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I have recently rooted, installed CWM & CM10.1 -- The problem I have is now my internal SD is close to being full, but I havent installed anything on it yet besides a couple apps and some pictures.. Total Internal memory was 16GB.
When I go to Setting > Storage - its shows I have 12.5 GB of total space, but only about 1 GB available.. It shows apps and other things on the phone such as - APS 293MB, Pictures 550MB etc.. But added up it only amounts to maybe 3GB.. So I seem to be missing 13GB of space..
What I think may have happened (and I dont know how to fix) is.... Is it possible that I did the back up of my stock rom & titanium back ups etc.. all onto my internal SD card ? I didnt back anything up to an external drive or my PC, becasue the instructions I followed did tell to do that, nor how to do that.
So if that is the case I would like to extract those file from the SD card on my phone to creat some more room ?
Thanks.
Even if you did backup everything to the internal sd, a cwm backup is usually about a gig and I have 100 and change titanium backups and it also takes up about w gig so I don't think that is the problem. You should be able to hook it up to your PC and check the folder sizes on your SD card. You can also move the clockwork mod folder and TB folders to your external sd but you will need to set up the new location in TB's preference s option. If all else fails backup everything and copy all pics vids downloads and everything else you want to your PC or external SD, and wipe everything from your phones settings menu. This will wipe all data and game data too so be careful to get everything off it you want. Oh yea, make sure you have sync'd or backup up your contacts. That's a pain in the ass.
I had a problem like that when I first got my s3 last year and for me it was 2 files in the lost folder that were like 5 gigs each
hmmm......
Would it have anything to do with when after I rooted and was installing CWM and the new ROM.. It said for me to back up and save my old original ROM/configuration.. Which I did select back up.. But I didnt save it to my PC, I believe it just saved to my phone somewhere.. If I may need that someday I should likely save it correct ? Can someone give me an idea how to access those files so I can transfer off my phone ?
Maybe that is the problem ?
I don't recall ever seeing that option but it was awhile ago. You could try grabbing a root explorer and look around for a large folder. Es file manager for example. I kept my stock backup for awhile but never needed it. You can always find a stock image to reflash with Odin but I'm paranoid and keep at least one cwm backup in case. You could reflash the ROM you put on when you rooted and choose not to select backup this time. It will clear the phone so as above be sure to transfer or save anything you want. Get a little bit used to the process of backing up apps and reinstalling them when you switch roms cause these devs are awesome and always have new features to try. It goes pretty quick after you do it a thousand times. What ROM are you currently using?
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There is a free app called storage analyser in the play store. I didn't try it but it looks like it will break down what is stored and where. Could help in this situation. Your internal SD should pop up on the computer so if the problem is in there you shouldn't need a root explorer to find that. If its not in there maybe to a cwm backup to external sd and flash something new.
robberrobbie said:
Would it have anything to do with when after I rooted and was installing CWM and the new ROM.. It said for me to back up and save my old original ROM/configuration.. Which I did select back up.. But I didnt save it to my PC, I believe it just saved to my phone somewhere.. If I may need that someday I should likely save it correct ? Can someone give me an idea how to access those files so I can transfer off my phone ?
Maybe that is the problem ?
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what program did you use to flash the ROM? how many times have you flashed a ROM (specifically 4.2.2 ROM)?
xBeerdroiDx said:
what program did you use to flash the ROM? how many times have you flashed a ROM (specifically 4.2.2 ROM)?
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I have only flashed once.. Using a tutorial from XDA, I rooted using ODIN, I installed CWM v6.0.3.0. followed by flahsing CM10.1 Rom. (10.1 -20130414-nightly-d2att)
During the tutorial it said I should back up my existing stock ROM incase I ever want to go back, so from CWM I seleced back up/restore then selected back up. It didnt tell me how to find this file and save to my PC or somewhere safe.. so is it possible that there are a bunch of files still on my S3 that I cannot see from just plugging it into my pc ?
I would really like to do this properly and remove everything from my S3 and just start with a fresh ROM again.. and know that what I need to have backed up was done properly onto my PC or somewhere other than my phones SD card. pls help = )
I just remembered a problem I ran into while performing the above steps.. I dont know exactly what happened but I think the version of CWM may have been old.. so I tried to update or install a newer version (followed another tutorial) is there a change there is the old version still on SD card ?
Do you have a micro sd card? This would allow you to completely wipe the device and install your OS
xBeerdroiDx said:
Do you have a micro sd card? This would allow you to completely wipe the device and install your OS
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Yes I do have one I can install. (2GB) would you be able give me a list of the steps on how to do this properly ? (or link to a post that does)
Also, I do find I ejoy the CM10.1, is the verion I have one that I should be running or is there a standard version ?
If you enjoy cm10, stick with it. I'm on tasks 4/23 release and its running beautifully
Place the rom and gapps on the sd card, get what you want off the phone and you should be all set.
Check out the link in my signature for more information on flashing. when you format /system, also format /data + media.
Before you begin, go in rom manager and update your cwm recovery. Latest is 6.0.3.1. Or download the one at the bottom of post #2 in my signature link and flash it in cwm (then advanced > reboot recovery to have it take effect before flashing the rom).
Keep me posted
xBeerdroiDx said:
If you enjoy cm10, stick with it. I'm on tasks 4/23 release and its running beautifully
Place the rom and gapps on the sd card, get what you want off the phone and you should be all set.
