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Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
xdaforo said:
Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
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Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
U r not going to have any problems with the battery. The is a excellent phone. The camera with low lighting has some quality issues, and the biggest problem is the lack of updates. We r stuck on android 4.1, the hardware is capable but the software is old, for example u can't use Bluetooth LE devices. ..
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
I droped it for 3 times and its ok!
But I bought full insurance
grunch21 said:
Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
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Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
stratdevel said:
U r not going to have any problems with the battery. The is a excellent phone. The camera with low lighting has some quality issues, and the biggest problem is the lack of updates. We r stuck on android 4.1, the hardware is capable but the software is old, for example u can't use Bluetooth LE devices. ..
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Updates wil come finally, I think
t1mman said:
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
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bafdboysbehindthis said:
I droped it for 3 times and its ok!
But I bought full insurance
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Does this mean that you already broke it and you had to use that nice insurance?
thanks for all your comments and opinions
xdaforo said:
Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
Updates wil come finally, I think
Does this mean that you already broke it and you had to use that nice insurance?
thanks for all your comments and opinions
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No, its ok. Not even a scrach)
grunch21 said:
Problems? You are a glass-half-empty guy aren't you? Lol
I think this is the best phone i could get in this price range, specs wise. At least in my country.
Battery is good so far. Certainly better than Xperia SP, even though it has less capacity. Amazing screen, speaker is clear, good build quality. Camera is a bit meh though. Overall it's a really good phone. The only minus is it doesn't support external storage.
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Any important reasons, as known issues, common problems or anything to know in order to avoid purchasing for this device?
I've read about battery issues related with being battery li-po type.
Anything that I should know about?
It looks quite fragile and breakable too, but thats another problem, lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655237
Geeeze bro! You can't put a bad flash in the "known issue" section...
t1mman said:
Battery will hold about 2 days, depending on your useage
Camera is best when used with another software
Audio quality is bad
The rest is pretty good, if you forget the lack of update from LG.
IMHO, I would go for a Nexus 4, same specs, fraction of the price, better support.
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Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
Biker1121 said:
Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
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Try LG Camera, compare image, you'll see!
bafdboysbehindthis said:
No, its ok. Not even a scrach)
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Good to know.
niyazidk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655237
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I don't think this is a real problem with the phone.
t1mman said:
Geeeze bro! You can't put a bad flash in the "known issue" section...
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indeed
Biker1121 said:
Hi,
what do u mean that camera is better with other soft? Stock soft is horrible and it all because flash focus is missing. I've tried kernel with this but it's not good yet but question is what software do u meant? thanks
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I think he means using third party software to take the photos. But it my experiencie it doesn't help too much since all the software use the same "limit/native values" or whatever u call them (aperture and shutter speed settings and so on) when taking a photo. So that means that, unless the "stock camera software" makes and awful work when choosing what paremeters to use, you won't notice big differences between obtained results.
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I think he means using third party software to take the photos. But it my experiencie it doesn't help too much since all the software use the same "limit/native values" or whatever u call them (aperture and shutter speed settings and so on) when taking a photo. So that means that, unless the "stock camera software" makes and awful work when choosing what paremeters to use, you won't notice big differences between obtained results.
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This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera
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This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera
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What is OEM software? could u send me a link? thanks
OEM means "stock", like the one in the stock rom provided by LG.
The "LG Camera" is another software, found in the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=en
I don't know how come they called it "LGCamera", beats me! But it's not the camera software from LG!
t1mman said:
This was taken at the same place, using the same settings, same light, etc. See for yourself:
Photo taken by OEM software:
Photo taken by LG Camera
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Well I don't see where you wanna get. Actually I dont know which one do u like the most. I just see a more natural color but a much more noisy shot than with the second one.
Where I want to go is that you can get those 2 results with both app cameras, playing around with manual settings. The problem is that 90% of people don't use them and just press the butom and take the photo.
So what makes the difference when choosing one app instead the other is actually depending only on how the automatic mode works..
In part, I know I can get a better quality on the OEM software using custom ISO settings, but the image will get blurry easely, which is not realy an option unless you take "still subjects".
The grainy feel on the first one is realy beyond what I could consider an "average" quality.
xdaforo said:
Well, not really. Just a realistic guy who cares about how industry and economy have led us to buy stuff that last 10 times less than things lasted before. I just want those 10 times to be reduced somehow so I study quite a lot what the perfect purchase would be among my interests.
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Good point.
xdaforo said:
The other phone that I was considering was actually the Xperia SP. Battery on the sp with stock rom performs perfect. We have this phone at home and I saw how it lasted 2 days using airplane mode at nights together with a moderate use along the day.
On the other hand, hardware is supposed to be worse, and actually less energy consumer -2 cores against 4. So I doubt about Xperia sp performing worse than optimus g in that field.
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I was torn between buying SP, nexus 4 and LGOG. SP has larger battery capacity and external storage, nexus 4 has direct update from google. But i ended up buying LGOG cos it has better hardware, nicer screen than SP, and larger storage than Nexus 4. I bought my sister the SP though, and she loves it!
grunch21 said:
Good point.
