Widget 'Locality' - where does the value come from? - Zooper Widget General

Hello,
I have a widget that I run on all my Android devices, and it uses the 'Locality' value to display where I am ....
I have just upgraded my phone to Nougat 7.1.1 ... and instead of giving a quite local 'locality' (name of an area/locale/town) - I am now getting the equivalent of a state..... which is not that much use.
Undoubtedly this is something that the phone is mis-publishing through an API somewhere ... but I would like to be able to report more precisely the problem back to the manufacturers devs.
Thanks for any light that you can shed....

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Feedback of Android 2.0.1 on Fuze

Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
gaurav12 said:
Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
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Well of course this has many bugs cuz this is not a native android device, also u should credit the develepors for their hard work this isnt really easy at all, also over the past months it has been improving greatly, and since u want to remove android from ur phone unfortunatley, all u must do is remove the android realated files like haret or android apps.
gaurav12 said:
Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
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- People get 15 hours + of battery, so considering that it is a work in progress, that's very good.
- The light is a debugging thing, it means that your phone is in deep sleep (that's good) it's a LED light and barely makes any difference on battery life and you CAN turn it off if you want to, read the main thread.
- No, no such option for now, but as i said it's a work in progress for now.
- That's not even related to the port, that's just how Android is.
- No need to remove the battery, you can just press the reset hole.
- Yes, just the files from the SD card, nothing is saved on the phone's memory.
Why don't you learn to read a thread before installing a non native OS onto a phone. All the points you brought up were or are bugs that are known. If you don't like it get it off your phone and be done with it. No need to start another thread only to rehash what is already known.
gaurav12 said:
Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
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I am in the same boat with you. I just keep updating it. It used to be pretty good Battery and stuff but the newer updates just aren't as efficient. I'll keep updating mine untill I get the money to just buy the damn NEXUS ONE since now they have an AT&T version that supports 3G
The original threads warned that Android on your WinMo device is merely proof of concept and experiment and was in no way meant to replace WinMo as your full time operating system on your device. I think the developers have made fantastic strides in the performance of Android on the FUZE given that they have managed to put an OS on a device that does not support it with neither hardware or software. And maybe it's just me, but if you have the right ROM WinMo 6.1 can be pretty fast (I haven't had such luck with WinMo 6.5, but I like 6.1 anyway)
Android has worse battery life than WinMo. I tried both Android devices on Sprint and even Android 1.5 is a hog. My neighbor just purchased the latest Android device Verizon released on Thursday and he is complaining of charging at 3PM everyday.
I've read all the threads and come to release Android on our devices is merely experimental. If you think its going to work flawlessly then you're not that bright. If I really need an Android device then I'll buy one. In fact I may try the EVO under the 30 day trial just for fun. I am interested in 720p / HDMI video recording, video call and other new features.
For everyone reading this post you know this guy only joined to complain or discurruge people from using it. Member with only 1 post trying to review software that was neer made to run on a specific hardware. Only a idiot would consider his words useful. Basically all he did was complain so that he could ask a question and get people to answer him without searching.

[Q] How Does the Android OS Work?

