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G3 or G4?

I've been struggling to make a decision between the G3 and the G4. The G4 obviously is the newer device with the better specs, but I didn't see any (official) cyanogenmod support yet for it, whereas the G3 has that going for it already. Having some custom roms available is a killer feature for me in a device. I already read that even only the european version (I'm from Germany) of the G4 can be rooted - is that the reason why there are next to no custom ROMs or kernels at all?
Do you recommend the G3 if I'm going for customizability or is the G4 going to get CM support eventually?
Thanks in advance for any help

vadsvads said:
I've been struggling to make a decision between the G3 and the G4. The G4 obviously is the newer device with the better specs, but I didn't see any (official) cyanogenmod support yet for it, whereas the G3 has that going for it already. Having some custom roms available is a killer feature for me in a device. I already read that even only the european version (I'm from Germany) of the G4 can be rooted - is that the reason why there are next to no custom ROMs or kernels at all?
Do you recommend the G3 if I'm going for customizability or is the G4 going to get CM support eventually?
Thanks in advance for any help
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No idea about CM but I think we all have root now. I am using the Canadian model (H812) and we have root but no unlocked bootloader.
We flash things using FlashFire since we can't install TWRP. No idea about roms, I don't use them.

If you're looking for strictly customization you won't find much for the G4. Maybe you'd be satisfied with what's available as far as themes, Xposed, etc.
You can change things up quite a bit, but it's pretty far from a custom rom or kernels. If you're not in a rush maybe wait it out a bit to see if the G4 scene improves. In my opinion it's the much better device out of the two. If anything when you do buy the prices could be lower.
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I would also like to add that flashing roms can get old after a while. On my G2 and previous phones I was constantly flashing and changing things. Seemed like everything was buggy in one way or another. In the end I was happier with a nice phone where everything worked the way it should.
With the G4 I'm pretty happy with the stock software, sure I rooted and changed a few things appearance wise, and removed a lot of bloat ware. I'm stuck with a stock rom and recovery(stupid Verizon model), but that's ok!
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@rick09 Why do you think it's better? Other reasons besides performance?
But the G3 should still be a good phone, right? Currently, I've got an HTC One M7, on which the battery lift has gotten quite horrible... Now I don't really know what to get - I've thought about these (In brackets my concerns about them):
Moto X Play (No replaceable battery)
Oppo R7 Plus (Last gen processor, Huge but unreplacable battery)
LG G3 (Nice overall, but the G4 is newer)
LG G4 (No CM support yet)
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vadsvads said:
@rick09 Why do you think it's better? Other reasons besides performance?
But the G3 should still be a good phone, right? Currently, I've got an HTC One M7, on which the battery lift has gotten quite horrible... Now I don't really know what to get - I've thought about these (In brackets my concerns about them):
Moto X Play (No replaceable battery)
Oppo R7 Plus (Last gen processor, Huge but unreplacable battery)
LG G3 (Nice overall, but the G4 is newer)
LG G4 (No CM support yet)
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Ok look, if you're going to buy one of these phones so go with the G4 H815 (not any other model! because of unlockable bootloader) it will get the cm very soon, the development is very fast,
BUT if custom roms are you're thing and you can't live without it so don't but lg at all, go for the oneplus 2 or the new nexus devices the n5x or the n6p

solokiller11 said:
Ok look, if you're going to buy one of these phones so go with the G4 H815 (not any other model! because of unlockable bootloader) it will get the cm very soon, the development is very fast
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No, I'm totally fine with CM, but will it really be actively developed given that only a small portion of the G4 users can really use it?
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vadsvads said:
No, I'm totally fine with CM, but will it really be actively developed given that only a small portion of the G4 users can really use it?
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Is it will be and also bliss is in development but it will take a little more time to be really stable
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solokiller11 said:
Is it will be and also bliss is in development but it will take a little more time to be really stable
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Thanks for your help How's your battery life? That sweet 4100mAh on the Oppo R7 Plus is really tempting
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vadsvads said:
Thanks for your help How's your battery life? That sweet 4100mAh on the Oppo R7 Plus is really tempting
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The battery is enough for the day but every night I have to charge it, not a problam at all!
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solokiller11 said:
The battery is enough for the day but every night I have to charge it, not a problam at all!
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Oh, I'm totally charging overnight. I also have a pretty huge powerbank with me all day, so that shouldn't be a problem. On my current M7 though, when my screen is on, my battery even drains while charging
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vadsvads said:
Currently, I've got an HTC One M7, on which the battery lift has gotten quite horrible... Now I don't really know what to get - I've thought about these (In brackets my concerns about them)
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Why not just get your m7 battery changed then and stick with it ?
after two years its not going to be as good as new.

