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Overheating solution ! Worked for me.

Well almost all HTC desire devices have an overheating problem causing them to reboot every time we use them.
Well I tried something that actually worked!
You need to have the required skills in order to do this
You need :
1:a clean soft brush(tooth brush recommended)
2:Tools to disassemble the HTC desire
3isassembly manual
4:Electric contact cleaner
Procedure :
1: Disassembly your HTC desire and just unplug only the mainboard and the upper board (that includes the camera)
2: CAREFULLY open the metallic box located to the main board (the one that is under the display and has the CPU inside)
3: use the electric contact cleaner and spray everything inside that box
4: CAREFULLY use the tooth brush to clean it from inside by making soft movements !!
5: wait for 5 minutes for the electric contact cleaner dissapears
6: Do the same in the camera mainboard but don't open anyone metallic box , just from the top
7: Start assembling the HTC desire
8: Test it and write down if it worked
Note : a friend of mine told me that you don't have to open the metallic box that protects the CPU,just use the electric cleaner and be sure that you have sprayed everything ! And this guide is tested on 4 HTC desires with the same problem all of them 100% success !
WARNING: USE THIS GUIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK ! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY KIND OF DAMAGE!
I personally tested it as I said on 4 HTC desires and it worked !
Just test it and write it.I was looking for 1 year how to solve this problem and I believe I found the solution.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Screenshots on how to do it will come soon
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Hello,
This is the thread I was looking for since I got one HTC Desire with the message “repair it and take it, or throw it into trash”. Luckily for me, that was only few weeks ago, therefore I didn't suffered like other proud Desire owners.
I can power-on the phone but it will stuck on HTC logo or it will do reset loop (several times) finishing with 7 vibrations and HTC logo.
It was failing on RUU updates because of radio; then I decided to freeze phone (only device without battery, sd card and sim). After that, I was able to update the phone...freeze it again, s-off it...freeze it again...flash it with custom rom...freeze it....etc.
I was planning to apply some thermal compound inside and maybe cut some pieces for better airflow but Your solution seems great.
Is there any news about those 4 repaired phones? Are they still alive and performing well?

short update:
mine doesn't work after the procedure from first post.
however, it will still come alive (for the short time) after freezing. :/

Interesting post. is overheating a common problem on the desire?
My phone seems to crash every so often and sometimes gets really bad and doesnt wanna start up as mentioned above so am thinking whether its a overheating issue rather than software/hardware

sol01 said:
Interesting post. is overheating a common problem on the desire?
My phone seems to crash every so often and sometimes gets really bad and doesnt wanna start up as mentioned above so am thinking whether its a overheating issue rather than software/hardware
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When your phone doesn't want to boot, put it in the freezer for 5 minutes. If it then boots normally, it's an overheating issue.

approve - this works, btw if anyone have any another questions then ask

Worked for me.. Problem Solved. Thankyou

Screenshots
nikosdd said:
Screenshots on how to do it will come soon
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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Are these screenshots likely to appear anytime soon? thanks:fingers-crossed:

any pictures yet?

box ????
"CAREFULLY open the metallic box located to the main board
(the one that is under the display and has the CPU inside)"
I have disassembled the phone. There is a metal box on the back of the main board (directly behind the
sim card and sd cards slots) though it appears to be completely sealed. I do not see how it could be opened
and/or how the contact cleaner can get in to do anything.
I am missing something ? Anyone ?
thanks and best regards
neddy

I did this last night, and same result... the phone keep restarting... its 100% a overheat problem cause here are +2°C and when i operate the phone outside , is working without any problem, but when im in the house at +25 the phone start acting weird...(restarting)...
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sorry for double post but just want to add that something... the second time i opened the phone, ive put some thermal paste (processor paste ) on top of black cip's, but same result... the phone keep restarting... other ideas???

I tried this
and had no luck. I think it may be absolute tosh. we were promised photos of the procedure...
we are still waiting for them

Not working for me too... bad news problem not solved - we need new motherboard... i will sale the phone for spare parts....

When I read the titel of the postig i feel so lucky but as i read the rest of the postings...
The desire is such a great phone but the heat problem su**s.
Hope someone will find a sollution that works for all of us.

Guys im really sorry for not posting screenshots but my HTC Desire died a few weeks ago(water xD) and im not an owner.. But 5 phones that i have repaired them with this way are working perfectly!

-zox- said:
Hello,
This is the thread I was looking for since I got one HTC Desire with the message “repair it and take it, or throw it into trash”. Luckily for me, that was only few weeks ago, therefore I didn't suffered like other proud Desire owners.
I can power-on the phone but it will stuck on HTC logo or it will do reset loop (several times) finishing with 7 vibrations and HTC logo.
It was failing on RUU updates because of radio; then I decided to freeze phone (only device without battery, sd card and sim). After that, I was able to update the phone...freeze it again, s-off it...freeze it again...flash it with custom rom...freeze it....etc.
I was planning to apply some thermal compound inside and maybe cut some pieces for better airflow but Your solution seems great.
Is there any news about those 4 repaired phones? Are they still alive and performing well?
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I totally disagree with your opinion to apply thermal compound and cut some pieces. Thermal compound works for pc and in case you apply this,think that the hot will still remain inside and maybe get worse.Also cutting pieces will result for your phone to fail,cause all this are made to protect all those that they include

other solution
For users that are EXPERIMENTAL ONLY! you can try this
Follow all the steps in post #1 but when you reach to the cpu chipset,use a heat gun for about 30 second with distance up to 10cm(maybe more).Do whatever is needed to be sure that heat will not touch the other chipsets. This solution have 40-60% Success- Failure. In case of failure, (I DONT HAVE RESPONSIBILITY!) the phone will be dead for ever. If you have free time and this phone for test then do it otherwise better not
Also i will try to find an HTC Desire to take screenshots ...

