's crappy?
I have one and unfortunately it does annoying little lags and hang ups all over the place. I even rooted, removed all bloat have very little running and it will still lag. the hardware is so fantastic, I'm just praying we get some developer support cause this hardware deserves better !
fkabibil said:
I have one and unfortunately it does annoying little lags and hang ups all over the place. I even rooted, removed all bloat have very little running and it will still lag. the hardware is so fantastic, I'm just praying we get some developer support cause this hardware deserves better !
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have u tried a different launcher?? The one that comes stock sucks.
Turning off animations under display settings seems to help a little
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I also experience lag on this phone. Have rooted and removed bloatware and running a different launcher. I also hope there will be developer support for this phone a my Inspire with virtuous ROM is smoother than this phone right now.
dalamchops said:
have u tried a different launcher?? The one that comes stock sucks.
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Yes, currently using ADW EX. Have also tried Launcher Pro+ and Go Launcher. It lags with everything. No matter what browser i use for example, it always lags and hangs on the back button or scrolling half way through a page it will stall for a second then kick in.
was there ever a CM7 release for any of the LG phones of the same family as the Nitro?? if there was, then it shouldn't be too difficult for them to create one for this phone. I think other than the resolution stressing the phone, I also think it's just bad coding on LG's part.
do a privacy > factory data reset
and the lags will be gone!
netnerd said:
do a privacy > factory data reset
and the lags will be gone!
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i agree. i also did a hard reset as well. i am very impressed with the performance of this phone.
I rooted the phone, did a hard reset, shut off unwanted AT&T and LG bloat processes and switched launcher to ADW. I also switched my main browser to Opera... Now running very smoothly!
Edit: guys don't confuse a factory reset vs. a hard reset. Factory rest will only wipe your personal data and you access this through the settings menu. A hard reset restores the phone and is started by holding the volume down, home and power keys while the phone is off.
Now its getting interesting, I'm almost assured to upgrade to it. Would anybody mind uploading a short video just to show how the lag is gone pls?
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aquariuz23 said:
Now its getting interesting, I'm almost assured to upgrade to it. Would anybody mind uploading a short video just to show how the lag is gone pls?
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Sure - I made a quick video about the results of my attempts to optimize the phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWA68pHzhMo&feature=youtu.be
(Sorry couldn't fig. out how to embed vid). All the steps I took to get this phone working to this point can be found here. The other thing I did not mentioned on that post is that I no longer use Go Launcher and now use ADW since it performs better.
What Widgets you using I must say it looks legit the way you have set up.
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when i did the hard reset it deleted the HD pictures and video that came pre-installed, fyi.
also, i've decided there's no reason for me to root mine, this thing is smooth as silk. very nice device.
aimhelix said:
Sure - I made a quick video about the results of my attempts to optimize the phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWA68pHzhMo&feature=youtu.be
(Sorry couldn't fig. out how to embed vid). All the steps I took to get this phone working to this point can be found here. The other thing I did not mentioned on that post is that I no longer use Go Launcher and now use ADW since it performs better.
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Has the battery life improved significantly after all those changes?
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Has the battery life improved significantly after all those changes?
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Yes, it definitely doesn't burn through 10-15%/hr now. I used to take it off the charger around 7:30am and I'd come home around 7 to -10%. Now I come home w/some medium usage and I'll still at least have 30-40%.
scott0 said:
when i did the hard reset it deleted the HD pictures and video that came pre-installed, fyi.
also, i've decided there's no reason for me to root mine, this thing is smooth as silk. very nice device.
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Scott,
I would like to know your experience with the phone. It had lots of lag in the corp store, guess you had the same lag when you got it as well? What have you done besides a hard reset? You using stock browser? How is the battery life and have you done anything to improve it?
