Just got my android 8.0 update, wanted to make sure other AT&T V30 users are aware.
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Just got my android 8.0 update, wanted to make sure other AT&T V30 users are aware.
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Yours is late. AT&T users started getting it 10 days ago...
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/28/att-pushes-android-8-0-update-lg-v30/
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-update-807013/
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-receiving-Android-8.0-Oreo-update-AT-T_id103649
U.S. Cellular US998, T-mobile H932 and North America official carrier unlocked US998 are still waiting. Both US998 can use the same KDZ.
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I bought an AT&T variant of the v30 but I'm on cricket. Will I get the update? If not, how can I?
cocoapapi said:
I bought an AT&T variant of the v30 but I'm on cricket. Will I get the update? If not, how can I?
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Maybe. Please let us know if you do.
cocoapapi said:
I bought an AT&T variant of the v30 but I'm on cricket. Will I get the update? If not, how can I?
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You can always switch to AT&T Prepaid, get better service, get better speeds... Get updates.
AT&T Prepaid uses same SIM card as postpaid AT&T customers, same low lag servers, same in-store customer service. Just don't get their "unlimited" plan, get the $45 6GB plan. But with autopay and Calling Mart you can get it for $36 per account or less ($5 discount for every person you add)
When my wife and I were on identical plans, I got the cost down to $33.75 per person.
Pure AT&T speed at prepaid prices. 23ms pings are fantastic. Anything lower than 30 ms is great.
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That's a great deal. I have the five lines for $100 5gb each
cocoapapi said:
That's a great deal. I have the five lines for $100 5gb each
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Yeah but Cricket is throttled at 8GB and often triple digit pings.
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You can always switch to AT&T Prepaid, get better service, get better speeds... Get updates.
AT&T Prepaid uses same SIM card as postpaid AT&T customers, same low lag servers, same in-store customer service. Just don't get their "unlimited" plan, get the $45 6GB plan. But with autopay and Calling Mart you can get it for $36 per account or less ($5 discount for every person you add)
When my wife and I were on identical plans, I got the cost down to $33.75 per person.
Pure AT&T speed at prepaid prices. 23ms pings are fantastic. Anything lower than 30 ms is great.
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Wow US are expensive ! In france i have a 20GB plan for 10€ (12$) and can get 50GB for 15€ (18$)
coyot352 said:
Wow US are expensive ! In france i have a 20GB plan for 10€ (12$) and can get 50GB for 15€ (18$)
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How are speeds over there?
Our plans also tend to include unlimited calls/unlimited messages. Some include unlimited calls to Canada, Mexico and a few other countries.
Here the main difference is speeds between carriers and prepaid MVNOs. Actual carriers are faster, while MVNOs (those who resell carrier service) often throttle speeds and/or have much higher ping speeds since they are using different data servers. Also MNVOs have lower network priority than the carriers' REAL retail customers and will be kicked off first when there's network congestion.
Some MVNOs like Straight Talk let you bring your own device, while others make you buy their phones (which you often can't take anywhere else).
I've used MVNOs in the past, I have family members who still do, and they serve a purpose to give you a mobile connection -- but you have to understand the quality tradeoffs. I've always had prepaid, I've never had a carrier contract, and I've always owned my phones outright, but I've found AT&T Prepaid to be the best of the Prepaid category.
Even though Cricket is owned by AT&T it's configured like an MVNO -- with different SIM card, different data servers, throttled speeds for every price plan. Cricket has separate retail locations, with no AT&T branding.
AT&T uses prepaid Cricket to compete against the plethora of cut rate prepaid MVNOs like Straight Talk, H2O, Ting, while never putting their AT&T logo anywhere near anything to do with Cricket business. Because Cricket would hurt AT&T image.
Whereas AT&T uses their "premium" prepaid service -- AT&T Prepaid (with AT&T logo) -- to compete against T-Mobile and Sprint (other actual carriers). Except for one plan, all the AT&T Prepaid plans have full high speed data. Same data servers as AT&T postpaid (so low lag/low pings), exact same AT&T SIM card. Same in store customer service. But lower cost than AT&T postpaid (contract), because you already own your phone. You're only paying for monthly service. Except for one particular plan, AT&T Prepaid users get speeds and low pings like this below, because this is the same speeds AT&T postpaid users get. This is a recent speeds test by me on AT&T Prepaid.
