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Is it worth to upgrade from Huawei Mate 9 to OnePlus 5T?

Hello,
I currently have a Huawei Mate 9 and I'm thinking take the Snapdragon 835 bandwagon.
Three devices were on my list, but 2 are almost discarded.
- Mi Mix 2. Design is great, but average camera and too dim screen are a no go.
- Razer Phone. I would love that 120Hz screen (I own a high refresh rate monitor and love it), but the screen is just 5.7", I like M9's 5.9", but I think the ideal for me is around 6.0"- 6.5".
So, I'm left with 5T, which I think is a overall great phone, but for those who came from Huawei Mate 9, is it really an upgrade? Does it really fully replaces a Mate 9?
I like M9's size and form factor, camera is very good, and I think that its bright and colorfull IPS LCD display to be very good.
But I do miss having a SD 835 powered Smartphone.

I really like my Mate 9 when I had it, good battery life, no lag... Only reason for my switch was EMUI updates and no persistent notifications on lockscreen.

lexi250 said:
I really like my Mate 9 when I had it, good battery life, no lag... Only reason for my switch was EMUI updates and no persistent notifications on lockscreen.
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Now that you moved to 5T, do you miss anything from Mate 9?

Take note that the mate 9 does get treble support while the OP5T won't. Also remember that aspect ratios are important when talking about screen area, where the mate 9 has a much bigger surface than the 5T due to its aspect ratio even if they have the same diagonal length.
The 5T is a really good phone nevertheless, but I am not sure how much of an upgrade it is in other quality of life departments it could be.

superandroid2011 said:
Now that you moved to 5T, do you miss anything from Mate 9?
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IR blaster, and 16:9.
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cam over from a mate 9 and mate 10
only reason for the change was development support.
5T seems to have a strong dev team going, the mate 9 and 10 dont have any real development going on

lexi250 said:
IR blaster, and 16:9.
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What is wrong with 18:9? Is the phone physically too narrow/tall or are the black bars that bothers you?

superandroid2011 said:
Hello,
I currently have a Huawei Mate 9 and I'm thinking take the Snapdragon 835 bandwagon.
Three devices were on my list, but 2 are almost discarded.
- Mi Mix 2. Design is great, but average camera and too dim screen are a no go.
- Razer Phone. I would love that 120Hz screen (I own a high refresh rate monitor and love it), but the screen is just 5.7", I like M9's 5.9", but I think the ideal for me is around 6.0"- 6.5".
So, I'm left with 5T, which I think is a overall great phone, but for those who came from Huawei Mate 9, is it really an upgrade? Does it really fully replaces a Mate 9?
I like M9's size and form factor, camera is very good, and I think that its bright and colorfull IPS LCD display to be very good.
But I do miss having a SD 835 powered Smartphone.
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I have both Mate 9 and oneplus 5t now. I like mate 9 for the aspect ratio 16:9 and the SD card. I like the development of the oneplus 5t. If I have to keep one I will choose mate 9.

superandroid2011 said:
What is wrong with 18:9? Is the phone physically too narrow/tall or are the black bars that bothers you?
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Nothing is wrong with 18:9, just preferred 16:9 for gaming and web browsing. The frequent software update and near pure Android experiences makes up for the IR blaster for TV and screen aspect ratio. The SD835 is enough to convince you to change phones.

Snapdragon 845 is around the corner.

I just came from having a Huawei Mate 8 and had it for two years works perfectly and was a great phone. I loved the size and form factor and had the same problem I couldn't find anything to upgrade to. I think there's too little development for Huawei. My Mate 8 was still running Android 6. I did find the battery and screen on time better on the Huawei. Thought the screen size on the 5t is smaller and more narrow I actually much rather the feel in the hand and how compact it is in the pocket etc. I was in the same situation I wanted something with a headphone jack, decent screen size and battery that could put custom roms on, so went for the OnePlus 5t in the end.
Just think the power settings on Huawei are better being able to prevent apps from running at all while not in use is good as the battery life I'm getting is pretty poor. I could get two days out of the Mate 8 and would only just get one day from the 5t. Without being able to stop apps properly the battery just drains with hardly any use.

gotshoaib said:
Snapdragon 845 is around the corner.
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And NOBODY will notice any advantages over the SD835...

