DSP units from AndroidAutoShop.com - MTCD Android Head Units General

Anyone have any experience with DSP units?
https://androidautoshop.com/search?controller=search&s=dsp
Someone else posted a promo code for this site here on this forum but i cannot for the life of me find it again

There are some users on the dutch tweakers.net forum that have ordered the DSP units. However, there seems to be some shipping delay.
They will post their experiences, but probably in dutch. I will relay their findings here.

DSP units? You mean they have an integrated DSP.... like the Xtrons units do. In fact, those units on that site look identical to the Xtrons ones.

maybe they are...
http://wiki.androidautoshop.com/categories/6174-software-updates
look @ the download links

So you're paying a premium for the letters DSP.

skezza said:
So you're paying a premium for the letters DSP.
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From what i understand its an actual onboard chip that gives higher volume and more control of the soundchip.
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Jedimindtriks said:
From what i understand its an actual onboard chip that gives higher volume and more control of the soundchip.
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Yeah of course
You're aware that the photo you attached has almost 100% of the exact same functionality as the current PX5 Xtrons/Eonon/etc, with the only difference being it's skinned up differently.
"Step right up folks, I have for you 100% pure snake oil bull****"
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I'll stick a fiver on now, that if you could grab the APK of that EQ, it would run on any other PX5 device. Easiest money I'll ever win.

Slow down with the attitude buddy. we are just trying to figure it out here
Just got this from a dev over at another forum.
EDIT* Looks like you owe me a fiver lol.

Jedimindtriks said:
Slow down with the attitude buddy. we are just trying to figure it out here
Just got this from a dev over at another forum.
EDIT* Looks like you owe me a fiver lol.
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hi make sure you check the sub channel on that radio. I have a dsp radio there is no sound coming from the sub channel

Jedimindtriks said:
Slow down with the attitude buddy. we are just trying to figure it out here
Just got this from a dev over at another forum.
EDIT* Looks like you owe me a fiver lol.
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http://xtrons.co.uk/dta707pl-7-hd-d...d-core-16gb-2gb-ddr3-ram-hdmi-car-stereo.html
Once again, not remotely convinced by the snake oil on that site or of the photo above.
Your suggestion is that the PX5 Xtrons and similar units don't have a DSP. They clearly do. The one above definitely has a dedicated DSP (which I was merely using to backup up my earlier point). The others have DSP's built into the chipset, rather than a dedicated DSP board. You understand this right? That is clearly the case otherwise you wouldn't be afforded the control you get. 10 band EQ which can be extended to 15 and quite a lot of customisation of the amplifier. You're also aware that you can own the biggest DSP dong on the planet..... but if your amplifier is ****, your sound will be ****. Joying have been using crappy amp chips for ages hence they sound garbage even with Viper4Audio. Finally Xtrons, Eonon and the like are using the tda7851 which is a much improved chipset and provides clear, surprisingly crisp audio. I've had people comment on the quality of audio in my car, it blows the OEM radio away and that was a BMW Professional which isn't their base unit.
The original MTCB units had no DSP at all and their amps were limited, so they had some simple software EQ'y rubbish that did bass mids treble. This carries over from the old WinCE units too. The newer PX5 and probably PX3 units have DSP's and better amplifiers. Once again, what you are talking about is a dedicated DSP and quite frankly, I'm still not convinced it isn't snake oil. You'll get a few extra tweaky options that'll provide minimal improvement.
Its your money though. If you're an audiophile mate, stop pissing around with these units altogether. Go and spend a good grand on audio equipment for your car because that's what it takes to get top quality audio. Simples

hi I have a 10.1 android 8.0 with DSP px5 which on sound is coming from the sub channel can any one help me with this problem

wboops said:
hi I have a 10.1 android 8.0 with DSP px5 which on sound is coming from the sub channel can any one help me with this problem
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is it connected directly to speakers? or is it connected to an AMP for speakers and sub?