(If you can't see the picture it's over 70gbps download with 23ms ping.)
And since it's ACTUALLY retail AT&T (not a wholesale reseller or configured like one) those AT&T Prepaid customers will definitely get updates on their AT&T branded phone.
ChazzMatt said:
How are speeds?
Our plans also tend to include unlimited calls/unlimited messages. Some include unlimited calls to Canada, Mexico and a few other countries.
Here the main difference is speeds between carriers and prepaid MVNOs. Actual carriers are faster, while MVNOs (those who resell carrier service) often throttle speeds and have much higher ping speeds since they are using different data servers. Also MNVOs have lower network priority than the carriers' REAL retail customers and will be kicked off first when there's congestion.
Some MVNOs like Straight Talk let you bring your own device, while others make you buy their phones (which you often can't take anywhere else).
I've used MVNOs in the past, I have family members who still do, and they serve a purpose to give you a connection -- but you have to understand the quality tradeoffs.
Even though Cricket is owned by AT&T it's configured like an MVNO -- with different SIM card, different data servers, throttled speeds for every price plan. Cricket has separate retail locations, with no AT&T branding.
AT&T uses prepaid Cricket to compete against the plethora of cut rate prepaid MVNOs like Straight Talk, H2O, Ting, while never putting their AT&T logo anywhere near anything to do with Cricket business.
Whereas AT&T uses their "premium" prepaid service -- AT&T Prepaid -- to compete against T-Mobile and Sprint (actual carriers). Except for one plan, all the AT&T Prepaid plans have full high speed data. Same data servers as AT&T postpaid (so low lag/low pings), exact same AT&T SIM card. Same in store customer service. But lower cost than AT&T postpaid (contract), because you already own your phone.
And since it's ACTUALLY retail AT&T (not a wholesale reseller or configured like one) those AT&T Prepaid customers will definitely get updates on their AT&T branded phone.
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The speed is good, we have the 4g "+"
Calls and sms / multimedia sms are also unlimited(3hours max per call), also for all Europe and DOM (French Islands: guadeloupe, Martinique, Reunion et la Guyane)
We also have the right to 3GB in other countries.
It is a classic operator in France, all this is without commitment, I can leave and change operator for free when I want.
On the other hand I buy my phones "naked", if I want a credit to pay for the phone I have to commit myself .. but I prefer to pay cash, we do not like to have debts or to be imprisoned in France.
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I've used MVNOs in the past, I have family members who still do, and they serve a purpose to give you a mobile connection -- but you have to understand the quality tradeoffs. I've always had prepaid, I've never had a carrier contract, and I've always owned my phones outright, but I've found AT&T Prepaid to be the best of the Prepaid category.
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I am a prepaid/own phone outright guy as well. I have different family members on different MVNOs based on use cases ($10/month on Red Pocket for my daughter is more than good enough for her). But I am on T-mobile and found a great (and cheap) plan that works well for me.
Anyway, AT&T question... is the 6GB on that $45 plan a hard or soft cap? If it is a soft cap, I am switching someone to it post-haste
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I am a prepaid/own phone outright guy as well. I have different family members on different MVNOs based on use cases ($10/month on Red Pocket for my daughter is more than good enough for her). But I am on T-mobile and found a great (and cheap) plan that works well for me.
Anyway, AT&T question... is the 6GB on that $45 plan a hard or soft cap? If it is a soft cap, I am switching someone to it post-haste
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Soft. They never cut you off, they will severely throttle you. And you can buy more high speed data if you wish.
Plus, all unused data rolls over for 30 days. So, most months I have more than 6GB high speed data to use.
Also by using a combo agreeing to AT&T auto pay (but not actually using it) and using discount online payment service Callingmart, you can get that "$45" 6GB high speed data plan down to $36 per person or even less.
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45$ for 6gb???I have 20Gb for just 11usdyou have hopeless tariffs.
skit777 said:
45$ for 6gb??[emoji23]I have 20Gb for just 11usdyou have hopeless tariffs.
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Well, no one actually pays $45 unless they don't know better. I've gotten mine down to the low $30's for the "$45" 6GB plan, through auto pay and using discount online payment service. No taxes.
But I assure you, for the speed (download as well as low pings) and network coverage and reliability that's a very good price in the U.S. If you try going lower price you have to use resellers (MVNOs) who have lower network priority, who throttle your speeds, who have triple digit pings (high lag), data outages (because they have their own data servers). I've used them before and I can see the difference.