Check out the link in my signature for more information on flashing. when you format /system, also format /data + media.
Before you begin, go in rom manager and update your cwm recovery. Latest is 6.0.3.1. Or download the one at the bottom of post #2 in my signature link and flash it in cwm (then advanced > reboot recovery to have it take effect before flashing the rom).
Keep me posted
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Ok, I got CWM updated to 6.0.3.1, I backed up apps with TB and saved file to ext SD and got all my pics/vids transferred as well.. Now I just have a couple questions.
1) When I originally backed up my stock ROM in CWM it would have saved to my phones internal SD correct ? Because I could never find it. I just did a back up again and I plug phone into PC and cant find that one either ? Where would the be going ?
2) Can you link me to a good version of CM10.1 for my model as well as the proper google apps.. I cannot locate.
Thanks.
If you backed up to your internal sd card then the location should be something like storage/titaniumBackup. Inside that folder would be an oddly dated folder with all the contents. Transfer that to your computer as well.
Cm10 and the respective gapps are in the original android development section. You can also find their stable and nightly releases on their website. Be sure to only use the ROMs for your device model
xBeerdroiDx said:
If you backed up to your internal sd card then the location should be something like storage/titaniumBackup. Inside that folder would be an oddly dated folder with all the contents. Transfer that to your computer as well.
Cm10 and the respective gapps are in the original android development section. You can also find their stable and nightly releases on their website. Be sure to only use the ROMs for your device model
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Ok I just installed new ROM and now its worse, now I have less internal room.
Here are the steps I have followed.. (obviously its not wiping my entire internal SD right ?)
- Wipe Data / Factory Reset
- Wipe Cache Partition
- Advanced --> Wipe Dalvik Cache
- Mounts / Storage - Format System
- Install Zip from SD --> CM10 file.
Once phone boots up, I go to Settings --> Storage - Here it says I have only 2.6GB of space available and I have absolutely nothing on my phone yet, fresh install.
Am I missing a step ?
Thanks.
You didn't format /data + media like I said.
xBeerdroiDx said:
You didn't format /data + media like I said.
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Ok great that worked.. To to get everything working back the way it was...
robberrobbie said:
1) When I originally backed up my stock ROM in CWM it would have saved to my phones internal SD correct ? Because I could never find it. I just did a back up again and I plug phone into PC and cant find that one either ? Where would the be going ?
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robberrobbie said:
Here are the steps I have followed.. (obviously its not wiping my entire internal SD right ?)
- Wipe Data / Factory Reset
- Wipe Cache Partition
- Advanced --> Wipe Dalvik Cache
- Mounts / Storage - Format System
- Install Zip from SD --> CM10 file.
Once phone boots up, I go to Settings --> Storage - Here it says I have only 2.6GB of space available and I have absolutely nothing on my phone yet, fresh install.
Am I missing a step ?
Thanks.
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Nevermind. Too late to respond.
This should help anyone who keeps having flashing issues.
THIS IS ONE QUICK/SIMPLE ERROR FREE ROM FLASHING PROCEDURE
Here is my quick rom flashing process I use ALWAYS (yes always)
THINGS YOU NEED ON SDCARD
1. Extra kernels (2 or 3 you know works for your device)
2. Optional: 2 recoveries that can be flashed (I use CWM & TWRP)
3. Optional: apps.zip (a zip created from Titantium BU, containing Root Explorer, TU Backup, Quickpic, ES File Explorer and Terminal Emulator)(OR WHATEVER YOU USE)
apps.zip not included. Create your own.
Flashing the rom:
1. Backup current rom (to the sdcard)
2. Complete wipe, (I do complete, some people do not) Complete = No Issues
[FACTORY RESET + CLEAR CACHE + CLEAR DALVIK CACHE + CLEAR SYSTEM]
3. Flash the rom
4. [TW roms this step is not needed] Flash gapps for aosp roms if applicable.
5. Boot the rom.
FINISHED!!!! SUCCESS!!!
Total time to flash a rom:
7-10min
Errors - NONE
TIPS:
I am in no way responsible for anything that may do damage to any device - Use these tips at your own risk - period!
If you found this useful in any way, please hit the THANKS button for my effort.
Reserved
You may want to add that if you're flashing a 4.2.2 barred rom, you will need to upgrade to the latest bootloader (MD4)
Also, what do you mean "both recoveries are compatible with each other"? Some may take that to mean that the same backups can be restored on either one, which is not true.
The Thanks button is just to avoid "THANKS" posts in threads. Nothing more. Don't defeat the purpose of why it was introduced.
Agreed
TheAxman said:
2. Complete wipe, (I do complete, some people do not) Complete = No Issues
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You may want to really define what you mean by " Complete Wipe " . At least in the way you mean it. For me a " FULL Wipe " means : System - Data - Dalvik Cache - Cache - Factory Reset - Internal SD. For others it may mean something different.
prboy1969 said:
You may want to really define what you mean by " Complete Wipe " . At least in the way you mean it. For me a " FULL Wipe " means : System - Data - Dalvik Cache - Cache - Factory Reset - Internal SD. For others it may mean something different.
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Will do, thanks.
EDIT: How about now, I actually wrote this for the G4, but saw it useful in the G3, because I still own one. Missed a few items.
TheAxman said:
Will do, thanks.
EDIT: How about now, I actually wrote this for the G4, but saw it useful in the G3, because I still own one. Missed a few items.
