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Does anyone know where I can get a replacement SOM/MCU board? Only one I found (RK3188) was on aliexpress for $120. That seems like way too much when the whole device was only $320.
I would prefer a RK3188, but a replacement RK3066 would be appreciated too.
xaraz said:
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement SOM/MCU board? Only one I found (RK3188) was on aliexpress for $120. That seems like way too much when the whole device was only $320.
I would prefer a RK3188, but a replacement RK3066 would be appreciated too.
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Contact him. [email protected]. I bought my 3188 SOM there.
I just send an email to these guy... we will see where all these ends...
halloj said:
Contact him. [email protected]. I bought my 3188 SOM there.
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Awesome, thanks. I contacted joying (probably the asian one) already, but they said they can't help me. Hope this works out better
xaraz said:
Awesome, thanks. I contacted joying (probably the asian one) already, but they said they can't help me. Hope this works out better
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He told me have it, or the one I am looking for, but it is little expensive.... will wait little bit...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JULCTYE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A17YHR60ETNWLC&psc=1
Thoughts? Thinking about ordering one.
I just returned a headunit from ATOTO because it worked like crap.
I like the prospect of 7.1 and offline maps already installed.
Quadcore vs Octacore I don't think makes a huge difference here.
Would love to know opinions.
I have a similar product to this with the product ID "B071LT7LC3" on Amazon. (I cannot post links yet) From the looks of things, my unit is likely the same hardware as yours, only with a different front panel and added DVD player. This is the information I read from the device:
MCU version: MTCD_XRC_V2.52_1
Build number: px3-userdebug 7.1.1 NMF26X eng.hct.20170527.145603 test-keys
Kernerl version: 3.0.101+ [email protected] #550
Model: px3 (800x480 O)
I sadly managed to brick mine by running an incompatible root method for Joying devices via Wireless ADB. I have not found a root method actually works on these units yet. If you are looking for an Android stereo that you can root, look elsewhere. I got a copy of the firmware from Hizpo, but not even that can fix the damage I did to it. It is with this warning I hope to prevent you making the same expensive mistake.
Note that you cannot use these units with a PC via USB, you must use Wireless ADB using an app. Use "126" to get into your factory settings and play with those, or "adbon" to enable debugging. You can also download a Development Options app to reach those settings, as they are hidden. The various methods of recoveries, including the one provided by the seller (Hold down the power button, turn on the power to the radio, release after 5 seconds and wait 30 to reach the recovery), did not seem to work for me either. It is possible I corrupted that too, but I am not sure.
I will happily share any other opinions I have about the unit if I ever manage to get it unbricked.
AndroidBricking said:
I have a similar product to this with the product ID "B071LT7LC3" on Amazon. (I cannot post links yet) From the looks of things, my unit is likely the same hardware as yours, only with a different front panel and added DVD player. This is the information I read from the device:
MCU version: MTCD_XRC_V2.52_1
Build number: px3-userdebug 7.1.1 NMF26X eng.hct.20170527.145603 test-keys
Kernerl version: 3.0.101+ [email protected] #550
Model: px3 (800x480 O)
I sadly managed to brick mine by running an incompatible root method for Joying devices via Wireless ADB. I have not found a root method actually works on these units yet. If you are looking for an Android stereo that you can root, look elsewhere. I got a copy of the firmware from Hizpo, but not even that can fix the damage I did to it. It is with this warning I hope to prevent you making the same expensive mistake.
Note that you cannot use these units with a PC via USB, you must use Wireless ADB using an app. Use "126" to get into your factory settings and play with those, or "adbon" to enable debugging. You can also download a Development Options app to reach those settings, as they are hidden. The various methods of recoveries, including the one provided by the seller (Hold down the power button, turn on the power to the radio, release after 5 seconds and wait 30 to reach the recovery), did not seem to work for me either. It is possible I corrupted that too, but I am not sure.
I will happily share any other opinions I have about the unit if I ever manage to get it unbricked.