Everyone,
I tested the Nitro and it had lag in the corp store. It was very noticeable mainly when you pinch and zoom in/out of graphics heavy websites. I really want to like this phone but the battery life and lagging kill this thing. I'm looking for a phone and right now I am leaning towards the samsung skyrocket as it has none of these problems and has great dev support. No 720p though. However, I loaded up a 1080p video on youtube and compared the two phones side by side but did not see that much difference. I was expecting to be blown away. I don't know if it was is my eyes or if the screen is just too small to make a big difference.
I wouldn't want to root the phone. However, I don't mind doing a hard and factory reset or other things as long as I can do it without rooting. Seems like some are having success by doing just factory and hard resets.
I'd like to know some of the experiences of other Nitro users before making making my decision.
carlos4 said:
I would like to know your experience with the phone. It had lots of lag in the corp store, guess you had the same lag when you got it as well? What have you done besides a hard reset? You using stock browser? How is the battery life and have you done anything to improve it?
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I I didn't really have any lag with the phone. There was some lag at first. From the homepage to the apt page. I am speaking this in fact. its doing pretty good interpreting my words. I deleted the at&t bloatware that could be deleted. I did a hard factory reset. I installed go launcher and pro amP. Antutu attached. Fantastic song gorgeous screen Still a valuating battery seems to drains quickly. I'm very happy With this phone
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Yes, it definitely doesn't burn through 10-15%/hr now. I used to take it off the charger around 7:30am and I'd come home around 7 to -10%. Now I come home w/some medium usage and I'll still at least have 30-40%.
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That's great! Did you do a quadrant benchmark after your optimizations? Also, while browsing graphic-heavy sites with Opera, do you experience lag while pinch zooming?
did a factory reset.... dramatic difference in how smooth it is now.
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
Unfortunately this seems to be a problem that plagues all Samsung android devices. That's why I quit buying Samsung products many years ago. Last week I decided to give them another go with the Note 4 and I do love the phone, but..... it's doing the same things you describe and that I have experienced before. Samsung puts too much bloat that you can't get rid of on the phone and I think that all of that on top of touch wiz just makes for a very poor user experience. I had the droid turbo previously and want to go back to it after only a week with this device.
Dang! I guess my only hope is for Lollipop to make things smoother.
My Note 4 started lagging almost immediately when it was brand new. I brought the device home, ran the initial setup (which did restore most of my google play store apps that I had used on my previous device), and the lag started almost immediately. I spent far too much time trying task killers, phone cleaners, clearing cache, etc., etc. I finally bit the bullet and did a factory reset.
Doing a factory reset really helped a lot. I did make sure to turn off auto update and auto restore in Google Play Store first. After completing the initial setup I manually installed ONLY the apps that I use regularly .
Factory resetting is a bit of a pain, but not really all that bad. I think it is probably required to solve your problem.
Debloating the uneeded preinstalled apps helps too. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294 for instructions on how to debloat the Note 4 without requiring root (or voiding your warranty).
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
Hardware-related?
Sorry but the Touchwiz is terrible stuff is overblown. I haven't really had any stuttering after months of owning the device. The Note 4 came with the slimmest Touchwiz to date and, as you say, the Note 3 had no problems with performance. Yes, its good to debloat, but what you are experiencing seems to be more serious. The fact that your Antutu benchmark isn't close to where it should be is a red flag. My 910V registers 46680. If a factory reset doesn't work, you may try to return it or contact Samsung to see what options you have available to you.
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I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
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flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
Ashwin Prabhunerurkar said:
holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
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Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
Anzion said:
Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
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if it is happening only to you then my guess is it is an hardware problem and get your device replaced
but better backup your device as the verizon people will want to format your device and reflash it before they declare it as a bad device and replace it
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
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Good luck, hope this works for you. Please let us know if this solves your problem, or not.
Fyi: My Note 4 gets an AnTuTu Benchmark score of 47315 (free app available from Google Play).