Jedimindtriks said:
Slow down with the attitude buddy. we are just trying to figure it out here
Just got this from a dev over at another forum.
EDIT* Looks like you owe me a fiver lol.
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Interesting! Looks like an add on board! Wondering if we can buy that separately!
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Jedimindtriks said:
Anyone have any experience with DSP units?
https://androidautoshop.com/search?controller=search&s=dsp
Someone else posted a promo code for this site here on this forum but i cannot for the life of me find it again
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Promo code: VRTYJTH7

bogdi1988 said:
Interesting! Looks like an add on board! Wondering if we can buy that separately!
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Promo code: VRTYJTH7
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Imagine the work soldering that thing on the mainboard

Jedimindtriks said:
Imagine the work soldering that thing on the mainboard
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Looks like it drops in with connection pins, and only 40 (2 rows of 20) solder joints. Pretty easy actually...

Discount is 25 euros, so the total cost is about £70 more than the current line of Xtrons. I'm keen to hear a comparison between a built-in DSP vs these dedicated DSP's. Until then, I'm reserving judgement.

skezza said:
Discount is 25 euros, so the total cost is about £70 more than the current line of Xtrons. I'm keen to hear a comparison between a built-in DSP vs these dedicated DSP's. Until then, I'm reserving judgement.
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Agreed! I'd like to hear the difference. I paid $200 for my unit, so the difference is a smidge bigger! HAHA

bogdi1988 said:
Agreed! I'd like to hear the difference. I paid $200 for my unit, so the difference is a smidge bigger! HAHA
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Yep. I know from my earlier posts it might sound like I'm trying to piss on their parade. That isn't what I'm trying to do at all. However, I am very black and white on this kind of ****. I don't believe in 'feels'. "It's got a DSP so it must sound better" is not evidence whatsoever. All of the units, barring a very small number, now have a built-in DSP into the chipset. This provides the granular EQ settings that are found on the Xtrons units for example and so far, matched with the TDA7851 amp chip, has been getting nothing but positive remarks. I am also able to comment on the quality of audio provided by the Xtrons unit I fitted. I'd say it beats the OEM stereo, which wasn't cheap and the levels of EQ modification allows me to far surpass it with some fairly trivial tweaks.
If they're going to do this properly, they need to compare like with like. If they compare with the MTCB units or Joying units then it's like comparing Apples with sausages. My mobile phone probably produces better audio output than those early MTCB units and the Joying's aren't that much better.
Like I said, feels mean nothing to me. I don't give a **** whether they put a sticker on that says 'DSP'. I want it to sound better. Simple.

skezza said:
Yep. I know from my earlier posts it might sound like I'm trying to piss on their parade. That isn't what I'm trying to do at all. However, I am very black and white on this kind of ****. I don't believe in 'feels'. "It's got a DSP so it must sound better" is not evidence whatsoever. All of the units, barring a very small number, now have a built-in DSP into the chipset. This provides the granular EQ settings that are found on the Xtrons units for example and so far, matched with the TDA7851 amp chip, has been getting nothing but positive remarks. I am also able to comment on the quality of audio provided by the Xtrons unit I fitted. I'd say it beats the OEM stereo, which wasn't cheap and the levels of EQ modification allows me to far surpass it with some fairly trivial tweaks.
If they're going to do this properly, they need to compare like with like. If they compare with the MTCB units or Joying units then it's like comparing Apples with sausages. My mobile phone probably produces better audio output than those early MTCB units and the Joying's aren't that much better.
Like I said, feels mean nothing to me. I don't give a **** whether they put a sticker on that says 'DSP'. I want it to sound better. Simple.
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Looking at that screenshot of the DSP app, a lot of the features look like what a Viper4 would have... I might just take the plunge and flash Magisk on mine to see how it handles Viper4

bogdi1988 said:
Looking at that screenshot of the DSP app, a lot of the features look like what a Viper4 would have... I might just take the plunge and flash Magisk on mine to see how it handles Viper4
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With the exception that obviously all of the effects are handled and processed by that DSP chip, so offsets the work from your CPU. V4A is software driven, so inevitably adds a small amount of extra work on the CPU, n a head unit though, that might be ideal because you're unlikely to be gaming or doing anything that fully hammers the CPU anyway.
I can see there are some potential benefits to a dedicated DSP, but what I want is proof that there are 'real world' benefits. If the benefits are 'feeling good' then I'd rather go and spend £70 getting drunk on a night out. So far, all I've seen are 'feels' and nothing that actually demonstrates a marked improvement.

