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Verizon Tab S 8.4 - Did I purchase a Unicorn?

So, my local Non-Corporate Verizon store had a sale this weekend on the Tab S 8.4. I didn't even know this was available for Verizon. The only Tab S on the website is the 10.5 model.
So, searching the web, I have found a few sites listing this model, but not for sale anywhere.
It is SM-T707V. Looks like it has the snapdragon.
As for root or anything custom, will I be out of luck, since no one else has this model to test?
I attached a few images.
Thanks.

As for root, if their was a way to export a copy of your recover img and other stuff then someone can port root. But idk how to pull the files to get root. But your tab s is faster then exynos chipset

I'm about to have the same problem, I think. I'm getting mine from AT&T, and it's another T707. I'm getting the feeling that we'll be SOL when it comes to root, recovery, and roms. :crying:

potatomanwrl said:
I'm about to have the same problem, I think. I'm getting mine from AT&T, and it's another T707. I'm getting the feeling that we'll be SOL when it comes to root, recovery, and roms. :crying:
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I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.

docchaos said:
I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
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I just picked one up too. $99.
So we're out of luck for root?

StingK said:
I just picked one up too. $99.
So we're out of luck for root?
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If we can find a way to pull your recovery. Img and give it to chainfire or beanstown so they can port it. As of now no. I have no idea how to pull the recovery also. Not sure if twrp can work on your device? Is your bootloader locked?

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
If we can find a way to pull your recovery. Img and give it to chainfire or beanstown so they can port it. As of now no. I have no idea how to pull the recovery also. Not sure if twrp can work on your device? Is your bootloader locked?
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I have no idea how to check the bootloader.
If you can point me in a direction, I'll do what I can.
Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye on this forum.
Thanks

StingK said:
I have no idea how to check the bootloader.
If you can point me in a direction, I'll do what I can.
Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye on this forum.
Thanks
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Well turn off your device.
Now hold power, home, vol down till it saids warning you are about to install a custom os. Now just press the volup. If you can access that it should be unlock. Now to exit, now do power, home, vol down again and it should reboot.
I think there may be a way to root your model tablets unless the bootloader is unlocked.
My think was since twrp works on the 805 and 705 also, shouldnt that mean they should be the same for all versions of the tab s if the have the same chip? Because twrp was build for the tab s wifi devices but still worked on the lte devices. So what i thought is that they should work for the 807s with unlocked bootloaders the same way they did with the lte tab s. Then if they can get that installed all they need to do is flash supersu zip since cfautoroot does the same. Though this is jist a though but could get you guys root. Highly not recommned you try it thoufg. But just check if your bootloader is unlocked with what i told you and well see if the root method I thought of may start something. But twrp only works on eynos.... So.. Idk

I'd really just be happy with a working root method. A recovery would be nice, but not really necessary for me since there's not likely to be any development for these weird US lte variants.

docchaos said:
I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
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Hi, where did you find the T707v? I have looked almost everywhere.
The Galaxy Tab S 8.4 is available for other carriers, but I haven't found it for Verizon.
Thank you if you reply, Jeff

TCC Wireless - http://www2.ecellularconnection.com/
They are a non-corporate Verizon retailer. They seem to be the only ones carrying it.
It is an approved Verizon device, but not sold at Verizon corporate stores. ( I Guess )

Do you know if it is locked to Verizon and also has the LTE bands to work on AT&T?

dzeek said:
Do you know if it is locked to Verizon and also has the LTE bands to work on AT&T?
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Currently getting LTE using my T-Mobile sim. I'll check using an AT&T sim in the morning.

I have one too. Even without root for $100 I couldn't pass it up.

05GT said:
Currently getting LTE using my T-Mobile sim. I'll check using an AT&T sim in the morning.
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Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.

dzeek said:
Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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dzeek said:
Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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Answered my own question. Got one. Both Verizon and AT&T sim cards work.

Yes they do. I forgot to get on here and post an update. The bad boy is GSM unlocked with full LTE on the major carriers.

