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I recently started watching the battery temperature on my Verizon SMT5800 phone, and was surprised at how hot the battery got while charging. It has reported internal temperatures as high as 210 degrees Celsius (410 degrees Fahrenheit) while charging. Some documents that I have found on the Web suggest that this indicates that the battery is being overcharged. The battery becomes merely warm to the touch, which might mean that the internal temperature is not as high as reported, or might simply mean that it is well-insulated. What sort of battery temperatures are normal for Lithium Ion batteries?
mine just 35-45 degree celcius
mine htc p3600i
I suspect that the battery's internal sensor may be reporting a higher temperature than is actually present. I talked to Verizon tech support, and they told me to bring the phone by a Verizon store so that they can test the battery. I plan to do so.
jfeldredge said:
I recently started watching the battery temperature on my Verizon SMT5800 phone, and was surprised at how hot the battery got while charging. It has reported internal temperatures as high as 210 degrees Celsius (410 degrees Fahrenheit) while charging. Some documents that I have found on the Web suggest that this indicates that the battery is being overcharged. The battery becomes merely warm to the touch, which might mean that the internal temperature is not as high as reported, or might simply mean that it is well-insulated. What sort of battery temperatures are normal for Lithium Ion batteries?
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The temperature as reported by you of 210 degrees centigrade would certainly melt your device down. The temperature you saw is full of flaw in the application, it can't be true anyway.
I have now tried two other batteries, with similar readings. While it is possible that all three batteries had faulty sensors, it seems more likely that the battery interface isn't standardized across manufacturers, and the data is being misinterpreted. The two applications that I have been using to retrieve the temperature, SBSH Facade and Accosto BLifePlug, are both general Smartphone applications, not HTC-specific.
My battery temp currently reads 3 degrees C. I quit really paying Arthur to it day one. It always reads slightly above freezing.
I don't find a need to check battery temperature. Moreover, phone/battery tend to become warmer when its charging.
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The temperature as reported by you of 210 degrees centigrade would certainly melt your device down. The temperature you saw is full of flaw in the application, it can't be true anyway.
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I know, that can already melt metal right? 210 degree C?
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I don't really check exact temperatures. If it feels unusually warm (pretty only if I'm tethering and charging simultaneously) I prop it up in front of my desk fan. Otherwise I don't really worry about it. Batteries are made to withstand a good amount above/below normal operating temperatures.
In my xperia mini pro, reaching around 31 º Celsius
I can't believe it,maybe there's something wrong with your battery!
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In my xperia mini pro, reaching around 31 º Celsius
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So is mine! It has been like that since I started using custom roms (with no or hardly any overclocking). I think it was lower on stock. Which rom are you using?
It reaches about 30º on HTC desire.
But not on Sumsung moment using now.
I got the temp light only once when I first got the captivate. I was downloading a lot of you tube with a dead batt and charging
I've only used my phone for light stuff like browsing Twitter, Reddit, etc., but doing so causes my phone to noticeably warm up as if doing some heavy duty stuff, especially if on max brightness. It heats up faster/easier than my Nexus 5. Anybody else noticing this? I think I'm gonna go to T-mobile tomorrow and tell them, but I wanna make sure that I'm not tripping.
Mine got quite hot when I was downloading a lot of apps in a row. It gets warm on normal browsing but not hot.
Same here, updating apps from the play store, video watching etc. Wil cause the back side, at the middle section to heat up.
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I've only used my phone for light stuff like browsing Twitter, Reddit, etc., but doing so causes my phone to noticeably warm up as if doing some heavy duty stuff, especially if on max brightness. It heats up faster/easier than my Nexus 5. Anybody else noticing this? I think I'm gonna go to T-mobile tomorrow and tell them, but I wanna make sure that I'm not tripping.
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I've been having that issue also. Haven't really figured out. Just know when that happens, battery drains fast.. think it's an app eating up battery creating heat but haven't figured out which one...
I am having the exact same issue. I'm thinking about switching my phone through T-Mobile and going with the M9 because I'm not hearing of this issue at all on the M9.