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Decent Bluetooth USB dongle for A2DP

I'm looking for a reasonably priced, short-to-medium range Bluetooth dongle for my PC. It seems there are hundreds, nay, thousands of offerings on fleabay, Amazon, you name it.
What I've gathered is a lot of them have CSR Bluecore chipsets. Or falsely identify themselves as such. The second thing I've gathered is that lots of them are just the hardware, with no software (or include crap like BlueSoleil, or trial versions).
I want to use the device with a pair of A2DP stereo headphones, and possibly other stuff like OBEX, whatever else it might support.
I'm really in the dark here -- it looks like a crapshoot. When you Google for reviews, it's the usual drivel. When I search the forums here, there are some rather old posts (2004?!) but nothing I see that's relevant.
Does anyone have a good experience with a $20 or less Bluetooth 2.0 EDR dongle for USB? If so, please let me know! Thanks in advance.
This is the one I have. You can also look into this one.
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This is the one I have. You can also look into this one.
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Those are exactly the form factors I've been looking at. Small enough to just pop into a USB port and look integrated with the machine. Though I worry that small = less powerful = compromise.
What does it enumerates itself as, a CSR chipset? I'm assuming you got it working with A2DP okay. I looked at their product page and it says it's driverless... unless you want to use A2DP, in which case they provide a driver.
It's strange that the one withouta driver CD is more expensive -- wonder if that means it's a more capable/more expensive chipset?
The latest bluesoleil is very good. Try the trial, as I have found it gives complete functionality to the cheapest of dongles.
I would get a newer one which used broadcom software
ms is missing a lot of profiles
toshiba seems unstable
never messed with other stacks

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Close thread plz
buster041284 said:
does anybody no of any better earfones than the standard GENUINE ones that come wid the fone
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Use the search function - and also Google to help with your spelling. ;-)
mcwarre said:
Use the search function - and also Google to help with your spelling. ;-)
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why coz i didt put phones lol
buster041284 said:
why coz i didt put phones lol
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if you have an ebay account look on there buster
buster041284 said:
does anybody no of any better earfones than the standard GENUINE ones that come wid the fone
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i use customs and love them
salmanslick said:
i use customs and love them
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wats the name of them pal
buster041284 said:
wats the name of them pal
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Seriously? It's got the name right there on the blue earphone in the picture.
Although with spelling like yours I'd assume they're a bit out of your price range.
http://www.westonemusicproducts.com/products
D3_ said:
Seriously? It's got the name right there on the blue earphone in the picture.
Although with spelling like yours I'd assume they're a bit out of your price range.
http://www.westonemusicproducts.com/products
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how can you judge ones economic strength with spellings?
Stop Trolling
D3_ said:
Seriously? It's got the name right there on the blue earphone in the picture.
Although with spelling like yours I'd assume they're a bit out of your price range.
http://www.westonemusicproducts.com/products
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They were out of my price range too , please stop mocking people.
westone es5 , look up westonemusicproducts.com for more information.
D3_ said:
Seriously? It's got the name right there on the blue earphone in the picture.
Although with spelling like yours I'd assume they're a bit out of your price range.
http://www.westonemusicproducts.com/products
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The OP may or may not need spelling lessons but you surely need some manner lessons. You are rich in terms of money but very poor in manner!
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i use beats by dre tour and beats by dre pro witch i just got with my s2 there amazing but expensive the tour are ear phones the pros are dj headphones witch is a bit much to use with a s2 but its great sound if you can afford it
I have grown to like the Bose MIE2. They have gotten better in sound with break in and they are soooooo comfortable. You can easily wear these for hours. The downside is that they aren't isolated but, they are comfortable and i am willing sacrifice that. Another good pair are the Shure 215 and Klipsch s4's both good price and sound!
my original earphone sucks
the stock are good enough for me
Teknohtc said:
I have grown to like the Bose MIE2. They have gotten better in sound with break in and they are soooooo comfortable. You can easily wear these for hours. The downside is that they aren't isolated but, they are comfortable and i am willing sacrifice that. Another good pair are the Shure 215 and Klipsch s4's both good price and sound!
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I gotta agree, the S4 is magic to my ears. Might not be better than Beats By Dre, but for the price it's very good
I use a set of Ultimate Ears Triple-Fi in-ears. They sound absolutly fabulous.
Here is a link for you, although these are the ones without a mic, but otherwise they are exactly the same.
These S4 Android phones from Klipsch are around £89 in UK. dont buy headphones from just anywhere as fakes are everywhere use sites that well known and on the manufacturers approved lists if possible. I doubt there wil be fake android S4 s about but take care though.
http://asia.cnet.com/crave/klipsch-s4-android-earphones-come-with-software-62210635.htm
are the original headset have good sound?
If you are refering to the headphones that come in the box with the sgs2 they sound as bad as the ones supplied by Apple for their iPhones.