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You accidentally put "clear data" instead of "clear system"
The Thanks button is just to avoid "THANKS" posts in threads. Nothing more. Don't defeat the purpose of why it was introduced.
[updated: 07-12-2013]
Hi,
I'm new here and I'd like to install a new ROM on my Gio but I want to make sure I know what I'm doing before trying something and bricking my phone. :angel:
ClockWorkMod
I installed CWM v5.2.0.6 (followed the instructions here). Is this ok, or do I need to install v5.0.2.7? And if I do need a newer version, is there a way to get an update or do I have to follow the same steps as before?
1.Download the CWM 5.0 v2 and copy to the Root (not in any folder) of your SD card
2. Put your phone in recovery Mode(press: Home button + Power button toghether)
3. In recovery mode, select the downloaded file from SD-card(Use Volume keys to navigate and home button for enter).
4. Search for the root gb updated.zip file on your SD-card
5. Run the update
6. Reboot
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I tried creating a backup with the CWM version I have, but I get this error: "Can't mount /system".
CWM does create a folder in sdcard/ clockworkmod/ backup/ date, but it only contains the following files:
recovery.img and boot.img.
However, this post says I should actually have more files in the backup folder:
.android_secure.vfat.tar ,boot.img , cache.ext4.tar , data.ext4.tar , nandroid.md5 , recovery.img, system.ext4.tar.
Is this because of my CWM version? Or maybe because I still have the operating system that came with my device (+updates)?
What I really want to know is: can I rely on this backup, will it work?
ROMs
I want to install CM10.1.5 from here, but I have many questions and I don't really know where to look for answers. (Sorry, I really am a complete noob.)
What's the difference between androidarmv6 jenkins build and mardon build? And what's the difference between the 3 versions? Can I just install the Version with CM-Superuser and not worry about it?
Should the updates be installed via CWM - apply update from SDcard? What about the additions - CWM --> install zip from SDcard?
How can I install extras if they are "not CWM flashable"?
What happens to my apps when I install a new ROM? Do I have to install them all again? Is all data lost? Or will they all be restored from my google account and the SD card or something like that?
Finally, how can I use the ext2 partition in my SDcard to install apps? Is this function included in the ROM? Or do I need to install something else? a2sd darktremor? If yes, how (I find the instructions here confusing and overwhelming, and the post is old, so probably outdated)? Or should I use the "Link2SD" addition to the ROM?
I'm sorry for asking so much, but I'm feeling kind of lost.
Thanks in advance.
Anyone?
I've continued trying to figure things out when I have time. I'll post what I find in this thread, in case someone else comes here looking for answers to similar doubts/problems.
In trying to understand what's going on with ClockWorkMod Recovery, I found this very useful link:
wwwDOTtechbiiDOTcom / cwm-recovery-cant-mount-system-error-solution-how-to/
(sorry for the DOTs and spaces, can't post outside links yet)
CWM Recovery – Can’t Mount System Error Solution [How To]
(...)
The error is an expected one and happens generally when you are trying to backup a stock ROM using the clock work mod recovery. Please, note that you can’t do a completed nandroid backup of a stock firmwares. So, just install any custom ROM and then you can backup and restore anytime.
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If I understood correctly, the best (only?) way to return to stock ROM is to install Odin or similar firmware flashing tool and to get the stock firmware from sites like sammobile.com and sampro.pl. However, it also says that not all firmwares might be available and I haven't looked more into it all of this yet.
Did you root your phone yet?
That should solve the problem from the can't mount system, data, etc
If you need more information, then look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397120
HerroYou said:
Did you root your phone yet?
That should solve the problem from the can't mount system, data, etc
If you need more information, then look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397120
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Yes, I used the instructions there to root my phone and install CWM (v5.0.2.6), but that thread is 2 years old, so I'm afraid it won't be up to date in relation to certain things. For example, I did create an ext2 partition on my SD card using those instructions, but I found an easier way to move apps from my phone to the SDcard (using the link2SD app, available on Google Play). The information about ROMs is also not up to date.
If you want to install a custom rom just
-wipe data factory reset
-wipe cache partition
-advance>wipe dalvik cache
-install zip from sdcard
-reboot
NOTE: the zip is the rom
HerroYou said:
If you want to install a custom rom just
-wipe data factory reset
-wipe cache partition
-advance>wipe dalvik cache
-install zip from sdcard
-reboot
NOTE: the zip is the rom
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Thank you.
My main concern at the moment is how to restore my original ROM if something should go wrong, though. I've found some interesting information in this thread but I've been busy this week and I'll need to go back and read it all with more attention before I try something.
Download ODIN 4.42 and GIO ops and a sotckrom MD5 file then put it into the odin and put your phone into recovery mdoe and plug it into your computer. Then click start
you have to put your phone in downloadmode to flash with odin as far as i know,but i have an other question;
can you use heimdall with the samsung galaxy gio
I am trying to flash a new recovery on my samsung galaxy gio with ODIN after it is bricked flashing tass- 6.0.4.5.zip(this cwm seems for the mini!!!) is this possible and if so,which one can?and how to do that...
thanks in advance
Yes it is possible and you need ODIN 4.42, GiPS and a Stock Rom extracted out of the zip.
Here is a video to help you because I am too lazy to explain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZqtaAMe5c
Hi,
I have i747 that has a clockworkmod recovery. How do I erase as much as possible of everything so that my phone is as clean as possible before I install a new ROM on galaxy s3?
