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Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
evronetwork said:
Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html
bondocel said:
I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html
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I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.
evronetwork said:
I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.
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For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs
evronetwork said:
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.
bondocel said:
For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs
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Oppo is a great phone but price is not better than any other brand phone. Oppo N1 has a snapdragon 600 at 1.7GHz and costs 449E from their Europe store, it's not exactly a bargain and although you can get it with either CM or colour-something(their os based on android), I hear that there are still lot of bugs
P.S. No 4.4 support ..yet
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.
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That's the only problem.. the support, the lack of CM roms and if for any reason you have a problem you can turn to no one as the people who have it probably don't don't more than you..
nice mobile
I've got a mediatek tablet and it's dual core @ 1.5ghz with 1gb ram and it lags worse than any device I've had... At the beginning there was no lag, over time (3 months) it started to happen. The build.prop was modified for any graphical usage to be low density which is how it had no lag...
Before buying anything Chinese make sure the specs are correct (as in do a test) many cheapos are clones of the Chinese device :0
Also before you buy ask the seller for firmware as they are well hidden...
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Shipment and Availability:
Ordered the device via amazon yesterday and it seems that they have a sufficiently well stocked fulfillment center- after ordering the device at 12AM, it shipped by 6:30AM of 16th September. The delivery estimate shows up as Friday, 19th by 8PM (Free shipping) for me.
Official website to buy the device from:
http://www.amazon.in/Micromax-Canvas-Android-Magnetic-Black/dp/B00NEFFWF6
The offers that Amazon is bundling with the device for the initial (limited?) period are:
1) Coupons worth Rs.2000 (they send these by the 20th of October to the email you register at amazon. Correspond to Watches, Handbags, Backpacks, Shoes, Sunglasses, Fashion Jewelry and Clothing)
2) Strontium 8GB MicroSDHC Memory Card (Does have a 4.5 rating on Amazon page, so hopefully it is reliable. Also, the phone accepts microSD cards upto 32GB in size- the total onboard space is only 2.5GB after all the OS and Google apps installations. Given that apps cannot be moved to SD card right now, additional apps take up this pool of space).
3) 10% Cash Back on State Bank Debit & Credit cards. (Also takes time to process, expect the cash back to come in by the 30th of November- I used SBI CC to buy the device; will keep a lookout on when this goes through).
4) For Airtel users, free software upgrades and app downloads for 6 months. (200MB of data per month for 6 months, Android updates do not count towards this data limit so hopefully the Android L update will download on the Airtel network without messing with this upper limit.
Airtel's website says:
"Prepaid offer:100 MB free data per month for software update & 200 MB free data per month for App download or update, for 6 months."
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Source
Evidently, there are a lot of conditions here and I am a little wary of the wording- it seems pretty certain that the data is useful only for App and OS updates and wouldn't be useful for any other purpose (browsing etc.). Also, seems to be valid only with prepaid phones.
Will have to check this and get back. More details on Airtel's website. Quoted below:
Process:
• Visit http://www.airtellive.com/offers from your mobile
• Check out the offer available for your smartphone
• Click on the ‘Activate now’ button to activate the offer
• ‘Successful’ message indicates that your offer has been activated
T&C apply:
• Offer valid for Micromax Canvas A1, Karbonn Sparkle V & Spice Dream Uno only.
• Offer applicable on the first prepaid active airtel SIM inserted in the handset.
• Post usage of free data or offer period, charges at 4p/10kb (10p/10kb for 2G) will apply.
• Offer can be availed from September 15, 2014 till March 14, 2015
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5) Up to Rs. 10,000 in Amazon.in Gift Cards for lucky customers, ends September 21st. Winners to be announced on October 1st.
Note:
Google also offers 35GB of cloud storage on drive in addition to the 15GB space you get with the google account. Make sure to register your device with the google account you want this to be credited to.
Reviews, Unboxings etc.
In an effort to get reviews from across the internet and from users on XDA, here are a few to start with:
Times of India (First impressions):
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...droid-One-smartphone/articleshow/42559430.cms
Indian Express:
http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/micromax-canvas-a1-review-for-the-price-android-one-is-a-good-experience/
Unboxing and Overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4FID2teHeo
* The device does have a notification LED and also comes with a microfiber cloth and a screen protector that can be applied by the user.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7La-DJAzA0
Brief review of the Spice variant of Android One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ7Uy81tEWw
Comparison of the three Android One devices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmyFCh4MK0
Comparison of the Redmi 1s and Micromax Canvas A1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNoL1-f_NXE
An overview of the Android One devices (Since all the three release day devices sport the same set of hardware specifications):
http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/first-impressions-android-one-23914.html
Benchmarks:
From Digit:
http://www.digit.in/slideshows/android-one-benchamarks-micromax-a1-performace-camera-quality-1.html
The overall responsiveness as well as multitasking CPU score is higher on the Micromax in comparison to the Moto E as well as the Xiomi Redmi 1S. The GPU however is a different story. In spite of the lower pixel count, the Mali 400 GPU has a lower score in comparison to the other two phones. Xiomi beats the device by a good 40% higher score on the synthetic test.