Yea. I'm definitely getting lots of heat on my S6 Edge as well, especially while running multiple apps while updating Google play apps.
yes I am also facing those heating issues..
I was first told that all phones get hot if you use them while charging but then it has happened thrice now even when I am not charging it.
The heat is pretty bad right at the end of your right thumb..
Had my S6 Edge a week and I'm surprised I haven't had any heat. I use the web a lot but I haven't played games on it yet.
Mine also
Mine is also getting hot with normal usage... I think I should move to SC
Yep. I also have the s6 Edge, and the heat was pretty much unbearable. I was within my 14 day return, so I have the HTC M9 on the way. It was reported HTC fixed most of the over heating issues with the M9 before launch. I will see. This phone will more than likely be returned to T-Mobile if Samsung doesn't come out with a fix soon. I could see this becoming a huge issue after launch since this phone is made out of glass and metal.
I had the Xperia Z1s which had a glass front and back and the HTC M7 and M8 and they all felt hot after using them for a while, once you put a case on them it gets less noticeable. I just assumed it would be the exact same since the S6 uses both glass and aluminum. But yes it does get hot after a while lol.
warming up
guy's i have same issue like u
but , i disable some bloatware useless apps , and warming is better now ,test it and let other knows.
test more ,and make this better
Mine only gets hot if I'm charging while doing a lot of stuff on the phone. After the OTA I did a factory reset and it seemed to fix the "always hot" issue.
Heating up is a good thing. It means you have a good thermal path from the internals to the external metal chassis. If the device stayed cool to the touch while working it would mean the internals would be at much higher temperatures and throttling would kick in to prevent breaching SOA.
That said, it should not get so hot that you cannot hold it, like a hot potato!
firmware?
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Mine only gets hot if I'm charging while doing a lot of stuff on the phone. After the OTA I did a factory reset and it seemed to fix the "always hot" issue.
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what's u'r version ?!!! and firmware
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what's u'r version ?!!! and firmware
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I have a 64gb G6E running OCG.
Well i had an S6 for some days and then got the M9
I can easily say that the M9 is the same as the S6 if not cooler. It has already been proven that the S6's CPU reaches much higher temperatures than the M9 under a medium load
By the help of CPU-Z, it was detected that the S6 CPU reaches a whoping 66℃ if you just open the camera and take a pic
While in the M9, after a half an hour of Mortal Combat X, it reached 59℃
Mind you that these temperatures are CPU TEMPs not Battery/skin temps
S6 internal design is credited to be honest for putting the CPU away from the battery by a nice distance, so the battery doesn't heat up! When the CPU was 66℃ the battery was 31℃ !!!
But in the M9, the CPU is covering the battery, so when the CPU heats up, the battery heats up also. In the case when the CPU was 59℃ the battery was 45-44℃ which is considered to be warmer than the S6's 31℃
However the M9's metal casing helps in heat dissipation a LOT!! just leave the phone for a minute or two, and the phone will cool down very fast. It can cool down all over to 36℃ from 44℃ in three minutes!! Which means that throttling effect will be removed and you can enjoy your device's full potential again in the S6, if the phone heats up badly, the temperature is preserved as the glass is a bad thermal conductor. Also the phone might be very hot to touch in the upper right quadrant of the device in thr CPU side, while the M9 will feel warm all over the device.
So conclusion, the S6's 14 nm SoC heats up more than the M9's 20 nm SoC, but the skin temperature of the M9 is higher than the S6's but it is not annoying, and cools down very fast! If the S6 feels cooler, it is because the CPU is positioned far from the battery, not because it is built on a 14 nm process :laugh:
Does this phone feel warm in your hands most of the time? (Except when idle). Mine is warm. Not hot, but warm every time I use it. Should I be concerned? Or is this a feature for coming winter? It is a replacement. And the first one was mostly the same actually.
If we consider the performance of this mobile and compare it with a lap top or table PC I think it outstanding how cool this mobile runs.
