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ever since I updated to 2.2, no matter what rom I'm using..performance has been so poor compared to 2.1. I wish I never updated. My battery runs out quick, temperature goes up to 100F even when idle and my phone hangs every time I turn on wifi. Hopefully I find out a solution soon, i've been flashing and uninstalling roms all day these past two days. I love the phone though don't get me wrong =\
That sounds quite odd.
Are you using an unmodified SBF, or are you using a release where the author/publisher has made a lot of changes? When having problems, it may be best to stick to one release and try to narrow down your problems, instead of trying many different releases and introducing new variables into the mix.
Are you overclocking your phone - perhaps it's causing the rise in temperature? Or are you running a lot of widgets? There may be some widgets that use the system too aggressively, causing too much strain/heat.
Hi! Did you do "wipe" before and after flashing?
That is very odd. I am on Froyo and performance has been phenomenal ever since the flash.
I agree with naenee, check the ROM you're flashing...
i flashed the UK 3.4.2-117 and right now using Pay's 2.1 rom. I remember that I did wipe data/cache before flashing and after flashing. IDK, im just not having problem's with this particular rom..it seems like it happens on all the other ones im trying. I get random freezes and especially when I toggle on wifi. I recently installed setVEL and will see if battery improves, this means i don't need milestone right? I'm also using setCPU.
I might try to flash 3.4.2_131-003 PL version. Will it cause any trouble and can I go back down to UK 3.4.2-117?
Seeing as it uses the same kernel, you should be able to do so...
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I might try to flash 3.4.2_131-003 PL version. Will it cause any trouble and can I go back down to UK 3.4.2-117?
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I have been using the orange 2.2 for several days and no specific problem is noted.
well I reinstalled pays rom first and everything is working good. No more hang ups or freezes but I still can't get the battery to last as long.My phone is mostly idled, running on 2G, just one widget, and everything in settings turned down to the least minimal settings..im talking about battery saver, screen brightness all the way down..everything off! 6 hours in and im already on 70%. I can live with that but I'm using setVsel and I know it could do better. Anyone know another way I can make my battery last longer?
I'm running Pays latest rom based on the UK 3.4.2 and it runs great. I'm also using setvsel (as every defy user should) and optimized all my vsels ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected]) using stability test. I haven't had a 'normal' day of use yet, but with heavy use (installing apps, web browsing, flashing rom) I've gotten at least a full day (~15 hrs) out of a charge.
I recommend minimizing your vsels using setvsel, then judging your battery life. Check out the setvsel thread for more help.
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And remember this is a smart phone, some people report getting 2 to 3 days of use out of it. That's basically idle time tho. These new smart phones are just that, and use much more battery than the Dumbphone.
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And remember this is a smart phone, some people report getting 2 to 3 days of use out of it. That's basically idle time tho. These new smart phones are just that, and use much more battery than the Dumbphone.
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Even if that's the case (and I dispute it, I use my phone a fair amount in the ~3 days the battery averages), it still doesn't explain why the OP's phone is dropping 30% in 6 hours while idling.
When I updated to froyo, my battery life went from about 15 hours of use to 21 hours between charges. So I'm thinking the op has an app doing the draining.
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Unfortunately, this is a characteristic of Android.... Ridiculously inconsistent in the battery department.
Wife's phone is on official froyo, has been amazing since updated (a few weeks ago) but since yesterday some weird reason it's been super glitchy and freezing up. Not sure why...haven't changed anything to it and she's only downloaded an app or two (such as pandora) in the last couple days...I was playing around with it trying to figure out what was up...can't figure it out. I went into titanium backup to freeze some apps thinking maybe some blur crap was freezing it up but TB froze up so I can't even get in there. Also, same as OP, the battery has been heating up really quick lately, especially when on wifi.
Not sure what's up here...but I'm hoping nothing serious! Will keep you all updated on this...we'll see if there is a trend going on here.
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ever since I updated to 2.2, no matter what rom I'm using..performance has been so poor compared to 2.1. I wish I never updated. My battery runs out quick, temperature goes up to 100F even when idle and my phone hangs every time I turn on wifi. Hopefully I find out a solution soon, i've been flashing and uninstalling roms all day these past two days. I love the phone though don't get me wrong =\
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check your cpu usage... if it's constantly arround 99%, you may experience the "usb-plug/unplug"-bug.
try enabling usb debug and restart your phone.