Issues:
1) The device does not support USB OTG out of the box. (Source)
2) The camera app and any other application that requires handling of picture or video files fails to save them without the presence of a microsd card in the card slot (Source via BGR)
3) Obviously, the entire GPL headache with Mediatek- Let us hope the partnership with Google compels them to release the CPU kernel sources so that we may have some android development on the forum. This would help so many devices that have been released in India over the past year.
Edit: Good news is that Google is making some inroads here. They released the 4.4.4 kernel sources on 17th September 2014.
Other Information:
1) An interesting interview that NDTV had with Sundar Pichai on the future and goals of Android One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOsXUq49hFY
2) The android one website:
http://www.android.com/one/
3) The original I/O reveal of Android One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wnljlMvXIc
Kernel Source from Mediatek: https://github.com/eagleeyetom/android_kernel_mediatek
Android One Branch Source from Google: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/mediatek/+/android-4.4.4_r3
Root/Bootloader Unlocking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/android-one-general
So are the kernel source released by google??????
Android One devices specifications
Hello,
This is an interesting link that presents Android One first devices specifications :
Sylvain
How many Indian languages it can display out of the box?
siffar said:
How many Indian languages it can display out of the box?
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Seven from the looks of it. Hindi, English and six others that Google has yet to make public.
thejoker said:
So are the kernel source released by google??????
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It seems like Google has heard you
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-releases-kitkat-kernel-source-android-one-devices
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avinash60 said:
Seven from the looks of it. Hindi, English and six others that Google has yet to make public.
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Its going to be a deal breaker (till L releases) for the group, Google has targetted with this phone.
avinash60 said:
3) Obviously, the entire GPL headache with Mediatek- Let us hope the partnership with Google compels them to release the CPU kernel sources so that we may have some android development on the forum. This would help so many devices that have been released in India over the past year.
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Looks like Mediatek heard you, OP :good:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mediatek-android-one-source/
Oomahey said:
Looks like Mediatek heard you, OP :good:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mediatek-android-one-source/
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That was a happy surprise- things are looking good for the long term viability of the devices if google commits to it this way in the future as well.
I bought this phone but facing lagging issue in games like subway surfers,temple run 2,youtube video playback.
it lags for just a fraction of a second sometimes,otherwise its fine.
do you all who bought this phone face the same issue?
shall i go for refund?
On the contrary, its smoothest phone I've seen in a real long time. I have not done much gaming except SkyForce, which had frames dropped once in a while.
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On the contrary, its smoothest phone I've seen in a real long time. I have not done gaming except SkyForce, which had frames dropped once in a while.
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Yes exactly the frames drop but this is happening even in normal games like subway surfer ,so kindly check it and let me know, I think to go for replacement.
teja989 said:
Yes exactly the frames drop but this is happening even in normal games like subway surfer ,so kindly check it and let me know, I think to go for replacement.
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You can compare your experience to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRR0H3JXdZ0
avinash60 said:
You can compare your experience to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRR0H3JXdZ0
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Got this video whose subway surfer is also lagging like mine.
So it may be a software glitch which google should soon fix it.
http://youtu.be/_zIIymGfbP0
hi how is battery backup guys post with battery graph ...
Sk.vignesh said:
hi how is battery backup guys post with battery graph ...
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http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/android-one-vs-android-competitors-battery-test-23951.html
In my experience, battery life is decent. You can expect 18 hours of runtime with moderate use, including 2 hours of screen time. I wouldn't put too much weight on the overall numbers though, Android L is expected to have a good 30 to 50% increment in battery life compared to kitkat because of the move to ART runtime and project Volta.
avinash60 said:
http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/android-one-vs-android-competitors-battery-test-23951.html
In my experience, battery life is decent. You can expect 18 hours of runtime with moderate use, including 2 hours of screen time. I wouldn't put too much weight on the overall numbers though, Android L is expected to have a good 30 to 50% increment in battery life compared to kitkat because of the move to ART runtime and project Volta.
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thanks fr ur reply..i also had one doubt.
After reading many reviews i heard that micromax has some issues in some.a1 handsets like connetivity,speaker problms ,and spice is good in a1 mobiles..
which one u suggest guys??
spice or mmx?
Sk.vignesh said:
thanks fr ur reply..i also had one doubt.
After reading many reviews i heard that micromax has some issues in some.a1 handsets like connetivity,speaker problms ,and spice is good in a1 mobiles..
which one u suggest guys??
spice or mmx?