I tried to factory reset phone, did all the 'delete/erase' options within clockworkmod recovery (except advanced section) and yet I see some residual folders from the previous installation. is there a way to completely erase wipe out everything without bricking the phone?
Thanks!
user-747 said:
Hi,
I have i747 that has a clockworkmod recovery. How do I erase as much as possible of everything so that my phone is as clean as possible before I install a new ROM on galaxy s3?
I tried to factory reset phone, did all the 'delete/erase' options within clockworkmod recovery (except advanced section) and yet I see some residual folders from the previous installation. is there a way to completely erase wipe out everything without bricking the phone?
Thanks!
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You should really flash TWRP recovery before proceeding. CWM hasn't been maintained or updated in a long time. It is likely to give you problems flashing anything new.
To completely blank a phone in TWRP I use Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> Dalvik, Cache, System, Data. Followed by Wipe -> Format Data then type "yes" to confirm; always a good idea if you're switching between Touchwiz and AOSP in particular. That will leave you with totally blank internal storage. You'll have to flash a ROM from an external SD, or load a ROM zip over USB while booted in recovery because internal storage will be wiped clean.
It might be a good idea to look into what bootloader and modem you're running too. If you're still using CWM, you might be on pretty old firmware that isn't going to work right with newer roms. Just don't start flashing bootloaders/modems willy-nilly. Samsung made this phone kind of easy to hard brick on the newer firmwares. There's a right way to update it, if you find you have to.
jason2678 said:
You should really flash TWRP recovery before proceeding. CWM hasn't been maintained or updated in a long time. It is likely to give you problems flashing anything new.
To completely blank a phone in TWRP I use Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> Dalvik, Cache, System, Data. Followed by Wipe -> Format Data then type "yes" to confirm; always a good idea if you're switching between Touchwiz and AOSP in particular. That will leave you with totally blank internal storage. You'll have to flash a ROM from an external SD, or load a ROM zip over USB while booted in recovery because internal storage will be wiped clean.
It might be a good idea to look into what bootloader and modem you're running too. If you're still using CWM, you might be on pretty old firmware that isn't going to work right with newer roms. Just don't start flashing bootloaders/modems willy-nilly. Samsung made this phone kind of easy to hard brick on the newer firmwares. There's a right way to update it, if you find you have to.
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Thanks so much for providing such a detailed answer!! You make many very good points!!
Just to reflect on those...
1) Yes, CWM recovery has not been updated for about 2-3 years. I have 6.0.4.7 version. Where do I check how stale it really is? I tried googling for CWM recovery and saw tons of links with everyone talking about CWM but ZERO sites with actual CWM .zip or .img file
2) I did 'adb bugreport' and was able to find information on my bootloader and a modem:
Bootloader: I747UCUEMJB
Radio: I747UCUEMJB
I am not too sure for what I would need to use this information for though
3) when completely blanking the phone (doing all those wipe/erase actions you mentioned), would that erase the recovery as well or is recovery is kept on a some other partition that never gets touched
4) When installing TWRP over CWM, would TWRP override CWM or install side to side along with CWM?
Thanks!
The will need to run an updated bootloader and modem before installing the latest custom roms.
user-747 said:
2) I did 'adb bugreport' and was able to find information on my bootloader and a modem:
Bootloader: I747UCUEMJB
Radio: I747UCUEMJB
I am not too sure for what I would need to use this information for though
3) when completely blanking the phone (doing all those wipe/erase actions you mentioned), would that erase the recovery as well or is recovery is kept on a some other partition that never gets touched
4) When installing TWRP over CWM, would TWRP override CWM or install side to side along with CWM?
Thanks!
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3 - Those wipes will just blank /system, /data and other partitions that would affect a rom. More critical areas like bootloader, modem, and recovery will remain untouched and intact.
4 - TWRP will overwrite CWM in the /recovery partition. They can't coexist.
2 - If you're comfortable with Odin, this thread might be the easiest and safest way to get updated. The Odin tar will get you up to NE4 firmware that should work with all the newest roms. Before modding, you could check for updates a few times in that stock rom. There should be two, one from NE4 to NJ1, and one NJ1 to NJ2. NJ2 is the newest and almost certainly last update for the i747.
If you don't like using Odin, there are recovery flashable zips to update the firmware for i747 too. You just have to be very careful how you go about it or you can brick the phone.
audit13 said:
The will need to run an updated bootloader and modem before installing the latest custom roms.
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I was able to install the most recent octos just a few days ago with my stale configuration: old bootloader and old cwm recovery. My phone i747 currently has nougat.
When you speak of 'latest roms' what exactly do you have in mind?
jason2678 said:
3 - Those wipes will just blank /system, /data and other partitions that would affect a rom. More critical areas like bootloader, modem, and recovery will remain untouched and intact.
4 - TWRP will overwrite CWM in the /recovery partition. They can't coexist.
2 - If you're comfortable with Odin, this thread might be the easiest and safest way to get updated. The Odin tar will get you up to NE4 firmware that should work with all the newest roms. Before modding, you could check for updates a few times in that stock rom. There should be two, one from NE4 to NJ1, and one NJ1 to NJ2. NJ2 is the newest and almost certainly last update for the i747.
If you don't like using Odin, there are recovery flashable zips to update the firmware for i747 too. You just have to be very careful how you go about it or you can brick the phone.