I was torn between buying SP, nexus 4 and LGOG. SP has larger battery capacity and external storage, nexus 4 has direct update from google. But i ended up buying LGOG cos it has better hardware, nicer screen than SP, and larger storage than Nexus 4. I bought my sister the SP though, and she loves it!
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all are good options i guess. thank you for all ur comments
Hey guys. I am a long time jailbroken iPhone user. I am really into tech and wanted to try an android phone. However with the 5.5 iPhone I basically decided to just get the iPhone 6+ but now I have cold feet. Even though iOS 8 opens it up more I don't like certain restrictions like widgets in the notification center. Anyway Of all the android phones I have tried I liked the G3 the best. I have some concerns hoping you can help me with
-I have AT&T, how easy is it to root and get rid of the bloatware?
-does custom roms cause problems? Is it comparable tosses with Jailbreaking?
- when android L comes out what is the expected delay in the G3 getting it.
-I noticed the screen max brightness is not great. How is it in real life.
- one other issue I have is that the g3 has been out for a few months instead of a hot new phone.
Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
Stigga said:
Hey guys. I am a long time jailbroken iPhone user. I am really into tech and wanted to try an android phone. However with the 5.5 iPhone I basically decided to just get the iPhone 6+ but now I have cold feet. Even though iOS 8 opens it up more I don't like certain restrictions like widgets in the notification center. Anyway Of all the android phones I have tried I liked the G3 the best. I have some concerns hoping you can help me with
-I have AT&T, how easy is it to root and get rid of the bloatware?
-does custom roms cause problems? Is it comparable tosses with Jailbreaking?
- when android L comes out what is the expected delay in the G3 getting it.
-I noticed the screen max brightness is not great. How is it in real life.
- one other issue I have is that the g3 has been out for a few months instead of a hot new phone.
Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
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The fact that you're even considering it shows your not ready to come to the light. Go with the iphone. Try it out at least.
I have att also
Rooting is easy ,, and removing bloatware is easy also,there are a couple quides for that
As for custom Roms there are non yet for the att g3 as it has a locked boot loader, but there are a couple devs working on unlocking the boot loader or finding an exploit to allow us to flash custom recoveries and roms
Android L if released will most likely make it to our g3 late 2014 or first quarter 2015
For the brightness issue I installed lux auto brightness
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6 plus bro
Thanks guys. Decided to not pre order the 6 plus- which is big for me. In regards to removing bloatware, how can you do that if there is no customer toms.
Stigga said:
Thanks guys. Decided to not pre order the 6 plus- which is big for me. In regards to removing bloatware, how can you do that if there is no customer toms.
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You have Titanium Backup to remove bloatware and I'm sure many other apps to do the same thing, but I can guarantee you that most people here use Titanium Backup.
This sums it up for me.
"On paper the iPhone 6's specs are mediocre, there's nothing special about 1GB of RAM, nothing special about a 2GHz quad-core CPU, and there's nothing special about a 1,810 mAh battery. The only thing truly staggering about the iPhone 6 is how much Apple are charging for the right to own barely more than a high-to-mid-range phone."
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-vs-lg-g3-full-specs-comparison/#ixzz3D6Lap97T
It's really simple to root G3 and to remove bloatware with for example Titanium backup. As in, really simple. So don't worry about that.
lossah said:
It's really simple to root G3 and to remove bloatware with for example Titanium backup. As in, really simple. So don't worry about that.
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Thanks guys. Is it this way with all android phones or just this phone.
Also do you guys like the G3? Would you get it now if you were looking for a phone?
Stigga said:
Thanks guys. Is it this way with all android phones or just this phone.
Also do you guys like the G3? Would you get it now if you were looking for a phone?
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About buying this phone:
Yes, IF its possible to remove this lag completely, and I think it is. I'm pretty sure it's because of the LG UI. As far as I know the s805 version also has UI lag.
And yes, if our lovely devs find a way to unlock the bootloader, since I'm one of those who likes to try roms out, "sadly".
But I bought this phone thanks to the big and beautiful display with really thin bezels, removable battery and SD card slot.
lossah said:
About buying this phone:
Yes, IF its possible to remove this lag completely, and I think it is. I'm pretty sure it's because of the LG UI. As far as I know the s805 version also has UI lag.
And yes, if our lovely devs find a way to unlock the bootloader, since I'm one of those who likes to try roms out, "sadly".
But I bought this phone thanks to the big and beautiful display with really thin bezels, removable battery and SD card slot.
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Oh man there is a lot of lag?
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Oh man there is a lot of lag?
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Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
lossah said:
Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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Haha I like that
lossah said:
Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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lol "not at all" ?? or "there is"?? you're not making sense my friend!
Iphone 6 the 2012 model released 2 years late lol
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If you go with the G3, get the 32gig model for the extra ram, I got the 16gig 2gigRAM model, wish I could have gotten the extra RAM
Also in terms of brightness, I've never maxed out the brightness in my daily use (haven't had the need), so not sure why people are complaining about brightness :/
Blaster1984 said:
lol "not at all" ?? or "there is"?? you're not making sense my friend!
