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Possibly broken defy (from water damage!)

I might have the first defy dead from water damage from what I can find. My defy recently underwent repair for an earpiece problem, where they replaced the entire motherboard, but not the front panel, which was what they did the first time. my defy took a light, probably 10 second dip into a pool, but it ended up taking in alot of moisture from what I can tell.
I removed the battery. I tried shaking out as much water as I could, with a sort of rapid pendulum motion. The water marker on the back of the phone was and still is white. when attempting to boot the phone up (I know, my mistake), I could see water/moisture behind the glass. I removed the battery again and let it sit in some rice in a sealed ziplock bag. Moisture looked gone. The phone just booted to the M logo, and the indicator leds turned on. After a while the screen went black and I think it displayed a red led. I tried lightly blow drying it on low heat to maybe try get more moisture out and then put it back in the bag.
Now, im wondering if my defy is dead. After the quick dip in the pool, the phone still worked and showed no signs of water damage. just dried it off, and stuck it down on a table. When I came back, the phone was off. I thought nothing much of it, and tried rebooting it. this was the first time I saw the phone display the motorola as well as a bunch of leds. After my first drying attempt, it booted back up normal and the phone was functioning 100%, but i still saw moisture behind the screen, so i took the battery out.
Im not sure if my defy is salvageable. the moisture indicator is still white, but im sure there are other signs of moisture inside the phone if I tried sending it off for repair. Im going to try leave it in rice for another day or two, try to get it booted then. If not, I might have the first water damaged defy

Wait for some days or else open up the screws if you are confident with it and dont damage anything just explore something and u will find it out...........BE CONFIDENT
Check whether it boots into recovery

Wont opening the screws void the warranty? I mean, the moisture indicator is still white. I still have the send it in to motorola option.

If your warranty is ok.then go to moto service center or wait for some days till it gets dried...........Water in your screen wont dry up until u clean

If it is still operable, then its ok. Try silica gel instead of rice. Leave it room temp
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Boot IC broken because of water damage!!!!....I lost my defy!!...Its seems it l cost around 3500rs for it to fix that!!

Wet defy (how obvious)

Yo guys!
I just was on vacation and my defy fell in the swimming pool.
So i got it out and it still worked only a red led appeared. After 10 minutes the screen turned off. So i put my defy in rise but it isn't working. Now when I am back I opened my defy and put it in a dry place but when I put the battery back the screen wont start up and I am getting a red light. Still I am 100% sure the motherboard works fine because it starts up and I see the 2nd init bootloader led flashing from blue to green. So does anybody know what I should clean or look at. Otherwise i will flash a stock froyo rom and do a cash wipe/factory reset and sent it to Motorola.
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OK i got some things straight. I opened my defy and found some things.
There is no water left so no shortcuts.
The screen is working!! but the back-light isn't so i cant see **** but its boots up and if i look closely MIUI started up fine. So i guess i should buy a new screen or fix it somehow. The red light is a bug I guess of the battery. I looked a lot on the Internet for the red light and found that a lot of phones show a red led when the battery is broken or something so I will test it at a shop. I guess i cant use my warranty because my case looks awful so i will fix it my self.

Hi,
maybe check if your battery is not completely discharged accidentaly.
I have also heard that the drying process should last a day or more.

MooonWalker said:
Hi,
maybe check if your battery is not completely discharged accidentaly.
I have also heard that the drying process should last a day or more.
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Yea I know but I will wait an other day. Maybe there are just some shortcuts why the screen isn't starting up because it doesn't look damaged at all.

It look like the device is partially damaged when it decided to jump into the pool..
You should had immediately pull out the battery and check throughout of water getting in the device, and let it dry first before your attempting to reboot it.
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farsight73 said:
It look like the device is partially damaged when it decided to jump into the pool..
You should had immediately pull out the battery and check throughout of water getting in the device, and let it dry first before your attempting to reboot it.
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Funny thing is I did. It was dry but after some minutes vapor appeared between the screen and the screen case. then the same vapor appeared by the camera and ... screen turns off.

michka said:
Funny thing is I did. It was dry but after some minutes vapor appeared between the screen and the screen case. then the same vapor appeared by the camera and ... screen turns off.
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Officially (according to IP67) the defy is water resistant up to 1 meteres do not know how deep the pool was? If you do not have warranty anymore you could open it up and let it dry in seperate parts. But if there is vapour under the screen and camera lens i'm affraid more damage is done....

gommers1978 said:
Officially (according to IP67) the defy is water resistant up to 1 meteres do not know how deep the pool was? If you do not have warranty anymore you could open it up and let it dry in seperate parts. But if there is vapour under the screen and camera lens i'm affraid more damage is done....
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I think so to.. I have the warranty maybe motorola can fix something for me.

let us know how it goes, im curious how will they respond ^^ and good luck!