[email protected] said:
I have both Mate 9 and oneplus 5t now. I like mate 9 for the aspect ratio 16:9 and the SD card. I like the development of the oneplus 5t. If I have to keep one I will choose mate 9.
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Thanks for the replies so far.
Reading all the posts, looks like 5T is a small step up from Mate 9 generally speaking. There are goodies (eg. development) and compromises (eg. 18:9).
I'll try a 5T if I find a used one for a good price.

superandroid2011 said:
Thanks for the replies so far.
Reading all the posts, looks like 5T is a small step up from Mate 9 generally speaking. There are goodies (eg. development) and compromises (eg. 18:9).
I'll try a 5T if I find a used one for a good price.
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Most flagships from 2016 will not be a big leap to the 5T. I think you have to look at all the unique offerings of the 5T to see if you think it would be a good fit for you.
Some people cannot live without beautiful AMOLED screens. And the dev support on the OnePlus phones is top notch.
Some people hate 18:9 aspect ratios. And can't stand proprietary charging methods (even if they are faster than any other phone).

xocomaox said:
Most flagships from 2016 will not be a big leap to the 5T. I think you have to look at all the unique offerings of the 5T to see if you think it would be a good fit for you.
Some people cannot live without beautiful AMOLED screens. And the dev support on the OnePlus phones is top notch.
Some people hate 18:9 aspect ratios. And can't stand proprietary charging methods (even if they are faster than any other phone).
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Makes sense.
AMOLED screens:
Personally, by a small margin, I preffer good IPS LCD over Amoled as I'm more sensitive to poor whites on Amoled (where they are actually a gray shade on Amoled) than its deep Blacks (where they are a gray shade on IPS LCD). In both cases you get used to the display weakness and will just really see that difference when comparing side by side.
Dev Support:
Its nice to have a active community, but I'm not too much anymore on ROMs and etc, EMUI is good for me. But for the 5T, ROMs are really good because I think Pure Android is fast, really fast, but lacks a few things, so good ROMs fill in the gap.
18:9 aspect ratio:
I'm really used to 16:9 and I think they should not have changed it for a while, but I'm willing to try it these new options.
Proprietary charging methods:
Not a con for me, as I normally only charge my phones once a day, and never a original charger has failed or broke in my hands.

superandroid2011 said:
AMOLED screens:
Personally, by a small margin, I preffer good IPS LCD over Amoled as I'm more sensitive to poor whites on Amoled (where they are actually a gray shade on Amoled) than its deep Blacks (where they are a gray shade on IPS LCD). In both cases you get used to the display weakness and will just really see that difference when comparing side by side.
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I know what you mean. But the color reproduction on Samsung's screens are fantastic, and the brightness is far better on AMOLED screens than on LCD, simply because of how the technology is used in real-world situations.

davoidd said:
I just came from having a Huawei Mate 8 and had it for two years works perfectly and was a great phone. I loved the size and form factor and had the same problem I couldn't find anything to upgrade to. I think there's too little development for Huawei. My Mate 8 was still running Android 6. I did find the battery and screen on time better on the Huawei. Thought the screen size on the 5t is smaller and more narrow I actually much rather the feel in the hand and how compact it is in the pocket etc. I was in the same situation I wanted something with a headphone jack, decent screen size and battery that could put custom roms on, so went for the OnePlus 5t in the end.
Just think the power settings on Huawei are better being able to prevent apps from running at all while not in use is good as the battery life I'm getting is pretty poor. I could get two days out of the Mate 8 and would only just get one day from the 5t. Without being able to stop apps properly the battery just drains with hardly any use.
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I still have my Mate 8 in addition to my 5T. A year ago, I was desperate for a new toy so I was looking at the Mate 8 and 9, and decided to get the 8. The 5T and Mate 8 are very different devices that they complement each other and I love both. But development was limited for the Mate 8 but I was able to get KangVIP ROM & black pyramid theme running on it which is cool. Mate 8 by far the hardest phone I've had for rooting/flashing. Soft bricked that thing more times than all my other devices alone.
I prefer the aspect ratio of the Mate 8, but the 5T is compact and sleek. Oneplus is just so much more robust development wise, which is why I went with the 5T. :good:

xocomaox said:
I know what you mean. But the color reproduction on Samsung's screens are fantastic, and the brightness is far better on AMOLED screens than on LCD, simply because of how the technology is used in real-world situations.
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I like Amoled (had samsung galaxies from 1 to 4) then I switched to LG where displays on G2 and G3 were just OK, but I fell in love with those great whites compared to Amoled.
Moving forward, G4 had one of the best screens ever for me, but was plagued by severe burn-in, G5 display was dimmer and burn-in still an issue.
When I got it, Mate 9 set a new standard of display quality for me. Great colors, very good blacks, high contrast ratio and the brightest display I ever had.
So I think, whichever phone will be my next one, I'll be losing on display.