Purchasing - Looking for advice on avoiding scams

Hi,
As per title, I have decided I want one of these HUs with the RK3399 and the MTCD/E MCU. I plan to flash with a custom ROM as soon as I have tested it and before installation.
History: had a Joying 10 inch a few years ago, hated it, want to do it right this time!
The vehicle (in my case) is a 2009 Toyota Prado 120 (similar to the Lexus GX470) RHD, The units I am looking at are full ctr console replacements with fascia and vertical screens.
After wading through the seemingly endless mire of Aliexpress listings and producing a shortlist, I am still a little overwhelmed and confused; prices and specs seem to be all over the place and in many places are contradictory. I'm an eBay kid, I have hardly used Ali before.
Of course, once I shorten my list a little bit more, I will get in contact with each seller to verify hardware specs and make sure I'm getting excatly what I am paying for.
So to help me (and maybe others having a read!) I have a few questions to help me filter out the 'too good to be trues' and the outright liars.
1. Hardware - does the fact that the unit has a RK3399 mean it is definitely a MTCD/E MCU?
2. Hardware(again) - does the fact that they state PX6 necessarily mean its a 3399?
3. Resolution - I have seen all manner of resolutions stated here... the most common seems to be 1024*760/600 but there are a fair few listings saying 1920*1080... which definitely piqued my interest. Is this an outright lie or is it possible that they really do have 1920*1080 displays? (my guess is they're listing it as a "yes it can display 1920*1080 content" and not necessarily actual screen res.)
I would love a true 1080 display but it's potentially too good to be true!
4. Screens - What specifically (if anything) should I look out for/ask about in relation to the screen? model number? some say IPS, some don't.... Are they all the same? (they certainly look pretty similar!)
5. AliEx stores - If anyone has any honest stores they would like to suggest I'm all ears(eyes?) Or even other outlets to buy these things? (eBay doesn't have much listed for my car) The stores I am shortlisting are ones that have decent ratings (obviously) and have been established for more than a year.
6. Anything else? tricks for new players?
Bear with me - its a solid chunk of cash and a decision I will have to live with for some years!
Yes it's my first post - have used the forum over the years for all sorts of information, hopefully I can give some back!
I'll have a go at answering some of your questions, but I'm fair new to this whole Android head unit game so if I'm wrong someone will hopefully correct me.
What was is it specifically about the Joying unit that you hated that you hope will be addressed by a new unit?
Virt1080 said:
1. Hardware - does the fact that the unit has a RK3399 mean it is definitely a MTCD/E MCU?
2. Hardware(again) - does the fact that they state PX6 necessarily mean its a 3399?
3. Resolution - I have seen all manner of resolutions stated here... the most common seems to be 1024*760/600 but there are a fair few listings saying 1920*1080... which definitely piqued my interest. Is this an outright lie or is it possible that they really do have 1920*1080 displays? (my guess is they're listing it as a "yes it can display 1920*1080 content" and not necessarily actual screen res.)
I would love a true 1080 display but it's potentially too good to be true!
4. Screens - What specifically (if anything) should I look out for/ask about in relation to the screen? model number? some say IPS, some don't.... Are they all the same? (they certainly look pretty similar!)
5. AliEx stores - If anyone has any honest stores they would like to suggest I'm all ears(eyes?) Or even other outlets to buy these things? (eBay doesn't have much listed for my car) The stores I am shortlisting are ones that have decent ratings (obviously) and have been established for more than a year.
6. Anything else? tricks for new players?
Bear with me - its a solid chunk of cash and a decision I will have to live with for some years!
Yes it's my first post - have used the forum over the years for all sorts of information, hopefully I can give some back!
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1) MTCD/E are MCU's manufactured by Microntek, but there are other manufacturers of MCUs out there than can be paired with the PX6, so there is no guarantee that a RK3399 means that the unit is fitted with an MTCD/E MCU
2) My understanding is that the RK3399 is a generic SoC, PX6 is a verson of the RK3399 specifically tailored for use in head units.
3) I don't know, but I would be wary of anyone claiming 1920 x 1080
4) Not sure
5) I bought a unit from Dasaita on AliExpress. It definately wasn't straightforward (first unit was sent to some other destination, they had to send me a replacement via DHL). But they did at least try to get things sorted ina timely manner. I chose Dasaita (aka hot-audio) mainly because they do post here on XDA. They are also on eBay, but the prices on Ali are better.
6) The aftermarket service from Dasaita leaves something to be desired, but from what I can see, none of them are very good at this. But I guess that's the price you pay for buying a cheap head unit. Overall, I'm very happy with my Dasaita PX6 unit, but i've only had it installed for a month, so early days.
Anyway, I hope that this is of some help to you, and good luck with your search!
jrobbom5 said:
I'll have a go at answering some of your questions, but I'm fair new to this whole Android head unit game so if I'm wrong someone will hopefully correct me.
What was is it specifically about the Joying unit that you hated that you hope will be addressed by a new unit?
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Hey thanks for the reply!
The Joying unit was likely my own fault for not doing enough research prior to purchase, paid too much for too little I guess.
It worked well for a while but progressively got slower until it was nearly unusable for anything more than a clock and radio, this was quite a few years ago though and I had not found any alternative firmware at the time, I eventually just formatted it for some minor improvement and sold the car anyway.
With this new unit I will be running hal9k from the start instead of the default firmware and am expecting fairly smooth operation. It will be used for offline raster maps while I am out in the bush
Thanks for the information regarding the hardware, I still had a few grey areas in my mind there so that helps clear a bit up.
I wanted to use Dasaita as they seemed to be recommended but they do not sell to suit my model.
I will start making some enquiries today and see if I can get any clarification on those 1920 displays.
Cheers!

