Sorry about this, it could well be obvious-
I'm used the the nexus way of thinking, where I started on pure android, so anything 'on top' of that (custom roms) would never lose anything, simply gain things. I'm getting an HTC One tomorrow (M8), which brings questions I've never had to think about, as I've always live in Google's bleeding edge of updates lane:
Now, obviously HTC runs sense which has various features, battery saving mode, blink feed etc, camera app specifically designed for duo, etc.
If I flash it so it's effectively the Play edition, does it keep any of the HTC apps? (I suppose what I',m asking is where is the line between HTC apps and HTC's "ROM"). Same goes for if I flash a custom ROM like Carbon or CM...
Also, and again sorry about this, but I don't understand how it works- if Carbon ROM (for example) is up to 4.4.4, and 4.4.4 hasn't been officially released for this HTC phone, does that just mean that the ROM developer has ported the 4.4.4 features and code to be compatible with the HTC in that ROM?
BlinkFeed, battery saving and the camera are integral parts of the ROM. They require Sense, they require a sense based ROM. They're not standalone apps. You will lose then if you don't have a sense based ROM and they cannot be added after.
Maybe there is a decent camera app for the Google Phone Experience edition.
You kind of have to choose whether you want Sense or not.
tmorterlaing said:
Sorry about this, it could well be obvious-
I'm used the the nexus way of thinking, where I started on pure android, so anything 'on top' of that (custom roms) would never lose anything, simply gain things. I'm getting an HTC One tomorrow (M8), which brings questions I've never had to think about, as I've always live in Google's bleeding edge of updates lane:
Now, obviously HTC runs sense which has various features, battery saving mode, blink feed etc, camera app specifically designed for duo, etc.
If I flash it so it's effectively the Play edition, does it keep any of the HTC apps? (I suppose what I',m asking is where is the line between HTC apps and HTC's "ROM"). Same goes for if I flash a custom ROM like Carbon or CM...
Also, and again sorry about this, but I don't understand how it works- if Carbon ROM (for example) is up to 4.4.4, and 4.4.4 hasn't been officially released for this HTC phone, does that just mean that the ROM developer has ported the 4.4.4 features and code to be compatible with the HTC in that ROM?
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Kinda following on from Ben, the Sense-based ROMs have all of HTCs proprietary apps, such as BlinkFeed and their camera app. It's what you'll see when you get.
The Google Play edition (GPe) is basically like a Nexus device - it'll have none of HTCs visual changes or apps and will use all the Google apps like a Nexus device. You do get the motion gestures to turn the screen on with a swipe, and it does still use the depth camera and boom sound but other than that it'll behave like a Nexus. Some HTC apps can be downloaded from the Play Store but not many...
I tend to float between the GPe ROM and Sense depending on my mood, I'm on Sense right now
Check out this videohttp://youtu.be/8q3gGWn6HwM. Guy goes into quite a bit of detail explaining the differences of GPE vs. Sense 6. I actually used this video as a reference when I decided to try out a GPE Rom on my M8 a few weeks back.
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Thanks so much all- that really simplifies it. So I guess it's best to view sense as just another ROM with it's own features- just in the same way Carbon rom has it's own battery saver modes, which I assume work a little differently again.
Next question then, the things I like from sense are the camera app and the battery saver modes- purely because theyre designed specifically for my device. Is there anything remotely similar? Is there a way of getting those APKs from sense or soemthing?
And finally, my phone has a carrier (O2) splash screen on startup- if I need to sell this in future, is there a version of the images I can get hold of or even just the latest version of sense? (As if it's come straight form the factory)- I can't seem to see how to fully factory flash this phone anywhere :s
Sorry to ask all these questions, but I can't seem to have become very confused by getting an HTC One M8, being so used to the Nexus purity and ease of unlocking- I have done various searches but people always seem quite convoluted in answers :s Sorry!