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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I just Antutu'd mine and got around 39,000 . Then I cleared cache and ram and the restarted, . After the test ran faster, can't say twice as fast just faster. The results were 40,0007. According to the comparisons mine was 5 below the listing for the Note 4. the one item that did bother me is that the S5 was listed one model ahead of mine, but 4 models away from the listed Note 4.
In your case there must be apps running that you don't know of. You have to check running apps in the app manager. Just look on the "ALL" listing and turn off any that you can turn off and don't need. Many of them show " Turn off" but it's grayed out which is total bs to me. Plus from some web searching I've read that the new S6 may be bloat free
Lastly, use Greenify- go to settings/assesibility/Greenify
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Doing a factory reset seems to have solved the problem. Also, I didn't sync all my apps over, so that may have caused the problem the first time.
I'm actually scoring good, too. Thank you guys for helping!
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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That was the culprit in my case. Huge change that took my model to the top on the list registering 49,987. I'll leave it off for a day or 2 and see what happens to the battery performance. While using the power saver the battery has been stellar. From off the charger at 7:30 am Id have 65% by 7 pm
As far as lag, to get rid of it just set Window, Transition and Animator scale to "off" under Developer options and you should be good to go. I've done that since the S3 days no problem and phone gets waay faster.
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
I have no lag issues at all. This Note 4 is the smoothest operating Samsung phone that I have ever owned. Here's my results:
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I would send it back to Verizon. Must be a hardware problem I'm guessing. Good luck
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KamajiH said:
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
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You could try Greenify (free version should be fine) and see which apps it suggests be hibernated. Just don't hibernate anything that generates notifications that you need. This has helped me in the past. Some apps like Facebook are notorious for causing battery drain. I uninstalled FB and use a browser link (saved to my home screen) to check my account when I want.
I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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You're right on the Antutu, mine is about the same.
Maybe who ever has an issue should state on where and what part of the phone
examples-
Internet access and page return speed- connection related
Email access and refresh speed- same as above
Screen swiping speed- Touch wiz, try Nova
Stock apps performance- one's that don't need Int access and ones that do- possibly here could lie the issue
Texting - sending/ receiving ?- with Verizon this is purely connection related
Also, whoever suggested to kill the Face book app , you're 100% right. I use a link now and the whole phone works better
Last- I use the Samsung app- Vitamins. For me, I use is the system cleanup. This goes along with the left menu button clean up and Greenify
Its finally here! The first final release for Nougat 7.0
For now its through SPFT. If you want the OTA you'll have to wait until next month.
http://community.umidigi.com/thread-6292-1-1.html
Enjoy!
OTA "is working" for me...
I have to download .zip file from UMI DIGI site copy to SD card and use "Local update" in phone update menu. No personal data will be removed.
Hi i am using version from october 20161017.
Must i first upgrade to 20161721 and then upgrade via SPFT to Nougat?
No need for that. Flash it from your current rom.
Battery consumption
Hi. What about battery consumption in 7?? It looks more battery consumption for me ....
Is the camera any better?
drakJBC1 said:
Hi. What about battery consumption in 7?? It looks more battery consumption for me ....
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Because this is the first official version of Nougat the optimisation for Wakelocks isn't the best. Also when you upgrade to a totally new Android version you need a at least 3 charge cycles where you go from 100% to 5% before you charge your device up to 100% again. One thing I've done due to the poor Wakelock management is using greenify, it works even better if you have a rooted device.
dkzg said:
Is the camera any better?
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The camera on umi super will always be rubbish. I haven't noticed any real change.
Creedo4Life said:
The camera on umi super will always be rubbish. I haven't noticed any real change.
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The lens is not the software is bad. What about third party camera apps? Are they still black?
dkzg said:
The lens is not the software is bad. What about third party camera apps? Are they still black?
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The dark camera issue has somewhat been resolved in third party apps. I noticed a bug that still persist using the selfie camera on snapchat, taking photos looks fine but if you try video recording the screen goes very dark like the previous dark camera issue.