Disclaimer: I am only a flasher. I do, however, contribute to the forums, donate to devs and also use the paid version of good apps.
My question is: How does Android work on our phones?
You have hardware (HTC Incredible); you have a carrier (Verizon, in my case); you have an OS (Android, obviously); you have a radio; you have a ROM; you have a kernel; you have themes, you have skins and you have apps. How do all these pieces interact? Just curious.
This is a really good question that should be answered in laymen's terms. I'm surprised it hasn't been answered yet.
I also thought it would have been answered by now. However, I think the developers (who would be the best folks to answer this question) are busy working with the Gingerbread source code to build new ROMs for us.
This is what I have figured out so far but I'm not sure if my analysis is correct:
After selecting your hardware and carrier, the OS is the most important element. Most of us are currently on Froyo (2.2). I have seen some screen shots showing the OS version to be "2.2.1" but I am not sure why. Google (I think) has released the source code for Gingerbread (2.3) and the developers ("devs") are hard at work producing new ROMs as I post this.
I gather that it is best to stay away from trying out different radios ("basebands"). Most of us are using 2.15.00.07.28.
I think the ROM takes the OS and re-works the user interface by adding, removing and changing the various screens and "features" of the OS. For example: the ROM can be written to take out the stock music player and substitute a music player that the ROM developer prefers. I think this is called "baking in an app". I believe the ROM developer can also create an overall "look and feel" that can be quite different from the stock OS. For instance, the ROM can be "colored" in black and red (rather than the stock green) and the stock font can be changed to something the developer prefers. In other words, the ROM is what you see and use on a daily basis.
Now this is where things get a little fuzzy: the kernel. I think this is kind of a behind the scenes element that governs the performance of a ROM. It greatly affects things like battery life, time to charge the battery and the "speed" of the phone. The kernel is where the phone can be "over-clocked" and "under-volted" should you want to do those things. I gather that once you select a ROM, you can try different kernels without changing what the various screens look like on the phone. I believe this is the way most people do it (pick a ROM and try different kernels with it). I don't think the other way really works (pick a kernel and try different ROMs with the kernel).
Next comes themes and skins which really only affect what you see on the various screens without do anything about battery life or the speed of the phone. I haven't played with these much.
Finally, I forgot to put WALLPAPER on the list in the original post. I believe this only appears as a background image on the home screens.
If any reader sees errors in my layman's analysis, please, by all means jump in and correct me. Per my disclaimer in Post #1, I am just an ordinary user and this analysis could be flawed or incorrect in whole or in part.
Everytime I try to answer a question like this, I get too complex about it and leave more questions than answers. Then someone comes along and says "It's like Windows or Linux or MacOS on a PC", and that's that. Well they're right. Those OS's tell the PC's that they are PC's and essentially all OS's do the same things.
Here's my simplified new list:
1) Hardware on phone :: meaningless without OS
-- (android OS - or any other OS)
2) Linux kernel understands hardware like touchscreen, radios, I/O (drivers/modules). Of course it also understands how to schedule processes and all those "kernel tasks".
3) Libraries provide APIs (Application programming interface) to userspace code (like APPS).
4) Userspace (apps, scripts, libraries) provide user control over the phone.
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Together they work in harmony (we hope) to make the phone realize it is a phone and allow us to use it as such. (well, a smartphone, so many things other than a phone).
Here's a simple example: You touch the phone icon which is in userspace, and it brings up the userspace phone app. As soon (or before) as you touch some buttons, dial a number, it is using the API to the driver in the kernel that actually understands the phone hardware/radio. Also userspace controls GUI which is also requiring API to some form of OPENGL API that is requiring device drivers that get the touchscreen/LCD display. and so on.
--- Hashi
PS: I realize there are a thousand things wrong with this representation, but hey, it's a start. Feel free to fix it up if you're inclined.