Q1: Is it possible to get back to HTC Factory settings to the original, OEM locked state, with Sense 6 and with no evidence it was ever unlocked and rooted? I was a touch freaked out by the 'Tampered with" writing on the HBoot screen.
Q2: Is the red writing dealt with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53899551 Standard for EVERYONE who unlocks their HTC? It's not anything to worry about?
Q3: Does Xposed work on Stock sense?
Q4: The only thing I think I might be missing from Sense is the battery saving modes, which seem to be very well calibrated for the phone. is there anything similar and downloadable out there? (Both normal battery saving and extreme)- sometheing that intelligently dials down theprocessor and brightness but doesn't just disable mobile data, for example. I also love the camera app, and Sense Gallery app- but I care less because they don't affect my phone getting me through the day.
Q5: (Subjective perhaps): would you say Sense 6 is worse on battery life substantially? Ie, If I'm on CM11 it should be better battery life than sense anyway right? So those battery saver modes are less important for me?
Q6: Where can I find information about 'default' settings for stock, locked HTC (on sense and/or playstore edition):
-Governors
-Mpdescision on or off?
-Clock speeds
Q7:Another reason I got confused. I thought things like swipe to wake were built in to the ROM or Kernel, so when I put Carbon rom on my phone I was expecting it to not be on by default, because that was the case with my N4. But they are on so does that mean that the Carbon Rom devs have purposefully built it in to keep similar to HTCs stock functionality or is there somehow a 'deeper' HTC level that none can touch?
Q8: The play store apps from HTC that don't work on my M8 (like Gallery)- is it because HTC puts a root checker in their app code? If so is that one of the sacrifices of rooting my M8?
Q9: Sorry to be 'one of those people' but I'm so familiar with Nexus Roms, all of the M8 ones are utterly new territory, not least because there's a Play store M8's and Sense M8s- is there somewhere I can go and compare M8 Roms? Is there a reason the big ones (CM, Carbon, PA) don't seem to get much of a mention when googling 'best m8 rom' or is it purely because people prefer Sense based roms over standard?
Sorry, and thanks SO much in advance if you have time to even answer a few of these! I'll buy you a coffee if you answer all of them
tmorterlaing said:
Sorry to ask all these questions, but I can't seem to have become very confused by getting an HTC One M8, being so used to the Nexus purity and ease of unlocking- I have done various searches but people always seem quite convoluted in answers :s Sorry!
Q1: Is it possible to get back to HTC Factory settings to the original, OEM locked state, with Sense 6 and with no evidence it was ever unlocked and rooted? I was a touch freaked out by the 'Tampered with" writing on the HBoot screen.
Q2: Is the red writing dealt with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53899551 Standard for EVERYONE who unlocks their HTC? It's not anything to worry about?
Q3: Does Xposed work on Stock sense?
Q4: The only thing I think I might be missing from Sense is the battery saving modes, which seem to be very well calibrated for the phone. is there anything similar and downloadable out there? (Both normal battery saving and extreme)- sometheing that intelligently dials down theprocessor and brightness but doesn't just disable mobile data, for example. I also love the camera app, and Sense Gallery app- but I care less because they don't affect my phone getting me through the day.
Q5: (Subjective perhaps): would you say Sense 6 is worse on battery life substantially? Ie, If I'm on CM11 it should be better battery life than sense anyway right? So those battery saver modes are less important for me?
Q6: Where can I find information about 'default' settings for stock, locked HTC (on sense and/or playstore edition):
-Governors
-Mpdescision on or off?
-Clock speeds
Q7:Another reason I got confused. I thought things like swipe to wake were built in to the ROM or Kernel, so when I put Carbon rom on my phone I was expecting it to not be on by default, because that was the case with my N4. But they are on so does that mean that the Carbon Rom devs have purposefully built it in to keep similar to HTCs stock functionality or is there somehow a 'deeper' HTC level that none can touch?