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Unfortunately, this is a characteristic of Android.... Ridiculously inconsistent in the battery department.
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I would rather say it is a characteristic of people using android, to have widely different usage patterns, causing differences in how long a charge lasts for each.
Hi there. Have you tried to recalibrate the battery? There is an app on the marke called Battery Calibrator. From what I understand if you play with roms the battery can give you problems so it need to be calibrated again. I hope this can help.
For those interested... I'm having a problem, I don't know yet if it's a bug or a hardware defect.
My phones wastes A LOT of battery while it should be suspended.
I've tracked the problem to, apparently, Motorola's SIM driver. From what I've discovered so far, the SIM isn't accepting the suspend state and therefore the "suspend" process uses too much CPU time... all of this when the phone is, supposedly, saving battery.
As I can't get a motorola engineer involved, I can't say for sure if this is the true cause... but it's the closer I've got to a diagnostic, so far.
Your problem might or not be related to this, but if you're interested about what I've found or what my kernel log looks like so you can compare with your own problem... this is the thread at motorola's owner forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47721
I can't make a poll thread from Tapatalk I guess, so I'm just looking for comments.
I got the notice to download the 5.0 update today. I'm hesitant to do so due to the many issues reported for other devices. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that had serious issues until google released the update to 5.1. I do not want to repeat that experience (it took months of waiting).
I have the US version of the 8.4 inch Tab S.
For those of you who have installed the update, have you noticed any issues, specifically memory related? I am not looking for opinions about whether you like Lolipop, so I would request only comments regarding what differences, if any, you notice in how the tablet is running after the update.
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I have the U.S. Tab S 8.4 WiFi and updated to Lollipop. It's running smooth and snappier than KitKat. I haven't noticed any memory issues with it. Battery life is good so far, on par with how it was under KitKat for me.
Thanks. I would hope samsung would make certain the update would not cause this problem, but you never know! It's pretty well documented at this point.
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Mine reboots constantly. Garbage.
So we've got one person who updated without problems and one who is having reboots. Who else has taken the update and what experience did you have?
Also, does anybody know what the options are to downgrade if it turns out that 5.0 does have a lot of problems?
No problems on my S 8.4. I also have Touchwiz Lollipop (5.0.1) on my Galaxy S4 with no problems. I read somewhere that the memory leak issue was only a problem on AOSP builds, not OEM (Samsung, HTC, etc) releases. I don't know if that's true. I'm 100% happy with Lollipop on my S 8.4.
all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.
Originally, I had a 2012 Nexus 7. After installing 5.0, it became unusable. I tried almost everything I read to no avail. Actually, it had started slowing down and having and having random app crashes b4 that, but it got much worse after installing 5.0
I gave up on it and bought the Tab 8.4, which I'm loving. Several weeks later, I went back to the Nexus 7 and used Wug's Toolkit to wipe and install 5.1.1. That has actually seemed to fix my issues with that tablet. Now I'm thinking perhaps I didn't need to get the Samsung, but oh well. I like the larger screen (I always said tablets should come in 8 inches, not 7), the rear camera, and the responsiveness. I'm keeping it!
Because of my negative experience with 5.0, I was hesitant to install this update. However, I installed it yesterday and so far (after 24 hours), it seems to be fine. I like being able to see my notifications on the lock screen again. It still appears to be snappy. It has not been long enough for me to judge battery time yet. So far it looks good.
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all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.
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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.
After the update it was all good with my tablet, smoth and fast.
Now it's getting worse, Nova launcher is always crashing, sometimes it reboots by itself, lag came back and some apps freeze...
I hope that Samsung release a new update.
Does the OTA update work with root installed?, I have the T800.
John.
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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.
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There's some apps/games that don't work on rooted devices so I had to keep it stock.
I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"
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I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"
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So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?
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So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?
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that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker
After three days I agree with HANSB57. However, my opinion is completely subjective. I have not measured anything.
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Unstable after OTA lollipop update on Samsung Tab S 8.4
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that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker
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I also experience frequent reboots using certain apps or even general Web browsing. I just restored to factory default so I will see if things improve. So far I've already experienced one crash after doing this. Hopefully a follow up update is in the works.