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I am actually quite familiar with Odin. I used to root i747 with it. Then I wanted to update to the latest official rom and ironically soft-bricked the phone to the point where it was dead...nothing worked at all. If I remember correctly I wrote i9305 Rom to i747 phone. Then I found out that during boot the phone internally still scans through sd card and was able to take advantage of that to install recovery and consequently cyanogenmod os. I remember tons of Adb done. Since then the phone regained all functionality and now works very smooth with freshly installed octos. However, I see I am missing some hard drive space ie unusually large usage by octos. This makes me wonder if the 'bad original partition + bootloader +modem' are still in there but not invoked for some reason and the explanation behind my what appears to be successful installs is working os, etc are written to a separate partition which is now invoked. Is this hypothesis legit or not real? Is it at all possible that my cwm somehow is installed on a partition that is delete-able or that cannot be a possibility and all recovery goes into write-protected space?
And while we are in this topic, what are the obvious advantages of a newer boot loader if I can still install whatever custom roms?
user-747 said:
I was able to install the most recent octos just a few days ago with my stale configuration: old bootloader and old cwm recovery. My phone i747 currently has nougat.
When you speak of 'latest roms' what exactly do you have in mind?
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Sometimes, a phone will not display the correct imei with the latest custom ROM unless the phone is running the most recent bootloader and modem for the particular phone.
audit13 said:
Sometimes, a phone will not display the correct imei with the latest custom ROM unless the phone is running the most recent bootloader and modem for the particular phone.
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Thanks! Good to know.
I think this phone only has a 12 GB data partition. About 1.5 GB is reserved for /system, another 1 GB for /cache, and there are a host of other partitions. That's some of your used space. The rest could be cruft from old installs left over in userdata that a standard wipe of /data didn't get unless you format internal storage.
If what you have is working for you, then I wouldn't touch bootloader and modem.
jason2678 said:
You should really flash TWRP recovery before proceeding. CWM hasn't been maintained or updated in a long time. It is likely to give you problems flashing anything new.
To completely blank a phone in TWRP I use Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> Dalvik, Cache, System, Data. Followed by Wipe -> Format Data then type "yes" to confirm; always a good idea if you're switching between Touchwiz and AOSP in particular. That will leave you with totally blank internal storage. You'll have to flash a ROM from an external SD, or load a ROM zip over USB while booted in recovery because internal storage will be wiped clean.
It might be a good idea to look into what bootloader and modem you're running too. If you're still using CWM, you might be on pretty old firmware that isn't going to work right with newer roms. Just don't start flashing bootloaders/modems willy-nilly. Samsung made this phone kind of easy to hard brick on the newer firmwares. There's a right way to update it, if you find you have to.
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jason2678 said:
I think this phone only has a 12 GB data partition. About 1.5 GB is reserved for /system, another 1 GB for /cache, and there are a host of other partitions. That's some of your used space. The rest could be cruft from old installs left over in userdata that a standard wipe of /data didn't get unless you format internal storage.
If what you have is working for you, then I wouldn't touch bootloader and modem.
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Thanks for the insight!
I went ahead and updated by recovery to TWRP via Odin just a few minutes ago...
I see Under Advanced Wipe another option for Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> Internal Storage. Should I also wipe out internal storage? What is it for anyway? Whats the difference between 'internal storage' and 'system'?
user-747 said:
Thanks for the insight!
I went ahead and updated by recovery to TWRP via Odin just a few minutes ago...
I see Under Advanced Wipe another option for Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> Internal Storage. Should I also wipe out internal storage? What is it for anyway? Whats the difference between 'internal storage' and 'system'?
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Honestly I'm not 100% sure what the Internal Storage wipe does under Advanced Wipe, and I don't feel like making then restoring a backup right now just to test it . I never use it. If I had to guess, I bet it wipes /data and possibly a few other partitions without preserving user files in /data/media/0, see below, but don't know that. It certainly won't blank the whole internal storage; some areas like recovery, modem, and aboot are far too important and won't be touched.
Here's what I can tell you. Doing Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> system, data, cache, dalvik is typically good enough for flashing a new rom (switching from Touchwiz to AOSP can require some additional care), some would even say overkill the way rom installers are scripted today, but old habits die hard. However, Advanced Wipe -> Data will wipe /data without wiping /data/media. Since android got multi-user support, files reported to be in /sdcard are actually stored in /data/media/0 for the primary user, so that means that downloads, pictures, user app files and things like that can be left behind by just wiping data since /data/media is left untouched. It is useful if you don't want to shuffle your files off then back on the device to flash something new or if you're using a device without an external SD and have a rom zip stored on device in /sdcard, but it leaves stuff behind if you're looking for a clean start.
To completely blank /data pick Wipe -> Format Data and TWRP will format /data and leave nothing behind, not even /data/media like the normal Advanced Wipe -> Data preserves. Just make sure you're prepared for the phone storage to be blank. You'll have to flash from external SD or push files from a computer over usb. TWRP does automatically start up mtp and adb shortly after booting if you need to push files over usb.
/system is a partition of special reserved space just for the rom and system apps and not user files. It is usually mounted read only when booted up normally to keep us from messing anything important up. I hope this helps and doesn't just muddy the waters more.
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Honestly I'm not 100% sure what the Internal Storage wipe does under Advanced Wipe, and I don't feel like making then restoring a backup right now just to test it . I never use it. If I had to guess, I bet it wipes /data and possibly a few other partitions without preserving user files in /data/media/0, see below, but don't know that. It certainly won't blank the whole internal storage; some areas like recovery, modem, and aboot are far too important and won't be touched.