Q8: The play store apps from HTC that don't work on my M8 (like Gallery)- is it because HTC puts a root checker in their app code? If so is that one of the sacrifices of rooting my M8?
Sorry, and thanks SO much in advance if you have time to even answer a few of these! I'll buy you a coffee if you answer all of them
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1. Yes, but you'll need S-OFF to do so (which is easy thanks to Sunshine and TowelRoot!!)
2. Nothing to worry about
3. Yes, but not everything as some are for stock Android only
4. Not that I'm aware of
5. No, but that's my take on it
6. Don't know, I don't root my phones any more
7. HTC bake it into their ROM as standard but I couldn't tell you if it's reliant on kernel, ROM or both
8. So long as you're on Sense it should work fine
My phone should arrive tomorrow and while the Cloud feature seems interesting, I am not sure I will find it very useful. On top of that I know that since Razer bought the Nextbit brand/company it is unknown just how long cloud support will be supported.
So is it recommended to put a custom ROM on it, I assume esp on XDA it is highly advised just due to the nature of the community, but what custom ROM is regarded as the best? I am sure if is up to personal opinion but generally speaking? Also, what features are hindered besides the cloud backup by using the recommended custom ROM?
Lastly, just assuming I stick with Stock OS for now, what tips and tricks does everyone have for me? Thanks in advance!
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My phone should arrive tomorrow and while the Cloud feature seems interesting, I am not sure I will find it very useful. On top of that I know that since Razer bought the Nextbit brand/company it is unknown just how long cloud support will be supported.
So is it recommended to put a custom ROM on it, I assume esp on XDA it is highly advised just due to the nature of the community, but what custom ROM is regarded as the best? I am sure if is up to personal opinion but generally speaking? Also, what features are hindered besides the cloud backup by using the recommended custom ROM?
Lastly, just assuming I stick with Stock OS for now, what tips and tricks does everyone have for me? Thanks in advance!
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Omni is considerably recommended by pretty much everyone, but you should check out some new roms like AICP, which was just released. The only thing that doesn't work is the cloud as you mentioned. Unlock your bootloader before setting anything up when you first get it so you can flash roms and stock images as well with fastboot.
VenomMOD said:
Omni is considerably recommended by pretty much everyone, but you should check out some new roms like AICP, which was just released. The only thing that doesn't work is the cloud as you mentioned. Unlock your bootloader before setting anything up when you first get it so you can flash roms and stock images as well with fastboot.
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I like versions of Android that are light and speedy, stable, and very few of no bugs. Don't need a ton of bells and whistles. Is there a rom that allows the fingerprint scanner, NFC, and even the Android pay to work( I think I read it isn't possible for Android pay to work with custom roms? Which custom ROM is best suited for that?
While I have flashed custom roms on a few devices over the years I am no expert. Are there "idiot proof" guides out there to make sure I don't brick my new phone?
Saix_XIII said:
I like versions of Android that are light and speedy, stable, and very few of no bugs. Don't need a ton of bells and whistles. Is there a rom that allows the fingerprint scanner, NFC, and even the Android pay to work( I think I read it isn't possible for Android pay to work with custom roms? Which custom ROM is best suited for that?
While I have flashed custom roms on a few devices over the years I am no expert. Are there "idiot proof" guides out there to make sure I don't brick my new phone?
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NFC and Fingerprint work on pretty much every ROM, I can't say the same about Android pay though. If you really need everything to work and be stable, I'd stay on stock.
VenomMOD said:
NFC and Fingerprint work on pretty much every ROM, I can't say the same about Android pay though. If you really need everything to work and be stable, I'd stay on stock.
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So far on stock I am liking it. I can see what people say about it getting warm, but it cools off fast. Also battery seems decent but I play some games and watch youtube on my phone so I am used to not amazing battery life. The one thing I can't seem to get used to is how bright the notification panel is. Is there a way in the settings to change this? I looked but I can't find anything, I tried some apps that do it, but they change the aesthetics way too much outside of changing the color. I tried developer options, System UI Tuner, and even an app that enables night mode but the notification area is still bright white.
