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My HOX has been declared DOA (Slight screen flicker) so I am waiting on my new 1 coming then I have to send this one back, sooooo temptation got the better of me and I decided to pop it open for a nosey....
So... does anybody want me to test anything? Seen as it’s a write off anyway?
You do realise HTC *might* see if the device has been opened and if they're feeling nasty they can bill you for the new device?
abc27 said:
You do realise HTC *might* see if the device has been opened and if they're feeling nasty they can bill you for the new device?
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Might? Oh well, while you have it open, see if you can came the brands and/or model numbers off some of the chips like GPS and Wi-Fi.
drop the battery, hold vol+ and vol-, connect usb cable.
see if an apx device appears in windows.
f4flake said:
drop the battery, hold vol+ and vol-, connect usb cable.
see if an apx device appears in windows.
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This would be a huge help. Possibly a big step in gaining S-OFF
M.
NO apx
may be other ways.
so long as the battery is unconnected.
vol+ and power then connect usb
vol + and vol- and power and connect usb.
Even if you get to a point where it just isn't causing anything to pop up in device manager then we can at least stop pursuing it and focus on the pogo pins as a way to apx mode.
battery no where in sight or reconnect bat when usb is plugged in etc?
Not might, will. They would be perfectly within their rights to do so, as well. Once you agree a return, it's no longer your property to open, not to mention that there's no way for HTC to know you didn't open the phone before your problem occurred.
You'd better hope they don't notice...
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shouldn't have opened the phone dude, they will check for this, I used to work for O2 and this was the procedure, they might turn around and say you did it you opened it up,
hope you got insurance or something
mox123 said:
shouldn't have opened the phone dude, they will check for this, I used to work for O2 and this was the procedure, they might turn around and say you did it you opened it up,
hope you got insurance or something
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There's no "void" stickers until you start pulling the mainboards out. The only way they would notice is if the phone was somehow damaged in the process.
Re the APX mode - battery needs to be totally disconnected to start. Just try different combos with volume/power buttons and the usb connection. We're all just guessing atm.
M.
mattman83 said:
There's no "void" stickers until you start pulling the mainboards out. The only way they would notice is if the phone was somehow damaged in the process.
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Void stickers are not the only way to tell if a phone has been opened. (I know. I used to work for a major consumer / business electronics manufacturer, and one of my duties was inspecting returns and approving or denying warranty and refund claims.)
I wouldn't have taken it apart. There may be a small pin on the motherboard that will identify a case breach and log it. Wouldn't be hard for them to see it. And charge you for the phone.
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Yes, I wouldn't do that either.
BUT HE DID IT and now wants to help. Now, let's focus on to get something out of this and cut the crap!
nickhuk: How about some pics? And how do you open HOX without damaging it?
jsntrenkler said:
I wouldn't have taken it apart. There may be a small pin on the motherboard that will identify a case breach and log it. Wouldn't be hard for them to see it. And charge you for the phone.
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He could always say it's how it was bought. Hence screen issues..
That's what I'd be saying.
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AliceXES said:
Yes, I wouldn't do that either.
BUT HE DID IT and now wants to help. Now, let's focus on to get something out of this and cut the crap!
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Yes, let's throw him under the bus. There's every chance that he's not done anything HTC will detect *yet*, but that he will do so in trying to help out. Let's make sure he's aware of the chance that continuing may cost him the entire phone, if he hasn't already done so. Then he can decide if he wants to take that risk.
Or we can just open our own phones... and if we don't want to, why should we not try to help somebody else have a bit of common sense too?
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nickhuk: How about some pics? And how do you open HOX without damaging it?
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There have already been multiple product teardowns of the One X posted, including detailed photos. Getting him to take photos and describe the experience won't tell you anything that 20 seconds with forum search couldn't have done.
Hint: It comes apart with a spudger.
AliceXES said:
Yes, I wouldn't do that either.
BUT HE DID IT and now wants to help. Now, let's focus on to get something out of this and cut the crap!
nickhuk: How about some pics? And how do you open HOX without damaging it?
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Right, its already open now, cant take that back so it wont never go back to being un-opened, so get all these guys all the info you can that may be able to help move development forward.
drvsbsm said:
Right, its already open now, cant take that back so it wont never go back to being un-opened, so get all these guys all the info you can that may be able to help move development forward.
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Wrong. It snaps back together just fine, presuming he didn't break anything in opening it. (How do you think HTC puts it together in the first place?)
