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Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
Hi Guys,
I have just got the fantastic little E72 and it is great in almost every way. I want to be able to use my Shure headset with it so I need the adaptor that everyone else wants to find it seems. I have a HTC adaptor but it will not fit into the socket. The socket on my E72 has 5 pin holes and both sides of the interface are curved. The HTC adaptor has one curved side and a straight side so it will not fit in. The E72 does use the usb connection for its headset and audio output but when I did find a Samsung adaptor with both sides curved that did fit into the phone socket it still outputted the music to the external speaker so I am at a loss. There are, therefore, different types of mini usb connectors. Can someone tell me the exact spec of this one fitted to the E72 and possibly where I might get an adaptor that will work??
Much appreciate the help with this.
usb cant be changed to 3.5mm or any type of audio
the reason the htc one dont work is the same reason it dont fit
it have extre connectors which carry analog audio
normal miniusb is a serial digital interface which dont carry analog audio
and usb headsets for pc are really external audiocards which make the serial digital data to analog audio
and that require the ability to usbHost which few pda's support
Many thanks for the explanation. However, my phone came with a stereo headset with mic. I currently use this for listening to music but the quality is not good. Does this not mean then that I should be able to get analogue signal from it??
Please forgive my ignorance; I am learning!!
it all comes down to where you connect your headset
if it's the miniusb port benQ got an extention of miniUSB like htc's extusb
if it's a 2.5mm minijack like older htc devices used you can get a conveter to 3.5mm
The only port on the Benq E72 is the mini USB one. There are no other jacks. The problem is that both sides of the metal housing within this are curved so the HTC one (with one side of the miniUSB adaptor straight) wilkl not fit. I did manage to find and buy an adaptor that was branded Samsung and when I fitted it into the miniUSB socket on the phone it would not work. The music continued to play through the rear speaker even though the adaptor was connected. My supplied headset connects to the phone through the same miniUSB paor but again the metal housing of the miniUSB jack is curved at both sides. I hope this explains better.
as i said then miniUSb should not alow audio at all on the device
and htc use extusb which have more legs then miniusb so if it dont fit
it should not be because of any curves
does your benq device not alow headsets at all ?
if it does how are they connected?
The only connector on the Benq E72 is the miniUSB port. In the attached pic you will see the connector for the wired head set on the left and the miniUSB to standard USB for connection to the PC on the right. I looked inside the silver housing of the connectors on both cables and they seem to have 5 pins along the top (widest) part with the main section being hollow. Now the miniUSB housing on the actual phone does have a plastic inside with 5 pins and , I guess, more connectors along the top of this for the 2 cables. I am to assume that the plastic insert in the phone itsaelf is for the electric charger. There is nothing more that I can give you except to say again that the miniUSB is the only connector on the phone.
if it support headsets connected to the usb connector it must be using some sort
of special usb connector like htc's extusb
i would look at their site if they sell converters
Thanks, as I said the only way to connect the headset is by the miniUSB port so it must support audio. The issue is that the HTC miniUSb headset has a curved side and a straight side so it will not physically fit into the Benq E72 connector. I did get my hands on a philips miniUSB that did fit into the socket on my phone but the music still outputted to the rear speaker of the phone. So, my question is, is there different types of miniUSB wired internals? It would seem so. And would anyone know which would work for the Benq E72 windows mobile poweredsmartphone?
@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
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@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
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No problem ,,
I have the device for over 2 months now and like it a lot. Had a HTC S730 before which was thick and cumbersome and I didnt really need the keyboard. This phone, in contrast, is very light and thin. It runs WinMo 6.0 and I do not find it slower than the HTC in any way. On reflection maybe a little faster even. It is very competively priced as it includes bluetooth, quad band radio and wi-fi. The bluetooth also carries the A2DP functionality. The screen, whilst a little small at 2" is very bright and clear. The keypad has large buttons and is very tactile and positive when texting.There's a 2 meg camera included as well as the microSD slot with a max size of 2GB. You can, however, with software, increase this to the norm of 6GB which I have done. Also the rear speaker (built in) is a reasonable size and therefore can play a decent sound for music if you are travelling and in a hotel room for example. And finally, it has little important assets like the ability to turn on auto redial, a button on the left side which when pressed and held will open the text messaging in a send window. There is also the facility to adjust the screen brightness as well as an internet radio and ringtone editor. All in all, for the price, I definitely recommend this phone. I have bought four more since for friends of mine. They paid of course!!! Now all I need is the miniUSB to 3.5mm audio jack sob sob...
Can you tell if a lanyard can be linked to the device - and where? On all available photos on the net I have not seen any holes for fitting the lanyard to :-(
I am really tempted to get that one as well - escpecially as it is the ONLY (!) smartphone with only a normal keyboard that can use microSDHC cards (after installing updated drivers). They seem to double in size every year - and if the standard is fully supported 6 or 8GB (as reported sucesfully) should not be the limit.