superandroid2011 said:
I like Amoled (had samsung galaxies from 1 to 4) then I switched to LG where displays on G2 and G3 were just OK, but I fell in love with those great whites compared to Amoled.
Moving forward, G4 had one of the best screens ever for me, but was plagued by severe burn-in, G5 display was dimmer and burn-in still an issue.
When I got it, Mate 9 set a new standard of display quality for me. Great colors, very good blacks, high contrast ratio and the brightest display I ever had.
So I think, whichever phone will be my next one, I'll be losing on display.
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That may be true. Display does come down to personal preference a lot of the time. I did play with a Mate 9 at Best Buy once when I had my Pixel XL but it didn't look as good. Probably because I am used to AMOLED, lol.

Oneplus 5T has the adaptive screen mode that replicates true colours, pretty much identical as real life, or an IPS. I still have my Nexus 5, which by the time was praised by it's outstanding screen quality and colour accuracy, well, with that adaptive mode on the OP5T the whites are actually whiter, no bluish or orange tint to it, simply a perfect white. The colours seem dull but that's how real colours are.
AMOLED were praised at first for punchy vivid colours, I never liked it. Went to the OnePlus 5t and when I came upon that adaptive mode, I knew this was the best device ever released, a true worthy upgrade from my lovely and awesome Nexus 5.
A friend of mine has the mate 9, I have to say the screen is nice but nowhere close the OnePlus 5t has to offer.
I just wished OnePlus incorporated OIS on their sensors.. that's my only con

Screen Width and some more questions

Hi.
I have a Ulefone Be Touch 2 and I want to buy a new phone.
I don't know if I should buy a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite or a Redmi Note 7.
The Android One of the Mi A2 Lite is more appealing, but the RN7 has a bigger screen.
My eyes are not perfect, but if the Mi A2 Lite has at least the same screen width as the UBT2, then I'll probably buy the Mi A2 Lite instead of the RN7. The UBT2 has a screen width of about 68.5mm (2.7 inches) and a total width of 77.4mm (3.05 inches).
Can someone please measure the screen width of the Mi A2 Lite? I know that the total width of the Mi A2 Lite is 71.68mm (2.82 inches), but I don't know it's screen width.
Thank you.
About bugs, anyone experience anything bad? GPS and bluetooth work fine?
Should we expect updates until Android 10 or until Android 11?
Concerning privacy, do you recommend me to install a CFW to prevent any kind of spying by Xiaomi?

Why do you wanna know about screen width though?
Mi A2 Lite display have 5.84 inches, 85.1 cm2 (~79.5% screen-to-body ratio), and Ulefone Be Touch have 5.5″ screen.
I recommend buying Redmi Note 7. It has way more peformance, the design is beautiful and has a 48mp camera, has a headphone jack, etc. I don't think Android One is appealing. Android One is stock android and has almost no features. It's just boring. If you don't like miui, you can install custom rom in the device later.

VerumDeveloper said:
Why do you wanna know about screen width though?
Mi A2 Lite display have 5.84 inches, 85.1 cm2 (~79.5% screen-to-body ratio), and Ulefone Be Touch have 5.5″ screen.
I recommend buying Redmi Note 7. It has way more peformance, the design is beautiful and has a 48mp camera, has a headphone jack, etc. I don't think Android One is appealing. Android One is stock android and has almost no features. It's just boring. If you don't like miui, you can install custom rom in the device later.
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Thank you very much for your help.
I want to know the screen width because I can't see very well (my eyes suck), and I need a phone with a big screen width. I understand that the diagonal of the Mi A2 Lite is 5.84 inches and that the diagonal of the UBT2 is 5.5 inches, but what about the width?
Regarding the RN7, I don't really like the miui. I've asked about the RN7 in another thread and they told me that custom roms for the RN7 still have a few bugs... maybe the bugs will be solved in future updates, maybe not.
EDIT: asked an eBay seller, he told me the screen width is 64mm (don't know if he measured it correctly or not).

