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I don't know if this topic has been bandied about on this forum. I've searched quite a bit and I haven't found anything. Is there any reason why MS has not released BT PAN on our stacks? I know the carriers have the ultimate say on methods used for tethering but not even the factory unlocked models have this wonderful feature. Wi-Fi tethering is nice and all, but it drains batteries like nobody's business, and if you're tethering to a tablet now you have two batteries dying a quick death. One of my favorite features of Windows Mobile after version 5 aku 3 was the internet sharing through either USB or BT. The speeds over BT were the same as any Wi-Fi tethering since it is the phone's same 3G signal anyway. Bluetooth tethering consumes a lot less power than Wi-Fi and with the PAN profile we also get the benefit of file transfer. ARGH!!!!! I hate having to carry an old POS WM6.5 device in my bag for the oft times I need to jack up my laptop when I'm out in the field. If anybody with any kind of influence with MS is reading, can you also throw in the MAP profile while you're at it? Please? Pretty please? With sugar......
This is an exact copy of the same thread that you posted at WPCentral, not enough answers over there for you?
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This is an exact copy of the same thread that you posted at WPCentral, not enough answers over there for you?
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What rock do you live under? I didn't discover warm water here fella, lots of people do this. Do you not hear the same news from umpteen different sources? If you only follow one forum you may be missing out on something.
Hey, fatclue, why do you think that WiFi drains the battery more than Bluetooth? "A lot less power"... Another Magpir user? Any proof: links, spreadsheets, specs, numbers? Or just "from my own WinMo experience"?
BTW, nobody will ever make these ROM modifications - nor manufacturers neither whitehats - 'cause nobody needs it (except you). So, just forget about it. "PLEEEEEEEASE" (even with huge characters!) will not help
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Hey, fatclue, why do you think that WiFi drains the battery more than Bluetooth? "A lot less power"... Another Magpir user? Any proof: links, spreadsheets, specs, numbers? Or just "from my own WinMo experience"?
BTW, nobody will ever make these ROM modifications - nor manufacturers neither whitehats - 'cause nobody needs it (except you). So, just forget about it. "PLEEEEEEEASE" (even with huge characters!) will not help
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Dude, come on. It is widely accepted that a BT radio consumes less power than a Wi-Fi radio. No, I don't have the back-up because it is widely accepted as much as anything else. Do you also need proof if someone tells you the speed of light is approximately 186,000 fps? You must also be one of those idiots that want to see Obama's birth certificate. BT PAN is a very useful profile and I'm not the only one who would prefer to have it. Search around other platforms and you'll see for yourself, or do you want me to do the work for you as well? Would you like links or do you prefer pictures so you don't have to actually read.
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Dude, come on. It is widely accepted that a BT radio consumes less power than a Wi-Fi radio. No, I don't have the back-up because it is widely accepted as much as anything else. Do you also need proof if someone tells you the speed of light is approximately 186,000 fps? You must also be one of those idiots that want to see Obama's birth certificate.
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Mmm... yeah dude. I need to see proof of that. I'm not saying you're lying but that doesn't sound right to me. You may want to check your facts before haranguing people on a forum.
You may have had a very good point here but it just got destroyed by an epic own goal.
Jus' sayin'
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Mmm... yeah dude. I need to see proof of that. I'm not saying you're lying but that doesn't sound right to me. You may want to check your facts before haranguing people on a forum.
You may have had a very good point here but it just got destroyed by an epic own goal.
Jus' sayin'
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My bad, miles per second not feet per second. In my line of work I'm used to feet/second. If you consider Colorado University a respectable enough source, read on.
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html
Why's everyone being so mean? Damn, its as simply as someone creating a rom capable of using it but having it turned off for those who don't use it. Its simple. No like anyone needs to get on his case.
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jaywillsoul said:
Why's everyone being so mean? Damn, its as simply as someone creating a rom capable of using it but having it turned off for those who don't use it. Its simple. No like anyone needs to get on his case.
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It's cool, sitizenx posted my partial post in big red bold letters and I realized my mistake and I owned up to it and clarified. I'm not perfect, only my teacher is (Jesus). I can't walk on water or turn water into wine, but I've been known to turn Mad Dog (MD 20/20 for the uninformed) into a chunky liquid, but that's another story.
Mad Dog? That's pretty ghetto.
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Enough off topic here. Double thread anyway. Thread closed.