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FYI - there are literally 1000s of different MTCD units by about 10 different manufacturers, they all share pretty much the same hardware and the software is interchangeable
typos1 said:
FYI - there are literally 1000s of different MTCD units by about 10 different manufacturers, they all share pretty much the same hardware and the software is interchangeable
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But certainly not root methods and certain firmwares. Pick the wrong one and you can brick your device beyond restoration - to the point where the recovery does not work and no firmware update worked to fix it. I had to get a new unit.
AndroidBricking said:
But certainly not root methods and certain firmwares. Pick the wrong one and you can brick your device beyond restoration - to the point where the recovery does not work and no firmware update worked to fix it. I had to get a new unit.
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Yes, all RK3188 MTCD units are the same inside, they use the same SoM and ROMs ARE compatible as long as you get the screen res and processor type correct and even if you get the screen res wrong its no big deal, it wont brick.
However if you flash the firmware from an MTCB unit, or from an entirely different, unrelated unit , its sounds like this is what you did.
I was looking at this, but when I noticed it said PX3 I decided to skip.. Doesn't make sense to not have the PX5 chip.
Now if there was a version with a PX5 on the new os Id be interest.
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I was looking at this, but when I noticed it said PX3 I decided to skip.. Doesn't make sense to not have the PX5 chip.
Now if there was a version with a PX5 on the new os Id be interest.
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Sure the PX5 will be fast, but the PX3, especially with 2Gb of RAM is perfectly good.
bazgrim01 said:
Thoughts? Thinking about ordering one.
I just returned a headunit from ATOTO because it worked like crap.
I like the prospect of 7.1 and offline maps already installed.
Quadcore vs Octacore I don't think makes a huge difference here.
Would love to know opinions.
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If you decide to order, please update with your impressions. I too tried the ATOTO M4 garbage head unit, and it has almost encouraged me to give up on them entirely. If you find this one to be worthwhile, with it being at a similar price I might give it a shot.
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If you decide to order, please update with your impressions. I too tried the ATOTO M4 garbage head unit, and it has almost encouraged me to give up on them entirely. If you find this one to be worthwhile, with it being at a similar price I might give it a shot.
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No need for him to post impressions - its an MTCD unit and theres a whole forum about that you can read to see what theyre like :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/mtcd-discussion-questions-development
Ordered this unit myself. I'll share thoughts after I get it.
Installed, and I'm definitely impressed. Very zippy and sounds great.
ricanxd said:
Installed, and I'm definitely impressed. Very zippy and sounds great.
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What MCU version do you have ?
Xrc v2.54a_1
ricanxd said:
Xrc v2.54a_1
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I meant MTCB/C or MTCD, by the look of it, its MTCD.
Yeah it's a MTCD unit px3
ricanxd said:
Yeah it's a MTCD unit px3
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Lol, yes we know its RK3188/PX3, there are also MTCB and MTCC RK3188/PX3 units around, I wanted to know which you had, B, C or D.
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Lol, yes we know its RK3188/PX3, there are also MTCB and MTCC RK3188/PX3 units around, I wanted to know which you had, B, C or D.
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Gotcha, just got confused since you asked what MCU version. I thought all new units are shipping with MTCD.
ricanxd said:
Gotcha, just got confused since you asked what MCU version. I thought all new units are shipping with MTCD.
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No, not all units are MTCD, I ve heard a rumour that a company is working on MTCB/C N, even if that is untrue then you can still buy MTCB/C units.
That I know. You can still buy KitKat units..
ricanxd said:
That I know. You can still buy KitKat units..
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Yeah, makes me laugh, the sellers must be stupid, why dont they update the KK ones to L ? they can sell them for more.
Hello,
i have bought a PX5 Android 8 radio at Ice Box Auto in UK.
1. They dont deliver a GPS card like all other sellers do...
2. They dont give feedback for firmware updates...
Where do i get updates from Witson devices?
Regards
Clandaries said:
Hello,
i have bought a PX5 Android 8 radio at Ice Box Auto in UK.
1. They dont deliver a GPS card like all other sellers do...
2. They dont give feedback for firmware updates...
Where do i get updates from Witson devices?