You guys all got unicorns (the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 with the Snapdragon). I wish I had seen this thread before I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 a few weeks ago. For some reason my Google Alert didn't pick it up.
I have 2 questions for those who bought the Verizon from TCC Wireless.
1) Was it $99 with a 2 year contract with Verizon or was it $99 straight up no contract?
2) What color is it, white or titanium bronze?
I'm a little disappointed that it only has the Snapdragon 800 instead of the 801 but either of them is better began the Exynos in the other versions.

Sam K said:
You guys all got unicorns (the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 with the Snapdragon). I wish I had seen this thread before I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 a few weeks ago. For some reason my Google Alert didn't pick it up.
I have 2 questions for those who bought the Verizon from TCC Wireless.
1) Was it $99 with a 2 year contract with Verizon or was it $99 straight up no contract?
2) What color is it, white or titanium bronze?
I'm a little disappointed that it only has the Snapdragon 800 instead of the 801 but either of them is better began the Exynos in the other versions.
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1. I don't know since I did not get mine from them.
2. I believe the Verizon model is only available in white.

Buying a US version of the S9 and using in the UK

Hi All,
I have my unlocked pre-order S9 sitting on my table here in London but have ended up needing to travel for work to Chicago this weekend.
The obvious thought that came to mind is - "can I buy one in the states, save the best part of £150 and use it back in the UK?". I thought that as they're quad-band or whatever they are that a US variant would still work fine - could anyone confirm if that is the case?
I spoke to a samsung helpdesk person and they said no but genuinely didn't sound like they knew what they were talking about...
Are there any other considerations that I should be taking in to account, e.g. Exynos vs Snapdragon? I've done a bunch of Googling but not come across anything definitive.
Thanks in advance folks.
Pete

Think you may not be able to as samsung region lock their phones
So you would have to put an America SIM in the phone whether you can change that after first activation I don't know
Also aren't the American bands different to the UK??
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mancuk29 said:
Think you may not be able to as samsung region lock their phones
So you would have to put an America SIM in the phone whether you can change that after first activation I don't know
Also aren't the American bands different to the UK??
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Thanks for getting back to me, looking at the S8 it appears that you could sort the region lock by placing a 5 minute phone call using a US carrier so that's something that I can do whilst I'm away.
The bands are different in the states vs here but that being said my UK phone works when I take it abroad. I thought that the fact that these are multi-band phones that they work elsewhere.
Pete

i had bought a S5 back in the day from the states and used it in india and it worked great(it was unlocked), you do however need to make a 5 min phone call after which you can use it elsewhere in the world.

Thanks! So I guess the remaining questions considerations are then:
Can I get the hybrid SIM version in the states?
Is having the Snapdragon vs Exynos going to impact anything?
Are there any other material differences that you guys would be thinking about?
I've done plenty of googling on this but there isn't too much useful stuff that I've come across.

1. yes, get the G960U or G965U (unless you mean dual sim in this case i dont know)
2. snapdragon has a faster gpu, slightly slower cpu, and locked bootloader so you can't flash custom roms...
3. Yep see 2 ;P
As someone in the US I'm ordering one from the UK just because of the bootloader.

Thanks pal! I'll open up my preorder that I have then!!

I don't believe dual sim is available in the US

CuBz90 said:
I don't believe dual sim is available in the US
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I think you are right. I spent a good chunk of time yesterday on the internet researching and could not seem to find anywhere that sold it.
I cracked my UK one open yesterday, very smart piece of kit although moving from an S8 there were no real surprises.
I popped my work SIM in alongside my personal one to see how it all works, the dual SIM functionality is really really good. Very impressed with the way that it works, gives 2 whatsapps, etc. Would definitely recommend.
Thanks to everyone that responded and helped.

SM-N975U1 - OEM Unlocking missing - still within 7 days.

Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?

BadBoy2K7 said:
Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).

Exynos equals root.

carandcar said:
Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
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For realsies? none of the "U" Variant... So I cant root my note 10+ SM-N975U? Dang that really grinds my gears!!!!!!!!
Leave it to samsung to figure out a new way to keep people from rooting their phones... "Hey lets get rid of the OEM unlock toggle, that way they cant unlock the bootloader and root their phone, and will have to keep all the bloatware we, and their carrier, force down their throats against their will, whether they want to or not."
I knew I never should have bought this phone. I swore 6 years ago I would never own another Samsung Device, but then they came out with this cool new phone and I wanted it so bad. I should have just waited until the pixel 4 XL came out and bought it instead.
Guess I'll Know better next time around at least, and by the time I need a new phone hopefully all phones will have the inscreen ultrasonic fingerprint reader.
I HATE YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!