One Twelve said:
Why not just get your m7 battery changed then and stick with it ?
after two years its not going to be as good as new.
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The M7 is by no means a bad device but changing the battery is nearly impossible on that thing. Also, because of a hardware failure which affected the whole M7 series, all my low-light photos look like this which renders the camera totally unusable is some situation. The strongest reason for me wanting to get a new device is that my employer will pay it though, so I'm going to get a new phone anyways, it's just that i've only got a certain budget and the G4 would fit the bill, I think

vadsvads said:
The M7 is by no means a bad device but changing the battery is nearly impossible on that thing. Also, because of a hardware failure which affected the whole M7 series, all my low-light photos look like this which renders the camera totally unusable is some situation.
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Service centre ? they do this work. replacing a camera module is no big deal either.
The strongest reason for me wanting to get a new device is that my employer will pay it though, so I'm going to get a new phone anyways, it's just that i've only got a certain budget and the G4 would fit the bill, I think
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What do you like about the G4 ? seems you are more interested in roms.

One Twelve said:
What do you like about the G4 ? seems you are more interested in roms.
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I'm not sure I'm even allowed to root the device since it's from my employer - Otherwise, the G4 is just an upgraded version of the G3, isn't it?
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vadsvads said:
I'm not sure I'm even allowed to root the device since it's from my employer - Otherwise, the G4 is just an upgraded version of the G3, isn't it?
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What made you choose LG ?

One Twelve said:
What made you choose LG ?
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Why do you wanna know? I just compared multiple phones (like the ones I already listed above) and I just like LGs approach when it comes to the removable battery and the choice to expand the storage via microSD
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vadsvads said:
Why do you wanna know? I just compared multiple phones (like the ones I already listed above) and I just like LGs approach when it comes to the removable battery and the choice to expand the storage via microSD
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That's what i wanted to know because some people don't care about that. Also you did not mention any other brands so was curious.
The G3 comes in two variants, 2 & 3GB RAM with storage of 16 & 32GB. The 3GB is the better choice. They did away with this in the G4 and its just 3GB and 32GB like the G2 and optimus G earlier for storage.
The G4 has a much better camera than the G3 which is the same one used in the G2 and flex models. The G3 is a capable auto shooter but the manual controls on the G4 mean more control and better low light ability. The aperture is 80% brighter.
The screen on the G4 is also better and brighter. This you will have to see for youself to decide. Then decide whether you are ok with the slight curve on the G4 that the G3 does not have. Roms will come in time but i see a number of people who are not bothered.
Have you seen the V10 ? will be more expensive since its 4GB and 64GB only. and the manual controls of the stills camera carry over to the video side as well. This right now isn't possible on the G4. The V10 is a little bigger though.
How much battery do you need ? mention your expected SOT/runtime.

I have H815 and have root, unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP, please, get the G4. Getting a G3 is pointless. Think of the G4 as an optimised G3.

I had the g3 for a few days and it was full of lag and heat. Screen was also bad!
The G4 is a totally different phone. Everything about it is better except for size.

NocturnalDroid said:
I have H815 and have root, unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP, please, get the G4. Getting a G3 is pointless. Think of the G4 as an optimised G3.
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Thanks for your feedback
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Have you seen the V10 ? will be more expensive since its 4GB and 64GB only. and the manual controls of the stills camera carry over to the video side as well. This right now isn't possible on the G4. The V10 is a little bigger though.
How much battery do you need ? mention your expected SOT/runtime.
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I did hear about the V10, of course, but that will, at least on release, be way out of my price range of about 400-500€ I can use from my employer. Also, I can't add from my own money because law restrictions and stuff.
Battery-wise, I'm quite the heavy user - I commute about 2 hours a day by bus and have the screen on almost all the time, but battery's not really a concern for me as I have a 13k mAh powerbank and the possibility to charge at work.
I was also considering a Galaxy Note 3 or 4, as they also have microsd and a swappable battery but meh, it's TouchWiz. Also it's a teeny tiny bit too expensive for my budget.
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Want to get the G3 - few questions...