Remember there is no cooling system. Now look at the cooling systems on similar devices.
All flag ship uber mobile devices can get warm under load. I have owned hundreds of mobiles and all powerful models run warm when pushed.
My Samsung Galaxy S6Edge plus runs warmer than my note 7 and my Samsung galaxy S6 ran even warmer.
No cause for concern.
Ensure you only use Samsung chargers designed for the Note 7 to charge the Note 7. NEVER charge any phone using a third party charger.
Enjoy your lovely Note 7, incredible device.
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Thanks for your opinion. However, it is warm not only under heavy use, just when browsingy reading news, checking email... normal use. Just feels warm in my hands, that is all.
notefreak said:
Thanks for your opinion. However, it is warm not only under heavy use, just when browsingy reading news, checking email... normal use. Just feels warm in my hands, that is all.
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If you have a genuine concern you should return your device to your store and request they examine it. Cant lose a thing by doing that if it puts your mind at rest.
Ryland
I don't know if I should be concerned about this or not. That is why I am asking other users about their own experience. I see yours is cool unless in heavy use, lucky you .
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I don't know if I should be concerned about this or not. That is why I am asking other users about their own experience. I see yours is cool unless in heavy use, lucky you .
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Unsure what else I could have replied. Sorry I can be of no further help to you on this point. :highfive:
Ryland
The phone's temperature is a measure of how fast the battery is draining. Expected energy consumption depends on what apps and services you may have running in the background, in addition to what's actually on your screen at the moment. So you should look at the battery-usage data (in Settings|Device Maintenance|Battery) and see what apps are responsible.
When my phone is idle, it is cool to the touch and the battery temperature is around 27C.
Nothing special, just apps that I am mostly using. No apparent drain.
Mine is cool when idle too, but warm the rest of the time.
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Nothing special, just apps that I am mostly using. No apparent drain.
Mine is cool when idle too, but warm the rest of the time.
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Use "GSam battery monitor" and see what temperatures the battery reaches when you are using it. It should feel more warm than other phones cause its made out of metal/glass.
That is a brilliant explanation about the glass thing, why didn't I figure this out? So it kind of is a feature for winter .
Well I used another app and battery shows at about 34 degrees C, CPU shows around 45 degrees. The highest I saw for a second was over 60 degrees (CPU) when downloading apps.
Don't forget that the screen also produces a fair amount of heat...especially when the brightness is cranked up.
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I considered that. But strangely it feels warmer on the top half of the phone.
If you dont tell us the tempreture how do you expect any useful feedback?
We accepct C or F
Umm, I did, bottom post on page 1.
mine is actually mostly "cold". although it's rooted, debloated and i'm using the hydra kernel. Battery life is amazing...
I've never had mine hot, even when playing games it's cool. When charging, it's cool. I'm going to try a stress test and take some readings see what happens I think. But I'm not worried about it heating up a bit.
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That is a brilliant explanation about the glass thing, why didn't I figure this out? So it kind of is a feature for winter .
Well I used another app and battery shows at about 34 degrees C, CPU shows around 45 degrees. The highest I saw for a second was over 60 degrees (CPU) when downloading apps.
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I believe this is a little to warm for minor task such as download apps, browsing, text messaging...etc, though I also think these temps shouldn't worry you as long as 60 is the highest you see under full load just my 2 cents.
You're missing a really important detail, the ambient temperature. You should measure the difference between ambient temperature and the battery temperature. Comparing the battery temperature across different devices in different parts of the word is not accurate or fair.
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You're missing a really important detail, the ambient temperature. You should measure the difference between ambient temperature and the battery temperature. Comparing the battery temperature across different devices in different parts of the word is not accurate or fair.
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True, its been that hot here this year, 43, that even the chickens laid hard boiled eggs!
Ryland
my n7 v1 was warm and the battery lasted forever.
my n7 v2 is noticeably hot, and the battery drains 20% faster, which seems to be the most common complaint in the news.
Samsung has not addressed this. The phone was much hotter when first setup, and after a few hours seems to settle.