OnePlus 7T vs OnePlus 7Pro

Hello... I don't know much about phones but if you guys could pick a phone which would you rather have OnePlus 7T vs OnePlus 7Pro or something else altogether? I don't play games, thanks

Dude905 said:
Hello... I don't know much about phones but if you guys could pick a phone which would you rather have OnePlus 7T vs OnePlus 7Pro or something else altogether? I don't play games, thanks
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YouTube will be your friend but I'd say this. Is QHD important to you vs the full HD screen that is on the 7T? If you ask me you will not tell the difference. Will a tear drop notch bother you vs no notch like what is found on the 7 Pro?
Curved display vs flat display. Curved display looks good (to me) but it shows glare when you're using it in sunlight. The 7t charges faster than the 7 Pro due to the new 30T charging technology vs the older 30 charger found in the 7 Pro. To me the most important factor is do you prefer 128gb vs 256gb storage?
For my personal use I think the 7T is the all around better phone. I don't care for a curved display, I actually like having a dedicated front facing camera vs the pop-up cam, I prefer the faster charging but envy the larger 256gb found on the 7 Pro. If you're anything like me then save the money and get the 7T.
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@ OuncE718 Thank you for your input. And, answer your questions, really I don't know what you're asking. I like watching movies on my phone but that pretty much it. As for the storage size, it doesn't matter much for me, though I do like a good battery life. I want a new phone because the phone I have now is a little slow, LG-G6, it's okay but I want something new and unlocked. Also, it doesn't have to be the ones I listed if there something better than them, thanks

Take a look at this comparison on gsmarena. What I would say is, if money is not a problem then get the 7T Pro, and if it's the opposite 7T will be sufficient.

Dude905 said:
@ OuncE718 Thank you for your input. And, answer your questions, really I don't know what you're asking. I like watching movies on my phone but that pretty much it. As for the storage size, it doesn't matter much for me, though I do like a good battery life. I want a new phone because the phone I have now is a little slow, LG-G6, it's okay but I want something new and unlocked. Also, it doesn't have to be the ones I listed if there something better than them, thanks
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What question did I ask that confuses you? If you don't care about storage then the 7t is your best friend. You'll be blown away, especially coming from the G6.
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OuncE718 said:
Is QHD important to you vs the full HD screen that is on the 7T?
Curved display vs flat display.
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This above and I'm not sure about the display which I would like, thanks

Diatomix98 said:
Take a look at this comparison on gsmarena. What I would say is, if money is not a problem then get the 7T Pro, and if it's the opposite 7T will be sufficient.
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Do they sell the 7T pro in Canada?

Curved screens look silly. 7T.

Dude905 said:
This above and I'm not sure about the display which I would like, thanks
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He means screen resolution. QHD is 2k, 1440p. FHD is 1080p
I also can't tell any difference myself . I think you'd be happy with the 7t

OnePlus 7T is best if you don't want to spend much or under budget constraints as well as if you want latest specs(SD 855+) and warp charge 30T.
Go for OnePlus 7 pro if you want a phone with premium appearance like infinity display (similar to latest Samsung Galaxy devices) as well as if you want pop-up camera and horizon light(since there is no notification light in 7T) and also if you want qHD display as well as 4000 mAh battery. But 7 Pro costs a little more and there is no difference in camera department.

I must warn you. I've just returned my oneplus 7T due to green tint on the upper part of the screen. Many devices are affected of this flaw. Please google about it and potential hw/software issues before you make your decision. (i recomend revuew on androidpolice) It looks like oneplus 7t pro has higher quality panel than regular 7t(i am not talking about screen resolution).

I keep hearing about this issue and I wonder if it does not affect the tmobile 7t cause I don't have that issue

I see the green tint "issue" but it only appears under real low light. I don't see it under normal lighting conditions. It doesn't bother me at all.
To be honest I never noticed it until I saw this post.
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Question Over sharpened Mi 11x Amoled display

Hi, I recently bought mi 11x and have been using it for past couple of days. What I have noticed is that the shaprness of my phone's display is very high and because of that everything looks really bad on the screen... Like artifacts around black text on white background or anything running in low resolution... Is this normal or there's any problem with my display? Should I get my device replaced? Is anyone else is facing similar issue with mi 11x/poco f3/redmi k40 ? Is this MIUI issue and will it be solved if I install custom rom?