Hello all G3 users [emoji4] I'm currently using a HTC One M7 running on CM12.1 & love it (mainly because of the stereo speakers), but I want to get a new phone because this one is getting old & boring for me... I'm debating between choosing the G3 & Galaxy Note 3... The biggest thing is that I don't really like screens larger than 5" but in today's standards getting a good ~5" phone, that has good developer support is getting harder & harder to do... So as I said, I'm torn between the Note 3 & G3 (my mum has a G3s, which I like). One of the reasons to get the G3 over Note 3, is that the G3 is newer than his opponent, so I could have it even longer with good ROM support from xda, which is the biggest thing for me while choosing a phone [emoji4] I've seen that there are 2 versions of the G3 with 2GB RAM/16GB ROM & 3GB RAM/32GB ROM, so I have a question to that... Is there any other big difference between them, that would make me consider choosing the 3/32 version over the 2/16 (except the storage space ofc. (will use a sdcard anyways)) Or is it the same phone with just a bit different stuff in hardware? Also, do both of them have the same model number (D855 I assume)? I have read on here, that some people have problems that have to do with LTE... Can someone explain me that? (Just need a basic explanation, not a in depth guide). Thanks for your time, by reading all of this [emoji1]

M G3 Cat.6 user

Stachura5 said:
Hello all G3 users [emoji4] I'm currently using a HTC One M7 running on CM12.1 & love it (mainly because of the stereo speakers), but I want to get a new phone because this one is getting old & boring for me... I'm debating between choosing the G3 & Galaxy Note 3... The biggest thing is that I don't really like screens larger than 5" but in today's standards getting a good ~5" phone, that has good developer support is getting harder & harder to do... So as I said, I'm torn between the Note 3 & G3 (my mum has a G3s, which I like). One of the reasons to get the G3 over Note 3, is that the G3 is newer than his opponent, so I could have it even longer with good ROM support from xda, which is the biggest thing for me while choosing a phone [emoji4] I've seen that there are 2 versions of the G3 with 2GB RAM/16GB ROM & 3GB RAM/32GB ROM, so I have a question to that... Is there any other big difference between them, that would make me consider choosing the 3/32 version over the 2/16 (except the storage space ofc. (will use a sdcard anyways)) Or is it the same phone with just a bit different stuff in hardware? Also, do both of them have the same model number (D855 I assume)? I have read on here, that some people have problems that have to do with LTE... Can someone explain me that? (Just need a basic explanation, not a in depth guide). Thanks for your time, by reading all of this [emoji1]
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Firstly, You Should Buy 32/3Gb Variant Because 2K Screen With 2Gb Ram İs Too Low (You Probably Have 800-500mb Free Ram On 2Gb, İ Dont Know İ Have 32/3 Gb One ) İ Dont Have İssues With 4G/LTE, Because No 4G/LTE İn Turkey (4.5G/LTE-A coming in April ) there is not hardware changes between 32/3 And 16/2, Just Ram İs Lower, Both İs D855 (if europan one)
Basiccaly Some G3 Variants:
->D855 Europan One
->D852 Canadian One
->D851 T-Mobile One
->D850 At&t One
->VS985 Verzion One
->LS990 Spirint One
->US990 Us One Or Anything Like This
->F400S,K,T Korean One
->F460S,K,T Korean LTE-A One (Snap 805)
->D856 Dual LTE One
->D857 Dual Sim Korean One
->D858HK Dual Sim Chinese One

Okay, thanks for clearing up the versions of it. The biggest problem for me, in getting the G3 in Poland is that I find only 2/16 versions... Hard to find the 3/32 even if it's used, which angers me a bit... Would need to search more or wait longer & see if someone puts it up on sale [emoji52]