I'm sure rooted, and debloated its a little cooler.
I started another thread that has yielded zero useful information so I thought I would be very explicit this time about what I am looking for. I'm trying to figure out if I should RMA my device or not. My device is currently 98F in a 70F room and I'm doing nothing but typing this message. This seems like a high temperature to me but for all I know it's normal for this device. If other people who use battery monitor apps that include device temperature readings could let me know what temp their Pixel XL is operating at I would appreciate it and it will help me decide whether I should RMA this device or not. Thanks in advance if anyone actually responds with useful information.
31C at 26C
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31C at 26C
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That's the same temp as mine after conversion. Maybe that's a normal temp for this phone. Thanks for the response!
The Pixel is designed really differently than my previous phones so I'm having trouble figuring out what is normal on a Pixel. The CPU frequencies that this phone operates at would result in a significant performance lag on my previous phone, for example, but with the Pixel they result in the phone running very smooth and fast.
I have not messed with my frequencies, I'm running OctOS with the Elemental kernel at whatever it ships at.
so I went ahead and let my phone sit in my center console on my way home. for some reason the sun cooks this area of my truck and it's hot to touch even with the AC. After my trip home in 103F weather it was at 42C and did not shut down (I was streaming music over bluetooth from amazon music)
Idle : 30 - 35 C (phone goes below 30 C only when not used for more than 15-20 mins in a very cool room).
Medium Load: 35-40 C
Charging in the car, Charging while using Chrome etc: 40-44 C
Heavy Load: 42-48 C
I have owned Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p previously. This phone definitely runs hotter than all of them.
I got a replacement from Google, but it is the same problem.
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I have not messed with my frequencies, I'm running OctOS with the Elemental kernel at whatever it ships at.
so I went ahead and let my phone sit in my center console on my way home. for some reason the sun cooks this area of my truck and it's hot to touch even with the AC. After my trip home in 103F weather it was at 42C and did not shut down (I was streaming music over bluetooth from amazon music)
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I don't have air conditioning in my car, it was very hot outside, the phone was sitting in a cradle in direct sunlight and I was using the car charger, GPS and Spotify all at the same time--so it's possible my phone got much hotter than 42C when it did shut down. But I used my Nexus 6P and Samsung Galaxy S3 and S6 under identical circumstances and none of them ever overheated and shut down. They also didn't run anywhere near as hot as the Pixel XL when idle. My phone is generally 90-100F in an air conditioned apartment when I'm doing absolutely nothing with it--and multiple people have responded with similar temps for their own phones. If the idle temp for the phone is that high it's going to get super hot when using it under more demanding circumstances.
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Idle : 30 - 35 C (phone goes below 30 C only when not used for more than 15-20 mins in a very cool room).
Medium Load: 35-40 C
Charging in the car, Charging while using Chrome etc: 40-44 C
Heavy Load: 42-48 C
I have owned Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p previously. This phone definitely runs hotter than all of them.
I got a replacement from Google, but it is the same problem.
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That really seems to be normal for this phone based on what others have been saying. Thanks for the detailed information.
jhs39 said:
That really seems to be normal for this phone based on what others have been saying. Thanks for the detailed information.
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No problem. Have you observed higher battery drain when the CPU heats up? I'm not sure phones are meant to be that hot. I haven't seen any other flagship heating up so much.
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No problem. Have you observed higher battery drain when the CPU heats up? I'm not sure phones are meant to be that hot. I haven't seen any other flagship heating up so much.
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I've never heard of another flagship phone that operates so hot. Battery does definitely drain faster the hotter the phone gets. But mine gets to 100F doing almost nothing.
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I've never heard of another flagship phone that operates so hot. Battery does definitely drain faster the hotter the phone gets. But mine gets to 100F doing almost nothing.
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Yes, mine get to 100-105 F range quickly on battery temperature.
