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Does any body know if it is possible and if so how to enable the HSPA: 850/1900 band on a Global (GSM/CDMA) Version of the TP2.
It already has the HSPA: 2100 enabled... so maybe someone RF inclined could shed some light on this question.
Thanks
I dont believe it has the hardware to do it. It is not a software tweak.
That is why so many people waited for the ATT version to come out. There is an Australian version that works on one of the bands but not both.
Sorry to say that I think you are wrong about the Hardware reason...
Apparently the Pro2 has the chip installed, but it's locked down some how. That info has been floating around from an inside source at Telus. they say it actually has 850/1900/2100 UTMS bands but just got "locked" by Telus.
Also sites like Engaget has long posted some HTC FCC info proving that; http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
Also The TP2 uses Qualcomm's MSM7600. The specs for that processor allow two major sets of radio interfaces, only one of which supports CDMA 800 and 1900. That major set has two variants that support HSPA: 2100+800 or 2100+1900+850.
So the question is; is there anyone with the proper knowledge that can tell what is onboard the TELUS TP2 and if it has infact the variant that supports the North American frequencies, how do we enable it?
Thanks for posting with FACTS and not Thoughts as this is the only way we will get a valid answer to this question.
Hmm this is definitely an interesting idea. I'd love to have the front facing camera of the Global Version, but I still need 850/1900 UMTS
850/1900 WCDMA on Global version
Gentlemen:
While the chipset has the various frequency capabilities, it is the tuning of the antannae that determines which frequencies are recieveable , ie, turned on, in the various versions. The AT&T version has a different tuning of the antannae than the global versions.
While theoretically possible, the anatanne is part of the main board and must be physically removed and replaced. I have not been able to find a universal antannae that could be resoldered to the board, if one was brave enough to give it a try.
there is software changes to the chipset controller required as well.
I think it is pretty impractical and likely impossible to do outside of have a new board installed with the properly tuned antannae to make it work. I have researched this for some time now, in an attempt to be able to use the EU versions here in NA. I travel internationally a lot, to Asia and EU, and need the 2100 band, so that has been my motivation.
There may be someone else out there who has different information, but this is what I have learned in digging through the available data for the past 3-4 years of various HTC devices and their variants.
Hope this helps,
MWS
A question came up on the us forum for Defy about the different software builds until finally a Moto-mod came in with this. It's intriguing in that apparently the Defy has all band capability, but the software build limits the choice. Here's the quote:
"Each Blur Version for the Defy is all Carrier and Regional Specific like for instance For US T-Mobile Customers its 3.6.19.0 however for UK T-Mobile Users I think the latest version is 2.51 Other parts of europe are using 2.34 without MotoBlur and so on and so fourth, the main difference is Carrier installed apps and the confusing part, from what i've expierenced with the phone, Its the first phone i've ever seen with a software controlled universal radio supporting all bands, however its software tells it which band to use, for instance if you 2.21 and 2.51 UK versions are using UMTS 900/2100 where US's 3.6.190 is using AWS 1700/2100. there are ways if you look to obtain version 2.51.1 however this isn't the place to look on instructions on how to do it because its against the forum rules, is unsupported and with 2.51 if for whatever reason you wanted to downgrade you couldn't unfortunatly."
WHAT.
Software defined radio?
If this is for real the hackers SHOULD REALLY HAVE A FIELD DAY with this phone.
It's a shame they're too busy with the Samsungs and HTCs of the world..
There's quite a difference between true software defined radio (most radios these days are sort of there, as they are most commonly some embedded chip with custom firmware but nothing like a Linux kernel) and being able to switch frequencies to be used
nupi said:
There's quite a difference between true software defined radio (most radios these days are sort of there, as they are most commonly some embedded chip with custom firmware but nothing like a Linux kernel) and being able to switch frequencies to be used
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I'm not an expert, but the basic thrust of this was that all Defy phones are identical and capable of all frequencies, but the firmware defines which can be used. Therefore it seems -- to this novice mind -- that change the firmware change the phone.
The other, related issue is the frustration of some Euro phone owners who really know nothing about differences in 3G frequencies. buy a phone and presume they can use them in the US (as one can with an iPhone). Those of us who prowl these forums are basically smart enough to know that before you buy a phone we have to be sure we can actually use it -- but 90% of buyers buy a phone presuming they can.
Okay well can someone on the forum test this out? You'd need the ability to try and access both sets of frequencies.
Example: You're in Australia and you have a Defy from Telstra which you've also unlocked. Your stock firmware supports 850/AWS/2100. You should be able to get an 850 MHz signal from Telstra's NextG network. Now, if you put in an Optus SIM and visit an area with 900 MHz 3G coverage but not 2100, you'll find the phone drops to EDGE or gets no signal.
So at this point, take a nandroid backup, and flash a 900/2100 firmware or replace the radio files with ones from such a firmware. Now repeat the same test... does it successfully register on Optus at 900 MHz?
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Radio issues...
Strictly on the band issue, I don't think they are that apart. A good radio would be able to handle it without being full SDR.
I agree partly on the point that these radios are somehow SDR for they do change the frequencie ranges by changing firmware.
A full SDR would be able to change even to CDMA or something else, not only the band!
If you want to challenge someone for doing something about it, ask for a full tri-band version of the Defy radio! (That I would ask for too!)
I intend to use my Defy originally 850/1900 over a 2100 network.
Well that's is my humble guess.
KMur said:
A full SDR would be able to change even to CDMA or something else, not only the band!
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Interesting, as if you go into the INFO menu and select "set preferred network type" one choice (which it will not allow) is CDMA. But it's there.
Which version of the Defy is UMTS 850/1900? I thought there was only 850/1700/2100 and 900/2100.