I suggest U to take a G3. I have used Note 3 and now using G3 Cat.6 F460s. It is on Marshmallow officially.
Battery timing is same or better than note 3. But in idol mode note 3 is better.
Note 3 heats up more than g3 while player a haevy game or videos
User interface is tooooooooo much freindly customizable in G3. While U always have knox warranty issues by destroying samsung devices(Note 3 and later only) by loosing baseband and sim card signal forever when U go to customize android system in note 3.
Quick circle case is always a gr8 option to be used it keep ur device safe, beautiful in fashion, more useful even the case is closed.
Camera result is more clear than note 3 in day or light areas but in low light note 3 is lil bit fine.
Note 3 have s pen option but U can gain that option by purchasing a universal stylus at 1 or 2 US$.
Choice is urz... I wanted to explain things being nutral.
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One of my friends have note 3. He was trying to update his devide manually but being noob he flashed official lollipop not considering baseband and his device got knox 0x1 so now his device is unrecoverable and he is using it without having any sim card signal. Tried every Jtag and box every software repairing lab is visited but not useful. Cell was out of warranty to be sent back to samsung service centre
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I could send U My G3 Cat.6 but Poland is too much far from Pakistan.... being a human I wanted to help U... U should purchase through Amazon dear friend...

khurramshahzad3003 said:
Note 3 heats up more than g3 while player a haevy game or videos
While U always have knox warranty issues by destroying samsung devices(Note 3 and later only) by loosing baseband and sim card signal forever when U go to customize android system in note 3.
Quick circle case is always a gr8 option to be used it keep ur device safe, beautiful in fashion, more useful even the case is closed.
Camera result is more clear than note 3 in day or light areas but in low light note 3 is lil bit fine.
Note 3 have s pen option but U can gain that option by purchasing a universal stylus at 1 or 2 US$.
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Hmm... I always thought that the G3 heats up more because, because of the rushed 2k screen... Well, I think I was wrong then [emoji52]
Don't really care about KNOX, gonna trip it anyways by installing custom ROMs...
The Quick circle case isn't really a big deal for me. I currently have a flipcover case on my HTC, which can act as a stand for it, which I like very much [emoji1] So I would like to have the same one for the LG
I don't really care about camera, I don't use it 99% of the time, so yeah...
Well, the S-Pen has far more features than a standard pen that can only be used as a finger replacement...

Yup U are right choice is urz... But my suggestion is that. U should not trip knox... After 0x1 no custom Rom brings back signals. I have tried all possible tricks on internet and even sent to software repairing labs... They could do anything even with custom Roms

khurramshahzad3003 said:
[/COLOR]I could send U My G3 Cat.6 but Poland is too much far from Pakistan.... being a human I wanted to help U... U should purchase through Amazon dear friend...
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Haha, would rather get it myself but thanks for the effort. Also, we have 2 popular sites in Poland where there are many electronic devices like phone etc so I search both of them. Currently I'm on the hunt for the G3 & Note 3 (16GB variant in this one) so if the G3 idea fails, I gonna go for the Note 3 then...

OfCourse Choice is urz bro

khurramshahzad3003 said:
OfCourse Choice is urz bro
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Hah, yeah I know about that... Sadly I want to have them both but my budget is what I gonna get for my HTC by selling it (maybe 25€ more), so yeah... Gonna have to think hard through this... But thanks for all the info [emoji1]

U should by a G4 I think so. Or Note 5 will be a much gr8 choice.

khurramshahzad3003 said:
U should by a G4 I think so. Or Note 5 will be a much gr8 choice.
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Yeah, would like to, but my budget is very limited & I don't work so money is a big problem for me... So the best option for the money is to get a G3/Note 3 [emoji52]

Moto G5 (XT1676) in 2020

Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.

crocodilehun said:
Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.
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If you buy an 3GB RAM model, I think you're OK.

crocodilehun said:
Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.
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Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
If you can get your hands on one look at the Moto g7 play on ebay
It's updatable to stock android 10 and probably just as cheap as this device second hand or refurbished

TheFixItMan said:
Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
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If I may ask. Does this bug affect 3rd party cameras?