In case you haven't noticed, the HTC One X has a WIFI issue. More details here: click me
Simply put, to get a better gauge of the problem, do you suffer from this "grip of life"?
not yet but I only got it for 4 wks, supposedly it can take around 6-8wks before the problems become apparent
I have two Tegra HOXs. Neither has the WiFi issue (yet?).
One I've had since May 2. The other since June 1. The original phone does have f***ed GPS though.
Can't vote in poll using Tapatalk...
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The wifi signal dropped down suddenly today after 2 months of use. Sent to service center today. Waiting.....
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I had the problem after about 8 weeks,sent my unlocked bootloader hox to the repair centre last week and received it yesterday morning fixed
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I do not have the issue, clicked yes by mistake. Didn't read properly, sorry. Have a SH model.
Keep in mind that with 1K votes 70% of people deem their device as "perfect." For that to be true I'd assume working Wi-Fi was part of their judging criteria. A lot of people have stopped participating in the forum because of all the emotionalism so I'd imagine this poll will be skewed toward the complainers. I've stopped contributing because it gets tedious slogging through all the "OMG! can you believe it!" posts that repeat incessantly driven by the vocal minority.
After a month of having no problems at all with my hox the wifi signal got worser by the day. I can only get a proper signal by squeezing it
HTC is picking it up for repairs tomorrow
Mine is a HT23 with CID: HTC__001 so it's the generic unbranded model. It was perfect until about a week ago, when I got the sudden overheating problem, since then the WiFi is fooked. Across my apartment where I used to have full signal (obviously), now only the bottom dot is lit up on the signal meter and while it doesn't drop the connection, it's noticeably slower than before. Of course the 'grip' works, the signal does improve a lot while I'm squeezing the screen.
Not a happy camper let me tell y'all.
I could send it back for repair, but now that the problem is acknowledged there will be thousands of devices sent back and it will be weeks (if not months) before I get it back which I'm not at all happy with and not willing to accept. (Not to mention it'll come back with the newest firmware, and I was deliberately holding off the updates until the S-OFF guys say it's safe to upgrade, I'm still on 1.26 with hboot 0.43.) If they said it's one week I'd probably say OK but looking at 2-3 or more, I think I'll just open it up and fix it myself.
I'll stop short of saying 'this is my last HTC' or things like that, but after spending 2 years with the Desire absolutely problem free, the apparent shortcomings of quality control on the HOX did get me thinking.
Having the problem, too.. Will send it in few days to HTC Repair Center...
BarryH_GEG said:
Keep in mind that with 1K votes 70% of people deem their device as "perfect." For that to be true I'd assume working Wi-Fi was part of their judging criteria. A lot of people have stopped participating in the forum because of all the emotionalism so I'd imagine this poll will be skewed toward the complainers. I've stopped contributing because it gets tedious slogging through all the "OMG! can you believe it!" posts that repeat incessantly driven by the vocal minority.
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I wonder how many of those who said "no defect" early on in their ownership of the phone would vote the same way today.
I said "no defects" in that particular poll, but then after voting learned my GPS had gone bad (or was bad all along and hadn't noticed it). I'd go back and change my answer, but it won't let me.
That said, I agree, most of the folks without issues stay away from forums, so you always get a bit of bias towards the negative in these types of discussion.
Fault developed last week on my Tegra 3 One X in the UK. Phone being sent for repair.
I use wifi of my One X (ht23) most of the day for two months and I never had any problem. Fast and stable.
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I wonder how many of those who said "no defect" early on in their ownership of the phone would vote the same way today.
I said "no defects" in that particular poll, but then after voting learned my GPS had gone bad (or was bad all along and hadn't noticed it). I'd go back and change my answer, but it won't let me.
That said, I agree, most of the folks without issues stay away from forums, so you always get a bit of bias towards the negative in these types of discussion.
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Totally agree... I also voted "no defect"... Ive had a replacement and my second HOX is at repair as we speak "WiFi" so +1 id also go back and change my answer!
Mine's being sent back this week, Tegra 3 One X, has been fine in first month of ownership (it's a replacement itself anyway) but the wifi has been really crappy for the last couple of weeks. Have installed a new dual band router and moved it twice trying to improve the reception upstairs in my house thinking the problem was there, ha, foo', it's the One.
I've got no pirated software or root stuff on my device, it's stock, but am not looking forward to setting it all up again. Do they wipe it or just threaten that to exclude modders from warranty repairs?