OR if you try getting more data you'll often get throttled to much lower speeds or pay much higher price. (AT&T Prepaid even has an "unlimited" plan I won't touch, as it's the only plan that has throttled speeds.)
With me in Poland it does not matter what you pay, you always have the same very good speed. The difference in price comes down to the amount of transfer. So it is very expensive for you, as you would have discovered the internet recently.
ChazzMatt said:
Yours is late. AT&T users started getting it 10 days ago...
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/28/att-pushes-android-8-0-update-lg-v30/
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-update-807013/
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-receiving-Android-8.0-Oreo-update-AT-T_id103649
U.S. Cellular US998, T-mobile H932 and North America official carrier unlocked US998 are still waiting. Both US998 can use the same KDZ.
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Anyway to download the firmware?
Lmax579 said:
Anyway to download the firmware?
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Did AT&T cripple LG Bridge, like Sprint did?
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Did AT&T cripple LG Bridge, like Sprint did?
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I'm assuming it did..... How would I know?
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I'm assuming it did..... How would I know?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/how-use-lg-bridge-your-lg-phone
Well you have an AT&T H931, while I don't. I assume you want it because you have an H931?
LG Bridge is an easy way to download the firmware. In fact for the US998 10C update, I copied the server ip address my phone was using to download that update via LG Bridge and posted it for others to use to download it for themselves in a web browser.
Sprint users can't use LG Bridge. Sprint crippled that function. If AT&T didn't, then there's how you can download.
Anyway, read the article at that link and you'll know what LG Bridge is.
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https://www.androidcentral.com/how-use-lg-bridge-your-lg-phone
Well you have an AT&T H931, while I don't. I assume you want it because you have an H931?
LG Bridge is an easy way to download the firmware. In fact for the US998 10C update, I copied the server ip address my phone was using to download that update via LG Bridge and posted it for others to use to download it for themselves in a web browser.
Sprint users can't use LG Bridge. Sprint crippled that function. If AT&T didn't, then there's how you can download.
Anyway, read the article at that link and you'll know what LG Bridge is.
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Att definitely crippled it
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Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys
duke911 said:
Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys
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I just left AT&T due to extremely poor customer service. AT&T is the only carrier that offers rollover minutes, but their 3G coverage is spotty, and when switching from 3G to Edge or vise versa, you will experience a lot of dropped calls. If you want to use your phone as a modem with AT&T you have to get a tethering plan which will run you $60/month. Verizon has a much larger 3G coverage area, and you don't have to worry about the network being burdened by iPhone users. Sprint has rolled out 4G coverage in some areas with plans to expand. Sprint has cheaper calling plans, but their subsidized phone prices are higher. All in all, do your research, and check online for reviews of coverage, network speed, and customer service.
1. reception obviously varies by location. VZW probably has the best claim to the best nationwide coverage--their business model has very much focused on network building, and up until very recently, their phone selection sucked because they didn't invest as much in securing great smartphones. Alternatively, ATT has focused investment heavily on having great phones, and haven't focused investment as much on building any of their networks.
That said, ATT has great phone reception in a lots of metropolitan areas. There might even be some areas where they have better coverage. And while their 3G data coverage isn't nearly as broad, where it exists, it has been tested as being the fastest (especially when you're not using an iPhone).
2. No, all wireless carriers have a cap of some kind. Further most will charge an extra $30ish a month on top of the $30ish a month for smartphone data for tethering (using your phone as a modem), and they'll still have a data cap.
3. I don't know VZW's plans.
ive been with ATT for YEARS and their costumer service can kiss my ass because i never use it. why? because they offer best reception where im at. why would i want to find out how good t-mobiles costumer service is? i just want a reliable network. all carriers have crappy prices and conditions here. just find the one that works for you and dont listen to what anyone else says. why would you care if verizon has 3g in montana and att doesnt if you live in LA?? its irrelevant. find the least crappy one for you and stick with it.
Do some research on the difference between CDMA and GSM networks. One may work better than another in certain situations.
T-Mobile has cheap rate plans and free tethering.
Sprint has a WiMax network rolling out, although all of the carriers are working on LTE or some other standard of 4G- Not really a concern at this point, since few phones support it.