Well, I have the tablet for well a year and a half, and have loved it.
I have kept it stock and accepted all firmware updates blindly as I never had an issue with them, until the one I got a few days ago.
Ever since this most recent update the tablet has been running extremely hot, and battery life went from acceptable (several hours a day) down to less then 1 hour of run time since this update.
Of course I didn't note what version I was running before the update, but I can tell you what I am running now:
Android 4.4.2
Kernel 3.4.39-1462259
Build KOT49H.P600UEUCOI1
What is very odd is that I don't see anyone posting anything about recent updates to their SMP-600??? was I slow to get an older update? I keep set to auto and is always connected.
I did see a post about a cracked battery connector, and while I cant dismiss this may be the problem, the fact is that the overheating and battery life issues started immediately after this update and not after a drop or any other physical abuse that I would associate with a cracked batter connector. This thing lives on my sofa and never leaves.
Anywho, just looking to get any thoughts out there about this update? At this point I suppose I would like to roll it back to what it was previously.
Thoughts? do I just root it now and try a different firmware? or do I have to root to roll it back?
Hello,
has anyone got any idea why ZF2 would discharge instantly. It started happening when updated to MM beta. Then I thought it was MM bug, so I downgraded to LP with latest update, but still the same. Every other day at random the phone drains from 100-80% to dead in a couple of seconds. Used QuickCharge only a couple of times so that shouldn't be the cause of the problem. Also, the battery sometimes gets really really hot. I mean uncomfortably hot. Could it be the battery failing or is it that I just messed something up with the beta update..?
i dont think it is a battery problem ... must be the rom as it is beta version... why dont u try the downgrading part ...its somewhere in the threads afaik...
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Hello,
has anyone got any idea why ZF2 would discharge instantly. It started happening when updated to MM beta. Then I thought it was MM bug, so I downgraded to LP with latest update, but still the same. Every other day at random the phone drains from 100-80% to dead in a couple of seconds. Used QuickCharge only a couple of times so that shouldn't be the cause of the problem. Also, the battery sometimes gets really really hot. I mean uncomfortably hot. Could it be the battery failing or is it that I just messed something up with the beta update..?
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It could very well be a battery problem.
I had one that started to do a cutoff at 20%,which over the course of 3 weeks slowly increased to 35% at that moment I noticed a swelling of the phone, and a problem with the speaker.
I ordered replacement for both, and the problem was solved.
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i dont think it is a battery problem ... must be the rom as it is beta version... why dont u try the downgrading part ...its somewhere in the threads afaik...
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Yeah, as I've mentioned, I already have downgraded to Lollipop - no change.
Also, I've noticed that Quickcharge does not work anymore. Even though it shows it's quickcharging, it takes almost 3 hours to charge the battery, so something's definitely wrong.
Probably gonna try to flash the firmware again and if that does not work - will try to service it. Thank you for suggestions.
After upgrading to Nougat my battery is draining too fast due to system apps and chrome , does everyone experiencing the same or it's my device fault
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After upgrading to Nougat my battery is draining too fast due to system apps and chrome , does everyone experiencing the same or it's my device fault
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Same here, i think that this is a nougat problem.
Which software version do you have?
same here. after Nougat update ( and enabling Chrome which I never eneabled previously), few days ago i really noticed the battery drian really bad today. tested on 4.23.710.1 currently.
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same here. after Nougat update ( and enabling Chrome which I never eneabled previously), few days ago i really noticed the battery drian really bad today. tested on 4.23.710.1 currently.
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Vodafone au? If so then same here.
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Same here, i think that this is a nougat problem.
Which software version do you have?
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I'm having v 4.14.401.7
I don't know weather its just matter of time to adjust or a new update will be released to fix this , since nougat update my battery really sucks
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Vodafone au? If so then same here.
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Mine is Vodafone too, but from Italy. I have version 4.17.161.11.