OK i got some things straight. I opened my defy and found some things.
There is no water left so no shortcuts.
The screen is working!! but the back-light isn't so i cant see **** but its boots up and if i look closely MIUI started up fine. So i guess i should buy a new screen or fix it somehow. The red light is a bug I guess of the battery. I looked a lot on the Internet for the red light and found that a lot of phones show a red led when the battery is broken or something so I will test it at a shop. I guess i cant use my warranty because my case looks awful so i will fix it my self.

I did it...
Today i took my defy for a little swim, took it under no more than 10 inches of water, pool, while recording a video to see how it goes, when i got it out after 40 secs, the pone kept recording but when i touch to stop recording the phone started vibrating like if i was pressing any of buttons (home, menu, back and search) and then froze i got scared so i pulled the battery and check for water, but i saw that the lens got moisture so i quickly took it to a bowl with uncook rice and left it there for 3 hours. i then checked it and all the moisture was gone.
When i turned it on it booted like if it didn't had any OS so i left it alone and a while later it loaded fine, but then i noticed the moisture was back on the lens cover, took it back to a new bowl with rice, and it has been there for another 3 hours now but the moisture is showing in te screen also.
What do you guys recomend me to do?
Does the waranty should cover any damage?
P.S: sorry for such a long "Answer" to the thread, but i'm worried and didn't want to spam by opening a new one.
HELP

what i did
my defy got wet, no sceen
1. i remove the battery
2. letting it open
3. put it in my desktop where the hot air is coming out
4. i waited for about an hour
great its back
Take note. if your defy is already old, dont deep it in water

d3athr0w said:
my defy got wet, no sceen
1. i remove the battery
2. letting it open
3. put it in my desktop where the hot air is coming out
4. i waited for about an hour
great its back
Take note. if your defy is already old, dont deep it in water
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Or use rice
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ppero196 said:
Or use rice
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mine allso got wet, and seems that now work's fine but it has no backlight to the lcd and to the soft keys. anybody solved this problem? thx!

ppero196 said:
Or use rice
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Don't thing Rice is going to do more then a paper towel... It doesn't suck any liquid out of gaps or anything. You can try the little ball's that come with clothing. They suck the water out the air so that the water in the phone can vaporize in the air.
But the one's that come with the things you buy will most likely already be saturated.
The best way is to use rubbing alcohol (as high percentage as possible). The alcohol displaces the water but does vaporizes is normal conditions. So you can just submerge your phone in alcohol (with no battery, sim and sd-card ofc. and best only the logic board) and let it dry for some time. This before you try to put it on. This also cleans out most of the salt and sand as this damages you board over time.

Want to help me resuscitate a drowned oneplus 3?

I took my oneplus 3 for a brief swim. I blame new fatherhood. It inhaled a lot of water. I turned it off, dried it, and put it in rice for a couple days. Soon after turning it off, it started getting hot. I'm guessing something important is dead. I'd like to go through the process of fixing it. I have to replace the rear camera which stopped focusing anyway.
Here's where I'm at now.
1. The battery charges.
2. The screen works.
3. It boots up in developer mode or whatever the volume button down + power is.
4. Phone won't boot into OS.
My plan from this point forward:
1. Open up phone and inspect.
2. Clean components.
3. Test with pc and go through unbrick guide.
4. Order and replace broken parts.
Questions:
1. Is there a diagnostic I could run to figure out what is broken?
2. If I'm replacing something major, would it be fairly straightforward and worth the effort to replace the internal components with 3T components?
3. Anything else I should keep in mind or any thoughts on what is likely wrong with the phone?