Not sure if there is a way to do it but figured I'd ask.
Saix_XIII said:
So far on stock I am liking it. I can see what people say about it getting warm, but it cools off fast. Also battery seems decent but I play some games and watch youtube on my phone so I am used to not amazing battery life. The one thing I can't seem to get used to is how bright the notification panel is. Is there a way in the settings to change this? I looked but I can't find anything, I tried some apps that do it, but they change the aesthetics way too much outside of changing the color. I tried developer options, System UI Tuner, and even an app that enables night mode but the notification area is still bright white.
Not sure if there is a way to do it but figured I'd ask.
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There isn't such a way to change the notification tint yet. Maybe it will be in an upcoming version.
Hello guys, here a htc m7, m8, m9 and few nexus devices user
Can I ask something to anyone who was here before me? just to be updated about the situation:
-is there vulkan support here?
-no daydream eh?
-what exactly do we lose with AOSP roms? sound should be fine since the bass/high system is a phisical thing...I just expect camera performance drop
-I was something about AOSP CAF....is there really a pure aosp compiled port?? with no lineage stuff? would be great
-Is EAS really magic as they say?
-Is there a full stock rom zip? with no wipe?
-I feel the display colors a little unbalanced...how are you dealing with that?
-Camera is great, no dubt, but I expected more....
I was on nexus 5x and google camera's hdr+ does an amazing job on post process, making shots more eye-candy, despite of quality
are you using third party apps? any advice? low light shots are really noisy
Thank you very much for your attention
throcker said:
Hello guys, here a htc m7, m8, m9 and few nexus devices user
Can I ask something to anyone who was here before me? just to be updated about the situation:
-is there vulkan support here?
-no daydream eh?
-what exactly do we lose with AOSP roms? sound should be fine since the bass/high system is a phisical thing...I just expect camera performance drop
-I was something about AOSP CAF....is there really a pure aosp compiled port?? with no lineage stuff? would be great
-Is EAS really magic as they say?
-Is there a full stock rom zip? with no wipe?
-I feel the display colors a little unbalanced...how are you dealing with that?
-Camera is great, no dubt, but I expected more....
I was on nexus 5x and google camera's hdr+ does an amazing job on post process, making shots more eye-candy, despite of quality
are you using third party apps? any advice? low light shots are really noisy
Thank you very much for your attention
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If it isn't there, it will be soon. Taiwanese 10's have it I think, but it'll get pushed to all of them in coming OTA's.
I don't believe so, needs AMOLED per Google's official specs
I think the only feature loss with AOSP is VoLTE and WiFi Calling.
Yes, its WIP but the only thing not working that I know of is video recording. Eliminater74 will fix it.
Eh, its neat but its not the be all, end all. It's more of an alternative to PnP.
Yes, check Sneakyghost's thread or download a RUU.
Custom kernel's and the AOSP ROMs have color sliders for fine tuning.
I use Google cam on Res Remix and the stock camera for Sense. Works for my uses.
munkyvirus said:
If it isn't there, it will be soon. Taiwanese 10's have it I think, but it'll get pushed to all of them in coming OTA's.
I don't believe so, needs AMOLED per Google's official specs
I think the only feature loss with AOSP is VoLTE and WiFi Calling.
Yes, its WIP but the only thing not working that I know of is video recording. Eliminater74 will fix it.
Eh, its neat but its not the be all, end all. It's more of an alternative to PnP.
Yes, check Sneakyghost's thread or download a RUU.
Custom kernel's and the AOSP ROMs have color sliders for fine tuning.
I use Google cam on Res Remix and the stock camera for Sense. Works for my uses.
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Many thanks for reply! I didn't know about amoled for [email protected]
I think that in aosp we should lose boomsound and proprietary camera stuff, that help with image processing....