My battery life has evened out to be kind of close to what I used to get but it's not as good as mm. I did do a factory reset and calibrated the battery and I'm now getting almost 3hrs of sot but it's about 30mins to 1hr less then before. I'm going to be putting my m9 in for a repair (hopefully free) to get my battery replaced before my warranty with Vodafone is up so if the battery does get replaced I'll do some tests to see if it's my battery or the update itself. If it's the update then I can light a fire under their butts to hopefully get Vodafone au and HTC to release a fix.
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My battery life has evened out to be kind of close to what I used to get but it's not as good as mm. I did do a factory reset and calibrated the battery and I'm now getting almost 3hrs of sot but it's about 30mins to 1hr less then before. I'm going to be putting my m9 in for a repair (hopefully free) to get my battery replaced before my warranty with Vodafone is up so if the battery does get replaced I'll do some tests to see if it's my battery or the update itself. If it's the update then I can light a fire under their butts to hopefully get Vodafone au and HTC to release a fix.
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its not the battery because my phone is brand new replacement already... its the Nougat update.. vodafone sucks. any work around?
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actually i remember when Lollipop came out same battery drain but after a week or so it somehow settled down..and battery normalized ...same thing?
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its not the battery because my phone is brand new replacement already... its the Nougat update.. vodafone sucks. any work around?
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actually i remember when Lollipop came out same battery drain but after a week or so it somehow settled down..and battery normalized ...same thing?
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Good to know and I don't know about any work around but just check what apps are sucking battery. I did delete the one gallery app or whatever it's called as it was using over 25% of battery usage. I'd recommend calibrating your battery to get the best out of your phone. (I drain my phone to 0% or as close as I can get then charge it up to 100% with the phone off, unplug then turn it on drain it close to 5% if I can then charge the phone like normal and that usually works for me) I'll still put my phone in as it always turns off at 15% battery left or around that and won't turn on so it thinks it's dead with no charge when it's got 15% left.
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My battery life has evened out to be kind of close to what I used to get but it's not as good as mm. I did do a factory reset and calibrated the battery and I'm now getting almost 3hrs of sot but it's about 30mins to 1hr less then before. I'm going to be putting my m9 in for a repair (hopefully free) to get my battery replaced before my warranty with Vodafone is up so if the battery does get replaced I'll do some tests to see if it's my battery or the update itself. If it's the update then I can light a fire under their butts to hopefully get Vodafone au and HTC to release a fix.
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Last year I used HTC m9 but I encountered mother board problem and sold it for cheap , last week I brought a new M9 I upgraded from jelly bean to lollipop in a single day and after 2 days I received an update for nougat , my battery is brand new and I'm also facing battery drain , I think it's due to update and I hope it will be fixed soon with in a week , all the best for ur replacement
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Last year I used HTC m9 but I encountered mother board problem and sold it for cheap , last week I brought a new M9 I upgraded from jelly bean to lollipop in a single day and after 2 days I received an update for nougat , my battery is brand new and I'm also facing battery drain , I think it's due to update and I hope it will be fixed soon with in a week , all the best for ur replacement
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I'll give Vodafone a heads up thanks for the info I might be able to get somewhere with them.
mine is ridiculous,received a brand new m9 a week ago from Vodafone as a replacement,upgraded to nougat 3 days ago,battery drains too quick,software is 4.17.161.11,I rooted it yesterday,took all bloatware off,changed thermal.engine in system/etc and still the same
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mine is ridiculous,received a brand new m9 a week ago from Vodafone as a replacement,upgraded to nougat 3 days ago,battery drains too quick,software is 4.17.161.11,I rooted it yesterday,took all bloatware off,changed thermal.engine in system/etc and still the same
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Rooting a brand new is a bad idea ?
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Rooting a brand new is a bad idea ?
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I'd have to disagree as no phone in the world new or old has the ability to say,it's okay,you can root me now,it s the right time lmao,imo it's the 1st thing you do when you get a phone lol
back on topic: underclocking seems to have helped a little but to early to tell,also removed google chrome as that was sucking the most power & I ain't even used it once
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I'd have to disagree as no phone in the world new or old has the ability to say,it's okay,you can root me now,it s the right time lmao,imo it's the 1st thing you do when you get a phone lol
back on topic: underclocking seems to have helped a little but to early to tell,also removed google chrome as that was sucking the most power & I ain't even used it once
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See u are having 32gb memory and more over rooting is done to optimize apps and battery usage , optimization can also be done by disabling factory apps , root is my choice to install new rom
my battery dran now is like watching water go down a sink hole. I can literally see the drain go by one percent at a time ....i already disabled alot of my usual apps. but "HTC dot view" keeps coming up and i cannot disable even though I didn't activate it? didnt have this problem in Marshmallow.