Also, pretty much all Androids have CDMA as a listed option, not because they're compatible, but because it's a testing menu that was designed to be applicable to a wide variety of phones.
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hey guys, i find that there is potential in this device, but most developer wun bother as it being a mid-ranger. But ultimately availability plays a big role. So i would like to find out is it available in your country.
It is available here in Malaysia
It is also available in the Philippines
The dual-SIM version will be available soon in Brazil...
It is also available in Thailand
Available in Russia
Will be sold soon in Turkey:good:
Hope availability expands and somewhere there will be a dev picks up this device.
It's available in Singapore
m5 dual sim version avaliable in Hong Kong weeks ago
Algebra the Bard
Soon released in Nordic/Scandinavian countries (Sweden, Norway, Denmark & Finland)
Both versions, Lithuania.
Hi all,
I need to know the availability of the Xperia M5 Dual SiM in France (Model E5633), because in France 4G LTE use currently 800 Mhz / 1800 Mhz / 2600 Mhz bands. As i can seee, only the model E5633 hold 800 Mhz 4G band.
Others model use 850 Mhz band instead 800. It depend of the country area.
Thanks for your reply.
Available here in Finland. And while I'm somehow interested about this phone, I'd like to know if we already know if those serious problems which almost
all M5-users seem to have are only software-based(so they can be cured with updates) or from hardware, and that would mean that M5 is doomed.
Raikku said:
Available here in Finland. And while I'm somehow interested about this phone, I'd like to know if we already know if those serious problems which almost
all M5-users seem to have are only software-based(so they can be cured with updates) or from hardware, and that would mean that M5 is doomed.
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Actually theres a hardware problem. The battery causes the phone to die. Check this
Just got my M5 dual sim variant last week in South Africa.
The single sim version became available in Greece. Don't know if the auto shut down problem is fixed. I assume it is. Waiting for the dual sim version...
kskar said:
The single sim version became available in Greece. Don't know if the auto shut down problem is fixed. I assume it is. Waiting for the dual sim version...
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I got my dual sim variant in January and havent experienced the auto shutdown problem. There has been one big update since I got it, so I reckon its been fixed.
I have a dual sim version bought in France. For the moment, I also never experienced the auto shut down problem.
M5 single sim 5606 in Argentina
Enviado desde mi E5606 mediante Tapatalk
someone know how to change lte frequency on ZenFone 5 (ZE620KL) ?
Chehas said:
someone know how to change lte frequency on ZenFone 5 (ZE620KL) ?
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Which version of the phone do you have? Which Band are you missing?
I also have the same requirement. I've got the same ZenFone 5 (ZE620KL) which I think is from the Taiwan market. I need 800MHz (Band 20) activating as it's the most commonly used LTE band in the UK. I also need 2600MHz (Band 7) for my network but this is working on the device already. Is it even possible to get a missing band working on a device?
Anyone know the answer to this?
You can give this a try: [GUIDE] Add all GSM and LTE bands to your phone
That guide seems very complicated and is now 4 years old. Do you guys think the method still works? And are custom kernels already available? For now I'm kinda getting used to the missing Band 20 but the three Carriers in Germany said that they are shutting down 3G 2020/21.
So I would be glad if some experienced user could try if the tools work with the Asus ZF5 cause missing LTE support could become a problem rather sooner than later :/
dmax92 said:
That guide seems very complicated and is now 4 years old. Do you guys think the method still works? And are custom kernels already available? For now I'm kinda getting used to the missing Band 20 but the three Carriers in Germany said that they are shutting down 3G 2020/21.
So I would be glad if some experienced user could try if the tools work with the Asus ZF5 cause missing LTE support could become a problem rather sooner than later :/
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Well, I'm not sure, I haven't tried that. There are thousands of guides for different phones here on xda. I'm sure somehow it can be done with this device as well.
Hope someone with experience and the phone can try it. For now I'm good with the missing Band 20 but in 2020/21 the major carriers here in Germany will shut down their 3G services. So missing LTE frequencies could turn out to be a real problem Rather sooner than later :/
Why Asus released their Zenfone 5 Models with different LTE support while the 5Z supports all important ones is beyond me...
Could a custom ROM with Kernel correct the missing Bands ?
thanks guys , but i sold my phone for the galaxy s9 and no any problems lol
Hello to all,
i recently bought the Galaxy S20+ G986N, mine is a korean version!
Now I accidentally read that the 3G/4G and 5G networks are limited! --> I did not know before!
Is it possible to unlock the networks?
Thanks in advance and regards
Daniel
PS:
Is it possible to unlock the Dual Sim version here? Since this is a SingleSim!
Allegedly yes if you bought the phone sans mobile network, pop you sim inside and talk to someone for 10 minutes, on your local network that is, it should reset to a "domestic" flavor of networks... it can be checked via the secret menu *#60# or something like that (google is your friend if not), dough snapdragon has no issue whatsoever with working on any network, the network locked ones and usa specific ones are a different thing, - even those can be made to work.
I was not aware any of the s10 and s20 series come with just a single sim as one slot can be used for sdcard and a sim... Give it a shot, you already bought the phone anyways...
I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?
danikristijan said:
I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?
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In fact 5G limited not only by software, but by hardware too, every band protocol of 5G requires appropriate specific antenna to be installed in your device. Moreover, you can't flash anything except the firmware designed for N version (no U/U1 whatsoever options) because of boot-loader.
Thanks for your reply.
For mmwave you need hardware, but I guess for Sub6 it's only limited by sw?!?
5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps
nguyenlucky said:
5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps
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Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?
danikristijan said:
Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?
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It's possible (4G bands) on some old phones (pre-835 era), but not so much these days though
Thanks for your reply. Not so much means, currently no possibility?