These kind of polls aren't representative and thereby useless. First of all, XDA members are way more tech savvy than the average customer, meaning that the slightest defect or imperfection gets noticed, resulting in a more than average number of defects or problems. Second and more important, if you have this problem and you notice it, you go searching online and you end up in on of these threads. There you click on the poll and the results of the poll are completely overestimating the problem, because people who don't have these problems are far less likely to vote or to even visit these forums and topics.
So to say it again: these kind of polls are useless!
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These kind of polls aren't representative and thereby useless. First of all, XDA members are way more tech savvy than the average customer, meaning that the slightest defect or imperfection gets noticed, resulting in a more than average number of defects or problems. Second and more important, if you have this problem and you notice it, you go searching online and you end up in on of these threads. There you click on the poll and the results of the poll are completely overestimating the problem, because people who don't have these problems are far less likely to vote or to even visit these forums and topics.
So to say it again: these kind of polls are useless!
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If they're useless, then why do you bother even opening the thread, let alone taking the time to lecture people on why they're useless?
Sure, these polls are skewed, but they help someone determine if it's "just me" or a commonly shared problem. That's useful information for people, even if the actual percentage of defects is in the general population is wrong.
Let the people who want to do these polls have their fun. How does it harm you or anyone else?
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If they're useless, then why do you bother even opening the thread, let alone taking the time to lecture people on why they're useless?
Sure, these polls are skewed, but they help someone determine if it's "just me" or a commonly shared problem. That's useful information for people, even if the actual percentage of defects is in the general population is wrong.
Let the people who want to do these polls have their fun. How does it harm you or anyone else?
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Judging by the number of topics and posts about the WiFi problem, people can already find out that they're not alone with their problem. I know how frustrating that can be, I had to send my phone back for repair twice. But these kind of topics serve little purpose.
wph said:
Judging by the number of topics and posts about the WiFi problem, people can already find out that they're not alone with their problem. I know how frustrating that can be, I had to send my phone back for repair twice. But these kind of topics serve little purpose.
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And exactly what purpose do your multiple posts saying these topics serve little purpose serve? Do you really think they're going to get people to stop? If they're out of line, let the moderators handle it.
Again, if you think they're pointless, skip 'em, ignore 'em, move on...
If you don't like seeing them in the thread listings, head over to the xda general section and chime in on my ages old thread suggesting that we be allowed to "ignore thread" the same way can "ignore user".
Cheers.
2 months. No problem. Wifi performance and range better than my former iPhone 4
I have searched the forum for GPS accuracy and GPS fix time, but I still miss a respons on how well constructed this device is.
My A100 is not rooted.
The problem is that the GPS acts unreliable with slow or no fix time.
The TTFF (Time to first fix) changed for the better after i made a cold fix from scrach and within the 15 minutes I had a better signal faster.
But still not reliable. It seems like the almanac and ephemeris data is loaded but is it lost when the A100 reboots?!
I have no clue
Since this device doesn't support 3G the A-GPS is not assisted by the 3G network.
Is the GPS in the A101 more reliable and faster because it have 3G support?
But I still don't know what the expect?
Why this is important to me? Acer have not delivered any usefull answers. And I want to know what to expect. No test or reviews are useful enough to answer my question. I tried Cnet and I got aware of this forum.
:fingers-crossed:
Cold-start TTFF: < 50sec
Just made a discovery
In the service guide (You'll find the link in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297422&page=2) the cold-start TTFF in said to be less than 50 seconds.
I guess it puts my problems in perspective :highfive:
Unless we forget
I get this **** now:
•To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages.
After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!
No! I don't understand! Prevent spam?! I use the Image Verification already.
And now I have to collect 10 stamps to open a treassure chest?!
I'm a good guy and you prevent me from continuing my righteous path to a knights's kingdom :cyclops:
So here are my links without.... ohh whatever...
I made another post in the Acer Tablet Forum (Post #17):
Ooop, "this guy hasn't posted 10 posts yet"
And this is made by some other guy:
Ohh, yeeah, sorry...
It's the same Broadcom GPS receiver
Guess what!...
:highfive:
So I guess I will continue my search
Bro root that thing and come to the dark side. This is with cm10 sitting on my deck. Locks instantaneously.
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There will be root(beer)
Thanks. I like your answer :highfive:
Give me some time then I will return with some answers regarding if there is a warranty claim on my unit or not.
I will look into the rooting business by then. Hopefully the coming week.
My patience has been drawn to the limit.
There is no limit to what excuses a retail store clerk has to why he hasn't returned my calls. It's a definately maybe.
"Join the force, Luke!"