It's possible he hasn't yet done anything that will land him in hot water with his warranty, and that he will do so if he continues fiddling. It's equally possible he's already shot his warranty. Nobody knows, but if it's the latter he can always tear things back apart and fiddle when he gets his unwarranted phone back from HTC.
I respect the fact the OP wants to help, and the last time i checked that was the ethos of this forum. All i'm seeing is the poor guy being flamed for opening a phone. I'm sure he/she knew the risks. Time being a factor i noted that it was wasted with people assuming control based on previous experience.
"used to work in a *fill in the blanks*" is all very well but wins no respect if it's not followed up with a "so here's how to find out"
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I respect the fact the OP wants to help, and the last time i checked that was the ethos of this forum. All i'm seeing is the poor guy being flamed for opening a phone. I'm sure he/she knew the risks. Time being a factor i noted that it was wasted with people assuming control based on previous experience.
"used to work in a *fill in the blanks*" is all very well but wins no respect if it's not followed up with a "so here's how to find out"
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Ok so rather than criticising, lets give him a list of procedures to try to enter apx
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i have bricked my phone want turn on at all i tried all htc button configurations and nothing at all .... my phone was s-off bootloader unlocked but i send back for warranty and guess what htc gave me new phone instead
How did you brick it?
i just play whit terminal in twrp and just type some commend wrong and after reboot my phone won't turn on at all
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i just play whit terminal in twrp and just type some commend wrong and after reboot my phone won't turn on at all
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this is my problem,help please
just do what i did contact htc support team and told them that your phone won't turn on after ota update and that u tried everything all buttons charge all night and nothing happen they will take your phone for repair but because they can't solve problem most probably they will give u new phone that what happens whit mine
Only thing because I got new phone I lose s-off
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Only thing because I got new phone I lose s-off
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You are worried about losing s-off on a non working phone instead of getting a s-on device that actually works again !?
Never seen that before !
No not at all I got new phone and is s-on I m happy about that....my old was sunshine s-off so I have paid 25$ and now I have pay again if firewater does not work
drut said:
i just play whit terminal in twrp and just type some commend wrong and after reboot my phone won't turn on at all
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So you lied and claimed a warranty replacement for irresponsible actions that you performed while modding the phone. That is immoral and fraud.
Phones aren't for "playing" with, and it sounds like you were doing things without the proper knowledge; or at least not taking the proper care. If you are going to experiment and play around, you need to take responsibility for your actions and be prepared to replace or repair the phone with your own money. If you aren't willing to take that responsibility, don't mod the phone.
If there is any wonder why phone manufacturers lock bootloaders, s-on etc. in the first place; its due to irresponsible actions like this.
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suhuf said:
this is my problem,help please
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It unlikely that you did the exact same thing as the OP; and he didn't clearly state what he did anyway. Don't be lazy and just jump on another person's thread and say "me too". The details of your condition and what you did are almost always going to be different than the "other guy".
You need to state the exact details of what you did, otherwise its impossible for anyone to help you, and you won't get any response here.
Yes I did but that might help to someone who have problem with qhsusb_bulk I heard lot people did not mod them phones and phone stop working as well so this just message to everyone who is afraid sending phone for repair if u don't like do not read and do not told me what's right or what's wrong cheers
drut said:
Yes I did but that might help to someone who have problem with qhsusb_bulk I heard lot people did not mod them phones and phone stop working as well so this just message to everyone who is afraid sending phone for repair
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Obviously, if a phone is not modded and stops working within the warranty period, its eligible for repair. There is no particularly useful information in your posts.
drut said:
if u don't like do not read and do not told me what's right or what's wrong cheers
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This is an open forum, and all are entitled to post their opinions as long as they stay within forum rules. "If u don't like do not read" goes both ways.
drut said:
Yes I did but that might help to someone who have problem with qhsusb_bulk I heard lot people did not mod them phones and phone stop working as well so this just message to everyone who is afraid sending phone for repair if u don't like do not read and do not told me what's right or what's wrong cheers
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It isn't merely a matter of right or wrong, though it is certainly that as well. Every time someone pulls a stunt like this, we all suffer. Samsung used to make the most open phones on the market, and I'm not even talking purely about Android. I was able to sideload Java apps onto my Flight II long before I could afford a smart phone. I have a nearly unbrickable Galaxy S2. You can use Odin to write to practically any memory on the device. Getting root on that phone was as easy as pushing CWM, booting it, and rooting it.
Now? You can't even get root on an S4 or S5 without cracking the security software, and front and center is the Knox warranty validation counter to watch you. Why is it there? Because of mess like this.
It is one thing to complain about an unrelated hardware problem not being covered because you are S-off or boot loader unlocked. I would be ticked if I couldn't get my camera, hardware buttons, or screen replaced because of that. However, to brick a phone and try to get it replaced for free? Nope, you rolled the dice, you take the cards. Otherwise, don't complain when HTC starts encrypting the boot loader and HTCdev goes away. These are literally some of the last flagship phones on the market that are still "open".
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So you lied and claimed a warranty replacement for irresponsible actions that you performed while modding the phone. That is immoral and fraud.
Phones aren't for "playing" with, and it sounds like you were doing things without the proper knowledge; or at least not taking the proper care. If you are going to experiment and play around, you need to take responsibility for your actions and be prepared to replace or repair the phone with your own money. If you aren't willing to take that responsibility, don't mod the phone.
If there is any wonder why phone manufacturers lock bootloaders, s-on etc. in the first place; its due to irresponsible actions like this.
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It unlikely that you did the exact same thing as the OP; and he didn't clearly state what he did anyway. Don't be lazy and just jump on another person's thread and say "me too". The details of your condition and what you did are almost always going to be different than the "other guy".
You need to state the exact details of what you did, otherwise its impossible for anyone to help you, and you won't get any response here.
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Hello.
not because of laziness.
Because of the weakness of my english.
I'd read about the problem until now were the same.
does not turn on.
can not be charged.
Can not access recovery menu etc etc.
It was when formatting the SD card.
I've written more than size when formatting section.
I think the reason you do not like writing long.
but again, thank you for responding.
Thank you.
But no one ask for your opinion obviously so u can keep it for u and thread is just for information purposes so I just take risks and I been lucky enough to get new phone obviously HTC could just charge me for repair I did not ask them for new phone
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Hello.
not because of laziness.
Because of the weakness of my english.
I'd read about the problem until now were the same.
does not turn on.
can not be charged.
Can not access recovery menu etc etc.
It was when formatting the SD card.
I've written more than size when formatting section.
I think the reason you do not like writing long.
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Not sure what you are trying to say with that last line, but giving the as much specific information and detail as possible is always going to be better when asking for help. Its these seemingly minor details that often times differentiate one problem for another, and therefore the solution (if there is one).
I understand that English is not your first language. But if you want help here (English language forum), you are going to just have to try a little harder than a native English speaker; and we will try to work with you and help you as much as possible.
How exactly did you format the SD card? Do you mean the internal storage (not removable SD)?
If you somehow wrote over the hboot partition or partition table, you aren't going to be able to recovery except by JTAG service.
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drut said:
But no one ask for your opinion obviously so u can keep it for u and thread is just for information purposes
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Again, its a open forum and all are welcome to post their opinions. Its not your prerogative to "ask" our opinion or give permission.
As jshamlet states quite well above, such behavior impacts the modding community as a whole.
redpoint73 said:
Not sure what you are trying to say with that last line, but giving the as much specific information and detail as possible is always going to be better when asking for help. Its these seemingly minor details that often times differentiate one problem for another, and therefore the solution (if there is one).
I understand that English is not your first language. But if you want help here (English language forum), you are going to just have to try a little harder than a native English speaker; and we will try to work with you and help you as much as possible.
How exactly did you format the SD card? Do you mean the internal storage (not removable SD)?
If you somehow wrote over the hboot partition or partition table, you aren't going to be able to recovery except by JTAG service
applied to m7 hoping to find a file, such as the HTC Unbricking Project'm looking for.
You are right, I deleted hboot.
I asked a few places now jtag is not possible, they said.
I thank you for your interest
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This thread has served its purpose and so I'm closing it. We do not encourage anyone to defraud a phone manufacturer. Knowing the great company that HTC is, they probably would have replaced the phone anyway.
So basically I've lost the C from the back of my HTC. The T came off as well but I stuck it back on. Anyway I could replace it?
meleelord said:
So basically I've lost the C from the back of my HTC. The T came off as well but I stuck it back on. Anyway I could replace it?
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Try sending it back to HTC for repair?
Duck tap and some spit should get the job done.
I kid... As said above; try calling HTC.
Bobbi lim said:
Try sending it back to HTC for repair?
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Just so he can get one letter? Seems troublesome and redundant.
scream4cheese said:
Just so he can get one letter? Seems troublesome and redundant.
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don't see the problem, its a hardware defect and it doesn't matter how big the issue is. from a failing volume button to a cosmetic letter falling off. Warranty = warranty and should support any kind of problem.....including a simple letter falling off.
Mr Hofs said:
don't see the problem, its a hardware defect and it doesn't matter how big the issue is. from a failing volume button to a cosmetic letter falling off. Warranty = warranty and should support any kind of problem.....including a simple letter falling off.
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Spending most likely several weeks without your phone so they can glue a letter on teh back seems like overkill to me, but hey, if you're THAT principled.
thebobmannh said:
Spending most likely several weeks without your phone so they can glue a letter on teh back seems like overkill to me, but hey, if you're THAT principled.
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its not about principles and its not about me, its about personal preference. if the OP chooses that road then let him. he's in his rights. who are we to judge that ?
but i see all of this will get out of hand soon i guess..... time for me to stop posting again.
OP good luck on getting the C back. whatever you choose to do i hope it will feed your needs.
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its not about principles and its not about me, its about personal preference. if the OP chooses that road then let him. he's in his rights. who are we to judge that ?
but i see all of this will get out of hand soon i guess..... time for me to stop posting again.
OP good luck on getting the C back. whatever you choose to do i hope it will feed your needs.
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SOrry if you took that as an attack, I meant if ONE is that principled, not specifically you. Warrantying something like that seems purely something one would do on principle.
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SOrry if you took that as an attack, I meant if ONE is that principled, not specifically you. Warrantying something like that seems purely something one would do on principle.
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well i don't really agree, its cosmetic and small i agree there. is the phone damaged so it doesn't do its job.....no also not the issue. but a person can expect, seeing the high cost of the device that it would be flawless. of course bad things can happen but getting it fixed under warranty should not be a problem.
in fact when the user wants to re sell the device its worth more with all the letters complete. not talking about the letter itself now exactly but seeing the device in a 100% completeness is much better for the seller in the end, and when he/she can do that under warranty it might help the seller in the end to drag a bit more money out of the deal.
hope i made my point clear in a nice way as intended.
same thing happen to me..
I just pealed off "h" and "t" and cleaned off the glue.. now it looks as slick as ever xD
I decided to just leave it as it is. I can't be bothered with sending it back just for a letter lol. Really the only reason it bothers me is in case I want to sell it, but that won't be for a while yet!
I'll wait and see what happens.
Pick off the other letters, then colour the spaces in with a permanent marker or a little bit of nail polish.. I doubt anyone is going to look close enough to notice (or if they do.. I'm sure 99% of people aren't going to care, as long as you aren't trying to palm it off as being new..)
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Pick off the other letters, then colour the spaces in with a permanent marker or a little bit of nail polish.. I doubt anyone is going to look close enough to notice (or if they do.. I'm sure 99% of people aren't going to care, as long as you aren't trying to palm it off as being new..)
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*puts on glasses* I would.
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What parts do i need to purchase? A llittle lost.
Bump
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What the.....g
I was going to say you need to purchase a shovel, so you can bury it.... it's dead.
kozmo21 said:
I was going to say you need to purchase a shovel, so you can bury it.... it's dead.
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No, it isn't. It turns on and still works. All I need is LCD digitizer and bezzel right
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(With respect)
You are seriously considering a repair on that device ??
My initial response was under the assumption that your post was a joke. ..but apparently not ?
A digitizing screen would likely cost more than a replacement device. (Used)..and given the condition of the other components. ..you can almost guarantee that you'll find more trouble inside....
If you don't mind my asking. ..what happened to the phone. .??
I'm not trying to make light of the issue. ..or discourage you from trying if you truly want to attempt a repair. ..but my gosh it looks pretty serious on the surface. ..
We have good people here that are willing to help. ...but as you can see. ..The general consensus is a dead horse. ..
Perhaps you can look into a clean device for sale right here on the XDA site ??
You may be money (and time)... ahead by going another route. .
Either way. ..we are here to help if we can. ..g
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(With respect)
You are seriously considering a repair on that device ??
My initial response was under the assumption that your post was a joke. ..but apparently not ?
A digitizing screen would likely cost more than a replacement device. (Used)..and given the condition of the other components. ..you can almost guarantee that you'll find more trouble inside....
If you don't mind my asking. ..what happened to the phone. .??
I'm not trying to make light of the issue. ..or discourage you from trying if you truly want to attempt a repair. ..but my gosh it looks pretty serious on the surface. ..
We have good people here that are willing to help. ...but as you can see. ..The general consensus is a dead horse. ..
Perhaps you can look into a clean device for sale right here on the XDA site ??
You may be money (and time)... ahead by going another route. .
Either way. ..we are here to help if we can. ..g
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Honestly the point of the thread was to see what parts I needed but ended up realizing that yes, indeed it isn't worth fixing. Meant to say - ended up figuring out also the parts and seeing as to how expensive they are...eek.
Also. It was dropped about 3 times from a very high surface. First time the glass shattered. Still worked...second time, stopped responding to touch. Was dropped twice in same day from said surface. I work on really high buildings cleaning windows - doesn't help that I am blindly clumsy. My job will be the death of me.
Hey, if you don't mind - could you help me with my flex problem? I have another thread - it won't accept Sim cards and says service state: radio disabled. Been two weeks and still haven't gotten any further. Have tried everything.
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Help guys , i'm stuck with a bootloop on my g4 H815 , i figured out there's definitely no way to fix this damn phone , i even tried putting the phone in the freezer for 7 days , unfortunately that was useless , i just wanna recover my data , so if there's any way please let me know , i really can't afford to lose my data
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Help guys , i'm stuck with a bootloop on my g4 H815 , i figured out there's definitely no way to fix this damn phone , i even tried putting the phone in the freezer for 7 days , unfortunately that was useless , i just wanna recover my data , so if there's any way please let me know , i really can't afford to lose my data
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SALT: full backup.
For the alternatives https://bit.do/ilapofixg4
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Sisine said:
Help guys , i'm stuck with a bootloop on my g4 H815 , i figured out there's definitely no way to fix this damn phone , i even tried putting the phone in the freezer for 7 days , unfortunately that was useless , i just wanna recover my data , so if there's any way please let me know , i really can't afford to lose my data
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Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIVvk2JgKgw might work...
steadfasterX said:
SALT: full backup.
For the alternatives https://bit.do/ilapofixg4
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Just out of curiosity , why would we heat the phone instead of freezing it , it sounds rediculous , because we know the problem came from overheating in the first place , i just wanna understand !
Sisine said:
Just out of curiosity , why would we heat the phone instead of freezing it , it sounds rediculous , because we know the problem came from overheating in the first place , i just wanna understand !
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Well it's written in the linked post.
The reason why heat CAN help is explained here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65511137&postcount=2
It will not help in all cases and its highly risky and I wouldn't do it personally but many reported that it helped them out. Toxic fumes in an oven is nothing I wanna have though...
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Sisine said:
Just out of curiosity , why would we heat the phone instead of freezing it , it sounds rediculous , because we know the problem came from overheating in the first place , i just wanna understand !
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Because the problem seams to be the nano-weld between the main board, processor and ram.
So, when the area is heated over 100º (if I good remember...), and we apply pressure, the defect/broken weld gets re-welded, giving back the contact to the different components.
Someone corrects me if I'm wrong.
BTW, I don't advise to use the oven. Better a good hair dryer or a heating gun. Take care to don't heat too much. Better try several times increasing the temperature until it works, than fry the main board or other components.
The reason for heating up the mainboard is obviously mentioned by others here. It is done to REFLOW (reheating the solder to help better join the components together) the board, thus making it work again. Some folks also add additional things like a super-thin copper sheet and a super-thin thermal tape to help better deal with heat management, and prolong the device.
If you're going to reflow it, better use a heat gun, or a hair dryer for a very long time if you don't have a heat gun.
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Because the problem seams to be the nano-weld between the main board, processor and ram.
So, when the area is heated over 100º (if I good remember...), and we apply pressure, the defect/broken weld gets re-welded, giving back the contact to the different components.
Someone corrects me if I'm wrong.
BTW, I don't advise to use the oven. Better a good hair dryer or a heating gun. Take care to don't heat too much. Better try several times increasing the temperature until it works, than fry the main board or other components.
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Another thing please , is storage chip integrated on the main motherboard , you know just in case the heating thing doesn't work , i would definitely go for another motherboard to save my precious data !
Sisine said:
Another thing please , is storage chip integrated on the main motherboard , you know just in case the heating thing doesn't work , i would definitely go for another motherboard to save my precious data !
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See this picture: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/YdWD2sSRT6Xmbif6.huge the orange square is the "Toshiba THGBMFG8C4LBAIR 32 GB NAND Flash".
Now you know where it is
Take care while heating the cpu. Create some kind of barrier with something to avoid damage on other components.
Sisine said:
Help guys , i'm stuck with a bootloop on my g4 H815 , i figured out there's definitely no way to fix this damn phone , i even tried putting the phone in the freezer for 7 days , unfortunately that was useless , i just wanna recover my data , so if there's any way please let me know , i really can't afford to lose my data
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If the video don't play, here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIVvk2JgKgw