R1ffR4ff said:
If I may ask. Does this bug affect 3rd party cameras?
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Effects any camera app
May have slight green tint in photos
May only be be able to take a certain amount of photos before phone/app needs restarting
Video recording may not work in some apps or may not save file correctly
QR code scanning may not work correctly
The above list is a rough bug list and may vary on a device by device basis & rom version & apps being used

TheFixItMan said:
Effects any camera app
May have slight green tint in photos
May only be be able to take a certain amount of photos before phone/app needs restarting
Video recording may not work in some apps or may not save file correctly
QR code scanning may not work correctly
The above list is a rough bug list and may vary on a device by device basis & rom version & apps being used
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Thank you for the excellent reply. I'm quite happy at the moment with the Stock Oreo on my G5 which I recently got A-grade refurbished at a decent price as my old Moto G3 is getting a bit tatty. It seems that my old G3 is better supported at the moment as I'm running 3 different Android 10 Custom roms all working good(Floko/crDroid/Havoc).
It's a shame that crDroid seem to only cover the G5 Potter and Sanders
https://crdroid.net/dl.php

TheFixItMan said:
Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
If you can get your hands on one look at the Moto g7 play on ebay
It's updatable to stock android 10 and probably just as cheap as this device second hand or refurbished
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If you buy an 3GB RAM model, I think you're OK.
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Thank you guys. Moto G7 is a bit too large for me as i would like something below 5.5. All the other phones that i've looked at are upgradeable to Oreo or Pie at best. Xcover 4s is upgreadable to Android 10, so i think ill go with that one. And all of the custom roms for other smartphones i've looked at, like LG G3 or G5 seem to have some bugs, or they are not up to date. I don't know is there a point in installing something like LineageOS 14, if that rom is out dated and has security holes in it.

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Thank you guys. Moto G7 is a bit too large for me as i would like something below 5.5. All the other phones that i've looked at are upgradeable to Oreo or Pie at best. Xcover 4s is upgreadable to Android 10, so i think ill go with that one. And all of the custom roms for other smartphones i've looked at, like LG G3 or G5 seem to have some bugs, or they are not up to date. I don't know is there a point in installing something like LineageOS 14, if that rom is out dated and has security holes in it.
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Moto g7 play screen is 5.7 Inch but probably worth the extra screen size compared with other options
LineageOS 14.1 for this device (along with stock rom) is only 32bit so you are limited to only arm-eabi armv7 apps as apposed to later devices which are armv8 and support arm64 (64 bit) out the box

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Moto g7 play screen is 5.7 Inch but probably worth the extra screen size compared with other options
LineageOS 14.1 for this device (along with stock rom) is only 32bit so you are limited to only arm-eabi armv7 apps as apposed to later devices which are armv8 and support arm64 (64 bit) out the box
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I've done some research and G7 for European market does not have removable battery, and there aren't any i can buy locally. I would like to buy locally because the shipping adds to the price. What about LG G5, would you recomend it if i put some stable and official rom on it?
Thanks in advance.

crocodilehun said:
I've done some research and G7 for European market does not have removable battery, and there aren't any i can buy locally. I would like to buy locally because the shipping adds to the price. What about LG G5, would you recomend it if i put some stable and official rom on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Never used it so can't comment - have a read of reviews etc

EVR-L29 (Global) vs EVR-AL00 (Chinese) advice please

Just picked up a gorgeous like-new Phantom Silver 20x in the UK, my second Mate 20X. As I suspected it is the EVR-AL00 Chinese variant.
Any of you guys can advise me of the advantages / disadvantages of sticking with this over another EVR-L29? I have 14 days to decide.
I can see there are a bunch of Chinese apps on there - not much use to me, as I can't read Chinese. Immediately I see the phone upgrading to EMUI 11.
If it won't run Google services it's no use to me at all.
I see there are some companies online that will rebrand the Chinese hardware to the Global version. These seem to have decent reviews in the forums.
I would have to do this if I keep the phone. Typically I would avoid this to minimise the chance of security issues on the device.
I have 12 months warranty from the vendor even if Huawei UK won't support it. I plan to ask them in any case.
Any pros/cons I missed?