"I will look into the force"
In the meantime: "Call me Luke, Cowboy!"
I can't be the only one who's noticed that there's a bunch of people on this forum, who for whatever reason seem to be on some kind of campaign. These people are insisting that Note 7 owners must power them off and return them and they take every opportunity to say that the phone is a huge danger and that no only must all handsets be returned, but that the networks and Samsung must block the devices. It goes far beyond the occasional post and the odd comment. It's repeated, vitriolic, aggressive, confrontational and dogmatic.
Fine upstanding citizens these people may be and perhaps they are so motivated to ensure the safety of their fellow humans. But I seriously doubt that. I doubt most of them surely don't care a damn about the safety of other phone users. So what's driving this campaign of vitriol? Why are these people not simply making their point and moving on? Is it because they have surrendered their devices and don't like others still enjoying their Note 7's? is it because they are somehow feeling inadequate and feel the need to demonstrate their superiority?
I can't remember circumstances before where so many self-rightous, sanctimonious vigilantes have sprung up who seem hell bent on TELLING others what they must do.
I'd like to say to all of them, what people do with their own Note 7's is a matter entirely for them, their supplier and their mobile operator. That's it. Beyond that, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
For those with eyes. IRIS = SIRI, reverse engineering.
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On a serious Note, yes there are moles on here. Think different? Think for yourself! If you want to keep your Note 7, then do it! The only "proof" that there ever was a fault was through the media. Remember, the media is not your friend!
Happy to still keep using mine (is slated for swap out to S7E which is not the phone I forked out $1350 for, that is for sure!)
My phone survived a huge cooking with the Oculus dodgy update, so I feel it is one of the good ones
I know some users here who definitely match your discussed behaviour though!
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I was actually thinking of making a thread exactly like this.
I, too, have noticed this. I truly think they are former Note 7 owners who wish they'd kept their devices. They know they made the wrong choice giving it up, and are now stuck using a device that has half the features. And as they stare at their crappy phone, they fill with rage that other people still have Note 7s and are enjoying them to the fullest.
Nobody is taking my Note 7 away from me, that's for sure. This device is so far ahead of everything else. It's better than 90% of 2017's devices will be.
I had the exact same thoughts as well. Very unlike XDA forum members, who are in general all about doing whatever they want with their devices, regardless of who says what.
I will be returning mine for a refund at the latest possible moment, since unfortunately the idea of keeping it indefinitely with no future updates and no Oculus support, doesn't work for me.
But it's kind of irrelevant what I will be doing with mine. The point is, it's entirely up to me and I am sick and tired of people who I don't know, nor care to know, telling me THEY know better.
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I was actually thinking of making a thread exactly like this.
I, too, have noticed this. I truly think they are former Note 7 owners who wish they'd kept their devices. They know they made the wrong choice giving it up, and are now stuck using a device that has half the features. And as they stare at their crappy phone, they fill with rage that other people still have Note 7s and are enjoying them to the fullest.
Nobody is taking my Note 7 away from me, that's for sure. This device is so far ahead of everything else. It's better than 90% of 2017's devices will be.
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I don't miss mine one bit. Care to keep generalizing? Maybe we just don't want our aircraft cabins filled with toxic fumes from smoldering batteries, as UNLIKELY as an event that may be. I for one don't mind people keeping their N7's. Do what you will. I do find it comical that people with small children in the home are hardcore defending keeping the device, however. Even though the slightest possibility of a device going up in smoke is slim to none, the safety of my family comes first. No amount of iris scanners and expandable storage can make up for a potential fire hazard in the home.
this forum is about people interesred in this device, I got my replacement, and I am happy with it, besides my carrier will keep a one year warranty, so, it is a good deal for me, in my country there is no mandatory recall, so, they can not force anybody to surrender the phone, also by no means , they wont block/deactivate remotely, as it woul be considered against your consumer rights, I started a thread about over sensitive s pen, and only thing I got was "get rid of your note7" in my opinion, this kind of replies defeat the entire purpose of this portal, that is helping and improving, there are lots of people keeping their note7, so, whoever returned, or backed from a note 7, should show some respect to those keeping it
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I don't miss mine one bit. Care to keep generalizing? Maybe we just don't want our aircraft cabins filled with toxic fumes from smoldering batteries, as UNLIKELY as an event that may be. I for one don't mind people keeping their N7's. Do what you will. I do find it comical that people with small children in the home are hardcore defending keeping the device, however. Even though the slightest possibility of a device going up in smoke is slim to none, the safety of my family comes first. No amount of iris scanners and expandable storage can make up for a potential fire hazard in the home.