Tried nebula rom yesterday, I expected a cleaner rom....and something more on performance haha but htc devices never played well with aosp IMO
I can tune the display, but without a good tool....you know, is hard to achieve a good calibration
I'm going to try google camera, but nexus have dedicated post processing systems that, really, make the difference....just look at pixel shots....though pixel have similar camera, they look far better
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
I'm gonna copy>paste my answer from another thread:
This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).
I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.
I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.
MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.
And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).
=)
Here's the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/best-custom-rom.4275947/page-6
Kimbaroth said:
I'm gonna copy>paste my answer from another thread:
This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).
I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.
I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.
MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.
And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).
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Here's the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/best-custom-rom.4275947/page-6
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Thanks for the reply! Yes I read your post on that other thread as well and it was a very good post. I feel that your observation is accurate. MIUI based ROMs seem to give us the most stability and feature set. Unfortunately AOSP ROMs have things lacking that MIUI ROMs have by default like the Camera. I think this is making me inclined to install a MIUI ROM I guess.
A quick follow up question: Can I install GCam on the Xiaomi.eu ROM? The only feature I want from GCam is the "photosphere" mode.
litetaker said:
A quick follow up question: Can I install GCam on the Xiaomi.eu ROM? The only feature I want from GCam is the "photosphere" mode.
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You can try that by yourself, there are a lot of gcam variants, better download a couple of them and try one by one: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
litetaker said:
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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Overall, I'd also rather have Vanilla Android.
But I do like Xiaomi's added permission-manager, which restricts Apps further, Dolby Atmos (Much better than Moto Dolby, and Razer Dolby in AOSP ROMs), and the MIUI Camera App.
Yes, you can use Gcam on MIUI as well. The ports have gotten good.
Recommended Stable Google Camera Port Versions
A list of suggested / recommended and known to be stable Google Camera apks.
www.celsoazevedo.com
BSG GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Arnova8G2 GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Arnova8G2.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Arnova8G2 (Beta) GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Arnova8G2 (Beta).
www.celsoazevedo.com
Calling works normal on MIUI. Call Recording too.
litetaker said:
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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i've used most of custom roms and just like the user above, I switched back to miui (weekly xiaomi eu). I found some annoying issues in every single rom, like random reboots while using LTE, and high idle batery drain.
Aosp roms are more clean and smooth, but they lack of the stability of Miui and some features like the MEMC, dobly, game mode, etc.
So, in the mean time I will stay on miui
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i've used most of custom roms and just like the user above, I switched back to miui (weekly xiaomi eu). I found many issues in every single rom, like random reboots while using LTE, and high idle batery drain.
Aosp roms are more clean and smooth, but they lack of the stability of Miui and some features like the MEMC, dobly, game mode, etc.
So, in the mean time I will stay on miui
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I'm also on Xiaomi.eu Weekly. I've seen your question here on XDA about the random reboots, but I don't know a solution to your problem.
I've only stayed on a single AOSP ROM for max. 2 days before switching to other AOSP ROMs, but I only experienced 1 crash during Android Setup, I think.
I only used 4G/LTE internet, no calls as far as I know.
I tried many aosp custom roms and went back to stock Miui. High end phones have extra features like Dolby atmos which improves sound quality a lot and no custom rom sounds as good as Miui, and some very useful built in features like timing AOD which is very convenient,... I feel like Aosp custom roms would be better for mid range phone like Redmi notes, Poco F3 is powerful enough to be smooth even in Miui
Hey,
I just switched to MiuiMiX, most things are great. But there are some things that are missing, and I hope you can help me .
First, the most important thing, navigation gestures with third party launcher. Is there an efficient way to make gestures works with third party launcher (I use Niagara Launcher, and it worked great with AOSP ROMs), I tried many things, but none worked or in a bad way, annoying to use the stock launcher while I paid for Niagara launcher which is perfect for me. The other problems aren't really caused by MIUI, or I just need some adaptation, or else...