[REQ] Calling for support for Dedicated iTouch-like Android build for HD2

Just telling you guys the story first.
I have this spare HD2 lying around after getting the Sensation which also has a severely cracked screen (LCD working, and screen protector on top to prevent injured fingers when using ). A thought occurred to me: Why not build Android to function like an iTouch? I.e: Remove anything related to the SIM card/ remove everything that involves making calls, SMS, etc but retain the functionality of Android apps etc(As I will be using DATA SIM). Most importantly, I want it to be fully optimised for those (I believe that the phone/sms functions running in the background would affect the full potential for the HD2 running music, video, and other apps). I do know how to flash ROMS, and customise downloaded ROMS (e.g: Slipstreaming apps I want, remove some apps I don't want, customise build.prop, etc) and also some programming (a bit of obj-C, a bit of C#, and lots of VB.NET). However, I do not know how to build Android from scratch. Hence I would appreciate if:
-I can get devs to assist me in building Android from source code and customise it so it fits my expectations
-I can get support for this project as I plan to release my work to the public when its done
I will give credit to those who helped. Thanks.
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arikyeo said:
Just telling you guys the story first.
I have this spare HD2 lying around after getting the Sensation which also has a severely cracked screen (LCD working, and screen protector on top to prevent injured fingers when using ). A thought occurred to me: Why not build Android to function like an iTouch? I.e: Remove anything related to the SIM card/ remove everything that involves making calls, SMS, etc but retain the functionality of Android apps etc(As I will be using DATA SIM). Most importantly, I want it to be fully optimised for those (I believe that the phone/sms functions running in the background would affect the full potential for the HD2 running music, video, and other apps). I do know how to flash ROMS, and customise downloaded ROMS (e.g: Slipstreaming apps I want, remove some apps I don't want, customise build.prop, etc) and also some programming (a bit of obj-C, a bit of C#, and lots of VB.NET). However, I do not know how to build Android from scratch. Hence I would appreciate if:
-I can get devs to assist me in building Android from source code and customise it so it fits my expectations
-I can get support for this project as I plan to release my work to the public when its done
I will give credit to those who helped. Thanks.
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arikyeo said:
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Sir, i seriously doubt your state of mental stability.
And as for your request, the best you can do is use in Airplane mode and switch on wireless. Works for me when i don't want to waste my battery.
Just so that you know, the Qualcomm processors have 2 ARM CPUs on the die, 1 for Radio(Wireless/bluetooth/GSM etc) and 1 for the General purpose/Logic etc... I don't think GSM functions and the phone app running in the background would even mean or translate into anything near a burden or even something which would affect the performace for the CPU in your HD2.
you're pretty much dead-end on this one mate.
android is built ground-up for use in mobile phones. look at those cheap shenzen tablets..they all have no network icon in top bar, and com.android.phone must be running. removing this will only result not working phone as these also include core services-market access etc
only hope you have for doing what you want is to somehow get honeycomb workin' on qsd8250 and tiny fingers to interact with it.
imho best bet would be to just install CM or MIUI, and hide phone etc from launcher.
refer to post above for "very exact explanation" of everything you are trying to do

New Android feature suggestions...