Verizon has the best customer satisfaction ratings, but their phones are often locked down with software.
AT&T has a history of dropping calls, but has the fastest recorded data speeds.
No matter whom you may chose, you will end up disappointed over some facet or another. You will need to get DSL or some other form of land-based internet, unless you can keep yourself constrained to the 5GB data caps that ALL of the carriers have.
I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers
duke911 said:
I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers
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Yeah, it's kind of misleading. The Verizon Touch Pro2 is actually a CDMA/GSM hybrid device, which works on Verizon's CDMA network or any GSM network. In theory, you should be able to use it on any GSM network in any country as long as you have a valid SIM card.
you cant trust advertising. it makes it appear that all options are shiney. verizon claims all of its wireless technologies as 3g no matter what they are, whether they have speeds slower than atts 2g or worse. the verizon touch pro will not actually work in the us or canada on gsm. you also need to pay for vodofone service separately to get international coverage. you can flash a radio that will let you use atts network but youll loose the cdma network verizon uses. sprints 4g network is not as promising as i hoped. its slower than atts 3g network and to use it you have to buy a $10 1-day pass that will let you use 4g in about 10 or so cities. its also not on any phones. in terms of data or unlimited plans, i would probably have to recommend t-mobile. even though i think they have the ugliest version of the touch pro 2. verizon does limit there unlimited plans to 4gb a month i think. and yes att is the only one with roll over. i never use my minutes so i up to about 10000 minutes rolled over. i will never be charged overage as long as i live.
I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
So I signed up with Verizon, which did not even sell phones within a hundred miles of where I would be using it. That was in March of 2007. I went to Alaska for 16 months where it roamed constantly. Not a peep from Verizon about not being on their network. When going to a remote village for more than a month where no cell phone would work, I would just call them and they would suspend my phone for the time I was there. No bill at all and no charge for turning it off. So I have to say the customer support from Verizon is the best there is and ATT is the absolute worst.
texascbx said:
I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
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they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.
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they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
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Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.
thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that.
I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)?
I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
Cheers
duke911 said:
thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that. I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)? I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
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I purchased my VZW off contract. Unsubsidized is probably about $500.
Different carriers have different rules for their prepaid services. With GSM carriers, TMo and ATT, it's easy to pop a prepaid sim into any phone. With CDMA (Sprint and VZW), I'm not sure. Best bet is to call and ask.
well i had sprint for ever...I switched to tmobile.. to get that tp2 free through wmdeals.com even though coverage sucks at my house im happy.. I have wifi for data when im home.. when i leave my home i have edge service everwhere.. til i start getting close to mesquite ( texas ) it goes to 3g.. but edge works great with opera mini.. and for updating certain things.. but so far tmobile rocks..
The Jack of Clubs said:
they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.
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That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.
I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
anyway... I like really the verizon version of the Touch Pro 2..
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
I never used CDMA before, and after reading some info, I think GSM is better for me, at least for now...
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I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
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You never know with reps. I seem to recall that VZW's prepaid might have some unlimited data intended for dumbphones, which of course they wouldn't want you to use with a smartphone.
There are MVNOs, like Page Plus, that use VZW's network, but have prepaid plans where they probably wouldn't be concerned about smartphone usage (pay per kb instead of unlimited).
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
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You can get it unlocked here and use it on ATT or TMo (minus 3g, 2g data still works), and as to whether you can cancel after the fact without penalty, it depends on exactly what you signed up for at VZW.
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That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.
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Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.
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well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.
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well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.
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Well, that's not entirely true. AT&T devices can use T-Mobile's network, just not HSPA (3G), and vice versa. Before I got my 8925, my main phone was an old T-Mobile Blackberry 7200 which I unlocked to use on AT&T. It could make phone calls and browse at EDGE speeds just fine. The 3G bands are f*cked up internationally since they often differ by country and carrier, but the EDGE and basic GSM bands are pretty much compatible with any GSM phone (since most GSM phones are Tri-band or Quad-band capable).
In addition, it's perfectly possible to use another network in the same country. If a company like AT&T doesn't have infrastructure in a remote area and wants to add service there, they'll often strike a deal with a local carrier who does. It's usually a seamless transition for the user, and it doesn't generally cost the user a cent. Rather, AT&T is the one paying the local cellular operator for allowing the AT&T customers use the local carrier's network as opposed to the alternative of having no coverage in that area. AT&T got mad at texascbx because he was costing AT&T money by roaming on these local carriers, which AT&T had to pay.