Otherwise, what do you recommend for MIUI based ROM ?
I don't care a whole lot for the Xiaomi Miui based roms to clunky to bloated and slow compared to lets say Arrow is clean fast and battery life is much better , even Xiaomi.eu version is bloated in my opinion, themes , miui music app and video and the the built in Avast scanner all crap! but to each his own .
jefffrom said:
I don't care a whole lot for the Xiaomi Miui based roms to clunky to bloated and slow compared to lets say Arrow is clean fast and battery life is much better , even Xiaomi.eu version is bloated in my opinion, themes , miui music app and video and the the built in Avast scanner all crap! but to each his own .
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That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
litetaker said:
That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is a nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
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Nice, I'm have some lags with MiuiMiX... And MIUI is still very limited with some things... It's a choice to make AOSP and MIUI have advantages and disadvantages..
litetaker said:
That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
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some very valid points my friend but you got to ask yourself do the positives outweigh the negatives ? I will agree miss the stock camera and Atmos but dam everything else just works better..I just can't deal with the bloat of the stock rom.
jefffrom said:
some very valid points my friend but you got to ask yourself do the positives outweigh the negatives ? I will agree miss the stock camera and Atmos but dam everything else just works better..I just can't deal with the bloat of the stock rom.
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I have hidden away the bloat completely. I don't see any major negatives with this ROM so far.
In my opinion, if you want to save some time then don't think about flashing custom ROM in the initial days of purchase. Just stick with preloaded stock ROM so that you can enjoy the fancy features which lure you into buying that phone. Flashing is an addiction after some time and there are tons of ROMs which get regular updates that will keep busy in flashing ROMs. I think the thumb rule should be to wait until 1 year (typical warranty period and end of regular update cycle from OEM) before flashing any custom ROMs. After that, you will definitely enjoy ASOP ROMs.
I always go away from miui due to security and privacy concerns + the bloated applications and the ads. I have found ARROWOS and HOS to be working the best on PocoF3, keep in mind miui has higher antutu scores because it has a specific profile for bench-marking called "nolimit"
Noe367 said:
Hey,
I just switched to MiuiMiX, most things are great. But there are some things that are missing, and I hope you can help me .
First, the most important thing, navigation gestures with third party launcher. Is there an efficient way to make gestures works with third party launcher (I use Niagara Launcher, and it worked great with AOSP ROMs), I tried many things, but none worked or in a bad way, annoying to use the stock launcher while I paid for Niagara launcher which is perfect for me. The other problems aren't really caused by MIUI, or I just need some adaptation, or else...
Otherwise, what do you recommend for MIUI based ROM ?
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There is a guide thread open on how to use gestures with any launcher, you need magisk, and Nav Remover Module
ketanmore said:
In my opinion, if you want to save some time then don't think about flashing custom ROM in the initial days of purchase. Just stick with preloaded stock ROM so that you can enjoy the fancy features which lure you into buying that phone. Flashing is an addiction after some time and there are tons of ROMs which get regular updates that will keep busy in flashing ROMs. I think the thumb rule should be to wait until 1 year (typical warranty period and end of regular update cycle from OEM) before flashing any custom ROMs. After that, you will definitely enjoy ASOP ROMs.
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Many Roms have semi automated updates. Arrow for example has 1 button to check for an update and then pops another to install the available update. That's it, everything is done in the background, you can use your phone as usual. Restart whenever it's convenient for you and you are done. Just like in stock MIUI
Zimmster said:
Many Roms have semi automated updates. Arrow for example has 1 button to check for an update and then pops another to install the available update. That's it, everything is done in the background, you can use your phone as usual. Restart whenever it's convenient for you and you are done. Just like in stock MIUI
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Is it straightforward to install updates for ArrowOS with Magisk root? Or will it block updates or something?