1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/

SD=Snapdragon, the SoC of the N975U/N975U1 phones. Those devices for US market have the locked bootloader.
The models with Exynos SoC (Samsung's own SoC), in models of most international markets N975F have working OEM unlock option and thereby unlockable bootloader.
Why would Samsung provide unlockable bootloader for one part of the world, but not for US where phones have US SoC (I.c. Snapdragon)? You tell me...
Maybe you can join this club: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/bounty-sm-n975u1-note-10-usa-unlocked-t4006249

gkennedy88 said:
What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
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lol they sure get a lot of clicks with that fake news

try setting a lock. i've had this same issue and thats what worked for me. Although when i unlock and root, it factory reset which sucked.

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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Well why not do a oneplus/google thing where unlocked versions have unlockable bootloaders while carrier versions don't?

Note 10+ Snapdragon
It is a nice device stock, after flashing the N975U1 firmware with ODIN, and disabling (at least), about 150 system-apps with ADB, it is fast and efficient.
I can't imagine how nice the Note 10+ would be with administrative rights.

Galaxy Fold unlocked by Samsung version.

Guys if i bought from US (Best Buy) unlocked by Samsung Galaxy Fold and i don't getting OEM unlock in Dev settings. (I researched some tutorials how to unlock by skipping the time etc, but still no luck)
So is that mean US versions of galaxy fold Bootloader is locked ?

Samsung phones sold in the US haven't had an unlock-able bootloader since the S6 unfortunately

unknownbeing said:
Samsung phones sold in the US haven't had an unlock-able bootloader since the S6 unfortunately
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Oh maan....if i knew that. So what's the point of US unlock version....damn Samsung. I can get chipper carrier version and unlock sim online for 30$. Now im think to get international version.

avetny said:
Now im think to get international version.
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Do you really want to buy a $2K phone with potential durability issues that has no warranty and no U.S. support? I have a Spanish Tab S6 LTE so know about life with grey market devices but I wouldn't even think of buying a Fold that way. In fact, I bought my Fold via AT&T Next for the sole reason that I only have to keep it for a year and won't have to worry about how it ages or its resale value. I've always bought outright from Samsung as each new generation of phone launched but not this time and not with a phone who's resale desirability and value is going to be a giant question mark.

BarryH_GEG said:
Do you really want to buy a $2K phone with potential durability issues that has no warranty and no U.S. support? I have a Spanish Tab S6 LTE so know about life with grey market devices but I wouldn't even think of buying a Fold that way. In fact, I bought my Fold via AT&T Next for the sole reason that I only have to keep it for a year and won't have to worry about how it ages or its resale value. I've always bought outright from Samsung as each new generation of phone launched but not this time and not with a phone who's resale desirability and value is going to be a giant question mark.
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I changing phone every 2-3 months. You don't remember me ? First galaxy note? Because i remember you
I got space silver US unlocked. Thinking to sell it and get space black international (even if 5G is useles). Android without root it's a gym without weights...getting boring.
Did u try new build ASJ4? New kernel is kicking so hard over there. A lot of stuff fixed.

Korean Fold (SM-F907N) in Canada?

I guess I should have asked this before, lol, but I just purchased a Korean Fold mode SM-F907N which is supposedly unlocked. It's supposed to be the 5G version but we don't quite have that here so I am not worried about that. I am just wondering if regular LTE etc will work?
I purchased the Canadian Fold when it first came out and ended up returning it within the 2 week period as I was super paranoid about its longevity. However, I've been kicking myself since then. Purchased the Z Flip a couple weeks ago and it just wasn't cutting it...not the same.
Called around at Samsung store to see if I could buy the Fold again but I was told that they are not longer going to be getting them, even though Samsung online told me that I should be able to get them locally. Anyway, got frustrated and ordered a Korean version on eBay and just want to make sure everything will be good as I guess I still have likely a few hours to cancel the order if need be.
Thanks everyone.