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winol said:
this forum is about people interesred in this device, I got my replacement, and I am happy with it, besides my carrier will keep a one year warranty, so, it is a good deal for me, in my country there is no mandatory recall, so, they can not force anybody to surrender the phone, also by no means , they wont block/deactivate remotely, as it woul be considered against your consumer rights, I started a thread about over sensitive s pen, and only thing I got was "get rid of your note7" in my opinion, this kind of replies defeat the entire purpose of this portal, that is helping and improving, there are lots of people keeping their note7, so, whoever returned, or backed from a note 7, should show some respect to those keeping it
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What country are you in out of interest. I'm in the UK and I'm not entirely sure if it's voluntary or mandatory. Also if it is voluntary then we may still get some updates which at the very least means security patches. I hope.
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It is evident on other Android Forums too, I got "Warnings" and had my Posts outright Deleted when I posted this link:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32960624/iphone-7-catches-fire-destroys-vehicle/#page1
(Strange how the reporter's name is Niamh)
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andoxviii said:
I was actually thinking of making a thread exactly like this.
I, too, have noticed this. I truly think they are former Note 7 owners who wish they'd kept their devices. They know they made the wrong choice giving it up, and are now stuck using a device that has half the features. And as they stare at their crappy phone, they fill with rage that other people still have Note 7s and are enjoying them to the fullest.
Nobody is taking my Note 7 away from me, that's for sure. This device is so far ahead of everything else. It's better than 90% of 2017's devices will be.
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I agree. I was actually an unfortunate Pre-ordered Note 7 customer who never got theirs in time due to the recall and have even posted asking if anyone who has one instead of returning it I would buy it from them. It was ignored by a moderator who in turn replied to the previous poster asking if they had received their 'fireproof' return shipping box.
Either these are shills or are just hypnotized by the recent mass media campaign and genuinely believe the Note 7's are dangerous. Yet you need to question that when you post clear evidence that even today's news is showing iPhones exploding and destroying cars.
People are either brainwashed or are working undercover counter intelligence
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I can't be the only one who's noticed that there's a bunch of people on this forum, who for whatever reason seem to be on some kind of campaign. These people are insisting that Note 7 owners must power them off and return them and they take every opportunity to say that the phone is a huge danger and that no only must all handsets be returned, but that the networks and Samsung must block the devices. It goes far beyond the occasional post and the odd comment. It's repeated, vitriolic, aggressive, confrontational and dogmatic.
Fine upstanding citizens these people may be and perhaps they are so motivated to ensure the safety of their fellow humans. But I seriously doubt that. I doubt most of them surely don't care a damn about the safety of other phone users. So what's driving this campaign of vitriol? Why are these people not simply making their point and moving on? Is it because they have surrendered their devices and don't like others still enjoying their Note 7's? is it because they are somehow feeling inadequate and feel the need to demonstrate their superiority?
I can't remember circumstances before where so many self-rightous, sanctimonious vigilantes have sprung up who seem hell bent on TELLING others what they must do.
I'd like to say to all of them, what people do with their own Note 7's is a matter entirely for them, their supplier and their mobile operator. That's it. Beyond that, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
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Samsung is also one of these people who keep telling to give back your phone... weird...
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I don't miss mine one bit. Care to keep generalizing? Maybe we just don't want our aircraft cabins filled with toxic fumes from smoldering batteries, as UNLIKELY as an event that may be. I for one don't mind people keeping their N7's. Do what you will. I do find it comical that people with small children in the home are hardcore defending keeping the device, however. Even though the slightest possibility of a device going up in smoke is slim to none, the safety of my family comes first. No amount of iris scanners and expandable storage can make up for a potential fire hazard in the home.
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I don't plan on taking my personal phone (Note 7 w8) into an airplane. I plan on using my work iPhone for that.
Nor do I have children.
And if all you see is an iris scanner and expandable storage when you look at the Note 7, then this device isn't for you anyways.
Check out the Samsung.com website of your country. To see if the recall is voluntary or mandatory. All sites will ask you to power down and exchange for another Galaxy model ?
?hardcore signatures?
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I've not posted in the various other threads on this topic but to the starter of this thread, how would you feel if someone posted pretty much what you said but instead of talking about the note 7 it was talking about drinking and driving?