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I have personally not experienced any problems- could be some people may be having issues though I don't know if the Spice variant is better than the MMX or if it is just a matter of MMX getting more customers causing the issue to be more apparent.
I would just go with any one of the three variants- I don't think any one is better than the others since the hardware is inherently the same.
Sk.vignesh said:
thanks fr ur reply..i also had one doubt.
After reading many reviews i heard that micromax has some issues in some.a1 handsets like connetivity,speaker problms ,and spice is good in a1 mobiles..
which one u suggest guys??
spice or mmx?
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i suggest mmx or karbonn. since eveything except the look is same, u want to get a phone which has good customer service. i bought karbonn. but there is some problem rooting as of now. I would recommend redmi if u want good hardware. that was my top choice. but i needed good updates. btw the battery sucks on this phone.
Google seems to have changed the way the bootloader and system partitions in this device work substantially enough that we now need a completely rehauled way of rooting, installing custom bootloader on the thing. Might take a few days for the developers to do that before we see new ROMs.
Edit: Varun over at Android one cross-development subforum has been successful at rooting the device as well as getting CWM recovery on the device.
Hi !, i´ve been without a smartphone for about 10 months and im currently contemplating getting a zenfone 2, the 4gb of ram version obviously, and i´ve been thinking how does the future looks for the zenfone 2? i mean sure, asus has already released the kernel source and most would think "OMG great! ROMs galore incoming!!" but that doesn´t seem to be the case. also, as far as updates go, for some reason i don´t see the zenfone 2 getting past an android 5.1 update.
maybe it is very hard (or just a pain in the ass) to develop for the intel cpu ?
im also considering the alcatel onetouch idol 3 wich everyone seems to love specially because of the price (and those JBL speakers), but im also considering getting a samsung galaxy alpha because the snapdragon 801 version sits right in the middle of the two price wise (check amazon US) , and the alpha camera records 60fps video wich i love, i know the LG G3 originally didn´t have 60fps video but got it later from right here on XDA,
so do you think the comunity will warm up to the ZF2 and start getting content out? (like a mod to capture 60 fps video on the zenfone 2 later down the road)
i don´t usually start threads but i just want to know what people think!.
Asus hasn't unlocked the boot loader yet, which will interfere with development...There's root so users can enjoy that at least. Unfortunately it'll be awhile until Asus releases an easy method to solve this obstacle.
Other devices have methods to bypass locked bootloaders, but nothing like that exists for the Zen.
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There's a few threads similar to this one already. Perhaps join in the discussion on one of those threads. Or you could ask specific questions here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/help/help-post-questions-instead-making-t2997779
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So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
I've been looking in to this too. It seems you can unlock the bootloader on EMUI devices in an official way so that's a good start.
Have you had a look around the other Huawei and Honor forums? There do seem to be ROMs and unofficial Lineage OS builds, but I haven't found much info on sources, etc.
I have actually pre-ordered an Honor 8 Pro, it looks awesome and at £474 I couldn't resist. I think the major manufacturers have lost the plot in terms of flagship pricing.
alsheron said:
So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
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I'm in the same boat. I love the H8Pro but all I see outside of stock based roms, is one unofficial Lineage build for the Honor 8. The camera is currently listed as not working still. It's like that on a lot of phones that aren't too well known. My Le Pro 3 for example didn't have working camera on the marshmallow roms for a while and then when they got it working the 7 roms didn't have it until very recently. So it's a maybe it will at all. The problem is that while a lot of these companies allow bootloader unlocking, no they don't release sources. That's a big problem. That means devs have to build things like camera drivers from scratch, and without them being that popular devs working on it aren't usually too plentiful. Also not too much kernel support for that Kirin chipset either.
Well let me ask you guys. How much custom ROMs do you use these days ? I myself found that after changing to custom ROM I found back to stock ROM. These days stock roms has become so good that they actually brings the true character of a phone
Apparently I'm not the only one facing this decision. I've owned the Moto 2nd gen, G3, and G4 and frankly every time I've moved up a model, I like them a little less. For that reason alone, I'm trying to look past the Moto G5. Now that the Honor 9 is coming out, I'm taking a look at the Honor 8, hoping the cost will come down. I've always carried my phone in my front pocket so the size difference over the G4 I have now has me a little worried, but the weight really doesn't matter. I'm really looking very hard at the Honor 8 Pro though since price wise, it looks pretty close to the best bang for the buck.
ehh ..