Lastly, I know people who live near the borders and they always are careful to see which operator they are using. One of them lives near the Mexican border, and has to make sure he's on AT&T's network before he makes a call. If he doesn't check, he might be roaming on the TelMex network and will get billed outrageous fees for a simple call, even though he's in the US.
I was at the mall today, and I talked to a T-Mobile guy, and he said I can get the T-mobile version of touch pro 2 for full retail, and I can use it with their prepaid plan without any porblems.
Then I spoke with a Verizon representative, and he said that I can't do that on their network, however I can buy the device with out a contract and without any plan...
So my Final question (and I guess fortunz answered before,but I still feel like asking coz I don't want to through 500$ away)... If I get the Verizon Touch Pro 2, and get it unlocked here
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578642
will I be able to use it with any carrier?? prepaid or plan??
I don't really mind about the data, as I'll be using WiFi mainly
Thanks a lot
i currently have tmobile with an HTC G2 phone and i love it. i want to switch to StraightTalk (way lower monthly bill) and i seen that they now offer cdma and gsm phones. what would i need to do to be able to use my g2 on the strighttalk network. i know it violates their terms but its my phone. any help would be appreciated.
nothing.... surely someone has wanted to do something similar like this before.
G2 is GSM. Straitetalk is CDMA.
Not going to happen. Close thread.
Kthx
rhcp0112345 said:
G2 is GSM. Straitetalk is CDMA.
Not going to happen. Close thread.
Kthx
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NO NOT CORRECT. Straight talk has CDMA AND GSM phones. look...
The NOKIA E71 is a GSM Phone as well as others
Nokia 6790 is too.
"Straight Talk is one of TracFone's newest brands. The Straight Talk brand offers five different value-based 30-day rate plans: a $30 limited plan, and a $45 Unlimited text, web and minutes plan, a $135 three-month Unlimited plan, a $270 six-month Unlimited plan, and a $540 one year Unlimited plan. Straight Talk is a Mobile Virtual Network operator (MVNO) offering both CDMA and GSM support. The CDMA side of the network uses Verizon's CDMA 1xRTT wireless network, which was introduced in 2001 and is said to deliver between 40 and 60 kb/s to customers,[8] while the GSM side makes use of either T-Mobile's or AT&T's GSM networks.
Fourteen phones are available for use with Straight Talk: the LG 100C, LG 200C, LG 220C, LG 290C, LG 420G, LG 620G, Motorola W385, Motorola RAZR V3A, Samsung R451C, Samsung T401G, Samsung R355C, Samsung Finesse R810C, Nokia E71, and Nokia Surge (6790). There are exceptions to 1xRTT-only service. The Finesse R810C, an EV-DO-capable handset, performs at higher speeds where such coverage is available. The Nokia E71 and Nokia Surge (6790) are the first smartphones to be offered by Straight Talk. They offer 3G coverage through AT&T. Users of these phones are required to purchase the $45/30 day Unlimited plan. All other phones can be use with either the $45 Unlimited plan or the $30 "All You Need" plan which provides 1000 minutes, 1000 texts and 30MB. All plans provide service for a period of 30 days.
Straight Talk is currently exclusive to Wal-Mart stores because of a joint-venture program between the two companies.[9]"
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so is it possible to unlock another gsm phone to work on their netowrk.
Yes but only if it uses the right frequencies.
Hey guys, I was just wondering if this device can be purchased in the US and what networks it will run on. Specifically, will it run on T-Mobile USA. Thanks!
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Hey guys, I was just wondering if this device can be purchased in the US and what networks it will run on. Specifically, will it run on T-Mobile USA. Thanks!
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EDGE speeds only on T-Mobile, both One X's (international and U.S) don't have AWS bands. They'll work on 1900Mhz in refarmed markets but that's less than 10% of T-Mobile's network right now.
No to purchased in the U.S. for the international version unless you live in NYC or Chicago where you can pick it up at places that normally do online only. An AT&T store if you're talking about the U.S. version.