Many of us live in societies with incredible levels of self entitlement. People believing that they are special and rules don't apply to them. It's not really about YOUR safety it's about the safety of people around you. That is the real issue. While some of the people who are keeping their phones may never take it outside their house I don't for a second believe that none of them will take them on planes, subways, etc. Just like drinking and driving you may get away with it for a very long time but it only takes one time to change your life forever. In order to keep a note 7 as normal it requires you to actively circumvent updates from Samsung. If something goes wrong and someone dies there will be no "I didn't realize" defense. You absolutely will be going to jail.
As for myself I surrendered my note 7 yesterday. I was sad to see such a great phone go to waste but I have no regrets. I respect my safety and that of others around me too much to take a risk. I fly frequently and don't need any headaches like this.
I don't for a second think that Samusung is taking this **** kicking, both financially and to their reputation for fun. I think it's wise to heed their advice and replace the phone.
Wooba99 said:
I've not posted in the various other threads on this topic but to the starter of this thread, how would you feel if someone posted pretty much what you said but instead of talking about the note 7 it was talking about drinking and driving?
Many of us live in societies with incredible levels of self entitlement. People believing that they are special and rules don't apply to them. It's not really about YOUR safety it's about the safety of people around you. That is the real issue. While some of the people who are keeping their phones may never take it outside their house I don't for a second believe that none of them will take them on planes, subways, etc. Just like drinking and driving you may get away with it for a very long time but it only takes one time to change your life forever. In order to keep a note 7 as normal it requires you to actively circumvent updates from Samsung. If something goes wrong and someone dies there will be no "I didn't realize" defense. You absolutely will be going to jail.
As for myself I surrendered my note 7 yesterday. I was sad to see such a great phone go to waste but I have no regrets. I respect my safety and that of others around me too much to take a risk. I fly frequently and don't need any headaches like this.
I don't for a second think that Samusung is taking this **** kicking, both financially and to their reputation for fun. I think it's wise to heed their advice and replace the phone.
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Great - good for you. No need to repeat it any more.
CerveCesar said:
Check out the Samsung.com website of your country. To see if the recall is voluntary or mandatory. All sites will ask you to power down and exchange for another Galaxy model
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As you say. Ask.
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Great - good for you. No need to repeat it any more.
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Not planning too. I know it's a waste of time trying to convince people so I don't try. You asked a question, I answered it.
And you never answered my question.
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Not planning too. I know it's a waste of time trying to convince people so I don't try. You asked a question, I answered it.
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Thanks.
EDIT: Sorry I missed your question. The answer is, the two are not comparable. Drinking and driving is proven to be extremely dangerous. Note 7's are proven to be pretty safe. The issue is that they are not as safe as some people would like, but to compare the levels of risk to that of driving a car whilst drunk, is misleading.
There's already a flight ban in place and people I would imagine are sensible enough to respect that. I know I would. And regards the public safety risk more generally, NO-ONE has suffered serious injury and there have been no deaths out of 4 million units shipped. Worst case, the device is going to catch fire and guess what - people will put it out. The idea that automatically when a phone catches fire then some kind of apocalypse occurs, is also misleading. These are fundamentally fairly safe devices. Samsung however necessarily look at it down the other end of the telescope since they are responsible for all 4 million devices and whereas the chance of you or I having an issue with our phone is very very low, the chances of Samsung having an issue with one of the 4 million of their phones, is very very high. That's why they needed to cancel the phone, not because any one phone is intrinsically dangerous - it is not.
I am of the belief that some, not all, of the owners who returned their Note 7's would be better served with an iPhone anyways. Those are the one's that take a shine toward being dominated in every aspect of their lives.
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**** ... Sony , on Z3 was possible maybe with too sw3
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Worrying about warranty on a device that has reached EOL? smh
sovanyio said:
Worrying about warranty on a device that has reached EOL? smh
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The warranty is from the date of purchase. So if someone bought it a month ago, they still have a valid warranty for another year.
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The warranty is from the date of purchase. So if someone bought it a month ago, they still have a valid warranty for another year.
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Warranty 1 or 2 years?
Sony ask me , the accessories device have warrantys 1 years
kiki059 said:
Warranty 1 or 2 years?
Sony ask me , the accessories device have warrantys 1 years
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Depending on laws in country of purchase. In our country is 24 months warranty for every product and all accesories packed in.
So this is the additional thread I had suggested for discussing all the topics that clutter the official "Android Wear 2.0 for SmartWatch 3 port progress" thread.
This thread is meant to discuss any topic accompanying the AW2.0 port for Sony SW3 so that the main development thread doesn´t get cluttered as it was in the past. I hope people use this thread and keep the development thread clean.
Examples for discussions are:
Wild discussions about ETA
Discussions about what the port means for warranties
Discussions about future battery life of SW3
And many more topics (above are only examples of what´s possible
Any active developer on the main thread may jump in here and comment on any discussion.
Please be nice to each other. No insulting, flaming, trolling...
It would be great if we could all behave like adults (or at least pretend to do so ).
The progress thread for the port can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/android-wear-2-0-smartwatch-3-port-t3562129
So, I held off adding off topic stuff to the main thread for AW2.0 on Sony SW3.
I bought my SW3 maybe a month ago, because even after 2-3 years, it still looked as if it were the best option compared to my beloved Pebbles.
My Pebble time steel got replaced in the middle of last year when its battery died (actually, the battery got hot to a degree that I would probably have gotten burns from it). Once I saw a post of someone in the Pebble forums who had worn his time steel while sleeping and who got a big huge burn blister on his arm, I stopped wearing mine and was looking for a new watch.
Long story short (I could go on if you want to read it though....):
I looked into the Vector watches, but they were bought by Fitbit, too, so I´ve checked Android wear once again. I had a Moto 1. Gen once, but the battery didn´t even keep up for one work day.
With Sony SW3 being at about 2 days battery life, I decided on it, knowing that it may not get AW2.0.
I don´t regret buying it, even if AW2.0 doesn´t make it on my watch for whatever reason.
I just wondered if anyone followed up on older watches running AW2.0 previews and who can shed some light what it could mean for battery life.
I´d be ok if my watch battery doesn´t last as long as it does now (almost 3 days), but I would want 2 days at least. This gives me a nice time frame with enough left over power so that I don´t have to worry that the watch could die before day´s end.
I want my watch to show the time first (and I love the reflective always on display) and my notifications. The rest for me is nice to have, but I don´t need it. The "little" Google watch seems nice, but at 240mAh, first reviews indicate that it won´t be better than my first Moto 1.
And a watch needs to be a watch. Means for me that I don´t want to make calls on it and that it needs to be way smaller than a brick.
Thanks, that is really good idea, other thread was really getting derailed every 5 minutes. I hope mods will declutter that thread and move all offending posts here.
According to reddit, last 2.0 developer previews did not cause any significant battery duration changes compared to 1.x versions. But on the other hand, both LG watches (only watches that run final 2.0 at the moment), experience wildly inconsistent battery life (some say it is very good, some say it really sucks).
Regarding warranties, you can still lock back the bootloader in the end and hope that they don't notice you tinkered with it. I'm not sure whether there even is permanent switch that shows bootloader has ever been unlocked, so I think everyone will be fine. The alternative is being stuck with an old dead OS, so IMO benefits outweigh warranty. Plus quality control on Sonys seem to be pretty good (There are usually a lot of posts about people complaining that their watch/phone/laptop/whatever has broken, but I have not seen any for SW3), so there is less chance you will need warranty.
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Regarding warranties, you can still lock back the bootloader in the end and hope that they don't notice you tinkered with it. I'm not sure whether there even is permanent switch that shows bootloader has ever been unlocked, so I think everyone will be fine. The alternative is being stuck with an old dead OS, so IMO benefits outweigh warranty. Plus quality control on Sonys seem to be pretty good (There are usually a lot of posts about people complaining that their watch/phone/laptop/whatever has broken, but I have not seen any for SW3), so there is less chance you will need warranty.
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Yup, like I had posted before. I want the new firmware, but don´t care about warranty too much (unless the watch would break within a couple of months). Before smartwatches, I bought a new watch about every 1-2 years anyways. In terms of price, I think they were around 120 bucks in average. So not really as expensive as a smartwatch. I like having options and when I feel the watch gets old or I want to have something new, I usually go for it. Same with my glasses which usually run around 500-1000 every 2 years, depending on the frame I choose. But glasses alone (without the frame) usually cost about 300-400. I don´t spend too much on other stuff (dining, clothes, cars), so getting some gadgets every now and then doesn´t break the bank. But it´s a matter of what´s important to you. Electronic stores today try to sell additional insurances, but I actually had never a gadget break on its own
If it broke, it was usually my fault and mostly I handle my toys carefully.
So back to the battery. If the watch lasts 2-3 days like it does now, I´m more than happy and I still think it´s the best compromise in terms of size, features and battery. Pebble was great as long as it lasted, but I couldn´t read the display with my glasses off.
For that I used the ttmm watchfaces, and I made a similar one on Facer, and I can read SW3 with this watchface better when I wake up at night as compared to the smaller size screen on Pebble.
Uuuh. I have to keep my posts shorter But then again, this is why I made this thread, right?
Haha, now I was really confused. A mod must have moved comments from the dev thread to here, but the posts are right on top of everything else. If any mod is reading this, is it possible that posts that were moved are at least below the initial thread post, so that people know what this thread is about? Thanks.
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Haha, now I was really confused. A mod must have moved comments from the dev thread to here, but the posts are right on top of everything else. If any mod is reading this, is it possible that posts that were moved are at least below the initial thread post, so that people know what this thread is about? Thanks.
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It'll be the timestamps of the posts that cause this issue, your thread was created as a reaction to the off topic posts so when they're moved it screwed it up
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It'll be the timestamps of the posts that cause this issue, your thread was created as a reaction to the off topic posts so when they're moved it screwed it up
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Duh. That´s bad.
Well well. Then I guess that it is like it is
Okay I've told once about the TA partition thingy and I found some things out
At first:
It knows which firmware you flashed when, so they also get if you reflashed your FW to another version
Again every TA is unique as every SmartWatch and uses a SerialKey (same of your device)
Then the really bad thing: It knows when you unlocked the bootloader and that detailed
And idk if it's result of UB but the most of the TA partition is just written full of FF and 00 so no real DRM keys
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Okay I've told once about the TA partition thingy and I found some things out
At first:
It knows which firmware you flashed when, so they also get if you reflashed your FW to another version
Again every TA is unique as every SmartWatch and uses a SerialKey (same of your device)
Then the really bad thing: It knows when you unlocked the bootloader and that detailed
And idk if it's result of UB but the most of the TA partition is just written full of FF and 00 so no real DRM keys
Your PDesire
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Then the warranty is fully void if we unlock the bootloader
If a community rom would support stuff like custom roms on phones? Especially like functions that usually don´t come in regular stock roms. I think of something like automating flight and screen mode based on time of day.
With the 2-3 day battery, I like using my watch as my first alarm clock to wake me gently before my real alarm clock goes off, so I´m wearing it during the night, but I don´t need the screen on or notifications during the night. And it preserves battery.
E.g. on my phone, I love using the volume rocker to skip music while the screen is off. Or maybe adjust vibration settings. Stock just isn´t strong enough, so I use a separate app to have the watch shake 3 times instead of only once. But this only works for phone app notifications.
Functionality with iPhone
I would like to use my sw3 as a run tracker paired with an iPhone. There currently doesn't seem to be a way to use the GPS when paired with an iPhone. It looks like there will be some increased functionality for iOS users in aw2 but does anyone know of a way to load a running app like Runkeeper to sw3 with aw 1.x? Thanks in advance.
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I would like to use my sw3 as a run tracker paired with an iPhone. There currently doesn't seem to be a way to use the GPS when paired with an iPhone. It looks like there will be some increased functionality for iOS users in aw2 but does anyone know of a way to load a running app like Runkeeper to sw3 with aw 1.x? Thanks in advance.
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You can install the app from ADB.
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I have a question about theatre mode , whenever I enable it , the screen goes off for a few seconds and comes back to an always on display mode , but rest is same , unless I press the side button it won't wake up ....
Is this regular or is it a bug ?
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I have a question about theatre mode , whenever I enable it , the screen goes off for a few seconds and comes back to an always on display mode , but rest is same , unless I press the side button it won't wake up ....
Is this regular or is it a bug ? [/QUOTE]
This has always been the case as far as I know.
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Mikegrmn said:
If a community rom would support stuff like custom roms on phones? Especially like functions that usually don´t come in regular stock roms. I think of something like automating flight and screen mode based on time of day.
With the 2-3 day battery, I like using my watch as my first alarm clock to wake me gently before my real alarm clock goes off, so I´m wearing it during the night, but I don´t need the screen on or notifications during the night. And it preserves battery.
E.g. on my phone, I love using the volume rocker to skip music while the screen is off. Or maybe adjust vibration settings. Stock just isn´t strong enough, so I use a separate app to have the watch shake 3 times instead of only once. But this only works for phone app notifications.
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You could look into tasker or similar apps. The problem is, those apps may use more battery power than leaving the watch as normal. However, they should be able to control the settings for you. You may need root to do so as well.
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