Here's what I can tell you. Doing Wipe -> Advanced Wipe -> system, data, cache, dalvik is typically good enough for flashing a new rom (switching from Touchwiz to AOSP can require some additional care), some would even say overkill the way rom installers are scripted today, but old habits die hard. However, Advanced Wipe -> Data will wipe /data without wiping /data/media. Since android got multi-user support, files reported to be in /sdcard are actually stored in /data/media/0 for the primary user, so that means that downloads, pictures, user app files and things like that can be left behind by just wiping data since /data/media is left untouched. It is useful if you don't want to shuffle your files off then back on the device to flash something new or if you're using a device without an external SD and have a rom zip stored on device in /sdcard, but it leaves stuff behind if you're looking for a clean start.
To completely blank /data pick Wipe -> Format Data and TWRP will format /data and leave nothing behind, not even /data/media like the normal Advanced Wipe -> Data preserves. Just make sure you're prepared for the phone storage to be blank. You'll have to flash from external SD or push files from a computer over usb. TWRP does automatically start up mtp and adb shortly after booting if you need to push files over usb.
/system is a partition of special reserved space just for the rom and system apps and not user files. It is usually mounted read only when booted up normally to keep us from messing anything important up. I hope this helps and doesn't just muddy the waters more.
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Thanks!
I will try to do wipe and reinstall Rom tonight and will update this thread. While we are in this topic, when flashing twrp via Odin in phone's download mode, I noticed that it says: Qualcomm secureboot: enabled. Does this mean my bootloader is locked?
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Thanks!
I will try to do wipe and reinstall Rom tonight and will update this thread. While we are in this topic, when flashing twrp via Odin in phone's download mode, I noticed that it says: Qualcomm secureboot: enabled. Does this mean my bootloader is locked?
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No, the i747 never had a locked bootloader. You couldn't boot unsigned stuff like CWM, TWRP, or octos if it did.
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No, the i747 never had a locked bootloader. You couldn't boot unsigned stuff like CWM, TWRP, or octos if it did.
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Thanks!
user-747 said:
Thanks!
I will try to do wipe and reinstall Rom tonight and will update this thread. While we are in this topic, when flashing twrp via Odin in phone's download mode, I noticed that it says: Qualcomm secureboot: enabled. Does this mean my bootloader is locked?
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I went ahead and did all the wipes and formats you recommend and all worked like a charm. OctOs installed like a charm, my disk space is regained, gapps are working, IMEI is good. so far I cannt find anyting that does not work. Thank you @jason2678 for your valuable feedback on my questions!!
I was attempting to install the Begonia Recovery Project for Miui 12.5 (android 11) using the fastboot method. But when I reboot into this new recovery and look inisde the "install" tab, all my folders from my main storage are made up of random letters and numbers.
I assume that this means that my files are still encrypted but I am not sure how to decrypt them.
I am running MIUI 12.5.3 Global edition on android 11 and the Begonia Recovery Project version I downloaded and installed was from this website : https://www.pling.com/p/1556862/
Furthermore, I have a unlock pattern on my phone but when I boot into the custom recovery, it doesn't ask me for my unlock pattern. Could this be the reason all my files are named with random letters and numbers?
It won't let me boot back into my operating system and when I try, I get an warning saying "No OS Installed! Are you sure you wish to reboot?". Rebooting leads me right back into the custom recovery, with all files still named with random characters.
I would prefer to be able to boot back into my system without having to lose any of my personal files on my phone (if that is possible).
Any help is greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance
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I was attempting to install the Begonia Recovery Project for Miui 12.5 (android 11) using the fastboot method. But when I reboot into this new recovery and look inisde the "install" tab, all my folders from my main storage are made up of random letters and numbers.
I assume that this means that my files are still encrypted but I am not sure how to decrypt them.
I am running MIUI 12.5.3 Global edition on android 11 and the Begonia Recovery Project version I downloaded and installed was from this website : https://www.pling.com/p/1556862/
Furthermore, I have a unlock pattern on my phone but when I boot into the custom recovery, it doesn't ask me for my unlock pattern. Could this be the reason all my files are named with random letters and numbers?
It won't let me boot back into my operating system and when I try, I get an warning saying "No OS Installed! Are you sure you wish to reboot?". Rebooting leads me right back into the custom recovery, with all files still named with random characters.
I would prefer to be able to boot back into my system without having to lose any of my personal files on my phone (if that is possible).
Any help is greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance
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This is the reason why everyone recommends taking a backup of your files and resetting your device prior to such attempts. Unfortunately, most likely you will lose part, if not all of your files.
That No OS Installed error is normal since MIUI is a system on root OS and TWRP isn't able to detect them.
That random named folders is your internal storage but it's encrypted. You'll need to enter your passcode every time you boot to TWRP. If it doesn't ask you go to Mount and select Decrypt Data
To disable encryption you'll need to format data and install Disable ForceEncrypt. Doing this will erase EVERYTGHING. (except Find Device,IMEI's etc)
I would recommend you to install this TWRP to decrypt them.
If your device boots back to TWRP, it might be triggering Rescue Party. (click the 3rd button on the bottom of the screen to view the logs)
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This is the reason why everyone recommends taking a backup of your files and resetting your device prior to such attempts. Unfortunately, most likely you will lose part, if not all of your files.