Benefit to move from Android 9 to Android 10 on a Dasaita MAX6 unit?

Hey!
What are the benefits or +/- to upgrading my Android 9 MAX6 Dasaita unit to Android 10? It seems the best way to do this is via HalK9 mod? Thanks for any input.
Best regards...Stephen
Almost none, new bugs. If you're new to these, I'd absolutely suggest leaving the device alone if it's working OK.
If a bigger number is what you want, the best free way / factory way is via OTG.
marchnz said:
Almost none, new bugs. If you're new to these, I'd absolutely suggest leaving the device alone if it's working OK.
If a bigger number is what you want, the best free way / factory way is via OTG.
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Thanks. I had updated to the newest version for my MAX6 PX6 on Android 9 but that update started to cause issues with Zlink for CarPlay. I thought that with android 10 it would do updates over the air for Zlink and thus hopefully be able to download newer versions to fix issues. For the most part everything is working the Zlink just disconnects after about 30-45 minutes of use.
Also, what is OTG? (I'll do a search to find out more.)
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Thanks. I had updated to the newest version for my MAX6 PX6 on Android 9 but that update started to cause issues with Zlink for CarPlay. I thought that with android 10 it would do updates over the air for Zlink and thus hopefully be able to download newer versions to fix issues. For the most part everything is working the Zlink just disconnects after about 30-45 minutes of use.
Also, what is OTG? (I'll do a search to find out more.)
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If using zlink as primary, You're might be better off with a genuine Android Auto Unit.
Personal opinion: zlink is trouble, it is an app Chinese designed and manufactured greybox resellers use as a marketing carrot; users will be forever chasing updates as Google and Apple update their devices and block third party apps like zlink.
Pie is a fast and very stable platform.
Supports overlays and apps like Karma Firewall are fully functional on it unlike Q.
My Note 10+ is running Pie... for good reasons.
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Pie is a fast and very stable platform.
Supports overlays and apps like Karma Firewall are fully functional on it unlike Q.
My Note 10+ is running Pie... for good reasons.
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Of course your flagship reputable vendor phone is running Pie "for good reasons" mainly, security updates.
Consider that devices are not phones and the upgrade usually does not improve performance on these devices.
Also, the OS/Source is modified by the factory and can be different to standard Android, such as Bluetooth, which performs poorly.
If the device is working, there's usually no advantage in upgrading, unless there's an app compatibility issue.
Thanks for sharing, really interesting topic!
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Of course your flagship reputable vendor phone is running Pie "for good reasons" mainly, security updates.
Consider that devices are not phones and the upgrade usually does not improve performance on these devices.
Also, the OS/Source is modified by the factory and can be different to standard Android, such as Bluetooth, which performs poorly.
If the device is working, there's usually no advantage in upgrading, unless there's an app compatibility issue.
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Pie is simply a better OS regardless of the device. Of course each company can screw it up or enhance it as they see fit up to a point.
Security updates... haven't had one in over a year. No worries.
Don't try to fix something that ain't broken...
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Pie is simply a better OS regardless of the device. Of course each company can screw it up or enhance it as they see fit up to a point.
Security updates... haven't had one in over a year. No worries.
Don't try to fix something that ain't broken...
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I have had both 9 and 10. Virtually no difference.