It works perfectly in Vietnam with the LTE so it should be ok in your country!!! Mine is brand new and unlocked!!!

tudo1994 said:
It works perfectly in Vietnam with the LTE so it should be ok in your country!!! Mine is brand new and unlocked!!!
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Great, thanks very much for your response. I just wasn't sure about what bands my carriers use in Canada vs what they use in Korea etc. But glad to see it shouldn't be an issue. Just waiting for it to be shipped now!

Glad I'm not the only one, sold my SM-F900F and went back to my Note 10 Plus for Android 10 and miss the Fold ever since. Just got a Canadian SM-F900W variant and will be using it daily again! I'm sure the SM-F907N variant will have all the bands for use in Canada, but LTE icon will be shown as 4G.

lexi250 said:
Glad I'm not the only one, sold my SM-F900F and went back to my Note 10 Plus for Android 10 and miss the Fold ever since. Just got a Canadian SM-F900W variant and will be using it daily again! I'm sure the SM-F907N variant will have all the bands for use in Canada, but LTE icon will be shown as 4G.
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I find it strange that Sam Mobile doesn't have any Canadian firmwares for the fold.

lexi250 said:
Glad I'm not the only one, sold my SM-F900F and went back to my Note 10 Plus for Android 10 and miss the Fold ever since. Just got a Canadian SM-F900W variant and will be using it daily again! I'm sure the SM-F907N variant will have all the bands for use in Canada, but LTE icon will be shown as 4G.
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Oh that's good to know, thanks for mentioning. Otherwise I would have always thought that I am not getting LTE.

SM-F907N in US
phone_fanatic said:
I guess I should have asked this before, lol, but I just purchased a Korean Fold mode SM-F907N which is supposedly unlocked. It's supposed to be the 5G version but we don't quite have that here so I am not worried about that. I am just wondering if regular LTE etc will work?
I purchased the Canadian Fold when it first came out and ended up returning it within the 2 week period as I was super paranoid about its longevity. However, I've been kicking myself since then. Purchased the Z Flip a couple weeks ago and it just wasn't cutting it...not the same.
Called around at Samsung store to see if I could buy the Fold again but I was told that they are not longer going to be getting them, even though Samsung online told me that I should be able to get them locally. Anyway, got frustrated and ordered a Korean version on eBay and just want to make sure everything will be good as I guess I still have likely a few hours to cancel the order if need be.
Thanks everyone.
I have been using SM-F907N since November 2019. Samsung Pay does not work in the US. It looks for a SIM from Korea! I use Android pay instead. I got security updates and got Android 10 a few days ago. Everything else seems to work OK. The screen has been doing fine although there are some fine scratches and the "fold". They don't interfere with viewing. The max screen resolution could be higher. I hope this helps.
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just Samsung members is my issues
samsung predefined apps comes in Korean like pay, members and all I just wanted to be for India or at least in English - any way around,
hmc4hotels said:
phone_fanatic said:
I guess I should have asked this before, lol, but I just purchased a Korean Fold mode SM-F907N which is supposedly unlocked. It's supposed to be the 5G version but we don't quite have that here so I am not worried about that. I am just wondering if regular LTE etc will work?
I purchased the Canadian Fold when it first came out and ended up returning it within the 2 week period as I was super paranoid about its longevity. However, I've been kicking myself since then. Purchased the Z Flip a couple weeks ago and it just wasn't cutting it...not the same.
Called around at Samsung store to see if I could buy the Fold again but I was told that they are not longer going to be getting them, even though Samsung online told me that I should be able to get them locally. Anyway, got frustrated and ordered a Korean version on eBay and just want to make sure everything will be good as I guess I still have likely a few hours to cancel the order if need be.
Thanks everyone.
I have been using SM-F907N since November 2019. Samsung Pay does not work in the US. It looks for a SIM from Korea! I use Android pay instead. I got security updates and got Android 10 a few days ago. Everything else seems to work OK. The screen has been doing fine although there are some fine scratches and the "fold". They don't interfere with viewing. The max screen resolution could be higher. I hope this helps.
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Hey there,
You probably got your phone by now lol I only recently purchased the Korean variant of the Fold. It works perfectly and I get the LTE icon on the Telus network