pacattosul said:
I did this last night, and same result... the phone keep restarting... its 100% a overheat problem cause here are +2°C and when i operate the phone outside , is working without any problem, but when im in the house at +25 the phone start acting weird...(restarting)...
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I can confirm this. With environmental temperatures below +18°C my phone works perfectly.

Mine's never had a overheat problem.... Anyway, thanks if it ever becomes a problem for me.
Swyped from my P3110 running SlimKat from the XDA Premium HD app!

Nexus 5x boot loop issues shoud i be worried that mine will do the same ?

Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .

just yesterday happened to mine!

Did you try to fix it or got it refunded under warranty ? Also rooted or stock with update ?

Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.

It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.

sfhub said:
It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.
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If you said "It is solder not weld." for me, thanks i didn't know the correct word, english is not my native language (I only learn reading on forums), so i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.

same question how to know if my phone will bootloop...i have my nexus 5x 5 week ago but i bay it not new i bay it used...i upgrade to android nougat no issus right now..ho to know if i will have a probleme in the future iam afraid now

moonlightdrive said:
i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.
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I've been dealing with substandard solder since xbox RROD (red ring of death) where everyone was trying to get their xbox cpu reballed until microsoft admitted the problem.
As I mentioned, I'm sure the incident on 5x is much higher than normal phones, but that might still be a low % (even though it is a relatively high absolute # because of the # of phones that are sold)
I have no idea whether 5x is worse, better, or same as G4 problem. G4 seemed even higher, but could be because more phones were sold. Only LG knows for sure.
A lot of folks in US are finding that their credit card actually extends their warranty beyond manufacturers warranty and people will probably get their money back that way if all else fails.
Of course that doesn't help you if you are traveling and the phone dies. I end up using Google Fi as the service provider for this phone, so if that happened I could just shift all the calls and texts to another phone or tablet and keep going until I get a replacement phone, so I'm not super worried.
I regularly back up the stuff on my phone so the most I would lose is like 1 or 2 days of stuff, which I can deal with.
Personally I wouldn't be super worried this is going to happen to you, but be prepared with backups in case it does, but that is good practice for any phone, because it could always get stolen or drop and break.

Tarbruh said:
Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .
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I got my 5X a month ago.... I figure it has a 1 yr warranty so I am not too worried yet.... Lets hope if it happens it does it in the next 11 months

please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me

znayver said:
please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me
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Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .

moonlightdrive said:
Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.
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Well I think i have the same point of view to sell the phone working rather that having a paper holder . At least for me its the most logical thing to do maybe the chance isn't high for it to happen but I am not secure with a tought that my phone could die + im a heavy user so i migh make it to the boot loop faster .

Tarbruh said:
Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .
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oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??

znayver said:
oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??
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Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !

Tarbruh said:
Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !
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tnx for your reponse my friend

znayver said:
tnx for your reponse my friend
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No worries , best of luck

Urgent help

My Moms lg g4 is doing a bootloop and would not turn on and i did some research that the motherboard needs to be replaced.
My Nephew just passed away 2 days ago ( only 5 years old ) and all his pictures were on her phone and his funeral is on friday is there a possibility to retrieve these pictures? i can pay anyone that can help. Thanks

I'm very sorry for your loss
I haven't tried this myself (i just sent mine to LG, regardless of potential data loss), but when mine bootlooped I came across some things that I dug up for you, maybe it helps.
First of all, the possibility to "disable big cores" and make the bootlooped phone able to boot up again (and hopefully recover your data!)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/45gfg2/dae_g4_series_msm_big_core_disable_tool_guide/
Alternatively, disassemble the phone and "treat" the chip with hair-dryer/hot-air-gun to "resolder" loose connections . . .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-bootloop-fix-how-unbricked-video-t3499665
Some ppl even managed to get it working for a short amount of time by putting it in the freezer
That's all I know, wish you best of luck!

Thank you so much for the info. ill try them tonight.
blake_spector said:
I'm very sorry for your loss
I haven't tried this myself (i just sent mine to LG, regardless of potential data loss), but when mine bootlooped I came across some things that I dug up for you, maybe it helps.
First of all, the possibility to "disable big cores" and make the bootlooped phone able to boot up again (and hopefully recover your data!)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/45gfg2/dae_g4_series_msm_big_core_disable_tool_guide/
Alternatively, disassemble the phone and "treat" the chip with hair-dryer/hot-air-gun to "resolder" loose connections . . .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-bootloop-fix-how-unbricked-video-t3499665
Some ppl even managed to get it working for a short amount of time by putting it in the freezer
That's all I know, wish you best of luck!
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sofia-captivate said:
Thank you so much for the info. ill try them tonight.
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wow thats sad dorry for your loss.
i suggest the freezer method. search for it here and see wich one you want to do.