I guess by letting it dry and then turn it on again you killed something in your phone.
Water has always a bit salt and minerals in it and once the phone these minerals are still left and can cause various short circuits.
I know its too late now, but what you should have done is turning the phone down after the accident and then wash it out with destilled water to wash out the minerals and after that let it dry.
For example blackboxes of crashed planes are left in a box with salty water and then it gets replaced more and more with destilled water.
I'd recommend you to visit a phone fixing shop. Finding the problem by yourself will be pretty tricky without the right tools.

MarcTremonti said:
I guess by letting it dry and then turn it on again you killed something in your phone.
Water has always a bit salt and minerals in it and once the phone these minerals are still left and can cause various short circuits.
I know its too late now, but what you should have done is turning the phone down after the accident and then wash it out with destilled water to wash out the minerals and after that let it dry.
For example blackboxes of crashed planes are left in a box with salty water and then it gets replaced more and more with destilled water.
I'd recommend you to visit a phone fixing shop. Finding the problem by yourself will be pretty tricky without the right tools.
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Thanks. That makes sense. My suspicion is still that the damage occurred prior to turning the phone off, as the off phone kept heating up as if something was causing a massive battery drain. This will be helpful next time. Ugh, next time. There better not be a next time.
As I've yet to start taking the phone apart, I'm still pretty determined to troubleshoot it myself as much as I can. So any other suggestions people have would be appreciated. I've been quite unimpressed with the techs around here...

A50 "battery is overheating, charging stopped" issue

Hello folks,
My phone is A505F/DS
It got very little water / chlorhexidine? (COVID-19 fact ) inside the charging port.
After that it just shutdown by itself. I tried to charge . It got "overheated" sign and it won't even start.
So, dug abit over youtube and decided to wash off the type c port with IPA(isopropyl alcohol) , but it is literally impossible to find it now-a-days (again COVID-19 fact) . Also i am in complete lockdown on my side of the country.
So, having no other options in my hand, i brushed the port with plain water and my toothbrush !!!!lol!!!!!!!! and to my utter surprise, it started and working 95% ok. But, now i am having one issue. Randomly, when i charge or do nothing but surf internet or YouTube , it can rarely notify " device overheating.. bla ... bla..bla" .
So i installed couple of temp monitoring apps and observed, this phone has only one temperature sensor? Called "battery temp ". Whenever it reaches 50°c it stops battery charging (obviously lipo safe operating temp range's upper limit is around 50°c). And when it goes around 59°c level it stops all phone functions apart from emergency call .
Now, what i need help about, is it possible to change the threshold level of cutting of the charging of the battery to 53°c around? Coz i have seen that even if the device is like of room temperature the "battery temp" hangs around 50-52°c and suddenly goes back to normal.
Plz help. In this lockdown, this little digital entertainment device is what i am passing my most time with And trying to get a living in this tough times.

Turn off fast charging if you updated to Android 10 (it's new feature in OneUI 2.0), also try to not use phone when it's charging.

Ok. But i am still on android 9

Ok . Not using while charging is helping i guess.
I will report back if anything happens

You cant fix this peoblem just by ignoring the high temperatures, its obviously a hardware issue and you made it worse by using water to clean the charging port. Water is very corrosive to electronics and may create shorts. You phone probably need to be desassembled and properly cleaned with isopropyl alcohol. Some components may need to be replaced(i hope no). Its imo dangerous to continu using it as it is

yamen_tn said:
You cant fix this peoblem just by ignoring the high temperatures, its obviously a hardware issue and you made it worse by using water to clean the charging port. Water is very corrosive to electronics and may create shorts. You phone probably need to be desassembled and properly cleaned with isopropyl alcohol. Some components may need to be replaced(i hope no). Its imo dangerous to continu using it as it is
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as i am in lockdown i cant get my hands on IPA.
I cant even open the phone. Any tutorial to open it by simple tools?

