Android system Oreo 8.1 "run in background" toggle - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

Hi,
Just wondering whether toggling off android system "run in background" would have any drastic effect on the phone...Is there any advantage of this running in the background?

Well I also posed to my self the same question yesterday. I decided to turn off Background Activity toogle on battery usage from Android System and from Google Play Services. Well, until now not seeing any problems at all. Hope this continues...

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[Q] Poor Memory management/ Tune in pro frequently closes when browsing

When I use tune in I go back to the home screen or browse, my phone will frequently close the app. This shouldn't happen, especially when its in the notification bar also, its supposed to run in the foreground.
I was thinking of moving it in to the system/app folder but before I do, can someone suggest a better solution?
Maybe Change the Max events per second or back ground process limits but I wouldn't know what would be a good setting, or if it has anything to do with it.
Im currently running Black Ice with samurai kernel. Its not the ROM or the kernel because I've had this problem since I've had the phone.
Hi,
First,the "max_events_per_sec" precisely "windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec" has nothing to do with your issue,it's about scrolling speed in the buid.prop.
In Developper Options Check if "Don't keep activities" is untick and if "Background process limit" is set to "Standard limit".
This rom is based on AOKP I believe,so in your "Control rom" (where there is the options for Navbar,Lockscreen,etc...) you get something like "Performance"/Free memory,check if this value is not too high,currently 80mb is good.
Last thing check your init.d scripts,there are probably that manages the ram (but let Android do it by itself).If you have scripts like "**VM","**LMK",or "**FreeMemory" even "**Tweaks",take it a look it's surely about ram.
Rename them with .bak or disable them via your Rom control then reboot ant test.
EDIT:and in Tune in,is there an option for/about settings/running in backround?
N, no Tune in settings like that, but thanks for your reply.

Forcing background activity restrictions on Android Oreo for pre-Oreo apps

I just go Oreo on my Pixel XL. My understanding is that apps that don't target Oreo should have a "Background activity" toggle under the per-app battery settings. I have seen this for some apps.
However, I have also seen several apps that have not been updated for quite a while (and thus couldn't possibly be targeting Oreo) that are missing the "Background activity" toggle
What am I missing?
thomase00 said:
I just go Oreo on my Pixel XL. My understanding is that apps that don't target Oreo should have a "Background activity" toggle under the per-app battery settings. I have seen this for some apps.
However, I have also seen several apps that have not been updated for quite a while (and thus couldn't possibly be targeting Oreo) that are missing the "Background activity" toggle
What am I missing?
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I've been wondering this too. I have a lot of pre-Oreo apps that don't have the toggle.
Nothing, huh?
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background check dev option

Hi me again what is that background check with all the blue toggles on never noticed it untill I scrolled all the way down in Dev options???
Anyone??
ttocs99 said:
Hi me again what is that background check with all the blue toggles on never noticed it untill I scrolled all the way down in Dev options???
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Hmm, hadn't seen this setting before. I really should get a better understanding of Oreo's new settings. I searched and found a reddit link highlighting the use case:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/7lbpki/android_81_feature_developer_option_background/
The comment by "well...duh" shows what this affects in Android. From the app drawer, long press Android Pay, select Battery and observe the Background activity setting. Developer Options/Background Check flips that same switch on/off.
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It's there for a good few apps like play store and services and some 3rd party services
I wonder the same thing.. on a latest pixel devices "background check" is empty and on GSI builds there are some options enabled..

How to stop apps from running in the background?