Is there someplace people can go to make requests for new Android features? (Someplace were developers might actually see it and perhaps implement the requests?)
I have had ideas for several features that I think would make my Android devices (I have owned about 6) far better...
- One of my ideas was the ability for more than one Bluetooth device (ie: wireless headphone/earphones) to be able to connect to a single Android device at the same time. I go running, hiking, etc... When I go alone, I often listen to music. It would be great if when I run with someone else, if they could listen to the music I am playing on my Android device at the same time I am.
- I have changed ROMs many times, but when I do, it is always a pain to have to setup (or recreate) my music playlists on the new ROM. Many (not all) Android music players seem to allow users to import music playlists that have been created on PCs or whatever. None of the music players or the Android OS itself seem to allow me to save a music playlist as a file (ie: export) that I can reload later, use on another device, or give to someone else.
- None of the Android ROMs I have come across seem to provide a (relatively easy) way to change the the the resolution (LCD density) so that I can make images and text larger or smaller on my display. This is something that is very easy to do (change a setting and hit save/apply) on every PC I have ever owned, but the few ROMs that seem to allow this seem to have a complex procedure for doing it.
- Ability to put Widgets in folders (on the desktop). I like widgets. I sometimes even like the UI of a widget better than the associated app. (Sometimes widgets provides a nice condensed view of the information/features, or provide simple capabilities like a switch to turn on/off a feature without launching menus and digging through them.) Unfortunately the Android OS (or the "Home" apps that currently exist) does not (do not) allow widgets to be put into a folder on the desktop. I would like this feature for many reasons. 1) The folder could limit the widget from consuming battery or system resources until the folder was opened. That way widgets would not use up my battery or CPU cycles until I opened the folder and looked at them.
- It would be great to have a "magnifying glass" (zoom feature) that I could use to make any specific area on the display larger (so that if I'm having trouble seeing something small on the display, I can magnify it large enough to see it).
I have more ideas, but those are just a few of the things I think would make Android devices better. Feel free to add your own suggestions to this list.
Pretty good ideas as far as magnifying just pinch to zoom in that specific area or double tap. I believe there are apps to backup a music playlist the bluetooth idea is actually kind of cool
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mediawiz said:
Is there someplace people can go to make requests for new Android features? (Someplace were developers might actually see it and perhaps implement the requests?)
I have had ideas for several features that I think would make my Android devices (I have owned about 6) far better...
- One of my ideas was the ability for more than one Bluetooth device (ie: wireless headphone/earphones) to be able to connect to a single Android device at the same time. I go running, hiking, etc... When I go alone, I often listen to music. It would be great if when I run with someone else, if they could listen to the music I am playing on my Android device at the same time I am.
- I have changed ROMs many times, but when I do, it is always a pain to have to setup (or recreate) my music playlists on the new ROM. Many (not all) Android music players seem to allow users to import music playlists that have been created on PCs or whatever. None of the music players or the Android OS itself seem to allow me to save a music playlist as a file (ie: export) that I can reload later, use on another device, or give to someone else.
- None of the Android ROMs I have come across seem to provide a (relatively easy) way to change the the the resolution (LCD density) so that I can make images and text larger or smaller on my display. This is something that is very easy to do (change a setting and hit save/apply) on every PC I have ever owned, but the few ROMs that seem to allow this seem to have a complex procedure for doing it.
- Ability to put Widgets in folders (on the desktop). I like widgets. I sometimes even like the UI of a widget better than the associated app. (Sometimes widgets provides a nice condensed view of the information/features, or provide simple capabilities like a switch to turn on/off a feature without launching menus and digging through them.) Unfortunately the Android OS (or the "Home" apps that currently exist) does not (do not) allow widgets to be put into a folder on the desktop. I would like this feature for many reasons. 1) The folder could limit the widget from consuming battery or system resources until the folder was opened. That way widgets would not use up my battery or CPU cycles until I opened the folder and looked at them.
- It would be great to have a "magnifying glass" (zoom feature) that I could use to make any specific area on the display larger (so that if I'm having trouble seeing something small on the display, I can magnify it large enough to see it).
I have more ideas, but those are just a few of the things I think would make Android devices better. Feel free to add your own suggestions to this list.
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Great ideas. I use Google Music to set up my playlists with my music on my desktop at home. No matter if I'm at work, over a friends house, or switching roms on my phone, as soon as I download google music, all my playlists and music is right at my fingertips.
As far as resolution changing, I would suggest Carbon Rom as you can change your density in less than a minute, and that's mostly because you have to reboot twice, but there are no force close issues or any of that.