Lanyard
Yes, you can connect a lanyard at the top of the phone. If you can see the top view of the device there is a little hole there. You simply slide off the back cover and fit the lanyard to the designated area on the main body of the deivce (very easily) and then slide the back cover on again.
Now we just need a cooked 6.1 rom for the device!!!
Thanks - I found a set of pictures at a Taiwan Review site (http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=2621&tid=3430647&page=1&list_page=1) - this tells it as well
I was only looking for a small device that can read memory cards > 4GB and this is the one now. Otherwise my Tornado in the house of a Robbie still perfectly fits my need. I also tried WM6 and WM6.1 on that - but fell back to the original WM5 there.
Just can't wait to get it in my hands - it was really a bargain on ebay. Search for benq E72 there and you will see a guy in London selling refurbished E72 for just 69 GBP (9 of 21 left). I just could not resist for that price, sigh...
BTW - on topic: did anyone try the Motorola mini-USB connectors - for the Razor and alike?
I dont think so. DO you habve one that you coulkd try when you get the phone? If so, let us know here cause I would really like to use my own ear buds.
BTW I think you will love this phone! It really impresses me. And also Expansys anre selling brand new ones for about £90.00!!
Is there a WM6.1 for this? Thanks.
Benq E72
Not thatI am aware of. I know that another avid fan of the E72 has requested ROM cookers to try to come up with the 6.1 version bit I am not sure if anyone has taken up the challenge.
I hope that it will happen soon ...
I have received mine in the meantime, but the refurbished one was delivered with a non-fitting headset :-(
Well, it fits mechanically, but there is no sound at all. It looks like a cheap replica of a Motorola Stereo Headset - but also a normal Motorola does not work in this socket. So I am out of any possibility to measure the data of the socket to build an adapter. I complained at the dealer - hopefully there still is a working headset available!
Otherwise the device is nice - only English language installed though for menus and T9.
bye
tobbbie
With some help from Taiwan - the USB wiring for the headset is identified, see my blog article at http://tobbbie-benq-e72.blogspot.com/2008/12/hacking-usb-headset-connector.html for more details. The main information is:
....So the final result is then for the numbered pins of the USB connector (1-5):
Must be connected with a resistor less than 200 kOhms to ground (pin 5). The voltage will rise briefly to battery level but then drop back to 0,16 V to stay there. I suspect that accepting calls with the headset button will introduce new functionality here...
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates right here) - must be connected to a speaker or a pulldown resistor at device-headset connection time.
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates left here)
Microphone channel (checked to work with Audionotes)
Grounds
So luckily no complicated electronics - get your soldering irons ready!
BTW: have still not received the original headset :-(
I'm somewhat surprised more has not been made over the issue of having the mic turn off when I connect a cable from aux to my car stereo. My car doesn't have bluetooth connection for the radio (only has phone connectivity -- 3 year old Camry). So when I want to have Pandora playing in the car over the car speakers, it will appropriately turn on bluetooth when a call comes in, but I can't get voice search to function using Google Maps.
This wasn't an issue with my Samsung Captivate although I don't know if this is an issue with the hardware or the fact that I was running Gingerbread previously.
Additionally, when I connect headphones to the phone I don't have an issue (it appears the headphones have a rather poor mic connected to it which is picking up the voice search command).
Solutions in order of preference:
(a) Some configuration in ICS that I haven't found yet that works like my Samsung Captivate.
(b) A y cable with male microusb on one side / male usb [power] and a male aux [audio] on the other. this would combine with a female usb to car charger. Don't even know if this exists.
(c) An aux cable with a built-in, decent, mic. Don't know if this exists.
Am I missing something? Does anyone know of accessories that satisfy (b) or (c) above?
I've been through similar issues before and had to cobble together the solution through multiple accessories. I'm rather disappointed, given how happy I am with this phone, that I have to go backwards given that this wasn't a problem with the Captivate. Either that or with all my searches I've not found the easy solution here to being able to connect to the stereo AND use voice search on my phone without jumping through hoops.
EDIT: ok. Found this thread after using alternative search terms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787592
I found the iBolt for the Samsung Galaxy S3 does exactly what I need. It has a y cable that splits from microusb to both power [aux] and charging [usb]. I'm glad that I don't have to consider creating one as folks have in other threads using resistors and soldering irons.
Nicer yet is that the dock handles the 4200mah extended battery from Qcell which I didn't think would be the case (no protective case).
I got mine at a Verizon store for $40, which is less than I'm finding it on Amazon so it seems like a win all around.
Well i have never bought anything from amazon while "all" my friends buy stuff from amazon and despite the prices that they have on amazon compared to local shops is just amazing. You can buy fm transmitter for like 4£-40£ whereas here the cheapest is like 75$ really.