Yesterday I had the following youtube, whatsapp, Browser and Gmail - I was switching back and forth and the phone was on 43 C (110 F), (granted I had 1080p video on and was chatting to a friend as well and responding to emails).. I had to then clear all apps and stop using the phone to allow it to cool down. The CPU temperature was over 58 C (measured using elemental X kernal with root access).
Something is wrong with either the 2 NEW Pixel XL phones that Google has provided me OR with the Pixel XL phone in general. There has to be a hardware problem. Maybe some phones are worse than others? Maybe it is a quality control issue?
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Yes, mine get to 100-105 F range quickly on battery temperature.
Yesterday I had the following youtube, whatsapp, Browser and Gmail - I was switching back and forth and the phone was on 43 C (110 F), (granted I had 1080p video on and was chatting to a friend as well and responding to emails).. I had to then clear all apps and stop using the phone to allow it to cool down. The CPU temperature was over 58 C (measured using elemental X kernal with root access).
Something is wrong with either the 2 NEW Pixel XL phones that Google has provided me OR with the Pixel XL phone in general. There has to be a hardware problem. Maybe some phones are worse than others? Maybe it is a quality control issue?
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jesus 58?! mine only got to 45C and that's letting it sit in my center console while streaming youtube with the screen on
fatapia said:
jesus 58?! mine only got to 45C and that's letting it sit in my center console while streaming youtube with the screen on
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Well, that was CPU temperature. The battery temperature was 43-44 C. I had to use a custom Kernel with Root to measure CPU temp, as most apps only give battery temp.
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Well, that was CPU temperature. The battery temperature was 43-44 C. I had to use a custom Kernel with Root to measure CPU temp, as most apps only give battery temp.
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haha oops, I had no idea EXKM did that, just enabled it to see how my cpu fares
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haha oops, I had no idea EXKM did that, just enabled it to see how my cpu fares
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Thank you. EXKM will put a persistent notification.
I would be very interested to know what your temperatures are under mid-heavy load : both the battery temp and CPU temp.
It's basic knowledge that heat destroys processors and other circuits. I have to use coolers and thermal paste etc in my home computer when it gets too hot. I can't see why it would be different for a phone.
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Thank you. EXKM will put a persistent notification.
I would be very interested to know what your temperatures are under mid-heavy load : both the battery temp and CPU temp.
It's basic knowledge that heat destroys processors and other circuits. I have to use coolers and thermal paste etc in my home computer when it gets too hot. I can't see why it would be different for a phone.
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yeah that's why I was so shocked at the temp, get the inside hot enough and any soldered components will begin to loosen. well lets see how it does
Google tells me it's 34° and the battery is at 42.2°
I'd love to check with Daydream!
ASimpleSock said:
Google tells me it's 34° and the battery is at 42.2°
I'd love to check with Daydream!
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The phone is known to get very hot with Daydream. I'm more concerned with how hot the phone gets under normal operating conditions. My battery goes from 80F to 100F in seconds if I do anything as light as surfing the Internet, reading my email, browsing the XDA app or using the EBay app. 100F seems to be the base temperature of my battery if I am using the phone for anything. I suspect that Google knows these phones won't last more than a couple years. I'm not sure if I should wait to find out or just get rid of this thing while it still works. At least in the Nexus phones you had the option of flashing a custom kernel and changing the governor so the phone would run cooler. You can't do that with the Pixel--the phone runs at the same temps or even worse on a custom kernel. I already tried. I've never owned one but I'm curious if the Pixel XL runs significantly warmer than an iPhone. Or for that matter a flagship Samsung phone--other than the one that blew up, obviously.
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...s-analysis-a-remarkable-consistent-performer/
So XDA went ahead and showed what the surface temp of their pixel is under their tests
http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html
I thought the temp of the cpu temp was high, but compared to other processors this is pretty average/on the low side
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/lithium_ion_safety_concerns
Turns out that's no where near as hot as it would need to be to be a safety issue for any of us.
http://bgr.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-note-7-battery-investigation/
if you're concerned why samsung exploded while ours hasn't, they have a good explanation about the construction of those batteries being flawed.
fatapia said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...s-analysis-a-remarkable-consistent-performer/
So XDA went ahead and showed what the surface temp of their pixel is under their tests
http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html
I thought the temp of the cpu temp was high, but compared to other processors this is pretty average/on the low side
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/lithium_ion_safety_concerns
Turns out that's no where near as hot as it would need to be to be a safety issue for any of us.
http://bgr.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-note-7-battery-investigation/
if you're concerned why samsung exploded while ours hasn't, they have a good explanation about the construction of those batteries being flawed.