These aren't TRUE android upgrades on these Chinese units. They are fairly butchered to accommodate a lot of custom software, which BTW is NOT updated along with the android operating systems. In the long run you're probably asking for more trouble than it is worth in doing an upgrade.
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I have had both 9 and 10. Virtually no difference.
These aren't TRUE android upgrades on these Chinese units. They are fairly butchered to accommodate a lot of custom software, which BTW is NOT updated along with the android operating systems. In the long run you're probably asking for more trouble than it is worth in doing an upgrade.
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I'm considering getting a Note 20U but Q concerns me... so it be nice if that isn't an issue.
However pretty sure it trashes Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature.
Android is in a flat spin that started with Q...
marchnz said:
If using zlink as primary, You're might be better off with a genuine Android Auto Unit.
Personal opinion: zlink is trouble, it is an app Chinese designed and manufactured greybox resellers use as a marketing carrot; users will be forever chasing updates as Google and Apple update their devices and block third party apps like zlink.
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Thanks again. I had to do a factory reset on my Android 9 Dasaita PX6 MAX6 and the Zlink for CarPlay onmy iPhone is working now again. You mention a "Genione Android Auto Unit". Can you give an example? I thought Dasaita was one but maybe I am missing something. Admittedly, I have never used Android as I have always been on Apple, hence, my search for a CarPlay compatible device for my Nissan.
Best regards... Stephen
argwallace said:
Thanks again. I had to do a factory reset on my Android 9 Dasaita PX6 MAX6 and the Zlink for CarPlay onmy iPhone is working now again. You mention a "Genione Android Auto Unit". Can you give an example? I thought Dasaita was one but maybe I am missing something. Admittedly, I have never used Android as I have always been on Apple, hence, my search for a CarPlay compatible device for my Nissan.
Best regards... Stephen
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Genuine AA: https://www.android.com/auto/compatibility/#compatibility-stereos
These greyboxes, such as sold by reseller dasaita are best suited to enthusiasts who accept issues. They are an Android cobbled to work as a car stereo, again they are not Android Auto, nor are they carplay.
I wish these Chinese origin head units were complete, working according to what they claim.
The reality is they they are inconsistent quality, bugs remain unresolved, ported to later releases.
I would say shyte quality, but fun for enthusiasts, but saying shyte would be inappropriate.
marchnz said:
Genuine AA: https://www.android.com/auto/compatibility/#compatibility-stereos
These greyboxes, such as sold by reseller dasaita are best suited to enthusiasts who accept issues.
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Ok, I see. My vehicle is from 2016 and there doesn’t seem to be much option of getting some of these features like CarPlay or AA in a suitable device that also interfaces with the vehicle unless I go to a Dasaita or similar (and thus Zlink). Maybe I am missing something. Get a new vehicle?
argwallace said:
Ok, I see. My vehicle is from 2016 and there doesn’t seem to be much option of getting some of these features like CarPlay or AA in a suitable device that also interfaces with the vehicle unless I go to a Dasaita or similar (and thus Zlink). Maybe I am missing something. Get a new vehicle?
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The chinese resellers claim the greyboxes interface well with vehicles via a canbus box, the reality is often accepting a compromise (according to posts in the forums, I don't use a canbus connected device)
marchnz said:
The chinese resellers claim the greyboxes interface well with vehicles via a canbus box, the reality is often accepting a compromise (according to posts in the forums, I don't use a carbon connected device)
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T for the feedback. I’ve been mostly pleased so far and just knowing what to expect is helpful from the options available under current conditions. I didn’t understand the part about “I don’t use a carbon connected device”???