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He said "lot of lag". It's not "lot of lag" but there is lag. Its not lag FREE.
What's so hard to understand?
AC5L4T3R said:
This sums it up for me.
"On paper the iPhone 6's specs are mediocre, there's nothing special about 1GB of RAM, nothing special about a 2GHz quad-core CPU, and there's nothing special about a 1,810 mAh battery. The only thing truly staggering about the iPhone 6 is how much Apple are charging for the right to own barely more than a high-to-mid-range phone."
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-vs-lg-g3-full-specs-comparison/#ixzz3D6Lap97T
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Until android (now byte code and java etc) will be full ART- the answer is iPhone (run native code). There is no way that apps run on google's Android RT virtual machine can be smooth and lag free like ios. Hopefully L finally fix the historical issue. We cannot compare processors, memory or battery because ios architecture doesn't need hi spec hardware due to this native code. Android has to do 'much' more.
lossah said:
Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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I am a bit like that because I am used to WP and compared to windows everything is slow.
prfraczek said:
Until android (now byte code and java etc) will be full ART- the answer is iPhone (run native code). There is no way that apps run on google's Android RT virtual machine can be smooth and lag free like ios. Hopefully L finally fix the historical issue. We cannot compare processors, memory or battery because ios architecture doesn't need hi spec hardware due to this native code. Android has to do 'much' more.
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Still. They charge an amazingly high amount for the hardware they pack inside, sure the phone runs smooth and is comparable with devices with higher specs, but it seems like they could do a little better if they lowered the price. Unless they spend a tone on advertising, that would explain the high prices lol
So happy it came in today. Came from an s7e previously before that I had the Moto x pure and still do. I love motos cell phones and this one is great.
Got any questions?
PS using with att
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I just got mine today as well. Everything appears to be working fine so the next step will be to root. Hopefully some devs will come later on and we can get CM or AICP on here.
jon7701 said:
I just got mine today as well. Everything appears to be working fine so the next step will be to root. Hopefully some devs will come later on and we can get CM or AICP on here.
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Not gonna plan on rooting mine I stopped rooting after my moto x, have no need for it. I'll just wait for Android 7
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Personally, I dont use google services anymore (not even search), so I like to remove all google apps. I also like to use ad away and xposed on stock android.
StreetkillnHD said:
So happy it came in today. Came from an s7e previously before that I had the Moto x pure and still do. I love motos cell phones and this one is great.
Got any questions?
PS using with att
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Yeah I have some.
1. Any features or specs you miss coming from the S7e? Main thing I think I'll miss are the screen clarity and shape.
2. What Data speeds are you getting? Seems like the US version is limited on ATT.
Thanks a bunch hope you like it and that battery life.
Burn Stains said:
Yeah I have some.
1. Any features or specs you miss coming from the S7e? Main thing I think I'll miss are the screen clarity and shape.
2. What Data speeds are you getting? Seems like the US version is limited on ATT.
Thanks a bunch hope you like it and that battery life.
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Not him, but for the speeds on ATT, it seems to work fine, iirc i think i was able to get 19 mbps on this phone before i lost data. I also live in a not so populated city though, so it would probably be faster in a major city.
jon7701 said:
Not him, but for the speeds on ATT, it seems to work fine, iirc i think i was able to get 19 mbps on this phone before i lost data. I also live in a not so populated city though, so it would probably be faster in a major city.
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Not bad, I actually found a thread about the unlocked US version having more LTE bands than listed on the websites so it seems like it's all good for full compatibility.
Burn Stains said:
Yeah I have some.
1. Any features or specs you miss coming from the S7e? Main thing I think I'll miss are the screen clarity and shape.
2. What Data speeds are you getting? Seems like the US version is limited on ATT.
Thanks a bunch hope you like it and that battery life.
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Honestly I don't miss because I can switch back and forth if I like but I can't really compare both because they are two completely different devices the moto play is basically a mid end as for s7e is a high end.
But what I like about this phone is the battery life is fantastic so far better than what my s7e was getting and I'm sure it's because it's not a qhd display. I also bought this device because of the motor mods and can't wait to get my hands on some. I also like the feel of the phone it actually feels solid and feels like something is in my hands the s7e was pretty light and thin. Also the camera on this device isn't bad at all way better than my moto x pure.
And about the speeds well I can say I haven't been getting LTE in some areas I should as I was with my s7e maybe it'll be fixed with an update I'ma guess?
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jon7701 said:
I just got mine today as well. Everything appears to be working fine so the next step will be to root. Hopefully some devs will come later on and we can get CM or AICP on here.
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I've always been rooting all the smartphones i've owned so far, for bloatware, battery and speed improvements, but the Moto Z Play's battery is already awesome and it's almost stock Android (apart for one or another Motorola software that comes with it), thus I'm almost giving up the root.
Apart from the customization that you get with rooting, what's the benefit you expect rooting this phone? I couldn't find a reason yet =)
arides said:
I've always been rooting all the smartphones i've owned so far, for bloatware, battery and speed improvements, but the Moto Z Play's battery is already awesome and it's almost stock Android (apart for one or another Motorola software that comes with it), thus I'm almost giving up the root.