You can get a contract-less post-paid plan from AT&T because you're bringing your own equipment (the international version). Since the IMEI isn't in their database they don't know what kind of phone it is. You can tell them it's a Motorola Krzr (a non-smart data phone) and get a cheap data plan. If you take the $39.99 450 minute plan, and add messaging unlimited with mobile-to-any-mobile calling for $20, you can add unlimited data for non-Smartphones for $10. So your total monthly bill (before taxes) will be $69.99. And, for now, there's no soft cap on the data for non-Smartphones plan. You'll get HSPA+ data which I've seen as high as 8MB down in TX.
You could probably do one of the MVNO's and get it a little cheaper but people have reported mixed results both for activation and d/l speeds.
Good luck.
Title says it all. I will be deploying soon (ARNG), and want to know if my new GS3 will work overseas. Thanks.
I doubt it. It doesn't have a SIM slot visible... I also doubt it has an internal one for GSM use. The Verizon version apparently does or will have that functionality. Verizon peeps, is there a SIM slot visible on yours?
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That's not good. The big question now is do I get a phone that I'll only be able to use for 6 months. :-(
there's a sim slot for the LTE sim card under the battery cover on verizon is that what you mean?
so sprint does not have a sim [gsm] capability?
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i have the USCellular version of the galaxy and they give you a sim card for the phone to support their LTE service for 4G.
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there's a sim slot for the LTE sim card under the battery cover on verizon is that what you mean?
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I thought I read somewhere that the Verizon and Sprint GS3 were supposed to be identical hardware wise.
Verizon and Sprint still live in a tiny bubble where the USA is the only country on the planet.....CDMA is old outdated technology, but they try to make it sound cool with 'LTE' catchphrases and the like.
GSM is the predominant service on the planet for cell phones - period. And that's why I have stuck with T-Mobile, even when sometimes their US coverage is not the greatest. I am usually never far from a wi-fi hotspot (they are EVERYWHERE and free in lots of places), so I can live with the coverage issues here and there. Let's face it, all the carriers have coverage issues depending on where you are, so it all balances in the end.
If you actually travel to other countries and would like to take advantage of very cheap pre-paid SIM cards that let you use GSM providers globally, then don't buy a Sprint or Verizon phone. The roaming charges will make it nonviable unless you like getting hit for up to $5 per minute! Many don't realize that cell phone plans in the US are ridiculously overpriced compared to most other countries (Australia, Europe, UK etc), because there's a thing in these other countries called competition and that has every company fighting for your business. Here in the US, we have the big 4 trying to monopolize everything, although there is change in the wind with companies like CREDO (great company BTW - shame it's on Sprint's network so global use is out), Virgin Mobile, Walmart and MetroPCS making the big 4 be more competitive. I still can't believe Verizon's plan costs - my girlfriend and I happened to stop and chat with them in Costco the other day and for us to have unlimited voice, text and SHARE 2GB of data a month it would be way over $220 per month for us both.
With T-Mobile we have unlimited everything (2GB data EACH, and then they 'may' throttle beyond that, although I haven't experienced a slow down when I've only just gone over) for $140 a month total.
It's easy to unlock a GSM phone to be able to use local SIM cards in whatever country you are in, giving you complete freedom on planet earth.
Or you can stick with your 'LTE' (Limited Talk Everywhere)..lol
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Verizon and Sprint still live in a tiny bubble where the USA is the only country on the planet.....CDMA is old outdated technology, but they try to make it sound cool with 'LTE' catchphrases and the like.
GSM is the predominant service on the planet for cell phones - period. And that's why I have stuck with T-Mobile, even when sometimes their US coverage is not the greatest. I am usually never far from a wi-fi hotspot (they are EVERYWHERE and free in lots of places), so I can live with the coverage issues here and there. Let's face it, all the carriers have coverage issues depending on where you are, so it all balances in the end.
If you actually travel to other countries and would like to take advantage of very cheap pre-paid SIM cards that let you use GSM providers globally, then don't buy a Sprint or Verizon phone. The roaming charges will make it nonviable unless you like getting hit for up to $5 per minute! Many don't realize that cell phone plans in the US are ridiculously overpriced compared to most other countries (Australia, Europe, UK etc), because there's a thing in these other countries called competition and that has every company fighting for your business. Here in the US, we have the big 4 trying to monopolize everything, although there is change in the wind with companies like CREDO (great company BTW - shame it's on Sprint's network so global use is out), Virgin Mobile, Walmart and MetroPCS making the big 4 be more competitive. I still can't believe Verizon's plan costs - my girlfriend and I happened to stop and chat with them in Costco the other day and for us to have unlimited voice, text and SHARE 2GB of data a month it would be way over $220 per month for us both.