I wouldn't say these head units interface to the car very well. They "interface" but not all that well. They do this with a minimal set of features and/or capability that never will be updated by the Chinese manufacturer. They're more likely to remove features and capabilities for various reasons.
For example, factory TPMS data, my SYGAV/DASAITA head unit will show the tire pressure data from the factory sensors but the values are shown in KPA instead of PSI. I asked about the possibility of them updating the software to display in PSI and their claim was "they can't." On an older, same branded head unit the TPMS data was shown in PSI. I believe they removed the functionality just to sell their TPMS sensors even though the data can be provided by the factory sensors.
Anyway that's the reason I am in software pursuit of being able to read what data I can from the canbus. I believe there's lots of data that could be read but isn't being displayed or used anywhere. Even if that TPMS data is delivered on the canbus in KPA, it's easy enough to mathematically convert to PSI for instance.
argwallace said:
T for the feedback. I’ve been mostly pleased so far and just knowing what to expect is helpful from the options available under current conditions. I didn’t understand the part about “I don’t use a carbon connected device”???
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Auto correct should read "I don't use a CANBUS connected device"
jlbooth said:
I wouldn't say these head units interface to the car very well. They "interface" but not all that well. They do this with a minimal set of features and/or capability that never will be updated by the Chinese manufacturer. They're more likely to remove features and capabilities for various reasons.
For example, factory TPMS data, my SYGAV/DASAITA head unit will show the tire pressure data from the factory sensors but the values are shown in KPA instead of PSI. I asked about the possibility of them updating the software to display in PSI and their claim was "they can't." On an older, same branded head unit the TPMS data was shown in PSI. I believe they removed the functionality just to sell their TPMS sensors even though the data can be provided by the factory sensors.
Anyway that's the reason I am in software pursuit of being able to read what data I can from the canbus. I believe there's lots of data that could be read but isn't being displayed or used anywhere. Even if that TPMS data is delivered on the canbus in KPA, it's easy enough to mathematically convert to PSI for instance.
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There are ways around that. Other programs are available from the google app store which can collect and display all your can bus data including tire pressure.
I use Torque Pro with a USB obd2 adapter. (My right front is displaying 0.0 because the sensor is broken)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You can even change the data being displayed and they way it's being display. It also gives you the ability to flip to a different page to display more data
Good suggestion, thank you. I have a Bluetooth OBD2 adapter and use torque pro app. But can torque show TPMS data? Torque is a good alternative if you want gauge data and diagnostic information.
Edit: I see in your screenshots indeed TPMS is available
What I have in mind would acquire and use many different pieces of data from the Canbus adapter provided with the radio. Again the Dasaita app will show TPMS data from the Toyota sensors so definitely it's available without having to bring in additional hardware. It's mainly a matter of listening for the broadcasted Android intents and decoding the data supplied with those intents.
Edit: Even if torque is able to display the data I'm looking for, I still plan to pursue development of my own app mainly for my own education if nothing else.
@Bob_Sanders which USB OBD2 adapter do you use? I've not found the TPMS data available with the Bluetooth adapter I have and that's why was maybe under the false impression that it wasn't possible with torque. Maybe I'm just using a less capable OBD2 adapter perhaps.