Guys,
How do I stop apps from running in the background?
Check my attached screenshot of battery stats, where snaptube and beam was running in the background, although I never opened them for the day.
Is there an option in settings to do it like Samsung does, or Do I have to depend on an App ?
Thanks in Advance!
JazonX said:
Guys,
How do I stop apps from running in the background?
Check my attached screenshot of battery stats, where snaptube and beam was running in the background, although I never opened them for the day.
Is there an option in settings to do it like Samsung does, or Do I have to depend on an App ?
Thanks in Advance!
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That's some pretty bad battery drain for apps that you haven't even used. You could try greenify.
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JazonX said:
Guys,
How do I stop apps from running in the background?
Check my attached screenshot of battery stats, where snaptube and beam was running in the background, although I never opened them for the day.
Is there an option in settings to do it like Samsung does, or Do I have to depend on an App ?
Thanks in Advance!
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Best options I'd say:
- Disable Background Activity (app info - battery) - though this may mess with any notifications you may want to receive
- Disable Background data (app info - Data Usage - Background Data) - again, perhaps no notifications
- Battery optimisation - ensure android is optimising battery usage
- Disable notifications from within the app, which should reduce battery usage though of course at the expense of not receiving notifications (could just manually check?)
Another option is to use App ops (comes with NitrogenOS custom rom) or install it from the Playstore. This will allow you to further tweak app permissions, specifically "auto-start", "keep awake" and "run in background".
Lastly for some apps it may be a better option to eithern find an alternative, where available, or not to bother with the app and just use the web interface instead. For example, I don't bother with Facebook and used Folio for a while. Now I just settle for the web interface (with messenger lite installed for messages) and have a shortcut to the site on my home screen (which you can even change the icon to a Facebook one).
Though also I see you using Snaptube (video downloader?) and so downloading will be a battery drainer too, so if this is the case use WiFi where possible.
Many options, decide which fits best for you
Great reply right here. Was just about to say the first few options as they're built-in. Good thing I scrolled down. LOL
cd993 said:
Best options I'd say:
- Disable Background Activity (app info - battery) - though this may mess with any notifications you may want to receive
- Disable Background data (app info - Data Usage - Background Data) - again, perhaps no notifications
- Battery optimisation - ensure android is optimising battery usage
- Disable notifications from within the app, which should reduce battery usage though of course at the expense of not receiving notifications (could just manually check?)
Another option is to use App ops (comes with NitrogenOS custom rom) or install it from the Playstore. This will allow you to further tweak app permissions, specifically "auto-start", "keep awake" and "run in background".
Lastly for some apps it may be a better option to eithern find an alternative, where available, or not to bother with the app and just use the web interface instead. For example, I don't bother with Facebook and used Folio for a while. Now I just settle for the web interface (with messenger lite installed for messages) and have a shortcut to the site on my home screen (which you can even change the icon to a Facebook one).
Though also I see you using Snaptube (video downloader?) and so downloading will be a battery drainer too, so if this is the case use WiFi where possible.
Many options, decide which fits best for you
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cd993 said:
Best options I'd say:
- Disable Background Activity (app info - battery) - though this may mess with any notifications you may want to receive
- Disable Background data (app info - Data Usage - Background Data) - again, perhaps no notifications
- Battery optimisation - ensure android is optimising battery usage
- Disable notifications from within the app, which should reduce battery usage though of course at the expense of not receiving notifications (could just manually check?)
Another option is to use App ops (comes with NitrogenOS custom rom) or install it from the Playstore. This will allow you to further tweak app permissions, specifically "auto-start", "keep awake" and "run in background".
Lastly for some apps it may be a better option to eithern find an alternative, where available, or not to bother with the app and just use the web interface instead. For example, I don't bother with Facebook and used Folio for a while. Now I just settle for the web interface (with messenger lite installed for messages) and have a shortcut to the site on my home screen (which you can even change the icon to a Facebook one).
Though also I see you using Snaptube (video downloader?) and so downloading will be a battery drainer too, so if this is the case use WiFi where possible.
Many options, decide which fits best for you
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THANK YOU! for taking time to compose this fantastic response.
Initially I was lost because I coudn't find the option to kill background activity in the app settings. However since you've mentioned it here, I checked again.
Apparently that option is not shown for some apps. But a few, Like Snaptube does have that option. For the one's that doesn't have it - I used Greenify.
Battery Optimization, Yes Enabled.
Notifications were also a good tip, Killed all except the messenger and Email apps.
JazonX said:
THANK YOU! for taking time to compose this fantastic response.
Initially I was lost because I coudn't find the option to kill background activity in the app settings. However since you've mentioned it here, I checked again.
Apparently that option is not shown for some apps. But a few, Like Snaptube does have that option. For the one's that doesn't have it - I used Greenify.
Battery Optimization, Yes Enabled.
Notifications were also a good tip, Killed all except the messenger and Email apps.
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You're welcome

Keep open in background

Is there a way to have this support more than 3 apps? It's ridiculous there's a limit with the amount of ram on this phone
That's a GREAT question, and I'd love to know the answer too. I haven't found one yet though. RAM isn't an issue on this phone. Maybe they worry too many locked in memory will affect battery life too much?
Where did you learn this is the limit? I've gone days without opening an app before and when I go back to it it's right where I left off.
You could perhaps go to the battery saving menu and disable the battery saving for any apps you want to remain running. This may cause some serious background battery usage though, but It may be worth trying out. Also, try running the high performance mode. I've run that mode a lot and never noticed it causing much battery drain over the standard optimised mode.
Coming from Oneplus and using it for a long time I can tell you, the Note 10+ is probably one of the best multitasking phones I've used (including Note 9). Chrome on this hardly ever closes in the background and find it always running and available with all the tabs open. Oneplus phones can hardly keep anything in memory / background loaded for more than 5 mins but but Oneplus phones feel sooooo much more responsive and snappy comparatively otherwise.
The default for background apps is set to, "standard." Which allows more than 3 background apps.
Go into Device Care - > Battery - > App power management
Some apps may have been automatically added to sleep or deep sleep.
You can add or remove apps as needed.
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imucarmen said:
Where did you learn this is the limit?
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After you add three to "Keep open for quick launching" the option becomes greyed out.
You're right, it's generally not an issue where apps get closed down in the background anyway, but I normally have 4 or 5 that I always wanted 'pinned' to my recents list. Not a big deal, I just found the limit strange, given the phone's capabiities and hardware.
Henaway said:
After you add three to "Keep open for quick launching" the option becomes greyed out.
You're right, it's generally not an issue where apps get closed down in the background anyway, but I normally have 4 or 5 that I always wanted 'pinned' to my recents list. Not a big deal, I just found the limit strange, given the phone's capabiities and hardware.
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How do you get " keep open for quick launching “ , I only get lock app instead , I'm running one ui 2.1 june security patch ” picture attached ”
Anyway you can bypass this using good lock app from galaxy store and use the module multistar and toggle on ”long live apps”
My task manager
hoss_n2 said:
How do you get " keep open for quick launching “ , I only get lock app instead , I'm running one ui 2.1 june security patch ” picture attached ”
Anyway you can bypass this using good lock app from galaxy store and use the module multistar and toggle on ”long live apps”
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I'm also on One UI 2.1, June security patch. Screenshot of my menu option is attached. Maybe it's different between countries/regions/models? Mine is the Canadian N975W.
Edit: attachments aren't working, here's a link to the screenshot: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqdgaMVMg2EMirgLXMqey1V1d0Gsdg?e=RGdVeX
I have three settings :
Put apps to sleep
Put apps to deep sleep
Apps that are not put to sleep.
I can add as many as i want in here.
There's an option to Goodlock's Task Changer to keep an app open which is a setting you don't have anywhere else in the system.
But i don't have that long live app in Multistar on my end.
Sorry for digging this up but do all of your apps appear in the "Apps that never sleep" list of apps?
I'm missing quite a few of my apps, aProfiles and Philips Hue for a start...
Anyone has noticed that before? Thnx

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