With T-Mobile we have unlimited everything (2GB data EACH, and then they 'may' throttle beyond that, although I haven't experienced a slow down when I've only just gone over) for $140 a month total.
It's easy to unlock a GSM phone to be able to use local SIM cards in whatever country you are in, giving you complete freedom on planet earth.
Or you can stick with your 'LTE' (Limited Talk Everywhere)..lol
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And what's your point?
To the OP: no, you can't use a SIM card on a Sprint S3, so no GSM.
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And what's your point?
To the OP: no, you can't use a SIM card on a Sprint S3, so no GSM.
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I did have a long answer, but thought my point was pretty obvious to the OP?
If you travel internationally and still want to use your phone (wifi hotspots using grooveIP doesn't count as global use), then buying a Sprint or Verizon GS3, or any other verizon/sprint phone is a poor choice, unless you don't mind coming home to a monstrous bill (easily several hundred dollars, and that's conservative if he is overseas for 6+ months at average international roaming charges of $3.50 per minute, but as high as $5 per minute).
If you already bought the phone from Sprint you should have a 30 day return/cancellation policy, which in your case would be wise to utilize, even moreso if you plan on regular international travel - Sprint/Verizon are bad choices for regular world travel. If you can't/don't want to cancel service, then you would be wise to buy a local el-cheapo pre-paid phone in the country you are based. Your GS3 is only useful for wifi calling/playing solitaire unless you can afford hundreds/thousands $'s bill over your 6 month stay.
Good luck to you.
Edit: Just noticed your OP was in July, so you are stuck with your phone......local prepaid phone is your option.
As a former 10 year sprint customer, I move to Verizon 2 years ago and got much better service and data speeds. However, sprint has a half price promotion for verizon customers and I am considering coming back to sprint.
Has sprint improved any the last 2 years and what speeds are you getting on your note 4. On Verizon in Lubbock Tx I get 16 down and 5 up on data.
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As a former 10 year sprint customer, I move to Verizon 2 years ago and got much better service and data speeds. However, sprint has a half price promotion for verizon customers and I am considering coming back to sprint.
Has sprint improved any the last 2 years and what speeds are you getting on your note 4. On Verizon in Lubbock Tx I get 16 down and 5 up on data.
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What do you mean half off? Like half off the unlimted plan?
They slow your internet lol
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I get 20 plus down all the time. 5 to 7 up.
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I get 7-10 MPs inside buildings no data services
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Good enough depending on where you are..
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As a former 10 year sprint customer, I move to Verizon 2 years ago and got much better service and data speeds. However, sprint has a half price promotion for verizon customers and I am considering coming back to sprint.
Has sprint improved any the last 2 years and what speeds are you getting on your note 4. On Verizon in Lubbock Tx I get 16 down and 5 up on data.
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4g - never have gotten over 10 down. 3g when 4g is not available - 1 down
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What do you mean half off? Like half off the unlimted plan?
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Yep. Check out phonescoop's article here:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=14969
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What do you mean half off? Like half off the unlimted plan?
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You take your last bill from verizon or att and they give you the same service for half price. You have to turn in a Verizon phone.
Look on sprints web site and it gives all the details. Starts Friday.
In lubbock sprint is 1.5 up and down on what they call 4g. Not very good
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You take your last bill from verizon or att and they give you the same service for half price. You have to turn in a Verizon phone.
Look on sprints web site and it gives all the details. Starts Friday.
In lubbock sprint is 1.5 up and down on what they call 4g. Not very good
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Well since AT&T nor Verizon offer unlimited (data) plans...the deal probably won't be for unlimited plans. Right? You would most likely pay the same as a current subscriber for unlimited.
If you are in a Spark market and connected to a band 41 (2500 mhz) tower you can get over 40mb downloads. On the other lte bands typical download speeds are between 5 and 10 mb. That is assuming the market is fully launched. Those are the speeds I get in Denver.
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First thing to do is do some homework and see what LTE/Spark services are like in your area where you will be using your phone most. I can say one thing for sure, and that is that Sprint has been doing a lot of upgrades lately and has done a lot since you left two years ago. Service is great in some places and so so in others. For example I live on the edge of tower range and I barely get decent data connection in my house BUT it does work well when i'm in the corner room of my house that's closest to that tower. I get pretty good data speeds and I have a metal roof!!!