[Update] today i was just surfing the internet, and the temperature suddenly shoot up to 62°c but the device on hand was cool enough to consider the temperature reading false . And suddenly it went back to 44. Again up to 55.... etc etc. I kept the phone @ Refrigerator for a min . And for last 8 hrs its fine... weird lol

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[Update] today i was just surfing the internet, and the temperature suddenly shoot up to 62°c but the device on hand was cool enough to consider the temperature reading false . And suddenly it went back to 44. Again up to 55.... etc etc. I kept the phone @ Refrigerator for a min . And for last 8 hrs its fine... weird lol
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Most probably your temperature sensor is giving wrong details to OS.

rahuldgreat said:
Most probably your temperature sensor is giving wrong details to OS.
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Yeah . Right?
Again today it randomly shot upto 63°c. Like from 45°c . It was jumping around like crazy for about 15 minutes.... now again normal.
I don't know what to do

Quick update.
Almost a month no problem faced
What i did..
1. Turned off fast charging (i think this is the most important thing to do)
2. Not using the phone while charging
3. Keep the phone @floor while charging( keeps it cool i guess?)

I kept it away for 2 days wrapped i tissue paper untouched and it seemed to be back to normal.(so far its been 3 2 days since the problem stopped happening)

My phone like your phone break and say over hearting error
Just gooing to your guaranty service this error for hardware problem

Any update on your phone temperature? Is it going back to normal?

I just had this same exact problem with my a50. I asked Google before I bought it if the A50 was water resistant and found 4 sites that said yes. Turns out it isn't and I cleaned the phone after shopping in lockdown and it started malfunctioning. I just successfully fixed it last night by watching a YouTube video that shows disassembly and then removing very small units from the charging port sub board. You only need a 00 Phillips screwdriver, a piece of plastic water bottle and tweezers or xacto blade. It shows how to remove the malfunctioning thermistor

Replace the charging PCB to fix the issue
In most cases, you need to replace the charging board to fix the issue. There is no other way to get rid of that problem:

Could you share the link to the video clip? Thanks

https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View...ge+or+turn+on+-+Overheating+icon#answer649037
This is what I did to fix mine. Removed those 3 components that @Gspain2020 was talking about. I used a soldering iron and a needle, but tweezers or an exacto knife will probably be better. Or you could get a new charging daughterboard which should also fix the problem.
If you remove those components, the phone will be unable to detect the temperature, which can be dangerous if you allow it to overheat. Instead of the phone managing the temperature, you must stop using it if it gets too hot.

Question Z fold 3 won't charge

So sitting in my hot tub switching songs and I turn to look at something and dipped the very bottom portion of the phone in the water the outside screen turned green and turned off I put it in rice for 3 days the outside screen does not turn on anymore but the inside screen did.. and now will not hold a charge and the battery has died.. it says it's too cold and needs to cool down before it can charge. are there any remedies for this? I'd like to get the rest of the stuff off the phone or get it fixed

Power down and do not restart or attempt to charge.
The battery should be disconnected asap.
It needs to have the cover(s) pulled and dried out first.
Rice is useless. Tik-tok, time is not a luxury you have. Corrosion never sleeps.

blackhawk said:
Power down and do not restart or attempt to charge.
The battery should be disconnected asap.
It needs to have the cover(s) pulled and dried out first.
Rice is useless. Tik-tok, time is not a luxury you have. Corrosion never sleeps.
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This actually happened a couple of weeks ago.. and I don't know how to pull the covers

If the water is outside on the port it wouldn't be a problem but it's internal (display failed). Get it looked at soon.
If you never removed the cover(s) before now may not be the time to learn. If salt or brine water got into it it's already dead, fresh water may be salvageable.

blackhawk said:
If the water is outside on the port it wouldn't be a problem but it's internal (display failed). Get it looked at soon.
If you never removed the cover(s) before now may not be the time to learn. If salt or brine water got into it it's already dead, fresh water may be salvageable.
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blackhawk said:
If the water is outside on the port it wouldn't be a problem but it's internal (display failed). Get it looked at soon.
If you never removed the cover(s) before now may not be the time to learn. If salt or brine water got into it it's already dead, fresh water may be salvageable.
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It's hot tub water which is soft water but these things are supposed to be water resistant

danbear7777 said:
It's hot tub water which is soft water but these things are supposed to be water resistant
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Obviously not. Regardless of their IP rating I always assume my N10+'s are not safe to water exposure.

Try using a hair dryer with the cool air setting to blow the Type-C port for a while. Then try again. If that doesn't work then try a different cable

iceepyon said:
Try using a hair dryer with the cool air setting to blow the Type-C port for a while. Then try again. If that doesn't work then try a different cable
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The display was effected meaning the water is inside. Trying to power it on will only do more damage.