what phone did you use prior to mi 11x ?
PS: there is no such thing as sharpened display

suaveUt said:
Hi, I recently bought mi 11x and have been using it for past couple of days. What I have noticed is that the shaprness of my phone's display is very high and because of that everything looks really bad on the screen... Like artifacts around black text on white background or anything running in low resolution... Is this normal or there's any problem with my display? Should I get my device replaced? Is anyone else is facing similar issue with mi 11x/poco f3/redmi k40 ? Is this MIUI issue and will it be solved if I install custom rom?
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turn of ai hdr enhancement in settings, it'll be around in display

K-scorpion said:
turn of ai hdr enhancement in settings, it'll be around in display
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I had turned it off immediately after using the phone for the first time ... but Still text is a lot more sharper than normal .. and there are artifacts around text (although minute but still there).

venomus001 said:
what phone did you use prior to mi 11x ?
PS: there is no such thing as sharpened display
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Lmao get out of here, never owned a TV or monitor in your life???
Sharpness doesn't exist because I never heard about it

Rstment ^m^ said:
Lmao get out of here, never owned a TV or monitor in your life???
Sharpness doesn't exist because I never heard about it
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this is not tv or monitor, phones generally don't have any Sharpness settings, pixels can be turned off or combined to the lower resolution, i simply wonder if op was using LCD or different ppi density prior to buying this phone

venomus001 said:
this is not tv or monitor, phones generally don't have any Sharpness settings, pixels can be turned off or combined to the lower resolution, i simply wonder if op was using LCD or different ppi density prior to buying this phone
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We don't have settings for sharpness indeed but manufacturer does . They can fine tune the display as they like...
Different phones can have different feels to them regardless of pixel density or panel type

Rstment ^m^ said:
We don't have settings for sharpness indeed but manufacturer does . They can fine tune the display as they like...
Different phones can have different feels to them regardless of pixel density or panel type
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Please refer below images. I have tried to capture the text fringing and white artifacts (light shadows) around black text with my old phone's camera.
I hope these images will give you better idea of what issue i am facing right now with AMOLED display.
The outcome required with this discussion would be to check if there is something wrong with my phone's display or this is generally normal with AMOLED displays.
And if there is some problem with sharpness, do i need to get it replaced???
P.S. - I have tried to capture the issue.. i don't know the pictures are doing the justice to reflect the issue but all these mentioned halo effects and text fringing are quite visible to the naked eyes.

My poco f3 also has this problem

this is a common problem with pentile AMOLED panels it seems. I am not sure why this still exists in 2021 though. Maybe Xiaomi and other Chinese brands are using low-quality panels. I checked a few phones. Newer Samsungs don't have this issue.
From what I searched it did popup in S3 when Samsung started using these panels first.
I checked Realme GT ME and MI 11x both and both had the same issue, whereas some old Vivo phones, MI A3, Samsung S5 were perfectly fine.
I think it's just cost-cutting from these brands to use lower-quality E4 panels.

wow... looking to my F3.... i see normal... cant see that very small haloing effect.
Try it with black text on white or white text on black also on setting menu...
Maybe my eyes not good anymore...

Your concerns are absolutely valid and the commentors claiming sharpness doesn't exist are noobs. I've had the same issues with Xiaomi phones. It's a little like a lottery. For the same model, some devices can get a high quality display and some units get a lower quality display where you can see it to be overtuned or artifacts.
Or there could be another possibility as widely discussed, Xiaomi takes displays from multiple manufacturers but ends up using the same fine tuning values for all the units of the model, for Eg Poco F3. As a result, your friend can have the exact same device and a perfect look display while you are left with a shady display with issues.

Question Screen off gestures

So I just switched from my Oneplus 7T Pro to the s22 ultra
The samsung overall is so much faster and powerful but in the oneplus there was a feature like when the screen was locked if you drew an O the torch would switch on or if you draw a V so it's another command. On the s22 ultra however there's no features like this so I was wondering if there are any apps or anything that can help with this

Muk25 said:
So I just switched from my Oneplus 7T Pro to the s22 ultra
The samsung overall is so much faster and powerful but in the oneplus there was a feature like when the screen was locked if you drew an O the torch would switch on or if you draw a V so it's another command. On the s22 ultra however there's no features like this so I was wondering if there are any apps or anything that can help with this
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I'm in the same position. I'm missing the OnePlus screen off gestures. I notice how frequently I used the two finger downward swipe to play and pause music. I'm interested if there are any third party apps that do this.