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I had installed twrp like this before and never had this type of error. But yes, the smart thing would definately be to always have backups. Lesson learned for next time!
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That No OS Installed error is normal since MIUI is a system on root OS and TWRP isn't able to detect them.
That random named folders is your internal storage but it's encrypted. You'll need to enter your passcode every time you boot to TWRP. If it doesn't ask you go to Mount and select Decrypt Data
To disable encryption you'll need to format data and install Disable ForceEncrypt. Doing this will erase EVERYTGHING. (except Find Device,IMEI's etc)
I would recommend you to install this TWRP to decrypt them.
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Thank you for the fast reply.
I installed the twrp that you recommended. TWRP still isn't asking for my passcode and I can't find a "Decrypt Data" option in the Mount section. The only checked options in Mount are "Data", "Cache", and "Micro SD Card".
Is Disable ForceEncrypt needed in order to be able to boot back into my operating system? Is there any way to boot back into my OS without this?
Thanks again for the fast reply!
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Thank you for the fast reply.
I installed the twrp that you recommended. TWRP still isn't asking for my passcode and I can't find a "Decrypt Data" option in the Mount section. The only checked options in Mount are "Data", "Cache", and "Micro SD Card".
Is Disable ForceEncrypt needed in order to be able to boot back into my operating system? Is there any way to boot back into my OS without this?
Thanks again for the fast reply!
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That zip can only be used if your data is formatted. If you flash it without formatting data you'll be making the situation even worse because it won't allow you to decrypt anymore. (it makes the phone think data isnt encrypted tho it clearly is encrypted)
Also did you check the logs as i suggested to determine the reason why the phone is not booting?
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That zip can only be used if your data is formatted. If you flash it without formatting data you'll be making the situation even worse because it won't allow you to decrypt anymore. (it makes the phone think data isnt encrypted tho it clearly is encrypted)
Also did you check the logs as i suggested to determine the reason why the phone is not booting?
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Whoops, I used the twrp you recommended without formatting the data. Does this mean my data is forever undecryptable?
I checked the logs and indeed it is triggering the Android Rescue Party.
It suggests possible solutions that are
wipe caches, and/or
Format data, and/or
Clean-flash your ROM.
The reported problem is :
'--reason=enablefilecrypto_failed'
Sqorpz said:
Whoops, I used the twrp you recommended without formatting the data. Does this mean my data is forever undecryptable?
I checked the logs and indeed it is triggering the Android Rescue Party.
It suggests possible solutions that are
wipe caches, and/or
Format data, and/or
Clean-flash your ROM.
The reported problem is :
'--reason=enablefilecrypto_failed'
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No i didnt meant that, i said the Disable ForceEncrypt zip needs data to be formatted.
The reported problem unfortunately means your phone cannot setup encryption. (thats why twrp won't decrypt it)
The only solution is to format data to make the phone usable again.
(you might as well flash the disable encryption zip after formatting the data since encryption on android is a pain in the ass and it makes the phone a bit faster)
By the way, do not wipe data, just click Format Data and format it since it doesn't get rid of the encryption properly.
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No i didnt meant that, i said the Disable ForceEncrypt zip needs data to be formatted.
The reported problem unfortunately means your phone cannot setup encryption. (thats why twrp won't decrypt it)
The only solution is to format data to make the phone usable again.
(you might as well flash the disable encryption zip after formatting the data since encryption on android is a pain in the ass and it makes the phone a bit faster)
By the way, do not wipe data, just click Format Data and format it since it doesn't get rid of the encryption properly.
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Thank you so much for your informative responses.
Apologies, I thought you meant that flashing different twrp would lead to undecryptable files.
By formatting data do you mean the parition on my phone called "data"?. I forgot to add that files in my "data" folder have sensible names and don't look encrypted. Is it normal for it to just encrypt my internal storage?
By the sounds of it, I think I will proceed with your suggestion of formatting the data. Just to clarify, will this method also remove everything in my internal storage, eg pictures, music, videos?. Is there a way to continue with this method without having to lose those?
I appreciate your help greatly.
Sqorpz said:
Thank you so much for your informative responses.
Apologies, I thought you meant that flashing different twrp would lead to undecryptable files.
By formatting data do you mean the parition on my phone called "data"?. I forgot to add that files in my "data" folder have sensible names and don't look encrypted. Is it normal for it to just encrypt my internal storage?
By the sounds of it, I think I will proceed with your suggestion of formatting the data. Just to clarify, will this method also remove everything in my internal storage, eg pictures, music, videos?. Is there a way to continue with this method without having to lose those?
I appreciate your help greatly.
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They actually encrypted the whole partition till Android 10. This required you to enter a password before the phone boots up but now they only encrypt the internal storage,apps and app data so you don't have to enter a password anymore before the phone boots-up.
Yes formatting the data will erase everything on your device including the internal storage.
Because they are encrypted just like the other part of data there's no way to save them.
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They actually encrypted the whole partition till Android 10. This required you to enter a password before the phone boots up but now they only encrypt the internal storage,apps and app data so you don't have to enter a password anymore before the phone boots-up.
Yes formatting the data will erase everything on your device including the internal storage.
Because they are encrypted just like the other part of data there's no way to save them.
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I see. So could this have been avoided if I had flashed the twrp after disabling my password? Is it a smart practice to disable your password before doing stuff like flashing a custom recovery?