Try the fridge it make your LG alive for 10-15 minutes then copy your photos
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Phone is stuck in something like a bootloop

Hey guys,
I'm having some serious trouble with my LG G3... I'm running the latest update for stock and now all of a sudden I'm stuck in something like a bootloop.
Sometimes it reaches the SIM PIN screen and then reboots, but most of the time it doesn't even make it there.
The last time I got to the PIN screen I could record a log (the last part of it is attached).
Can anyone see what's wrong from the log?
Ah, btw I have TWRP installed.
Best regards,
Arma

Hi there,
Same issue here, hope to find an answer!

I returned to stock and the problem still exists.

How old is the phone?
Did the bootloop occur out of nothing, or was it right after you updated?

engmia said:
How old is the phone?
Did the bootloop occur out of nothing, or was it right after you updated?
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It started as a reboot only when I opened google maps and then at some point it restarted constantly.
I had the system running for quite a while. The phone is now about 9 months old.

armagaddon said:
It started as a reboot only when I opened google maps and then at some point it restarted constantly.
I had the system running for quite a while. The phone is now about 9 months old.
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Did you get it new or second hand?
It's quite possible that unfortunately you got the bootloop issue that's caused by overheating the motherboard.
There are fix guides around the forum, you should add a thermal pad to the SoC chip.

engmia said:
Did you get it new or second hand?
It's quite possible that unfortunately you got the bootloop issue that's caused by overheating the motherboard.
There are fix guides around the forum, you should add a thermal pad to the SoC chip.
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It was new, but overheating sounds possible because it got quite hot many times without any reason.

armagaddon said:
It was new, but overheating sounds possible because it got quite hot many times without any reason.
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Well maybe the phone was refurbished or you were really unlucky. Maybe the issue is somewhere else, but this bootlooping is quite common with the G3 and some other LG phones (just look at the threads around the forum) and it's a hardware issue. It has the symptoms just like the ones you're describing, so I'm fairly certain that's the problem.

Try another battery. Use geniune battery.
And if did no help then heat soc with hair drier and add thermal pad or somthing thin from metal.

hello,
I had this problem in the past, you could fix it with a hairdrayer and a thermal pad. After that, install a linageos ( because it's lite and much rapid than stock), then downclock your CPU to 1 GHz and your GPU to 200 MHz.
This should fix your problem for a while ( 2 to 3 weaks ) and repet the same manipulations until the smartphone dies.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/ill-buy-lg-smartphones-t3524127
I suggest to launch a boycott campaign against LG,
Because they know that their smartphones have this problem but they sell them even as. I lost 200$ on a g3 and 450 on a V20 !

serious .hlp

Guys in my op3 ..my headphone jack n earpiece works after rebooting ..n maximumtim didn't work ..what too do ..I have not rooted n anything else ..4.1.7 is my oxygen os .biuld ..hlpppppp

Maximumtim?
If you want help invest a little bit effort to write understandable...

MarcTremonti said:
Maximumtim?
If you want help invest a little bit effort to write understandable...
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I mean maximum time .. Rest is understandable ..plzz hlpp .how to downgrade

shunil.scorpio01 said:
Guys in my op3 ..my headphone jack n earpiece works after rebooting ..n maximumtim didn't work ..what too do ..I have not rooted n anything else ..4.1.7 is my oxygen os .biuld ..hlpppppp
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You can not go on creating different threads with different headings for the same issue. It is against XDA rules.
And write in proper understandable English. You have the time to input six 'p's in 'help' but don't have the time for one 'e'? This is not Whatsapp or Twitter.

shunil.scorpio01 said:
I mean maximum time .. Rest is understandable ..plzz hlpp .how to downgrade
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Ill be blunt and honest with you. Send it in for repair. Do not try messing with your device. You cant even put together an understandable post or follow the rules of the site you joined. As an example you have not even run a logcat (troubleshooting 101) which would tell you if it is software or hardware. As I have a feeling it is hardware, I dont not have confidence that would would be able to do the minor repair that would be needed without destroying the device. So just send it in.

zelendel said:
Ill be blunt and honest with you. Send it in for repair. Do not try messing with your device. You cant even put together an understandable post or follow the rules of the site you joined. As an example you have not even run a logcat (troubleshooting 101) which would tell you if it is software or hardware. As I have a feeling it is hardware, I dont not have confidence that would would be able to do the minor repair that would be needed without destroying the device. So just send it in.
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Also can relate to this I just replaced my camera (focusing issue) The device is a pain in the A$$ to open without spending $$$ on tools not worth the risk of damaging the device (which I did :laugh Phone needs a lot of heat and persuasion to open If you've never opened a metal Unibody device before I wouldn't recommend it. Just contact OP and get it sent off depending on where you live you'll get it back in no time perfect and without voiding the warranty :good: