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In-place upgrade for JB's release? Please help

If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?

javier180 said:
If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.

Halmo said:
Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
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Im new to the terms.. isnt flash the same as install?
Also, I used Odin to root my phone, How would I go about flashing the JB rom to my phone? Hopefully I'm saying this right. The thing I dont get since Samsung is releasing JB to the s3 why would the JB work flawless with the s3. Couldnt they use the Nexus 7's JB and port it to the S3. I'm still trying to understand how all this works. I dont want to have any hardware issues, like my camera or wifi not working from what i heard in the past.

Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.

Its_Dave said:
Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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I cant thank you enough for this reply. It was very informative! I been doing some research as well so I can get a better understanding on how these roms work. As sad as this sounds I found out cyanogenmod10 is basically a mod rom of jellybean. If these rumors are in fact true, would the jellybean release from samsung speed of the developing process for cyanogenmod10? Since they should share the same code or what not.
I think at this point I dont care to backup. All my pics are sync to my dropbox automatically and my can go to the playstore and redownload my payed apps there. So backing up is not needed with me.

Yeah, CM10 is a 4.1.1 rom as far as I know, I still have my old i9000 and installed it on it the other day. Its nice and has all the jelly bean features, I find it a bit laggy but all the functions work great. The laggyness is hard to say, the phone is old but they are also still porting over all the features, I think its a bit of both at the moment but since its not my daily main phone I don't play with it alot.
The Cyanogenmod is a great rom, and lots of third party roms are based off that rom just with other mods on top of it. Personally since its still a beta like it says in the forum i'm willing to wait and the rumours on jelly bean coming from samsung at the end of august seem to me more true by the day. And once that is released or leaked CM will be alot better faster. But you never know still waiting on ICS from those slow pokes on my tab 10.1 while in the mean time they have released two more tables with ICS haha.
So like i have said before its really up to you. You can install the beta and try it out, I know people are using it as a daily driver. And you can always flash back to stock.

[Q] HTC Swipe-to-Unlock feature on CM12?

I recently switched from the Viper One rom to the nightly builds of Cyanogenmod12 for my m8. Everything seems to be fine in CM12 and I like the stock android a lot better than sense, but one of the features that I used the most on sense 6 is missing. I was wondering if there was a way to use the swipe up to unlock on CM12, by this I mean the feature that sends you directly into the OS without going to the lock screen. Any help is appreciated.

Dr.Toiletface said:
I recently switched from the Viper One rom to the nightly builds of Cyanogenmod12 for my m8. Everything seems to be fine in CM12 and I like the stock android a lot better than sense, but one of the features that I used the most on sense 6 is missing. I was wondering if there was a way to use the swipe up to unlock on CM12, by this I mean the feature that sends you directly into the OS without going to the lock screen. Any help is appreciated.
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The swipe to unlock is built into the Sense framework. You won't get it on AOSP ROMs until/unless Google makes it a part of stock Android

a lighter version

Hi guys!
Just bought SXZ1C last week and really like it! I would like to change it to lighter OS tough. There is many Google and other apps / programs that I do not mind. Is there any list of programs that are safe to disable? or lighter "stock" ROM for the phone? I have not unlocked boot loader yet. What would be best opinion for me?
thanks guys!

I have been using this Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3097458
It's based on v242 and it's light compared to other stock Roms. Only thing that was missing for me was the radio app but I pushed it to system from another Rom (doesn't matter if radio app is from 242 or 270).

Best custom ROMS for HTC M8S (m8ql_ul)

Hello im new to this, so before i go messing my phone up, i was wondering what the best and most stable custom ROMS are for the
m8ql_ul, preferably with no bloatware. Thanks in advanced

Mine: Cyanogenmod 12.1.
You shouldn't use PandoraROM, it is a bit old and should be removed. I haven't used it but I'm skeptical, I think it's just a modified Sense ROM. Worst thing: it still has the stagefright bug. So I don't recommend to use it.
There simply are no other ROMs for this device and no S-Off either.

And im guessing that trying to use roms for the M8 are a NONO

Correct. It's a totally different device. But it looks the same, so HTC just decided to call it M8s. Silly huh.

Well that sucks, i cant even remove the bloatware from the device as it is. what about stock roms minus the bloatware?

Just use Cyanogenmod. It's what you want. Sure, you can take out the bloat from Sense, but that will prevent future updates from working and will cause you much additional grey hairs. With Cyanogenmod 12.1 I already did that work (and grew the grey hairs!).

Benefits of S-OFF and converting to GPE

Got my hands on a European M8 (M8_UL) after a terrible experience with the Sprint variant.
Anyway, I forked out 25 dollars for the Sunshine license and it really was worth it. I thought it'd be confusing, like Revone or Firewater.
It's amazing how an app can get S-OFF without any fastboot/adb codes, it literally took 5 minutes.
Anyway, I got S-OFF, changed CID to HTC__001 and am currently running 6.12.401.4 (Android 6.0), but I'm a bit bored.
So I was wondering what other benefits are there of S-OFF other than flashing a different regions ROM?
Also, do you guys reckon that I mess around with Sense 7 and flash different custom ROMs or do I go ahead and convert to GPE? I'm a big fan of Stock Android (huge surprise, my main phone is a Nexus 6), but I've really come to like HTC Sense after the Sense 5.0 update, Sense 7.0 is pretty awesome and way better than TouchWiz on my recently retired Galaxy S6.
And lastly,how long will the M8 last from now in terms of software updates?
Asking about both Sense and GPE, will it get Android N or is 6.0 the last software update for both variants?
Any replies will be greatly appreciated.