Regards
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This is the contact email for witson: [email protected]
Crystal is the name of the one managing the email.
Hello did you find the update? i have also bought a Witson PX5 Android 8 radio at Ice Box Auto in UK and I`d like to see if there are some updates.
I did just get the MCU file until now. No firmware. Why ever.
Got MTCE_MX_V2.83无LOGO.rar (NO LOGO)
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Hi, sorry to hear of your issues. If you care to confirm your order number, ill check on this.
Please may i add, SD cards are given with WINCE CE units, not android. Other suppliers of these units may give an SD card with maps but if you try to get updates for them from the official channels then you will find, the maps are in fact fake and against trademark and bootleg legislation. For this reason, we send a link to you via your order status showing how to download free maps from googleplay. This way, you can use them without breaching any laws and can get your updates for the map through the official channel.
Also, with firmware, we can get firmware for you. All you need to do is ask.
Feel free to email us at [email protected] for them and we will be pleased to assist.
Thanks
Rob
Clandaries said:
Hello,
i have bought a PX5 Android 8 radio at Ice Box Auto in UK.
1. They dont deliver a GPS card like all other sellers do...
2. They dont give feedback for firmware updates...
Where do i get updates from Witson devices?
Regards
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Clandaries said:
I did just get the MCU file until now. No firmware. Why ever.
Got MTCE_MX_V2.83无LOGO.rar (NO LOGO)
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Do you have the s200 wxxx series from witson?
Zaagfluit said:
Do you have the s200 wxxx series from witson?
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Hi, are you referring to models or S200 or Firmware?
ICEBOXAUTO said:
Hi, are you referring to models or S200 or Firmware?
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I was referring to the headunit, i was wondering if the firmware (mcu) he received was for the witson s200 series. I am looking for an update so my steeringwheel controls will work with the built in zlink carplay app.
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Hi, are you referring to models or S200 or Firmware?
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I was wondering, since you are a reseller. Did you receive apk updates from zjinnova (zlink app) Or witson yet? All i got was a fake update (same firmware i already had)
Zaagfluit said:
I was wondering, since you are a reseller. Did you receive apk updates from zjinnova (zlink app) Or witson yet? All i got was a fake update (same firmware i already had)
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@ICEBOXAUTO won't help you unless you bought your unit from them...which to be fair to them is reasonable. Besides, I think that they are just as dependent on Witson as we are. Maybe they get more of a response because they sell more but I can assure you that their units are just as buggy as every other WITSON S200 unit out there.
We really are reliant on WITSON listening to our hundreds of emails and putting a bit of effort in to fix the bugs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/3833?query=witson MTCD
Witson, Icebox others are resellers and not manufacturers. MX is the manufacturer.
Use MTCD [MX] MCU updates and any MTCD android ROM. Note at least one user has noted that GS MCU updates are compatible with MX.
You'll find a wealth of information on these forums extensively discussing this, you'll find all you need with a little effort...
marchnz said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/3833?query=witson MTCD
Witson, Icebox others are resellers and not manufacturers. MX is the manufacturer.
Use MTCD [MX] MCU updates and any MTCD android ROM. Note at least one user has noted that GS MCU updates are compatible with MX.
You'll find a wealth of information on these forums extensively discussing this, you'll find all you need with a little effort...
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The Latest units from Witson, the s200 series are aparently FYT based, not MTCD. A relatively new system, no roms, updates ect. yet.
marchnz said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/3833?query=witson MTCD
Witson, Icebox others are resellers and not manufacturers. MX is the manufacturer.
Use MTCD [MX] MCU updates and any MTCD android ROM. Note at least one user has noted that GS MCU updates are compatible with MX.
You'll find a wealth of information on these forums extensively discussing this, you'll find all you need with a little effort...
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Icebox is not a manufacturer which is why I mentioned that they may have more sway with Witson than we do. Witson may not manufacture the SoM but they do produce the motherboard. It seems like there is a company that produces white label SoM and MCU reference designs (which include a white label Android build and MCU firmware) and then Witson integrates both onto a motherboard and then packages that all into a plastic enclosure that suits the car that they are selling for. It also seems as if Witson produce their own custom Android 8 build for their units which is based on the white label design with minor customization implemented by them. The key is that it would be nice for Witson to stay up to date with the fixes implemented in the white label build or to implement fixes into their own builds.