I used AL00 version for couple of months and I could not stand the amount of bloatware and random chinese popups. Two weeks ago I decided to convert it to L29. Now I have normal gapps without the hassle of installing them myself. Google assistant works flawlessly and the most important thing is that the bloatware is gone. I have no problems with banking apps after conversion. I am aware that chinese model gets updates earlier and more frequently but as for me its not worth it. After all support for this phone will be dropped in nearby future. EMUI11 will be the last major update for C432.

Thanks for your thoughts, appreciated.

I have EVR L29 but I even uninstalled all google apps or possible to uninstall

AL00 user here. i made the conscious choice to go the chinese model route, since its the only way to get 8/256GB RAM/Storage config. 5G model is not an option for me due to lack ot headphone jack and smaller battery capacity.
if you know how to do it / research it online, its not a biggie to remove/deactivate all chinese bloatware and install google services yourself, no total conversion needed to global model. this way i get all the pros (ram/storage, early updates), without any cons (smaller battery/no headphone jack in 5G model, no google services, chinese bloatware). happy customer right here

Nice! Glad it worked out for you.

jbmc83 said:
AL00 user here. i made the conscious choice to go the chinese model route, since its the only way to get 8/256GB RAM/Storage config. 5G model is not an option for me due to lack ot headphone jack and smaller battery capacity.
if you know how to do it / research it online, its not a biggie to remove/deactivate all chinese bloatware and install google services yourself, no total conversion needed to global model. this way i get all the pros (ram/storage, early updates), without any cons (smaller battery/no headphone jack in 5G model, no google services, chinese bloatware). happy customer right here
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Since AL00 is possible to convert it is better.. You can choose what apos u can install

PhoneTechShop said:
Since AL00 is possible to convert it is better.. You can choose what apos u can install
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yeah, depending on what u prefer either option could be better suited for you. the chinese software, aside from faster updates, also includes stuff like call recording or the huawei messaging app that some users might prefer to have.
in general, more choice is always more better

jbmc83 said:
AL00 user here. i made the conscious choice to go the chinese model route, since its the only way to get 8/256GB RAM/Storage config. 5G model is not an option for me due to lack ot headphone jack and smaller battery capacity.
if you know how to do it / research it online, its not a biggie to remove/deactivate all chinese bloatware and install google services yourself, no total conversion needed to global model. this way i get all the pros (ram/storage, early updates), without any cons (smaller battery/no headphone jack in 5G model, no google services, chinese bloatware). happy customer right here
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I saw 4g version on aliexpress 8/256. Does it mean that it is al00 with global firmware or real evr-L29 8/256. I asked cause you wrote that you had to choose chinesse version 8/256

sbkk said:
I saw 4g version on aliexpress 8/256. Does it mean that it is al00 with global firmware or real evr-L29 8/256. I asked cause you wrote that you had to choose chinesse version 8/256
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there is no EVR-L29 with 8/256 config, at least not for 4G. so its definitely an AL-00 chinese model that might have a global firmware installed on it.

jbmc83 said:
there is no EVR-L29 with 8/256 config, at least not for 4G. so its definitely an AL-00 chinese model that might have a global firmware installed on it.
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That'w what I wanted to know. Then, it looks like they add global rom to evr-al00. I had chinese version before and decided to sell it and now i don't know which one to buy.
BTW. Did you have 6/128 before? Is there any diffefence betwen 6/128 and 8/256 in speed?

The EVR-L29 with 6/128 was plenty fast for me, plays the FPS games I want and I never came close to filling up the storage. Even with Amazon, Netflix, Spotify, Audible downloads etc.

I loved the silver/purple colour of the EVR-AL00 and would have liked to keep it. The project to change the firmware could have been fun, but the uncertainty just put me off. Plus I found another mint EVR-L29 with two years warrantee and full accessories for the same price. So there was no justification to keep it.

nickb99NZ said:
The EVR-L29 with 6/128 was plenty fast for me, plays the FPS games I want and I never came close to filling up the storage. Even with Amazon, Netflix, Spotify, Audible downloads etc.
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Which one do you have now? Evr-al00 6/128 or 8/256?