Apart from the customization that you get with rooting, what's the benefit you expect rooting this phone? I couldn't find a reason yet =)
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Ad blocking and ability to add and remove system apps. I dont use google services, so I like to remove google apps if im using stock. Especially since google services is notorious for using a lot of battery for seemingly nothing. A word of warning if you do choose to root, I would wait because some people (including myself) have had issues with having no data after rooting.
jon7701 said:
Ad blocking and ability to add and remove system apps. I dont use google services, so I like to remove google apps if im using stock. Especially since google services is notorious for using a lot of battery for seemingly nothing. A word of warning if you do choose to root, I would wait because some people (including myself) have had issues with having no data after rooting.
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That's pretty interest! I've removed the carrier and manufacturer bloatware before, but never Google services, I'll look further into their battery usage and eventually also remove whatever Google service I won't miss or download replacements.
Do you think it'd be best to wait an easy "official" way to root the device? Whenever I root, I backup all my stuff.
StreetkillnHD said:
So happy it came in today. Came from an s7e previously before that I had the Moto x pure and still do. I love motos cell phones and this one is great.
Got any questions?
PS using with att
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Yes I have some questions please. (I have a Pure too)
1) Do you think we will have the same problems of no tempered glass availability (at least ones that work properly).
2) Does it have a 2.5D curved display like the pure?
3) What is the difference in the overall feel of the device compared to the pure?
4) Performance wise have you noticed any issues with the Snapdragon 625?
Aleycat said:
Yes I have some questions please. (I have a Pure too)
1) Do you think we will have the same problems of no tempered glass availability (at least ones that work properly).
2) Does it have a 2.5D curved display like the pure?
3) What is the difference in the overall feel of the device compared to the pure?
4) Performance wise have you noticed any issues with the Snapdragon 625?
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I can only speak to the performance of the 625... It's awesome. I have a difficult time getting this phone to lag. I can if I'm truly trying to. But in normal use it never ever bogs down
Aleycat said:
Yes I have some questions please. (I have a Pure too)
1) Do you think we will have the same problems of no tempered glass availability (at least ones that work properly).
2) Does it have a 2.5D curved display like the pure?
3) What is the difference in the overall feel of the device compared to the pure?
4) Performance wise have you noticed any issues with the Snapdragon 625?
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I found several tempered glass screen protectors on Amazon and ordered a set to test...I will let you know how that goes when I get them tomorrow.
The screen edge does have a slight curve to it...not sure if its 2.5 D...but there is definitely a taper.
Do not own the Pure...so cannot answer to that
Performance wise...I see zero lag and the device has not seemed to struggle or heat up under moderate to heavy usage.
No root adblocking. This is the first phone I haven't had a desire to root. I'm amazed.
https://block-this.com/
arides said:
That's pretty interest! I've removed the carrier and manufacturer bloatware before, but never Google services, I'll look further into their battery usage and eventually also remove whatever Google service I won't miss or download replacements.
Do you think it'd be best to wait an easy "official" way to root the device? Whenever I root, I backup all my stuff.
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I would wait until we have a new version of TWRP and not the chinese version, and yes I would wait until we have a more official method. Backups will NOT save you from losing your data or service out right currently. I tried restoring my EFS, boot, and system partitions and still cannot get data or even boot.
Aleycat said:
Yes I have some questions please. (I have a Pure too)
1) Do you think we will have the same problems of no tempered glass availability (at least ones that work properly).
2) Does it have a 2.5D curved display like the pure?
3) What is the difference in the overall feel of the device compared to the pure?
4) Performance wise have you noticed any issues with the Snapdragon 625?
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1) Having both phones, I just ordered a glass screen protector and will report back if it fits correctly.
2) It does have a very subtle curve near the edge, but its not nearly as much as the Moto X pure had, its actually kinda hard to notice and if you werent looking for it you would think the glass was completely flat.
3) If you mean feel as in how it feels in the hand, it feels slightly higher quality, about the same weight but maybe a bit lighter somehow, a nicer screen despite being lower resolution (you wont notice pixels at all unless you look very VERY hard), about the same hight, width, and thinkness (except this phone is flat and doesnt have the curve on the back to make it feel thinner), speaker quality is good, but only a bit quieter and not stereo, the camera is better and can actually record in 1080p at 120 fps with modifications. You also probably wont notice the slightly smaller screen size (atleast I dont) from 5.7 in to 5.5 in.
4)For performance, I dont notice a difference at all, the moto x pure did everything I wanted it to do without lagging, and this phone does everything as well without lagging. I dont play games though so it might be different in terms of gpu performance but I wouldnt assume by very much. The only performance difference I noticed is that this phone supports 4k playback in certian formats where as the moto x pure did not and turned the video into a slide show.
Edit: I just got my tempered glass screen protector and it does NOT cover the entire glass. It covers about 90% and leaves exposed the area between the flash and camera and along the edges. The area around the edges can be covered by a case though if you use one.