Re MTC this is not an MTC based unit so little to none of the previous theory/firmware applies.
looxonline said:
@ICEBOXAUTO won't help you unless you bought your unit from them...which to be fair to them is reasonable. Besides, I think that they are just as dependent on Witson as we are. Maybe they get more of a response because they sell more but I can assure you that their units are just as buggy as every other WITSON S200 unit out there.
We really are reliant on WITSON listening to our hundreds of emails and putting a bit of effort in to fix the bugs.
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Hi there, its not actually Witson who make the S200. Its Roadnav/Winca so maybe best joining their forums for generic advice from the manufacturers themselves
ICEBOXAUTO said:
Hi there, its not actually Witson who make the S200. Its Roadnav/Winca so maybe best joining their forums for generic advice from the manufacturers themselves
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Thanks for the tip. Been scanning around those forums too but there are just people complaining about the quality of the S200 units. Seems that they rushed them out too early and have not taken note of the backlash yet. Will make a few posts to try and raise the issues on the radar.
I got a mail from Witson advertising with witson px5 hardware running android 9. https://www.witson.com/displayproduct.html?id=2669830778766784 It would be awesome if current s200 users could update to this version. I will contact them and ask if this is possible and post my findings here.
You can buy core board with PX5 and Android 9.0.
But why spend 100 Dollar/Euro for something you already have?
It is already possible to upgrade to Android 9.0 we just need a more stable version.
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Clandaries said:
You can buy core board with PX5 and Android 9.0.
But why spend 100 Dollar/Euro for something you already have?
It is already possible to upgrade to Android 9.0 we just need a more stable version.
Regards
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Since Witson is selling the same hardware as before running android 9, it could mean there is a factory update.
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Since Witson is selling the same hardware as before running android 9, it could mean there is a factory update.
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I asked days ago, but they say it is not possible to update
I think they are lying.
They hope to sell new hardware And an upgrade to PX6 and Android 9.0 will not be possible.
But i hope there will be a core board for the PX5 hardware.
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Double post...
I've traded in my car and have put the PX3 chip back in the stereo so got a spare Octa-Core with 4Gb RAM and 32Gb storage going spare. £40 if anyone is interested. PM me
Picture of the PX5 board
I was asked to show a picture. This is the board
chandlerp said:
I was asked to show a picture. This is the board
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Where did you buy it so I can see the full specs?
demetry14 said:
Where did you buy it so I can see the full specs?
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I got it from Ali Express.
This is the direct link to the one I bought
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Oct...307.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1d894c4dbv1SwZ
This is now sold.
After reading mixed reviews about these things, I want to be sure they can run a custom rom, before buying. Is there anyway to tell?
I have been looking at the 8 core 64gb memory, 4gb memory from Seicane for a Chrylser 300. This one on Alibaba.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
Anyone know if this can run custom rom? or a way to find out?
You want an MTCD/E/P, MTCB units are long retired. Ask seller to tell you what the "MCU" is listed as -anything starting 'MTCD or MTCE or MTCP' is such a unit.
marchnz said:
You want an MTCD/E/P, MTCB units are long retired. Ask seller to tell you what the "MCU" is listed as -anything starting 'MTCD or MTCE or MTCP' is such a unit.
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Thank you kindly I have asked.
Is there a brand that produces good MTCX units that I can see if they have a unit?
cyberlocc said:
Thank you kindly I have asked.
Is there a brand that produces good MTCX units that I can see if they have a unit?
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They're all flawed, [GS] MCU Type (Factory) may still be sold by reseller Xtrons and [HA] MCU/Factory Type sold by Dasaita/HotAudio appear to be the better of the bad.
Thanks, they dont make one for my car. Thanks though.
I seen on 300 forums, there was a unit that keeps being suggested Thread goes back to late 17, till about now and all have had good results and units still work. So hopefully they have the right MCU.