I sent back the EVR-AL00 which was also 6/128 and traded it for the EVR-L29.

sbkk said:
That'w what I wanted to know. Then, it looks like they add global rom to evr-al00. I had chinese version before and decided to sell it and now i don't know which one to buy.
BTW. Did you have 6/128 before? Is there any diffefence betwen 6/128 and 8/256 in speed?
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nope, never had a 6/128 model, went straight for the 8/256 config. the only situation where u would notice any slowdowns would be if the ram was filled to the brink and the system would have to dump memory or switch to flash storage instead. both unlikely scenarios at this point in time. 6gb ram should be sufficient to handle anything right now.

nickb99NZ said:
I sent back the EVR-AL00 which was also 6/128 and traded it for the EVR-L29.
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Wise choice. I bet your happy with that decision.

bonczas said:
I used AL00 version for couple of months and I could not stand the amount of bloatware and random chinese popups. Two weeks ago I decided to convert it to L29. Now I have normal gapps without the hassle of installing them myself. Google assistant works flawlessly and the most important thing is that the bloatware is gone. I have no problems with banking apps after conversion. I am aware that chinese model gets updates earlier and more frequently but as for me its not worth it. After all support for this phone will be dropped in nearby future. EMUI11 will be the last major update for C432.
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Hi mate, do u have a link to convert AL00 to global. I have the chinese version 6/128.
Thanks.

Deanro said:
Wise choice. I bet your happy with that decision.
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Yeah, I never regretted it. Really liked the idea of a new colour 20x in my pocket but economically and time-cost-wise it made no sense. I just got a few dfferent colour cases from Aliexpress for my L29 and change them around with the wallpaper when I feel like something new.

jbmc83 said:
AL00 user here. i made the conscious choice to go the chinese model route, since its the only way to get 8/256GB RAM/Storage config. 5G model is not an option for me due to lack ot headphone jack and smaller battery capacity.
if you know how to do it / research it online, its not a biggie to remove/deactivate all chinese bloatware and install google services yourself, no total conversion needed to global model. this way i get all the pros (ram/storage, early updates), without any cons (smaller battery/no headphone jack in 5G model, no google services, chinese bloatware). happy customer right here
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Appreciate if you can share links. I've done mine and it still kinda fritzes in some Google Play related functions. Sync issues with certain apps and such. Like you I'm on the China ROM on ver 11 now.

Question OnePlus 11 vs Motorola x40

I've just received my global op11 a few days ago and I'd like to share my experience after also having a Motorola x40 CN version for a couple of weeks.
I paid 530£ for the Motorola but honestly it's so much better than OnePlus. Better software, more features, Wireless charging, ip68, better speakers(not louder but more bass) and telephoto camera seems better. Unfortunately because it was a Chinese variant, that means no possibility to lock BL on global Rom like OnePlus and no support, warranty etc. Limited Google services. It also seems to warm up a bit more than Motorola
Now for the OnePlus 11.
I pre-ordered and received a 100£ discount and a speaker which I'm planning to sell for 150£ și technically I'm only paying 550£ for the phone itself.
What's better about the OnePlus is the main camera and battery and also much better support because it's a more popular device and I get EU warranty and proper Google services.
Conclusion is:
If the Motorola launches x40 globally and it's in the same price range or has discounts or offers equivalent I would 10000% go for Motorola. It's a much much better phone

XDRdaniel said:
I've just received my global op11 a few days ago and I'd like to share my experience after also having a Motorola x40 CN version for a couple of weeks.
I paid 530£ for the Motorola but honestly it's so much better than OnePlus. Better software, more features, Wireless charging, ip68, better speakers(not louder but more bass) and telephoto camera seems better. Unfortunately because it was a Chinese variant, that means no possibility to lock BL on global Rom like OnePlus and no support, warranty etc. Limited Google services. It also seems to warm up a bit more than Motorola
Now for the OnePlus 11.
I pre-ordered and received a 100£ discount and a speaker which I'm planning to sell for 150£ și technically I'm only paying 550£ for the phone itself.
What's better about the OnePlus is the main camera and battery and also much better support because it's a more popular device and I get EU warranty and proper Google services.
Conclusion is:
If the Motorola launches x40 globally and it's in the same price range or has discounts or offers equivalent I would 10000% go for Motorola. It's a much much better phone
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Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?

jody2k said:
Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
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You can't relock bootloader on Global, it'll bricked like Xiaomi chinese phone.