Xsoldier2000 said:
No root adblocking. This is the first phone I haven't had a desire to root. I'm amazed.
https://block-this.com/
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Me either! I've been listening wonders about the battery and the performance of this almost stock phone (mine's still on it's way) and I've been having a hard time trying to understand why to root this device. Either way, without root if the battery already takes two days to discharge, imagine in a rooted device with only what you allow to run in it!
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I would wait until we have a new version of TWRP and not the chinese version, and yes I would wait until we have a more official method. Backups will NOT save you from losing your data or service out right currently. I tried restoring my EFS, boot, and system partitions and still cannot get data or even boot.
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Oh i see! I'll wait then, it gives me more time to get to know the phone =)
jon7701 said:
I would wait until we have a new version of TWRP and not the chinese version, and yes I would wait until we have a more official method. Backups will NOT save you from losing your data or service out right currently. I tried restoring my EFS, boot, and system partitions and still cannot get data or even boot.
1) Having both phones, I just ordered a glass screen protector and will report back if it fits correctly.
2) It does have a very subtle curve near the edge, but its not nearly as much as the Moto X pure had, its actually kinda hard to notice and if you werent looking for it you would think the glass was completely flat.
3) If you mean feel as in how it feels in the hand, it feels slightly higher quality, about the same weight but maybe a bit lighter somehow, a nicer screen despite being lower resolution (you wont notice pixels at all unless you look very VERY hard), about the same hight, width, and thinkness (except this phone is flat and doesnt have the curve on the back to make it feel thinner), speaker quality is good, but only a bit quieter and not stereo, the camera is better and can actually record in 1080p at 120 fps with modifications. You also probably wont notice the slightly smaller screen size (atleast I dont) from 5.7 in to 5.5 in.
4)For performance, I dont notice a difference at all, the moto x pure did everything I wanted it to do without lagging, and this phone does everything as well without lagging. I dont play games though so it might be different in terms of gpu performance but I wouldnt assume by very much. The only performance difference I noticed is that this phone supports 4k playback in certian formats where as the moto x pure did not and turned the video into a slide show.
Edit: I just got my tempered glass screen protector and it does NOT cover the entire glass. It covers about 90% and leaves exposed the area between the flash and camera and along the edges. The area around the edges can be covered by a case though if you use one.
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Thanks for the detailed answer. Covering 90% of the screen is fine bu me as long as it doesn't Halo at the sides like my Pure did. One of the main gripes I had with my pure was the lack of support for good accessories.
Will samsung a50 get vetter with updates because right now its little bit slugish ...i think poco f1 for is better
What do u guys think
If u have samsung a50 would u exchange it with pocof1 if u r offered the extra money u paid for it ?
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Will samsung a50 get vetter with updates because right now its little bit slugish ...i think poco f1 for is better
What do u guys think
If u have samsung a50 would u exchange it with pocof1 if u r offered the extra money u paid for it ?
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What do you mean by sluggish? I think Samsung Galaxy a50 is better in terms of build quality, display, "one UI", camera and, last but not the least, DEDICATED sd card slot.
stark1296 said:
What do you mean by sluggish? I think Samsung Galaxy a50 is better in terms of build quality, display, "one UI", camera and, last but not the least, DEDICATED sd card slot.
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I could experince while playing pubg in max setting
And sometimes while multitasking the ui just lags a little
The gestures arent smooth enough
Everything could be refined more with software optimization i think
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I could experince while playing pubg in max setting
And sometimes while multitasking the ui just lags a little
The gestures arent smooth enough
Everything could be refined more with software optimization i think
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PUBG hdr graphics aren't fully supported by a50's processors and Mali g72. That can't be called as sluggish.
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PUBG hdr graphics aren't fully supported by a50's processors and Mali g72. That can't be called as sluggish.
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By sluggish i meant day to day usage
And hdr is available in option of graphics
Sometime frame drop are seen in intervals of gameplay
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By sluggish i meant day to day usage
And hdr is available in option of graphics
Sometime frame drop are seen in intervals of gameplay
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I know that hdr is available in the graphics settings but still, the support isn't perfect. It is a known thing that hdr graphics cause lags in a50.
Samsung has good brand value. When people ask which phone u have u can say Samsung but if u say poco phone the non tech people will say "pocco phone? What's that"
Lol it happened with me several times...
The highlight of a50 is the superb super amoled screen which is really good when playing games and watching movies.
mudassarfa said:
Samsung has good brand value. When people ask which phone u have u can say Samsung but if u say poco phone the non tech people will say "pocco phone? What's that"
Lol it happened with me several times...
The highlight of a50 is the superb super amoled screen which is really good when playing games and watching movies.
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Plus, a "DEDICATED" SD card slot and "bundled in box" fast charger.
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Plus, a "DEDICATED" SD card slot and "bundled in box" fast charger.
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Yes, any smartphone with HYBRID sim-tray is useless. So, the Poco F1 is a bad product.
manos78 said:
Yes, any smartphone with HYBRID sim-tray is useless. So, the Poco F1 is a bad product.