Obviously losing all my data and internal storage is definately a kick in the nuts. But it is also my fault for not backing up my data before experimenting like this.
Could you please send me an oultine of the steps I need to follow in order to proceed with your method of getting my phone working again. Frankly, I have little experience in this area and I'm afraid i'll make a mistake in the process. I also trust in your expertise and experience far greater than mine.
Thank you again!
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I see. So could this have been avoided if I had flashed the twrp after disabling my password? Is it a smart practice to disable your password before doing stuff like flashing a custom recovery?
Obviously losing all my data and internal storage is definately a kick in the nuts. But it is also my fault for not backing up my data before experimenting like this.
Could you please send me an oultine of the steps I need to follow in order to proceed with your method of getting my phone working again. Frankly, I have little experience in this area and I'm afraid i'll make a mistake in the process. I also trust in your expertise and experience far greater than mine.
Thank you again!
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Simple, enter TWRP, go to Wipe, click Format Data, type yes then hit enter. Your data will be wiped. reboot the phone in Recovery mode (not to the normal OS or else the phone will encrypt again) again so the internal storage gets created.
Plug your phone into a PC, download this:https://zackptg5.com/downloads/archive/Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_11.02.2020.zip
copy it to your phone and install it. If you want to use Magisk, install Magisk first then this zip file. The encryption will be completely disabled.
To answer your first question, It wasn't your fault because i have no idea why your storage got corrupted in the first place but you should definitely disable the password (or disable the encryption if you want to use a password) before doing anything.
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Simple, enter TWRP, go to Wipe, click Format Data, type yes then hit enter. Your data will be wiped. reboot the phone in Recovery mode (not to the normal OS or else the phone will encrypt again) again so the internal storage gets created.
Plug your phone into a PC, download this:https://zackptg5.com/downloads/archive/Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_11.02.2020.zip
copy it to your phone and install it. If you want to use Magisk, install Magisk first then this zip file. The encryption will be completely disabled.
To answer your first question, It wasn't your fault because i have no idea why your storage got corrupted in the first place but you should definitely disable the password (or disable the encryption if you want to use a password) before doing anything.
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Since I am reseting my phone to its factory settings, I researched into some ROMs that I may use instead of MIUI. I came across the Pixel Experience ROM and I'm considering installing it.
I read somewhere that flashing a ROM involves having to disable encryption every time you flash a new ROM or something along those lines. Will installing the Disable ForceEncrypt disable encryption permanently or will I have to considering installing it again if I want to flash the Pixel Experience ROM?
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Since I am reseting my phone to its factory settings, I researched into some ROMs that I may use instead of MIUI. I came across the Pixel Experience ROM and I'm considering installing it.
I read somewhere that flashing a ROM involves having to disable encryption every time you flash a new ROM or something along those lines. Will installing the Disable ForceEncrypt disable encryption permanently or will I have to considering installing it again if I want to flash the Pixel Experience ROM?
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You will have to install it again if you install a new ROM or kernel since it modifies both of them (they both get wiped if you install or update the ROM.
I recommend you follow their install guide since a lot of people get confused when they see errors.
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1. Flash latest Firmware. 2. Flash latest Dynamic TWRP. 3. Reboot to Dynamic TWRP. 4. Flash latest PE rom zip and then format data. 5. Reboot and enjoy. Links Here: Dynamic TWRP: TWRP For A12 Note: If you see any red line errors on twrp just ignore them and continue flashing. Also before...
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Canny1913 said:
You will have to install it again if you install a new ROM or kernel since it modifies both of them (they both get wiped if you install or update the ROM.
I recommend you follow their install guide since a lot of people get confused when they see errors.
Flashing PE A12
1. Flash latest Firmware. 2. Flash latest Dynamic TWRP. 3. Reboot to Dynamic TWRP. 4. Flash latest PE rom zip and then format data. 5. Reboot and enjoy. Links Here: Dynamic TWRP: TWRP For A12 Note: If you see any red line errors on twrp just ignore them and continue flashing. Also before...
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Thank you for all your help. It was probably simple and easy for you but for me, I had no idea what I was doing and would never have done the steps that you suggested so thank you. I really appreciate all the help you've given me.
I just have one last request that is : do you know any good backup services for android? I know about services like google photos for backing up photos and videos, but I was wondering if there were any that backed up the android as a whole, including app data/progress, photos, videos, notes etc.
Thank you again for all your support and making this process very simple and easy and wish you all the best.
Sqorpz said:
Thank you for all your help. It was probably simple and easy for you but for me, I had no idea what I was doing and would never have done the steps that you suggested so thank you. I really appreciate all the help you've given me.
I just have one last request that is : do you know any good backup services for android? I know about services like google photos for backing up photos and videos, but I was wondering if there were any that backed up the android as a whole, including app data/progress, photos, videos, notes etc.
Thank you again for all your support and making this process very simple and easy and wish you all the best.
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Google One app can backup photos,SMS, phone call history and redownloads all of the apps (except apps that were installed from an apk file)
Pixel Experience actually bypasses the Google Photos storage limit so you can backup your entire gallery without problems.
For notes just use Google Keep, it syncs the notes to your Google account.
App data can be backed up by Titanium Backup or Migrate. (i suggest you test them before backing up your entire app data as suggested by Migrate developer)
I don't exactly recommend backing up Data as a whole since your only option is TWRP and TWRP loves to complain when it comes to backing up and restoring.
Thanks for the best wishes and i wish you all the best too. Have a good one.