murtaza02 said:
So I was wondering what other benefits are there of S-OFF other than flashing a different regions ROM?
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There is a variety of things that can be done, such as manually flashing different radios, and modded hboots (to remove the red warning text on the boot screen).
S-off allows you to downgrade firmware; and also bypasses the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
murtaza02 said:
Also, do you guys reckon that I mess around with Sense 7 and flash different custom ROMs or do I go ahead and convert to GPE? I'm a big fan of Stock Android (huge surprise, my main phone is a Nexus 6), but I've really come to like HTC Sense
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You don't need to "fully convert" in order to run a GPE ROM. Just pick a GPE based ROM from the Development section, and flash it like any other custom ROM. Make a backup in TWRP, and you can easily revert to Sense. S-off is not required to do any of this.
S-off is only required if you want to "fully convert" to GPE using RUU. The main reasons for converting, are to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system partition results in more media storage); and to get official GPE updates. However, you would need to convert back to Sense partitioning, in order to run Sense ROMs (otherwise, the system partition is too small to accept Sense ROMs, and the install will fail).
All in all, it sounds like flashing a GPE ROM is probably the best for your, since it sounds like you may want to switch back and forth between GPE and Sense. If you try the GPE ROM, and decide you like it, you can always decide later to "convert" to GPE fully.
And if you are bored with the stock OS, then yes that probably means you are ready to flash some custom ROMs to mix things up (whether it be Sense or GPE ROMs, or trying both!). As with a lot of things on XDA, if you've thought about it enough to post . . . well that probably means you are ready to do it!
murtaza02 said:
And lastly,how long will the M8 last from now in terms of software updates?
Asking about both Sense and GPE, will it get Android N or is 6.0 the last software update for both variants?
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I don't think any one knows this but HTC. And they may not even have decided that yet, depending a lot on their financial standing and whether they have the resources to keep supporting this device (in addition to more newer devices).
From what I can find (don't own the phone), the M7 has stopped at Lollipop, with no official update to MM. Based on that I'd expect the official updates for the M8 to stop at MM, or at the latest N. But again, only time will tell. And even once official updates have stopped, this device will probably still have some decent support from CM and other AOSP developers.
Overall, we've enjoyed some good updates from HTC. In contrast, I'm pretty pissed (as are others) with Samsung for their lack of support on my Tab Pro 8.4. While more popular Sammy devices (Galaxy S phones, Note phones) are getting updated; Sammy pretty much abandoned the Tab Pro 8.4 out of the gate. It had a minor update in the first few months, but never got past the KitKat OS it was released with.

redpoint73 said:
There is a variety of things that can be done, such as manually flashing different radios, and modded hboots (to remove the red warning text on the boot screen).
S-off allows you to downgrade firmware; and also bypasses the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
You don't need to "fully convert" in order to run a GPE ROM. Just pick a GPE based ROM from the Development section, and flash it like any other custom ROM. Make a backup in TWRP, and you can easily revert to Sense. S-off is not required to do any of this.
S-off is only required if you want to "fully convert" to GPE using RUU. The main reasons for converting, are to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system partition results in more media storage); and to get official GPE updates. However, you would need to convert back to Sense partitioning, in order to run Sense ROMs (otherwise, the system partition is too small to accept Sense ROMs, and the install will fail).
All in all, it sounds like flashing a GPE ROM is probably the best for your, since it sounds like you may want to switch back and forth between GPE and Sense. And if you are bored with the stock OS, then yes that probably means you are ready to flash some custom ROMs to mix things up (whether it be Sense or GPE ROMs, or both!).
I don't think any one knows this but HTC. And they may not even have decided that yet, depending a lot on their financial standing and whether they have the resources to keep supporting this device (in addition to more newer devices).
From what I can find (don't own the phone), the M7 has stopped at Lollipop, with no official update to MM. Based on that I'd expect the official updates for the M8 to stop at MM, or at the latest N. But again, only time will tell. And even once official updates have stopped, this device will probably still have some decent support from CM and other AOSP developers.
Overall, we've enjoyed some good updates from HTC. In contrast, I'm pretty pissed (as are others) with Samsung for their lack of support on my Tab Pro 8.4. While more popular Sammy devices (Galaxy S phones, Note phones) are getting updated; Sammy pretty much abandoned the Tab Pro 8.4 out of the gate. It had a minor update in the first few months, but never got past the KitKat OS it was released with.
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Best reply I've ever read on XDA.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to write me such a detailed post.
Since the phone has a custom recovery, I think I'll start off with ViperOne or ARHD and then move towards GPE eventually when I get bored.
Again, thank you so much.
As for what you said about the Tab Pro, it's sad how Samsung is with their devices, the main reason I sold my S6 for a Nexus 6.
I was about to buy one (a Tab Pro) when a friend of mine discouraged me saying Samsung is barely able to update all their phones, let alone the tons of different tablets they release. So I held back, didn't buy one.
However, the Tab Pro has a Snapdragon 800 processor so it should have decent developer support, or at least a working lollipop ROM.
Sent from my Nexus 6

murtaza02 said:
I was about to buy one (a Tab Pro) when a friend of mine discouraged me saying Samsung is barely able to update all their phones, let alone the tons of different tablets they release. So I held back, didn't buy one.
However, the Tab Pro has a Snapdragon 800 processor so it should have decent developer support, or at least a working lollipop ROM.
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That's correct, that XDA has been the savior for that device. It not only enjoyed Lollipop support via CM, but even Marshmallow. Probably the only reason I've been able to stick with the device for this long.
You made the right call not getting the Tab Pro. Not just for lack of updates, but mine (and seemingly a significant number or others) suffer from a hardware/battery connection issue where the battery does not always charge to full, but stops at random % along the way; and needs to be rebooted to continue charging.
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murtaza02 said:
Best reply I've ever read on XDA.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to write me such a detailed post.
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Appreciate you saying so, and you're very welcome.