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Lol, it's useless for you doesn't mean it's useless for everyone.
Mr.Ak said:
Lol, it's useless for you doesn't mean it's useless for everyone.
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Cons of Poco:
Old design.
No Dolby.
Smaller and IPS LCD display.
Hybrid slot.
No NFC.
Has got one major update so won't be supported much now.
Fake, so called stereo speakers (mi the lier).
Expandable is way too less than a50.
Miui has ads, it collects private info.
Has high SAR value (injurious to user's health).
I am seriously planning on getting the A50 tomorrow. Can someone comment on the bloatware? Many people say there's many preinstalled apps and pop up ads... I have a huawei and the only thing i can say is wtf if this is true
Bloatware is understandable, but forced popups?
and which of those bloatware apps can be uninstalled and which can't
Any input from owners would be appreciated
Moemen Shahawy said:
I am seriously planning on getting the A50 tomorrow. Can someone comment on the bloatware? Many people say there's many preinstalled apps and pop up ads... I have a huawei and the only thing i can say is wtf if this is true
Bloatware is understandable, but forced popups?
and which of those bloatware apps can be uninstalled and which can't
Any input from owners would be appreciated
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I sold my Poco and ordered this yesterday and would receive that in the next few days. W.r.t Bloatware, you can always uninstall them with the "pm uninstall" command imo. Pop up ads i am not sure as this is new to me but i guess, those would be ads from the bloatware that you install from the initial setup. If chosen wisely during the initial setup, you could always avoid them. All in all this is great device within the right budget for light to average users like me.
Sukhi said:
I sold my Poco and ordered this yesterday and would receive that in the next few days. W.r.t Bloatware, you can always uninstall them with the "pm uninstall" command imo. Pop up ads i am not sure as this is new to me but i guess, those would be ads from the bloatware that you install from the initial setup. If chosen wisely during the initial setup, you could always avoid them. All in all this is great device within the right budget for light to average users like me.
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Yep. Good setup can relieve you of all the ads but be very very careful while setting it up. Still, I would suggest going through this video once, helped me too.
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Moemen Shahawy said:
I am seriously planning on getting the A50 tomorrow. Can someone comment on the bloatware? Many people say there's many preinstalled apps and pop up ads... I have a huawei and the only thing i can say is wtf if this is true
Bloatware is understandable, but forced popups?
and which of those bloatware apps can be uninstalled and which can't
Any input from owners would be appreciated
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See above for ads.
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Will samsung a50 get vetter with updates because right now its little bit slugish ...i think poco f1 for is better
What do u guys think
If u have samsung a50 would u exchange it with pocof1 if u r offered the extra money u paid for it ?
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Depends on personal preference , if you want a better display and better selfie camera and want to compromise performance go for A50
If you want insane performance go for Poco F1
Anyways u should wait if u are planning to buy Poco F1 because Poco f2 is coming
I had to make the same decision and went with the A50 because my primary use case was reading and watching for which the AMOLED screen is indispensable. Also Samsung's support so far has been great as 2 updates have been rolled out since my purchase which have improved the camera, fingerprint reader performance to some extent while updating to the latest security patch. At the same time, Samsung's One UI is the best Android interface I have encountered till date.
The Poco F1 is only an option if you need the grunt to play games. It is heavier, uglier, cheaply built, has an issue-riddled screen and MIUI has generally been lagging behind in terms of design and usability for years now. As you can imagine, I don't game on the phone and use an iPhone for camera duties, so those were things that I didn't think about much but might be of significant consideration to others.
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Will samsung a50 get vetter with updates because right now its little bit slugish ...i think poco f1 for is better
What do u guys think
If u have samsung a50 would u exchange it with pocof1 if u r offered the extra money u paid for it ?
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poco f1 is better in every aspect except screen. amoled screen is waaaay beyond IPS for watching/reading stuff. can't beat real blacks arun!
kkarakk said:
poco f1 is better in every aspect except screen. amoled screen is waaaay beyond IPS for watching/reading stuff. can't beat real blacks arun!
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Also software. One ui and the display is one of the main reasons i bought the A50.
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Also software. One ui and the display is one of the main reasons i bought the A50.
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Apart from these, there are few other finer details people often overlook. Build Quality, Weight, Ease of Single Hand Use, Quality of components used etc. Xiaomi can for sure derive sales but can never compete with Samsung in quality.
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Has the Poco F1 a non-hybrid-try?
Hi. I've had the phone for a bit more than two weeks now, and especially the past week this phone has been unbearably laggy. At times, video playback will lag behind audio (not on bluetooth or anything), app transitions are extremely sluggish, and anything to do with camera cannot even come close to sustaining 60fps. I'm not even playing games or doing anything intensive on this phone, just social media and taking pictures here and there. I haven't used any ADB debloating tool due to the fear that it'll break functionality, but if that helps i'll take a go at it. Has anyone been experiencing similar performance issues with the Exynos model? I am seriously regretting "upgrading" from my broken OnePlus 6T, at 3 years old it was so much more performant than my S22. How would I even go about diagnosing this? Thanks in advance.