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I'm not concerned with safety. I'm sure the Pixel is perfectly safe. I'm concerned this phone is going to eventually bootloop like the Nexus 6P, the Nexus 5X and multiple LG phones. I'm not one of those people who wants to have the latest of everything and if I spend a small fortune on something I actually want it to last for a long time. I do appreciate the links you provided and will look at the info later. Thanks.
I have a POCO F3 and I know that it's normal for the phones to get a bit hotter while they are charging. I noticed that my phone while charging can get a temperature of 40º celcius, then the temperature comes down gradually I believe. When it's not charging, it's usually between 20-25º celcius. Is this normal?
Phone are supposed to heat up while charging (especially Fast Charging "33W"). Normal human body temperature is around 37c. So your phone is pretty safe on 40c while charging. But it isn't if it is on 40c all the time.
laid1995 said:
Phone are supposed to heat up while charging (especially Fast Charging "33W"). Normal human body temperature is around 37c. So your phone is pretty safe on 40c while charging. But it isn't if it is on 40c all the time.
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It's only when it's charging. I've noticed that the temperature decreases when it's approaching 100%. When it's not charging it's usually between 22-28º celsius
crazy_penguin said:
It's only when it's charging. I've noticed that the temperature decreases when it's approaching 100%. When it's not charging it's usually between 22-28º celsius
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Yeah, your phone is safe buddy. Don't worry. Heating up while charging is normal.
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Yeah, your phone is safe buddy. Don't worry. Heating up while charging is normal.
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Ok, thanks for the help!
This phone uses fast charging till 90% and after it slows down. That is the cause of temperature decrease when it's approaching to 100%.
I used a slower charger and only a fast charger in emergencies, heat and electronics don't play nice.
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Phones uses fast charging till 90% and after it slows down. That is the cause of temperature decrease when it's approaching to 100%.
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But I can still use safely the fast charger that came with the phone, right? It won't affect the battery's health?
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Yeah, your phone is safe buddy. Don't worry. Heating up while charging is normal.
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ok, thanks.
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But I can still use safely the fast charger that came with the phone, right? It won't affect the battery's health?
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The faster the charger, the higher temps, therefore more battery degradation.
However, 40°C is still o.k. I think. I think the advantages of using Fast Charging are bigger than the disadvantages.
Keep in mind, the biggest battery degredation comes simply from age.
Here's an informative video by MrWhoseTheBoss :
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The faster the charger, the higher temps, therefore more battery degradation.
However, 40°C is still o.k. I think. I think the advantages of using Fast Charging are bigger than the disadvantages.
Keep in mind, the biggest battery degredation comes simply from age.
Here's an informative video by MrWhoseTheBoss :
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Thanks, but I can keep using it, right? Without any worries?
crazy_penguin said:
Thanks, but I can keep using it, right?
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Yes sir. Xiaomi claims to have done a lot of in-house testing with their chargers, and their batteries having stood up a lot of cycles I think.
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Thanks, but I can keep using it, right? Without any worries?
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Never use your phone with heavy tasks / call / gaming ... while charging : not only the heat will damage your battery, but this can explode, especially in hot environment !
Watchout !!!
dreamytom said:
The faster the charger, the higher temps, therefore more battery degradation.
However, 40°C is still o.k. I think. I think the advantages of using Fast Charging are bigger than the disadvantages.
Keep in mind, the biggest battery degredation comes simply from age.