I hope this is the right forum.

I apologize if not. I'm desperate for assistance and I hope someone can point me in the right direction. I recently purchased a Dasaita Vivid 10 on Amazon for my 2015 Camry. Few things:
After installation and turning it on, I wasn't presented with the first time user setup. Additionally, there were a few local MP3s on there. Specifically "Hotel California" from The Eagles. Is this normal or was I sold a used unit? The unit itself had the plastic on the screen. ZERO marks that it was used. Everything from my perception was brand new.
However, when I went to connect WiFi, I received the seemingly common error of it turning on and instantly back off again. As such, I did a factory reset. This erased all of the music that was on the device. This leads me to think that it shouldn't come with music...
Each time I turn my car on, the WiFi is a red X on the icon on the bottom right. To resolve this, I need to hctreboot the thing using factory settings. After this, it will work. However this really sucks and I don't want to do this every time I get into my car. Last night I changed the BT setting and I believe it may have fixed the wifi issue. However, this broke Bluetooth. When I loaded up a hardware info application, there was a mac address for WiFi but none for BT. Is there a way to know which module I have to select the right setting?
Can someone explain exactly what I can do to fix this? After searching for hours I am so lost with all of the terms. Vivid, Scout, MAX. I have no idea where to even get a firmware file. What does MTCD stand for? While it may be considered a budget radio, $530 bucks is a big chunk of change for a radio to be this unreliable. I wrote on Dasaita's forums and it looks like they couldn't care less to assist people. Frustrated, and I'd like help here before returning this and returning to the stock unit. I can provide pictures of anything if needed, just let me know!
Thank you all!
Welcome to the world of cheap Chinese origin Android head units and quality issues.
There is no first run, that is normal.
MTCD refers to a type of unit based on HCT design. There are a bunch of factories that produce these and a bunch of resellers, such as dasaita that sell them, applying made up brand names and model codes. Dasaita appear to price their units at a premium.
Suggest returning it for the hardware issue and look to an FYT based unit, which might get you closer to what you want.
I no longer recommend MTCD based units, and have since brought an FYT 7862UIS based device. The bugs are less, superior hardware, fantastic audio and works without all the mods/hacks.
marchnz said:
Welcome to the world of cheap Chinese origin Android head units and quality issues.
There is no first run, that is normal.
MTCD refers to a type of unit based on HCT design. There are a bunch of factories that produce these and a bunch of resellers, such as dasaita that sell them, applying made up brand names and model codes. Dasaita appear to price their units at a premium.
Suggest returning it for the hardware issue and look to an FYT based unit, which might get you closer to what you want.
I no longer recommend MTCD based units, and have since brought an FYT 7862UIS based device. The bugs are less, superior hardware, fantastic audio and works without all the mods/hacks.
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Aww man, not the news I wanted to hear however it was expected. At this point I might just go back to stock. I really loved how the dasaita fit into my Camry as it looks super OEM and clean.
Do you know of any of the FYT units that look OEM for a 2015 Camry?
Is this FYT: https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-1...radio-replacement-2015-2017-android-auto.html
I have a 2017 Camry and have this head unit:
https://www.amazon.com/SYGAV-Android-Toyota-Carplay-Navigation/dp/B08PKZY28H/ref=sr_1_1
While it's not a FYT unit, I will tell you that it does not have Vivid installed on it and has worked quite well in my Camry for over a year now.
Would be happy to answer any questions about it. I posted a review on Amazon and have answered a few questions over on Amazon as well.
jlbooth said:
I have a 2017 Camry and have this head unit:
https://www.amazon.com/SYGAV-Android-Toyota-Carplay-Navigation/dp/B08PKZY28H/ref=sr_1_1
While it's not a FYT unit, I will tell you that it does not have Vivid installed on it and has worked quite well in my Camry for over a year now.
Would be happy to answer any questions about it. I posted a review on Amazon and have answered a few questions over on Amazon as well.
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Thanks so much for this! If I can't get my Dasaita working correctly, I will absolutely return and get that one!
Check this firmware recently released:
ha3_rk3399_10.0_ota(20220329+蓝牙MCU专用包).zip
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