If the poor camera was just down to software don't you think Umi would've fixed it already? I mean i had this phone since July 2016 and not much has changed. I never got this device for the camera though but for the reasonable hardware for a very cheap price.
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The dark camera issue has somewhat been resolved in third party apps. I noticed a bug that still persist using the selfie camera on snapchat, taking photos looks fine but if you try video recording the screen goes very dark like the previous dark camera issue.
If the poor camera was just down to software don't you think Umi would've fixed it already? I mean i had this phone since July 2016 and not much has changed. I never got this device for the camera though but for the reasonable hardware for a very cheap price.
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Try Open camera app on play store. It stopped twitching of the picture. But it was dark. If it's not great!
Im not an expert but i think the problem is that they take the camera module from i.e. Samsung Galaxy s6 and some new processor from MediaTek and can't make them fully compatible...or something like that...
i am asking here because in the umi forums no one seems to be interested in responding to questions.
does anyone still has android 6 installed and rooted? i would need the apk: mtkquicksearchbox
this is the grey searchbox enabled on the homescreen by default. with this one you could search and find everything and i have no idea why i now have to cope with that bad google one.
Any root methods for Android 7.0 of UMi Super?
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i am asking here because in the umi forums no one seems to be interested in responding to questions.
does anyone still has android 6 installed and rooted? i would need the apk: mtkquicksearchbox
this is the grey searchbox enabled on the homescreen by default. with this one you could search and find everything and i have no idea why i now have to cope with that bad google one.
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I have bad news for you. THe Mtkquicksearchbox doesn't work on Nougat 7. Before switching over i saved the APK and when i tried to install it after i upgraded from N6 to N7 the app just won't install.
I believe it has to do with something on the writing permissions on the system. Even after rooting my phone and giving rw permission in es file explorer it wouldn't work.
I prefer the mtk quicksearch over google and hope this might come back in a later software upgrade by Umi but i highly doubt they will put it back in future releases of N7, i could be wrong though.
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I have bad news for you. THe Mtkquicksearchbox doesn't work on Nougat 7. Before switching over i saved the APK and when i tried to install it after i upgraded from N6 to N7 the app just won't install.
I believe it has to do with something on the writing permissions on the system. Even after rooting my phone and giving rw permission in es file explorer it wouldn't work.
I prefer the mtk quicksearch over google and hope this might come back in a later software upgrade by Umi but i highly doubt they will put it back in future releases of N7, i could be wrong though.
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thank you for this answer, i suspected something like this.
Sim Card Not Detected
I updated my Android Umi Super through the local method.
But now my simcards cannot be detected.
I have tried re-booting...cold boots, Airplane Mode On Off
Simcard removal... Another Local Install
Etc.
What Should I do.
Updated to the latest firmware, now I'm getting constant soft reboots...
Tried through local OTA and the soft reboots started. Redownloaded and managed to get it to flash through local OTA again in between soft reboots, no change. Full factory reset, no change.
Tried updating through SPTool, still getting the same soft reboots every minute or so.
Any ideas out there?
Pls so I shouldn't download the v7.01...... Again if there will be problem right.
Microphone not working well after update
Since my upgrade to android 7 on my UMI super I have found a few bugs:
1.) Banking app is not working any more
2.) When I do a video chat with my friends they can't hear me at all and mostly hear white noise. This is the same on skype, messenger, watsapp calling etc. This was not present in android 6. I have reset my phone and still both problems exist Anyway to revert back to android 6?
Have they fixed the crap/no gps lock issues??? Or is that just a pipe dream???
My phone is smooth for the most part.
Some minimal stuttering when scrolling.
Sometimes I have stutters when swiping down or opening notifications, using multitasking. It's still less than competition.
What bothers me the most are the slowdowns, there are menus and UI elements that consistently have like 15fp/s.
I have these in certain locations or apps.
1. When I have the old open with menu pop-up with apps shown in a vertical list
2. Google Photos when in landcape and it seemingly switches to different color space
3. Some older gen apps
I haven't been able to find anyone else who confirms experiencing these issues too.
Google support was useless.
Try disabling Digital Wellbeing. It's helped a lot of Pixel users.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/12/18616747/google-digital-wellbeing-slower-pixel-performance
try going back to the latest version of oreo. I find it smoother and the battery seems more steady on the decline.
aoaleman said:
Try disabling Digital Wellbeing. It's helped a lot of Pixel users.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/12/18616747/google-digital-wellbeing-slower-pixel-performance
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I already did that, it improved the responsiveness and delay, but all of these issues still stand.
I can't understand if I am truly the only one, because I can't find nobody complaining, except when there was that huge delay, but I don't have such extreme case.
dimpoblimpo said:
try going back to the latest version of oreo. I find it smoother and the battery seems more steady on the decline.
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I don't really want to do that, there are many improvements from Pie, that I really favor. Did You go back to Oreo because You were experiencing the issues, how long ago was this?
Try factory resetting then restoring. I'm on pie and have no stuttering whatsoever
I don't really want to do that, there are many improvements from Pie, that I really favor. Did You go back to Oreo because You were experiencing the issues, how long ago was this?[/QUOTE]
I got my pixel 2xl in November and liked oreo but upgraded after a few weeks to pie. Had it going for a little over a month and battery was the first thing I noticed having the operating system take up second most battery next to screen on time. Too many features and background stuff happening I saw no benefit for so I decided to try Pie ROMs to customize the volume rocker menu and just have a cleaner gapps with less pie stuff. After a few weeks of different ROMs I just went back to stock Oreo and haven't looked back. My curiosity of trying pie and customizing ROMs was fulfilled and now I'm just keeping what I found the safest for everyday when shuffling apps and relying on battery.
beezar said:
Try factory resetting then restoring. I'm on pie and have no stuttering whatsoever
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I already did that. Did not help at all. I have the same issues in Safe Mode too.
Can you try to record a 4K video, then play it back on Google Photos, and as it's playing swipe up?
Nobody asked the most important things:
1: stock, unrooted?
2. Beta Q or official Pie?
richii0207 said:
Nobody asked the most important things:
1: stock, unrooted?
2. Beta Q or official Pie?
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+1 ^^^^^^^^^^^
If 100% stock, there's probably not much you can do except a factory reset. If you've already done that with little to no improvement, then maybe you just have an aging device.
If rooted, I'd suggest a full wipe, 100% clean flash of the latest factory image (leave the -w intact).
My 2 XL is one of the earliest released devices (Oct 17) and it still runs like new. Of course I'm rooted and flash a fresh factory image monthly (or every other month) and only charge my battery for 15% to 95% (no empirical evidence that it absolutely helps, but it doesn't hurt).
richii0207 said:
Nobody asked the most important things:
1: stock, unrooted?
2. Beta Q or official Pie?
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Az Biker said:
+1 ^^^^^^^^^^^
If 100% stock, there's probably not much you can do except a factory reset. If you've already done that with little to no improvement, then maybe you just have an aging device.
If rooted, I'd suggest a full wipe, 100% clean flash of the latest factory image (leave the -w intact).
My 2 XL is one of the earliest released devices (Oct 17) and it still runs like new. Of course I'm rooted and flash a fresh factory image monthly (or every other month) and only charge my battery for 15% to 95% (no empirical evidence that it absolutely helps, but it doesn't hurt).
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Stock official Pie. Had the issue for all the versions I ever had, since I started noticing the issues ~1 month after purchase. Purchased as new in 2018 November.
Not related to aging, maybe defective hardware. No physical or otherwise abuse. I take extra care not to overcharge the battery, or discharge.
It runs "like new" to me as well, but I have stutters in certain places, and it's uncertain to me if it's even a hardware defect, maybe it's software bug.
I have performed a factory reset. And I also tried opting in for Android Q beta, and then opting out, to make the phone download a new factory image. But I only ever did it with the phone, without rooting or anything similar.
Xypleth said:
Stock official Pie. Had the issue for all the versions I ever had, since I started noticing the issues ~1 month after purchase. Purchased as new in 2018 November.
Not related to aging, maybe defective hardware. No physical or otherwise abuse. I take extra care not to overcharge the battery, or discharge.
It runs "like new" to me as well, but I have stutters in certain places, and it's uncertain to me if it's even a hardware defect, maybe it's software bug.
I have performed a factory reset. And I also tried opting in for Android Q beta, and then opting out, to make the phone download a new factory image. But I only ever did it with the phone, without rooting or anything similar.
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Still under the 1 year warranty, why not get an RMA and get a replacement?
Az Biker said:
Still under the 1 year warranty, why not get an RMA and get a replacement?
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I'm just not convinced that this is indeed a hardware issue.
I've seen users talking about this, a little bit, but none have taken this seriously, so maybe they just get used to it.
For comparison OnePlus 3T and Samsung S8 is so much more laggy compared. But I didn't get the low frame rates in earlier mentioned areas.
Edit: To further explain the reason for not RMA'ing. If there's no proof that the issue is RMA'able, then I'm just going to waste my and their time on something that can't be fixed.
Edit2: There are people saying that Samsung phones don't lag and stutter, yet I have not seen a single Samsung phone that doesn't lag and stutter. Yes, even the S10. Pixel 2 XL is smoother than the S10. But while it is smoother, I experience these frame rate slow downs, I do not see on other phones.
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I'm just not convinced that this is indeed a hardware issue.
I've seen users talking about this, a little bit, but none have taken this seriously, so maybe they just get used to it.
For comparison OnePlus 3T and Samsung S8 is so much more laggy compared. But I didn't get the low frame rates in earlier mentioned areas.
Edit: To further explain the reason for not RMA'ing. If there's no proof that the issue is RMA'able, then I'm just going to waste my and their time on something that can't be fixed.
Edit2: There are people saying that Samsung phones don't lag and stutter, yet I have not seen a single Samsung phone that doesn't lag and stutter. Yes, even the S10. Pixel 2 XL is smoother than the S10. But while it is smoother, I experience these frame rate slow downs, I do not see on other phones.
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My RMA suggestion was based on your comment that this was first noticed soon after purchase as well as on multiple versions.
Only you know what's best for you and your device; we're just offering suggestions for your to consider :good:
Az Biker said:
My RMA suggestion was based on your comment that this was first noticed soon after purchase as well as on multiple versions.
Only you know what's best for you and your device; we're just offering suggestions for your to consider :good:
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I appreciate it, very much.
So You're saying, that You don't experience any stutters or lags, that I mentioned, or that I didn't..?
And You are not counting in, but notice the lags and stutters that get introduced, when you use the phone while apps are installing or updating, yes?
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I appreciate it, very much.
So You're saying, that You don't experience any stutters or lags, that I mentioned, or that I didn't..?
And You are not counting in, but notice the lags and stutters that get introduced, when you use the phone while apps are installing or updating, yes?
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The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps
I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
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The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps
I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
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Can I ask You to help test out a few places?
Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA
The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.
And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
To replicate:
1. Open Google app
2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded
3. Long press on a picture to download
4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...
5. Click on "share" button
Xypleth said:
Can I ask You to help test out a few places?
Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA
The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.
And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
To replicate:
1. Open Google app
2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded
3. Long press on a picture to download
4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...
5. Click on "share" button
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Absolutely, the "Open with" dialog is the single lagging place in all the Pixel UI.
Always experienced this in every version, stock / Q, with or without custom kernels.
Xypleth said:
Can I ask You to help test out a few places?
Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA
The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.
And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
To replicate:
1. Open Google app
2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded
3. Long press on a picture to download
4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...
5. Click on "share" button
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I went to imgur, clicked link to download pic, clicked on download file, popped right open.
Did this a few times, no lag at all.
blackbird5308 said:
Absolutely, the "Open with" dialog is the single lagging place in all the Pixel UI.
Always experienced this in every version, stock / Q, with or without custom kernels.
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That is reassuring, but still troubling. Thanks for telling me.
I have exactly the same experience, I also tried Q and it was the same.
Az Biker said:
I went to imgur, clicked link to download pic, clicked on download file, popped right open.
Did this a few times, no lag at all.
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Popped right open, means that you have a default set for the app which opens the download.
What stutters here is the menu that shows apps to : open the file with
Az Biker said:
The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps
I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
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What setup of ROM, kernel and mods do you have?
Hello.
I updated my S20 to 3.0 One Ui and i have two problems.
Navigation bar gestures are slower then usual and opening apps too.
And why background on app drawer are not transparent?
Talentooman said:
Hello.
I updated my S20 to 3.0 One Ui and i have two problems.
Navigation bar gestures are slower then usual and opening apps too.
And why background on app drawer are not transparent?
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I have the same problem with a S20 Plus after switching to Android 11. Laggy when switching from applications to Home. A little lag when opening applications on the Home section. I tried a hard reset, wipe cache partition but no change. It is possible to change the firmware to another country. Maybe we can solve the problem.
Yesterday updated fine. Had a problems with big lagging but today everything is perfect and smooth without any changes from my side.
It's big update so I made a factory reset
One of the first things I do any Android is turn off all animations in Developer Options.
Do the same on the PCs.
A need for speed.
So did I. But this is not a solution. Did you pay a lot of money for this phone to go into Developer Option and force your phone to work better? It's not like that? So it's not right what Samsung is doing with these updates. And on One Ui 2.5 I had the same lag.
It is very strange that many do not have this problem.
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Yesterday updated fine. Had a problems with big lagging but today everything is perfect and smooth without any changes from my side.
It's big update so I made a factory reset
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I reset the phone from Recovery Mode, I gave wipe cache partition and I still had lag. I hope it's a software problem. Do you think this lag comes from a hardware problem?
See what the cpu load is when it's doing this.
Turn animations see if it helps or not.
Does it happen in safe mode?
blackhawk said:
See what the cpu load is when it's doing this.
Turn animations see if it helps or not.
Does it happen in safe mode?
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It behaves the same way in Safe Mode. I switched all animations to 0.5. I hope it will be resolved at the next update.
LeeView011977 said:
It behaves the same way in Safe Mode. I switched all animations to 0.5. I hope it will be resolved at the next update.
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See if it's using excessive cpu or ram resources when that happens... if so track it down.
There may be something you missed, play with it.
Pay attention to any power management that is active, a known source of gremlins.
This is why when I have a fast, stable OS I like, I leave it be.
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I reset the phone from Recovery Mode, I gave wipe cache partition and I still had lag. I hope it's a software problem. Do you think this lag comes from a hardware problem?
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Really dont know. Any changes today?
blackhawk said:
See if it's using excessive cpu or ram resources when that happens... if so track it down.
There may be something you missed, play with it.
Pay attention to any power management that is active, a known source of gremlins.
This is why when I have a fast, stable OS I like, I leave it be.
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I checked the processor and everything is ok. Resources remain the same. It still has lag in transitions.
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Unfortunately no...
My device is S20+ Exynos Indian.
Have exactly the same problems.
Samsung always f#kc things up with gesture navigation, I mean seriously how hard is to leave it transparent ff$.
Lag while using swipe gestures is happening for me on Nova launcher. I never use one ui launcher.
I guess samsung is still lagging behind other OEMs when it comes to third party launcher support for gesture navigation.
agentsandy007 said:
My device is S20+ Exynos Indian.
Have exactly the same problems.
