I am curious to know why the SGS3 roms based on touchwiz are so large?!? They are roughly 650MB compared to AOKP which is about 160MB. Even the debloated stock rom about 350MB. Not bashing our Rom devs, just wondering what could take up 300-490MB.
Infamous_Cheez said:
I am curious to know why the SGS3 roms based on touchwiz are so large?!? They are roughly 650MB compared to AOKP which is about 160MB. Even the debloated stock rom about 350MB. Not bashing our Rom devs, just wondering what could take up 300-490MB.
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well the stock rom is around that size too...
I'm curious about that, too. My Nexus S only had ROM sizes about 50mb. But one thing is the ROM didn't have any APPs, I had to flash those separately.
anything on a base rom (TouchWiz, MotoBlur, Sense) they all are way above AOSP stock size. Nexus S is based on AOSP stock. There is an insane amount of bloatware and crapware and "extra functions" that our stock rom comes with. Just the way it is.
I have installed Googl Play Edition 4.3 on my S4.
As a result, I have lost all of those cool Samsung features that rely on built in sensors
Is tgere any way to get those sensors working with Google play edition?
I mean things like turning pages by hand in the air above the phone, and scrolling ul and down by tilting the phone.
Thanks.
Is tbere a way to go back to Samsung stock rom? I did not back it up.
retfeg said:
I have installed Googl Play Edition 4.3 on my S4.
As a result, I have lost all of those cool Samsung features that rely on built in sensors
Is tgere any way to get those sensors working with Google play edition?
I mean things like turning pages by hand in the air above the phone, and scrolling ul and down by tilting the phone.
Thanks.
Is tbere a way to go back to Samsung stock rom? I did not back it up.
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No TW features on 4.3. I think there was a minimal amount things on 4.2.2, but nothing really like the actual TW experience. If you want to go back stock, you have two choices: either Odin back to 100% stock and re-root... which is the boring way. OR you can d/l a modified/stock ROM and flash that with whatever custom recovery you have. Check the development sections; there are quite a few stock choices, and which one to pick just depends on whether you want it themed, bone stock looking, etc.
Thanks so much.
Do you have any recomedarions on modified stock Rom?
I am mostly concerned about a good battery life and speed of the device and getting back TW features.
By tbe way, do all midified stock Roms have TW features in them?
What are yiur recomedarions based on what I am looking for?
Thanks a lot
retfeg said:
Thanks so much.
Do you have any recomedarions on modified stock Rom?
I am mostly concerned about a good battery life and speed of the device and getting back TW features.
By tbe way, do all midified stock Roms have TW features in them?
What are yiur recomedarions based on what I am looking for?
Thanks a lot
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All modified stock ROMs have the TW features.
I've personally been using BobcatROM from the i9505 development section, but from what I could tell, the only differences between the modified stock are themes and small differences here and there. Just check a few out, if some of the tweaks or changes interest you, try it out.
lordcheeto03 said:
All modified stock ROMs have the TW features.
I've personally been using BobcatROM from the i9505 development section, but from what I could tell, the only differences between the modified stock are themes and small differences here and there. Just check a few out, if some of the tweaks or changes interest you, try it out.
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Could you please point me to the right section to get modified original roms?
Is it in T-Mobile S4 Android Development section or t the T-Mobile S4 Android Original Android Development section?
I am not sure whether the original implies modified original rom section?
Would you also please include a link to where I can find your bobcat rom?
Thank you so much!
retfeg said:
Could you please point me to the right section to get modified original roms?
Is it in T-Mobile S4 Android Development section or t the T-Mobile S4 Android Original Android Development section?
I am not sure whether the original implies modified original rom section?
Would you also please include a link to where I can find your bobcat rom?
Thank you so much!
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I gotta let you do SOME of the legwork But seriously, the mod/stock ROMs will be in Android Development and you can find kernels in the Original Development section. Considering you flash a T-Mobile kernel directly after flashing a ROM, you can use ROMs from any S4 development section including the "original development" section; be it AT&T, Sprint, etc. The only restriction is make sure not to flash a ROM from the i9500 section. The 9500 (Exynos octa-core) and 9505 (Snapdragon like the m919 and others) is the "international version" and share a forum; just different subsections dedicated to each one individually. The i9505 section is safe, which is where Bobcat is located. It's pounded into the ground, but it's worth mentioning again; if you rely on WiFi calling, you will want a T-Mobile TouchWiz ROM. If you're like me though and care nothing about WiFi calling then there's no reason to stick with only the T-Mobile ROMs unless you just prefer them.