Here's an informative video by MrWhoseTheBoss :
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The disavantages are bigger than advantages :
. heat degrades battery faster
. explosion risk still exist and is higher with fast chargers
. heat not only damages the battery but thermal paste in the motherboard and the storage ... you will notice lag / data corruption after 6 months no matter what you do/update the software !!!
I use only old chargers 5v/2a max ... even if my devices are modern and support fast charging !
Fast charging is a marketing trick to force consumers buying new phones in a short period while your phone can last more than 4 years !
Bad software/kernel optimization is the main culprit for fast battery draining.
Age/ Time : NO ... my Redmi Note 4 (mido) still holds (after 4 years) its full battery capacity and i can reach easily 9 to 10 hours SOT. (i use self compiled lineageos)
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The disavantages are bigger than advantages :
. heat degrades battery faster
. explosion risk still exist and is higher with fast chargers
. heat damage not only battery but thermal paste in the motherboard and storage ... you will notice lag / data corruption after 6 months no matter what you do/update the software !!!
I use only old chargers 5v/2a max ... even if my devices are modern and support fast charging !
Fast charging is a marketing trick to force consumers buying new phones in a short period while your phone can last more than 4 years !
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I think you are a bit overprotective. Explosion Risk? Come on. I know it can still happen, but it's so rare.
Yes generally heat causes Battery degradation, but it also depends on the phone and how good of a job the manufacturer has done.
10 Watt Charging is really slow man...
I also don't think it's simply Marketing, because Batteries have also gotten bigger. We went from 3300 mAh batteries, to 4500 mAh batteries in many phones nowadays.
Chipsets are also getting more and more efficient through 5, 7 nanometer-technology, however the increased clock-speed (and other stuff) outdoes that mentioned efficiency-improvement.
I really understand your concern, but don't you think it's overprotective? 10 Watt is really slow in my opinion
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I think you are a bit overprotective. Explosion Risk? Come on. I know it can still happen, but it's so rare.
Yes generally heat causes Battery degradation, but it also depends on the phone and how good of a job the manufacturer has done.
10 Watt Charging is really slow man...
I also don't think it's simply Marketing, because Batteries have also gotten bigger. We went from 3300 mAh batteries, to 4500 mAh batteries in many phones nowadays.
Chipsets are also getting more and more efficient through 5, 7 nanometer-technology, however the increased clock-speed (and other stuff) outdoes that mentioned efficiency-improvement.
I really understand your concern, but don't you think it's overprotective? 10 Watt is really slow in my opinion
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Don't forget the heat generated by the modern cpu/gpu ... so yeah add this to the heat generated by the battery itself !!!
... and don't forget that smartphones are closed environments for the electronic components (some manufacturers add fans for heat dissipation and they know why they are doing this) !
I don't care about slow charging since ... i remove the sim card and put it on another phone while charging.
gringo80 said:
Never use your phone with heavy tasks / call / gaming ... while charging : not only the heat will damage your battery, but this can explode, especially in hot environment !
Watchout !!!
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Yes, I almost never used my phone while it's charging. Only to send 1 or 2 text messages, that's it. So I can keep using the fast charger, right?
dreamytom said:
I think you are a bit overprotective. Explosion Risk? Come on. I know it can still happen, but it's so rare.
Yes generally heat causes Battery degradation, but it also depends on the phone and how good of a job the manufacturer has done.
10 Watt Charging is really slow man...
I also don't think it's simply Marketing, because Batteries have also gotten bigger. We went from 3300 mAh batteries, to 4500 mAh batteries in many phones nowadays.
Chipsets are also getting more and more efficient through 5, 7 nanometer-technology, however the increased clock-speed (and other stuff) outdoes that mentioned efficiency-improvement.
I really understand your concern, but don't you think it's overprotective? 10 Watt is really slow in my opinion
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So should I buy a slower charger? Or can I keep this one?
gringo80 , I agree with the things you have mentioned. I have only one doubt, does the use of slow chargers with the new Mi 11x will support it completely and doesn't have any side effects?
In Layman's language, slow charges can be used with today's generation Android phones?