i didnt disable Chrome (to save battery) because it now (in Nougat) apparently handles what Android System Webview app used to do in Marshmallow. (OT ,TL;DR I got a blank screen issue for Google play app because of Android Webvoew app problems not being updated...only solved it by auto-updating all my entire apps then updating the Android webview app and then switching back to Chrome and updating Chrome, for it all to work in Nougat..ie..Keep Chrome or Android Webview updated seems is required , or you may get blank screen on some apps ).
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i didnt disable Chrome (to save battery) because it now (in Nougat) apparently handles what Android System Webview app used to do in Marshmallow. (OT ,TL;DR I got a blank screen issue for Google play app because of Android Webvoew app problems not being updated...only solved it by auto-updating all my entire apps then updating the Android webview app and then switching back to Chrome and updating Chrome, for it all to work in Nougat..ie..Keep Chrome or Android Webview updated seems is required , or you may get blank screen on some apps ).
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I deleted chrome from my phone and it's working just fine. There must have been some other issue with your phone.
And in regard to the battery drain: My phone's battery actually lasts longer than on MM. I only face a drain when I update Magisk from version 10.2 to 11.1. But I guess that info won't help you much since some of you are using a non-rooted stock rom...
Oh, and you better don't let your battery reach 0%. Lithium-ion batteries can get damaged by doing so. Android calibrates the battery automatically during the normal usage. And the memory effect only exists on Nickel–cadmium batteries so you don't have to fear losing capacity if you charge your M9 at higher percentages.
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I deleted chrome from my phone and it's working just fine. There must have been some other issue with your phone.
And in regard to the battery drain: My phone's battery actually lasts longer than on MM. I only face a drain when I update Magisk from version 10.2 to 11.1. But I guess that info won't help you much since some of you are using a non-rooted stock rom...
Oh, and you better don't let your battery reach 0%. Lithium-ion batteries can get damaged by doing so. Android calibrates the battery automatically during the normal usage. And the memory effect only exists on Nickel–cadmium batteries so you don't have to fear losing capacity if you charge your M9 at higher percentages.
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tks. I agree never let battery goto 0%. I never have either.
btw is your rom also vodafone Nougat? could be related to that rom?? , only because a few users here and I heard others seem to have same serious battery drain issue?
I had the "Blank app " issue when I updated to Nougat which (after gpogling and searching for a long while i found) some other Sony device users so had same blank google play app problem. The dev said that App System Webview had not been updated 'prior' to upgrading from Marshmallow to Nougat which caused thr problem.. apparently some bug in Nougat?. (I never updated Android webiew nor Chrome in marshmallow before). But after updating it, the blank screen on GooglePlay problem was rectified immediately...
apparently if you do disable Chrome, then Android System webview is automatically activated (for non rooted phones)? seems like we 'must' use one or the other now in Nougat stock?
TBH I just dont want to have the same ( really annoying) Google blank screen bug come back again..ya I could root this M9, my previous M9 was rooted, but after a 2nd replacement M9 , having had the previous one die suddenly, I decided keep this stock for the meantime.
Anyone know is there anyway Disable Dot View in stock Nougat? it keeps waking up. I think I recall I could disable it in settings Marshmallow? cant seem to do it in Nougat. Appreciate any advice.
Webview is needed for every app that has access to the internet, shows you data from the internet and isn't a browser (e.g. the play store). Therefore, it's always recommended to keep it up to date. On the one hand due to all the security fixes the updates contain and on the other hand due to all the bug fixes and compatibility fixes.
No, I'm using the European unbranded firmware and the latest venom rom which is based on the firmware I'm using. But there are more than enough reports about battery drain in that thread, too. The same applies to the Nougat OTA discussion thread in the General section. The strange thing is that no everyone is facing them even if those "lucky" users use the same firmware as those with the drain.
I can't help you with dot view since I have a dot view case and never tried to disable it on older firmware versions.