I live in China and I also used moto x40 for a week (then returned it), and now I've used OnePlus 11 for over a month.
There are obviously some reasons that I can't accept with moto x40:
- The screen is easily getting touched by mistakes, especially on the edge of the screen. Sometimes even if I just hold the phone in my hand and do not move my fingers at all, the phone still thinks I'm touching the screen.
- Sometimes the system is stuck while scrolling in a list view, especially in the "global" apps (e.g. twitter, youtube).
Overall the hardware of x40 is good, but the software is less good than I expect.
OnePlus 11 has a higher price, (￥4000 for x40 and ￥4400 for OP 11, both are 256GB models), but it's reasonable because OP 11 has 16 GB RAM (x40 has 12GB).
OP 11 also has a better camera and a longer battery life.
The only downside for OP 11 is the type-c port is running at USB 2.0, which limits it to 480 Mbit/s. x40 has a full-featured USB 3.2 port, including video outputs.

L0nelyE4rth said:
You can't relock bootloader on Global, it'll bricked like Xiaomi chinese phone.
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Hmm okay so that means you cant get official updates anymore if you unlock BL? Need to flash them manually? That's a bit dissapounting indeed but not impossible to do .
Are we sure phone will get bricked on the x40 if we try relock BL? Is this a common issue?

hronro said:
I live in China and I also used moto x40 for a week (then returned it), and now I've used OnePlus 11 for over a month.
There are obviously some reasons that I can't accept with moto x40:
- The screen is easily getting touched by mistakes, especially on the edge of the screen. Sometimes even if I just hold the phone in my hand and do not move my fingers at all, the phone still thinks I'm touching the screen.
- Sometimes the system is stuck while scrolling in a list view, especially in the "global" apps (e.g. twitter, youtube).
Overall the hardware of x40 is good, but the software is less good than I expect.
OnePlus 11 has a higher price, (￥4000 for x40 and ￥4400 for OP 11, both are 256GB models), but it's reasonable because OP 11 has 16 GB RAM (x40 has 12GB).
OP 11 also has a better camera and a longer battery life.
The only downside for OP 11 is the type-c port is running at USB 2.0, which limits it to 480 Mbit/s. x40 has a full-featured USB 3.2 port, including video outputs.
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Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery

jody2k said:
Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
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I barely check the SOT...
Basically, I charge it every day and a half. The charging speed is amazing, it only took like 20 minutes for a full charge.

jody2k said:
Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
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Yea you can flash global Rom . There's already sellers on AliExpress shipping it with global Rom.
I mean that once you flash global Rom you can't lock the bootloader. You can only lock BL on official Rom.
You can easily unlock BL and flash ROMs but you can't lock back unless you're back on original Rom

jody2k said:
Hmm okay so that means you cant get official updates anymore if you unlock BL? Need to flash them manually? That's a bit dissapounting indeed but not impossible to do .
Are we sure phone will get bricked on the x40 if we try relock BL? Is this a common issue?
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100% sure you'll get bootloop if you relock on different Rom. And no, even if you buy from AliExpress a Chinese version with global Rom, you won't get OTA

jody2k said:
Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
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Not amazing but not bad either considering the capacity of the battery. I was happy with the sot

Alright perfect thanks for the info guys !
Let's hope we'll get a XDA forum section soon for the moto X40 / edge 40

jody2k said:
Alright perfect thanks for the info guys !
Let's hope we'll get a XDA forum section soon for the moto X40 / edge 40
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There's a section on 4pda

I got my eye on x40 long time, before comming out..
I hope they are not stupid and lounch Global version.
But, i read the Motorola is Bad (to be elegant.) to updates and fixing bugs.
I see many people selling they Edge 30 Ultra., which is a very well equipped (hardware) phone. I am 10.000 % that is the reason.

One thing you are missing is that OnePlus now offers good software updates, whereas with Motorola you will be lucky to get quarterly updates that are buggy. OnePlus 11 also has far superior battery life and better rear cameras, with a more active development community.