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I gotta let you do SOME of the legwork But seriously, the mod/stock ROMs will be in Android Development and you can find kernels in the Original Development section. Considering you flash a T-Mobile kernel directly after flashing a ROM, you can use ROMs from any S4 development section including the "original development" section; be it AT&T, Sprint, etc. The only restriction is make sure not to flash a ROM from the i9500 section. The 9500 (Exynos octa-core) and 9505 (Snapdragon like the m919 and others) is the "international version" and share a forum; just different subsections dedicated to each one individually. The i9505 section is safe, which is where Bobcat is located. It's pounded into the ground, but it's worth mentioning again; if you rely on WiFi calling, you will want a T-Mobile TouchWiz ROM. If you're like me though and care nothing about WiFi calling then there's no reason to stick with only the T-Mobile ROMs unless you just prefer them.
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II am a little confused.
Don't roms come with Kernels?
Do I need to download a separate rom and kernel
I just want to get an aokp rom tgat will give me the original tw features. Where do I go for that?
retfeg said:
II am a little confused.
Don't roms come with Kernels?
Do I need to download a separate rom and kernel
I just want to get an aokp rom tgat will give me the original tw features. Where do I go for that?
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ROMs do come with kernels, and that's why if you flash an S4 ROM from outside the T-Mobile section you need to flash a T-Mobile kernel. The T-Mobile ROMs obviously already have T-Mobile kernels. If you flash a ROM from the AT&T section, your device will be using an AT&T kernel and will not boot. But if you flash the AT&T ROM and flash a T-Mobile kernel directly afterwards, your device will then have the T-Mobile kernel and will run that AT&T ROM just like it was built for your device. The only way to retain your TouchWiz features is to use any ROM based on stock. If you want AOKP, CM, AOSP, etc you will lose all of the TW features. I think WatchON works on some (most?) non-TW ROMs now; but as far as things like Air Move, Smart Pause/Stay, the TouchWiz camera, and the other gimmicky features... they don't work outside of TouchWiz. Read up. Go to the dev sections and read, at the very least, the first post for the ROMs. That first post will almost always give you an idea of what features the ROM includes, screenshots of what it looks like, what's not working that is supposed to, and if it's TouchWiz based or CM/AOSP based.
And throw lordcheeto a thanks or two lets him know you appreciate his leg work and explanation.
Thanks so much for all this info!
Really appreciate it.
Hello everyone,
I was fedup for my samsung bloatware and stuff so I decided to root my device and was using CM 10.2 for sometime.
so far I liked this custom ROM. But due to some touchwiz specific features I want to go back to the touchwiz UI, specifically for camera, multi window etc. but the bloatware which comes free with it scares me off.
so can you please suggest if there is any custom ROM available which is based on touchwiz and at least provide android 4.2.2 if not 4.3
or if there is any other ROM out there ( non touchwiz based ) which does provide samsung camera and multi window functionallity.
with thanks.
What you need to do is have a look at development forum and look thru the roms available for the features you require. that's your best bet at finding what suits you.
^^ This ^^
As these threads usually spiral into arguments about which rom is "better" than another and are full of opinion, this thread is closed.
I'm new to S3 tmob t999. What's the best most stable rom for this phone? The stock is 4.3. I want to root asap and either custom rom or if stock is good can stay with stock.
As XDA is not a support site, and as "Best" is a subjective term, users are expected to head over to the development threads and try all of the wonderful products being offered. Flash them all, test them, and make this determination based on your desires, needs, and wants.
Can soneone give me the ROM that's in the Title? Thanks alot
Is this a specific ROM you've seen before?
If not, there might be better options than what you ask. Reasons being: "Bloat" is completely subjective. What one person considers "bloat" another may consider a useful app. You may be better off starting from the stock 4.4.4. Sprint ROM, and debloating yourself. Or find a 4.4.4 custom ROM, and see if it fits your needs.