During set-up of the phone,did you use Smart Sitch to restore a back-up of any data ?
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During set-up of the phone,did you use Smart Sitch to restore a back-up of any data ?
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No, I've set up everything from scratch. I've tried increasing RAM+ to 8GB from the default 4, but it hasn't helped.
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No, I've set up everything from scratch. I've tried increasing RAM+ to 8GB from the default 4, but it hasn't helped.
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I'm pretty sure increasing the RAM+ value, which essentially represents the swap memory, your phone slows down because you're using more of your phone's storage for things the RAM memory should take care of. 8GB is plenty enough for daily usage. There's no need for what Samsung did.
Try turning the feature off altogether with "adb shell settings put global ram_expand_size_list 0"
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I'm pretty sure increasing the RAM+ value, which essentially represents the swap memory, your phone slows down because you're using more of your phone's storage for things the RAM memory should take care of. 8GB is plenty enough for daily usage. There's no need for what Samsung did.
Try turning the feature off altogether with "adb shell settings put global ram_expand_size_list 0"
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I've read this somewhere else as well (with how much bloat there is in OneUI I thought maybe they put the RAM+ feature there for a reason), I'll try to run it with 0 for a while and report back. Still, could this actually be the cause for this much stuttering?
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I've read this somewhere else as well (with how much bloat there is in OneUI I thought maybe they put the RAM+ feature there for a reason), I'll try to run it with 0 for a while and report back. Still, could this actually be the cause for this much stuttering?
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Sorry! 0 actually sets it to default, which is 4gb. Set it to 2 from the settings, reboot and see how that goes.
Try reading this thing. It should give you an idea of what Ram+ is. While you're at it, got to the first page and have a look there. It's a very detailed thread on what you need to do to either get rid of the bloatware, tweak your phone and so on, without root.
[DISCONTINUED] Samsung Galaxy One UI - Optimization Guide
THIS IS A SUGGESTED CONFIGURATION FOR SAMSUNG DEVICES OUT OF SUPPORT/CLOSED I - RECOMMENDED SETTINGS To Start With - Factory Reset before starting optimisations - Factory Reset after every Major update (One UI/Android) - Remove SIM before first...
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dragos281993 said:
Sorry! 0 actually sets it to default, which is 4gb. Set it to 2 from the settings, reboot and see how that goes.
Try reading this thing. It should give you an idea of what Ram+ is. While you're at it, got to the first page and have a look there. It's a very detailed thread on what you need to do to either get rid of the bloatware, tweak your phone and so on, without root.
[DISCONTINUED] Samsung Galaxy One UI - Optimization Guide
THIS IS A SUGGESTED CONFIGURATION FOR SAMSUNG DEVICES OUT OF SUPPORT/CLOSED I - RECOMMENDED SETTINGS To Start With - Factory Reset before starting optimisations - Factory Reset after every Major update (One UI/Android) - Remove SIM before first...
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Okay, good to know. I'll go through the thread (the message you sent was also helpful, I assumed it'd do the swapping once the memory is full) and debloat this as much as I could. But I still have to ask, is this the performance that I was supposed to expect from an 800€ phone?
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Okay, good to know. I'll go through the thread (the message you sent was also helpful, I assumed it'd do the swapping once the memory is full) and debloat this as much as I could. But I still have to ask, is this the performance that I was supposed to expect from an 800€ phone?
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I cancelled my preorder of the Exynos S22 because it took too long. I then ordered it from a store that brings international variants of all sorts of phones. My current S22 is from Hong Kong (TGY). What did I notice while using the phone? The battery life is TERRIBLE. I come from an iPhone 13 Pro which I used for almost 4 months but got rid of because of iOS. That thing was insanely good. I had absolutely no worries about the battery wherever I went and no matter what I was doing on it, because it was that good. Before that I used a Pixel 5, which was also the first phone which changed the way I charged my phone. Based on my usage, a full charge lasted me about 85-90% of what the iPhone lasted, so it was pretty close. This thing, TERRIBLE. I rooted it and cut the frequencies of all 3 core clusters almost in half to get half an hour more and get a little over 4h SOT.
So to answer your question, no it's definitely not worth it. I paid for this piece of rubbish 920€. Based on the experience I had so far, I wouldn't pay more than 600€ on it. I even wanted to return it and was looking to go back to a Pixel 5 which I regret selling in the first place, but after taking it out of the original white bumper case, in which I put it the second I unboxed the damn thing, I noticed small scratches all around the aluminium frame, which is supposed to be able to withstand a nuclear blast, based on Samsung's marketing BS. So the store tagged it as non-returnable because it's not "as new" anymore.
In conclusion, this is a terrible phone just because the battery is too small and the chipset is too inefficient for it, incompatible. And you are even "luckier" with your Exynos variant. FYI, Samsung sold SD variants of the S22 lienup in Koreea this time. Probably they didn't want to dissapoint their own people with their experimental chipset.