Samsung always f#kc things up with gesture navigation, I mean seriously how hard is to leave it transparent ff$.
Lag while using swipe gestures is happening for me on Nova launcher. I never use one ui launcher.
I guess samsung is still lagging behind other OEMs when it comes to third party launcher support for gesture navigation.
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I was Nova Launcher prime user for a year, but i use gestures and on One UI 2.5, gestures was super snappy, super fast but now on 3.0, i feel like is lagging, like animation is 10 milisecound longer, and i hate it.
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I checked the processor and everything is ok. Resources remain the same. It still has lag in transitions.
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So if you disable all animations is it ok?
I never saw the point in them especially if the machine is fast.
blackhawk said:
So if you disable all animations is it ok?
I never saw the point in them especially if the machine is fast.
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It works faster but it is not normal for an expensive phone to work forced by certain settings. To give you an example of how big the difference is, my wife has a OnePlus 5T and it goes faster than my phone ...
LeeView011977 said:
It works faster but it is not normal for an expensive phone to work forced by certain settings. To give you an example of how big the difference is, my wife has a OnePlus 5T and it goes faster than my phone ...
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Animations by their very nature always slow down a fast machine which is why I always disable them.
Backup all data now. When Androids crash many times the only warnings you get are slow performance and subtle stability issues.
The next boot could be the last on that load. Normally Androids are very stable... if it's a good load.
Try a network reset. Double check all settings and clear system and Samsung apks data as needed. You could globally clear settings but you might as well do a full reload at that point.
You can try running SD Maid to see if it gets rid of some of the junk.
You could try something I normally never recommend, a hard reset. It may not help at all or the issue will reoccur if it's an apk or settings issue to begin with.
If the OS has been heavy used or has had large firmware updates done, it may be that time.
It only takes one bad install/uninstall to screw up an OS. If the load is older then 6 months now might be a good time... nothing like a clean OS with only the apks you use and like loaded.
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Animations by their very nature always slow down a fast machine which is why I always disable them.
Backup all data now. When Androids crash many times the only warnings you get are slow performance and subtle stability issues.
The next boot could be the last on that load. Normally Androids are very stable... if it's a good load.
Try a network reset. Double check all settings and clear system and Samsung apks data as needed. You could globally clear settings but you might as well do a full reload at that point.
You can try running SD Maid to see if it gets rid of some of the junk.
You could try something I normally never recommend, a hard reset. It may not help at all or the issue will reoccur if it's an apk or settings issue to begin with.
If the OS has been heavy used or has had large firmware updates done, it may be that time.
It only takes one bad install/uninstall to screw up an OS. If the load is older then 6 months now might be a good time... nothing like a clean OS with only the apks you use and like loaded.
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The phone was activated on December 7. When opened, run One Ui 2.5. He had the same problems. I thought upgrading to One Ui 3.0 would solve the problem. But that didn't happen. I also did a Hard Reset. No change.
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The phone was activated on December 7. When opened, run One Ui 2.5. He had the same problems. I thought upgrading to One Ui 3.0 would solve the problem. But that didn't happen. I also did a Hard Reset. No change.
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So the phone was ok on 2.5?
Could downgrade it back to 2.5 if so.
Probably too late to return it; if not do so!
Otherwise having Samsung look it over be the best bet.
If it's a carrier phone, time to start digging into them to make it right.
Sorry to hear of this...
Upside is you get to practice your assertiveness skillset. You can never have too much of that.
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So the phone was ok on 2.5?
Could downgrade it back to 2.5 if so.
Probably too late to return it; if not do so!
Otherwise having Samsung look it over be the best bet.
If it's a carrier phone, time to start digging into them to make it right.
Sorry to hear of this...
Upside is you get to practice your assertiveness skillset. You can never have too much of that.
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Nope. And on 2.5 he did the same. Do you think it's a motherboard problem?
On the other hand, is it really normal to always keep a phone with 0.5 x animations?