I am looking for one which has a SD card slot, may be able to be plugged into the 3.5mm socket and would get its "power" through USB and not one of those "car" sockets because i often have to use my GPS which hooks into one of the two USB ports.
I'm also looking for some decent car holders where i can pop my phone in easily..
Any suggestions?
shad0wboss said:
I am looking for one which has a SD card slot, may be able to be plugged into the 3.5mm socket and would get its "power" through USB and not one of those "car" sockets because i often have to use my GPS which hooks into one of the two USB ports.
I'm also looking for some decent car holders where i can pop my phone in easily..
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As far as the phone holder goes, I use a phone holder that goes in my CD slot (as I never use my CD player): http://www.amazon.com/Mountek-nGroove-Universal-Phones-Devices/dp/B004G1L52Q
I run a GPS, in-car DVD player (for the kids), and phone charger - so I use one of these to power all of them: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Way-Cig...eywords=Car+Cigarette+Lighter+Socket+Splitter
As far as FM transmitters go, any other option is better. Does your car have AUX-in or Blutooth? I bought an AUX module for my Honda, as it didn't come with an AUX-in port. You may be able to do something similar.
If you must use an FM transmitter, maybe something like this will work? It has a phone charger built in as well: http://www.amazon.com/Excelvan-Wire...qid=1367368532&sr=1-3&keywords=fm+transmitter
deadcatt said:
As far as the phone holder goes, I use a phone holder that goes in my CD slot (as I never use my CD player): http://www.amazon.com/Mountek-nGroove-Universal-Phones-Devices/dp/B004G1L52Q
I run a GPS, in-car DVD player (for the kids), and phone charger - so I use one of these to power all of them: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Way-Cig...eywords=Car+Cigarette+Lighter+Socket+Splitter
As far as FM transmitters go, any other option is better. Does your car have AUX-in or Blutooth? I bought an AUX module for my Honda, as it didn't come with an AUX-in port. You may be able to do something similar.
If you must use an FM transmitter, maybe something like this will work? It has a phone charger built in as well: http://www.amazon.com/Excelvan-Wire...qid=1367368532&sr=1-3&keywords=fm+transmitter
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Nice Share. I will buy it soon for my use.
So, I've had this idea for a while, and I managed to build a semi-working prototype of them. Basically, I'm looking to convert them into something that can be used both wired and wireless via bluetooth. I know they have a wireless version of these headphones, but I already have the wired ones, and I prefer the look of the wired ones more. My prototype consisted of some cheap BT earbuds that I took the electronics out of and soldered wires from where the earbud speakers were soldered to where the 3.5mm jack was connected (i know that they probably shouldn't be directly on them and should probably have a diode or something to prevent signal from going out the port, but I'm never going to be using the wired and wireless at the same time so not much point, plus, it was a prototype). Anyway, in my attempts to turn it into a more permanent solution inside the cups, I managed to fry the board for the cheap BT earbuds. So the project went on the shelf (figuratively) for a while. Now, I'd like to actually get this done as I'm getting an Android Wear 2.0 device soon. Suggestions on a micro form factor bluetooth audio receiver? Also, another thing is that the headphones themselves use a 1.5V AA battery to power the bass stuff, would it be possible to use the existing battery compartment for powering the chip, perhaps using a similar size Li-Po battery that is 5 volts that is run in series to both the headphones board (down volted to 1.5v) and the BT chip? I'm also looking for some advice on how to control the power to the BT chip without having to open the things up as it requires a screwdriver. button poking through the side of the cup? or a switch under an earmuff? Basically looking for part idea and other suggestions.
It's nice to see someone skullcandys as most headphones that get nodded are the expensive kinds, I like the style and simplicity of Skullcandy so I'll chime in.
Bluetooth: as for the circuitry I haven't been able to find a standalone board for purchase, you could try one of those cheap "make any headphones Bluetooth" adapter and re use the guts. Also I've seen a few that use 16ohm drivers instead of 32 so that could cause issues
Charging: since you're using the crusher amplified one, thats gonna be tricky. From the Bluetooth headphones I've torn apart, they usually have a charging ic that matches the battery's may(i.e. 800mah or so). You might have to make another circuit like a micro USB to a multi battery charger ic but that also poses it's own issues with the bass circuit and the Bluetooth board circuit so it would be a gamble. Kinda makes it seem like you'll need a Bluetooth headphones, with built in haptic feedback as a donor to work.
Switches/buttons: you'll probably have to get crafty with a Dremel and some switches. I've though of doing this and Drew up some plans where I just mount buttons through the plastic and wire it to whatever it needs connection to. I haven't found adequate buttons for this though.
Honestly I hate to say it as I love a good project where you get what you want from making it. But the crusher wireless sound like a better fool proof option.