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Hi. I've had the phone for a bit more than two weeks now, and especially the past week this phone has been unbearably laggy. At times, video playback will lag behind audio (not on bluetooth or anything), app transitions are extremely sluggish, and anything to do with camera cannot even come close to sustaining 60fps. I'm not even playing games or doing anything intensive on this phone, just social media and taking pictures here and there. I haven't used any ADB debloating tool due to the fear that it'll break functionality, but if that helps i'll take a go at it. Has anyone been experiencing similar performance issues with the Exynos model? I am seriously regretting "upgrading" from my broken OnePlus 6T, at 3 years old it was so much more performant than my S22. How would I even go about diagnosing this? Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
It's true, there are reports everywhere of this problem. Every media app will stutter the image for a milisecond (twitch, instagram, youtube, etc) and the sound gets out of sync. A reboot works only for a couple of hours. Changing the ram will not solve this.
There are a lot of reports of this issue on the members app and they are aware of it. They say a patch will come but a lot has passed and the phone is almost unsuable for me. If I could, I would have return it.
I suggest you also report this on your members app.
gonsa said:
Hi,
It's true, there are reports everywhere of this problem. Every media app will stutter the image for a milisecond (twitch, instagram, youtube, etc) and the sound gets out of sync. A reboot works only for a couple of hours. Changing the ram will not solve this.
There are a lot of reports of this issue on the members app and they are aware of it. They say a patch will come but a lot has passed and the phone is almost unsuable for me. If I could, I would have return it.
I suggest you also report this on your members app.
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Damn, I went through a billion reviews before getting this thing, none of them mentioned this. It's been almost a month since I got the phone so I probably can't return it. And even if I could, I really don't have the time to switch phones, with banking apps and backups and crap it takes too much time for me to just constantly jump between ROMs or phones. Was the S21 this bad as well? How is everyone even recommending Samsung phones to people?
There was an update relased today. I installed it and checked the performace right away.
It's still there! every video starts with a micro stutter. What the hell Samsung...
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There was an update relased today. I installed it and checked the performace right away.
It's still there! every video starts with a micro stutter. What the hell Samsung...
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I just got the update as well. I'll try to install it but from your comments doesn't seem hopeful to actually help the issue. Still nice that they're this fast with updates though.
Side question, does video quality suck for you guys? Especially with the ultrawide, I get 2013-quality videos with a ton of artifacts, and its not even 60fps? (shows up at 41fps on file details).
Galaxy S22 has audio-video sync issues that need to be fixed
Samsung's latest Galaxy S22 flagship series is pretty darn good, but it is not perfect. Some lingering performance and stability ...
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Being fan and satisfied with Xiaomi for 6 years, I returned to Samsung (S22, exynos) 2 weeks ago to realize the biggest mistake I did! It charges slow, battery drain fast, multitasking gets slow, camera is disappointing at night and sticky in fast hand motions. Generally you can't count on it!
900€ trash 🫣. I can't even sell it .
Never, NEVER again Samsung.
Agree with everything that's been said here. I returned the s22 exynos and got my money back. I'm back to the s10e snapdragon version that works flawlessly with no lag, stable 60fps at games. The s22 is just a beautiful device but it doesn't work well at all, games suck hard playing on it at like 35-40 fps with lots of frame drops, and I dont think the updates are going to make any miracles with all this experimental hardware. A lot of stupid marketing on useless 4nanometres cpu that overheats and suffers from throttling. Are you kidding me?
I'm very happy with this s10e hongkong version, 3 years, updated to 4.0 and soon 4.1. After trying the s22 I found out that's not for what l had Samsung in mind due to my previous good user experience.
By the way: I debloated it as I know what to delete and what to keep not to lose any functionality. Battery wasn't as bad as other users, I was getting about 5-6h sot in 12-15h usage, but the phone lags bad in games and some menus. It has unforgivable issues as the desynchronized sound/video in youtube n other stuff for such a high price. Samsung ain't getting my money this time. Let's wait for pixel7- s22 Fe - Nothing Phone (1)
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ps: I believe it's a bad year regarding CPU. The 888 and 8gen1 are known for heating and eating more battery. So far the s21 series are better than the current s22, the pixel 6 series got some issues as well and yet another experimental CPU. One of the best choices is still the oneplus 8T? Come on. Wake up android market, some oldschool users are migrating to apple, which isn't on my plans personally.
Not that it's gonna change anything, but here's an update: the lag's worse than ever, audio playback will cut out randomly, media playback on the notification panel barely works. I still can't believe nobody outside this thread is talking about how despicable this phone is.
After the latest avda update with tons of debloating, the phone is running almost like a midrange phone.
I will keep it due to the size factor and cameras. But this is really unacceptable for the money asked.
xjust said:
After the latest avda update with tons of debloating, the phone is running almost like a midrange phone.
I will keep it due to the size factor and cameras. But this is really unacceptable for the money asked.
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Same here. Way too late to return it, nor do I have the time to go through the whole find a phone set up a phone process anyway. I'm gonna try to keep it as pristine as possible until the S23 and/or the Pixel 7 is out and see if I can trade-in for a reasonable price.
for me, it might be the iphone 14 pro
I'm missing tons of notifications and alarms now. This phone just keeps getting worse.