alsheron said:
So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
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personally, i am a fan of their emui5, amazing ui tho,
and their harware is solid,
camera is good too,
battery lives are excellent (thanks to emui optimisations)
but my only regret is that i dont have much of a custom roms to play with, given that their kirin chip is not open sourced
offcourse, their is open kirin team unofficially, but they are not working on every device, so only complaint will be kernel sources,
many honor devices has no development at all,
thilak devraj said:
personally, i am a fan of their emui5, amazing ui tho,
and their harware is solid,
camera is good too,
battery lives are excellent (thanks to emui optimisations)
but my only regret is that i dont have much of a custom roms to play with, given that their kirin chip is not open sourced
offcourse, their is open kirin team unofficially, but they are not working on every device, so only complaint will be kernel sources,
many honor devices has no development at all,
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1. kernel source from p10 plus works on duk
2. resurrection remix will follow soon .. it is booting already, but still has some major bugs we have to fix first
EDIT: I just saw you are talking about kirin devices in general, sorry
OldDroid said:
1. kernel source from p10 plus works on duk
2. resurrection remix will follow soon .. it is booting already, but still has some major bugs we have to fix first
EDIT: I just saw you are talking about kirin devices in general, sorry
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don't worry, we are always greatfull for open Kirin and the hard work of devs like you
Source code is just released! Check HERE. Since the phone is new, source is released early. OpenKirin Team can now develop for this device.
adriansticoid said:
Source code is just released! Check HERE. Since the phone is new, source is released early. OpenKirin Team can now develop for this device.
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wooow... source released ?? :cyclops:
thilak devraj said:
wooow... source released ?? :cyclops:
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Yeah. That's what I just said.
adriansticoid said:
Yeah. That's what I just said.
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wasnt expecting huawei to do this
thilak devraj said:
wasnt expecting huawei to do this
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Rox_Honor said it will be released mid-June. A bit delayed but it's good.
adriansticoid said:
Rox_Honor said it will be released mid-June. A bit delayed but it's good.
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finally, i could play with custom roms , hope it woud happen for the 6x too
thilak devraj said:
finally, i could play with custom roms , hope it woud happen for the 6x too
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Yeah. Everybody's hoping for that.
adriansticoid said:
Yeah. Everybody's hoping for that.
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imagin , if huawei bedev friendly, and their phones will be like snapdragons, no one would stop em
thilak devraj said:
imagin , if huawei bedev friendly, and their phones will be like snapdragons, no one would stop em
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They'll see this in the future. Yeah that future again.
adriansticoid said:
They'll see this in the future. Yeah that future again.
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if that happens, huawei's gonna beat sam
thilak devraj said:
if that happens, huawei's gonna beat sam
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Of course. So it's important that they decide for this.
Where is AOSP Extended? RR? Viper OS?
Bunch of reasons, though the primary one that I would guess is the phone is bootloader locked for Verizon. I'm not sure how wide spread this phone is on other networks at this point that are unlockable, but the most are probably
on verizon. I stopped using the nexus line when it stopped. Moto phones are close to stock and with the projector mod, a cheap entry price deal from verizon, I took a risk and went with this phone. My most durable nexus phone was the 6, which was made by motorola. I'm loving the quality of the phone and the battery life. I even picked up a dirt cheap moto z play on craigslist and love it just as much and its even better battery.
If you really care about custom roms, you gotta do some research and follow the developers, not necessarily the other way around. I'm not sure what I am going to do in a year for my next phone, but I do liked trying out the other vendors.
I feel, there have not been many buyers of the Z2 Play, hence the community support for this smartphone is quite low.
Before the Z2 play i used to own a Galaxy S4 mini, which has great support till date, and threads for different Custom Android versions of Viper, XenonHD, RR,AOKP, AICP, are still active.
There are a lot more Custom Android versions for the s4 mini but they have got inactive only some months ago.
Even now development for Android O version for the S4 mini is going on.
The main reason according to me is, s4 mini got a lot of buyers, and the small form factor plus the removable battery made a lot of its users stick to it , and luckily a lot of them seem to have been Android developers .
Is that because phone is relative new?
I hope soon this changes!
So I guess I will keep using my rooted Droid Turbo.
I guess I wrongly assumed that since the bootloader could be unlocked, there would be developement.
Don't get me wrond. I totally appreciate what has been accomplished!
I am grateful for root and TWRP!
I find it hard to believe that Motorola/Lenovo has not posted the stock firmware for this device.
I really like having a rooted phone, mostly for the ability ot install dark themes. I really hate white backgrounds and status bar icons.
I prefer Motorola phones. I wonder what my next phone will be...
I will surely wait until stock firmware is actually available, prior to purchase.
A few days ago they (Lenovo) released the kernel source code for Oreo so that might help some devs to start developing for our device if they want.
We're not gonna see a lot of developer support for the device for one reason: not a lot of people have a z2 Play. At least, not enough for devs to actually care about supporting our device which not enough people are using it to garner enough interest.
It also helps that the z2 Play was a push in the wrong direction towards battery life and thus, most potential buyers, most of which are going to be Moto Z Play owners, are gonna stick with their current phones.