Second thing to take into consideration is which is most important to you right now... price/value or known good service with a higher price tag and not unlimited. It's your decision. just do a little research on Sprint coverage in your area and make a choice. I feel like Sprint will stop offering unlimited data for smartphones soon. I'm not getting rid of my unlimited service/plan because from what I've seen and experienced with Sprint since 2008 is night and day difference. Last thing you need to take into account is the new Sprint Spark devices in favor of a regular LTE non Spark device. The data service will be better for a Spark device. So when getting opinions and testimonies and Speed tests from users, find out which device they have along with their location. Good luck.
Yes, 1/2 off on new members from Verizon or AT&T. All you have to do is take in your phone bill to the nearest Sprint dealer. Sprint has there new TDD-LTE with current download speeds at 60mbps. The same network tested in China and Japan at 150+ mbps. However, the new TDD-LTE network is now in the top 100 markets within the USA. But, I'm not sure if it's in your area yet. However, if you go here: s4gru(dot)com you will be able to determine if the TDD is within area.
But the way Sprint is going, I foresee them setting up a partnership with China mobile and the Network in Japan. This way they might have free roaming within those areas because those networks use a TDD Advanced chip set. Also the thing you might want to think about is the price per share with the top telecoms. Verizon price per share is around $45 and AT&T's price per share is around $35 give or take a dime. If Sprint current price per share is around $4.75 is putting in superior network, odds are really good that Sprint's price per share will go up to at least $25 to $30 in line with the others. But that's just my humble opinion.
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What do you mean half off? Like half off the unlimted plan?
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Yes, 1/2 off on new members from Verizon or AT&T. All you have to do is take in your phone bill to the nearest Sprint dealer. Sprint has there new TDD-LTE with current download speeds at 60mbps. The same network tested in China and Japan at 150+ mbps. However, the new TDD-LTE network is now in the top 100 markets within the USA. But, I'm not sure if it's in your area yet. However, if you go here: s4gru(dot)com you will be able to determine if the TDD is within area.
But the way Sprint is going, I foresee them setting up a partnership with China mobile and the Network in Japan. This way they might have free roaming within those areas because those networks use a TDD Advanced chip set. Also the thing you might want to think about is the price per share with the top telecoms. Verizon price per share is around $45 and AT&T's price per share is around $35 give or take a dime. If Sprint current price per share is around $4.75 is putting in superior network, odds are really good that Sprint's price per share will go up to at least $25 to $30 in line with the others. But that's just my humble opinion.
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Thanks for the info but I disagree on Sprint being a $30 stock anytime soon. They made a very stupid purchase of nextel and the wimax rollout was a disaster. They cannot get long term customers because service and phone access to data and voice is worse than ATT and Verizon. No customers, no upgrade money available. Maybe since the Japanese became investors they can survive. I left them 2 years ago after 10+ years of sub par but cheap service. The new plan would save me $75 per month but I am still not sure it is worth it.
Test done just now...
I'm going to the Sprint store tomorrow with my AT&T bill and see what they can do for me. Currently I'm with AT&T and have 2 phones in my plan. I've got an unlimited data plan with my phone and my wife has a 2gb plan with her phone. My contract is up so I can go with any carrier I want. The Sprint coverage looks good both at my job location and at home. I'm sure I've have some issues when I take trips up to Vermont.
However, this deal does seem a little too good to be true. Currently I'm paying around $155 for both phones a month. If they can beat that then I'll go with Sprint.
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I'm going to the Sprint store tomorrow with my AT&T bill and see what they can do for me. Currently I'm with AT&T and have 2 phones in my plan. I've got an unlimited data plan with my phone and my wife has a 2gb plan with her phone. My contract is up so I can go with any carrier I want. The Sprint coverage looks good both at my job location and at home. I'm sure I've have some issues when I take trips up to Vermont.
However, this deal does seem a little too good to be true. Currently I'm paying around $155 for both phones a month. If they can beat that then I'll go with Sprint.
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Not saying Sprint is a pos... But you may be disappointed if you get rid of your unlimited att.
Sprint is good in certain markets. I'm in nyc and for the most part it's ok. The other carriers have faster data speeds. I've been with Sprint for almost 10 years and I can say it's been a good ride.