As far as features go, I would like to see recovery feature addition:
The thing I hate the most about switching roms is having to log in to 15 different accounts again. I wish TWRP would construct a feature that allows me to carry over my sign in information for standard apps (Facebook, Webex, GroupME, etc.) that most people use.
Or perhaps, a ROM that offered three different login slots that attempted to log into every app that I restore using those slots first and if login is unsuccessful, THEN prompt me to enter login information.
Just a suggestion that would allow the end-user to streamline setting up his/her rom. What do you guys think?
PS: I think the multi-bluetooth device feature would be sweet as well. I have a couple of computers at home that I use my Note to control, it would be nice to have the option to control any given device in an instance.
As for resolution, that's much more easier said than done, since some apps would have to be rebuilt from the ground, or at least would have to individually be written and flashed for said resolution.
However, if there are a few apps that you really want to change (like for me, G-Mail, Chrome, XDA, gReader, etc), you really need to check out XPosed, honestly, I don't know if I'll ever buy a device that doesn't support it or something similar. It features on the fly resolution/DPI adjustments per app, one of the greatest MODs ever brought to Android, hands down.
The Note2 does what I need it to once rooted. I would like to see better prices and data first. Why have the next great thing when you pay out the ass and don't have equal speed?
I would like to see Android updates that actually make me want them, like better codex, performance, UI functions, etc. Some updates don't really seem like updates, like when Ubuntu releases a new version but you do the same thing as before, and you are left wanting more.
daswahnsinn said:
The Note2 does what I need it to once rooted. I would like to see better prices and data first. Why have the next great thing when you pay out the ass and don't have equal speed?
I would like to see Android updates that actually make me want them, like better codex, performance, UI functions, etc. Some updates don't really seem like updates, like when Ubuntu releases a new version but you do the same thing as before, and you are left wanting more.
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I agree somewhat. However, I think that the 4.2.2 roms with Linaro are noticeably faster than other 4.2.2 roms without it. Carbon is much faster without me having to use apps like Pimp My Rom and Lag Reducer without compromising my battery performance.
Halo is also another great custom feature that may one day rival the stock multi-window feature.
I also like the profile triggers built into Carbon, bluetooth and wifi triggers are wonderful, hopefully we can get some GPS triggers, then we will really be in business lol.
All in all, I agree with you though, we need some REAL POWER behind these updates. But I'm sure devs would say "Let's get some real CASH behind the devs and you guys will see some POWER!!" **Gotta look at it from both sides**
Great input guys. Let's keep it going!!!
lightning launcher has the widget in folder capabilities. It's my daily launcher
just saying.....
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Need the Android equivalent to iMessage.
Desperately needed and no, Google Hangouts (in its current state ) is not the answer.
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[email protected] said:
I agree somewhat. However, I think that the 4.2.2 roms with Linaro are noticeably faster than other 4.2.2 roms without it. Carbon is much faster without me having to use apps like Pimp My Rom and Lag Reducer without compromising my battery performance.
Halo is also another great custom feature that may one day rival the stock multi-window feature.
I also like the profile triggers built into Carbon, bluetooth and wifi triggers are wonderful, hopefully we can get some GPS triggers, then we will really be in business lol.
All in all, I agree with you though, we need some REAL POWER behind these updates. But I'm sure devs would say "Let's get some real CASH behind the devs and you guys will see some POWER!!" **Gotta look at it from both sides**
Great input guys. Let's keep it going!!!
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See I like Touchwiz and the stock UI bs and want more of these mods to make into a stock ROM, sometimes I wish Sammy read these types of forums.

[PARTIAL REVIEW] Jiayu G4S 16GB ROM 2GB RAM

Thanks to the mods for moving this. Sorry i posted it in the wrong place - oops!
Hey everybody. In a blatant and self serving attempt to try and cultivate interest and support in a phone that I have just purchased, I thought I would post a mini review here with a little bit of info
Seriously though, if, like me, XDA as usually your one stop shop for everything phone related and you're considering buying one of the many offerings available directly from China these days, getting the right info can be hard. Sure, some info is available on other sites, but often online translation tools are necessary and it's hard to get a clear picture of what you can really expect from a prospective purchase.
I've been reading about various Chinese devices for over a year now, quietly waiting until I was sure I could get a reasonable level of performance for my money before buying one, all the while nursing my ageing HTC Sensation through daily use. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 as well, but that has a broken screen so it is purely used as a mini media PC connected to a TV these days. I also have an Nvidia Tegra Note that offers great performance at a very reasonable price.
I am uncertain how much waffle you guys will want to wade through so I'll list some basic specs and then provide a few pros and cons as I see them, plus a few very basic tips that I've stumbled on in the first week, some of which will apply to similar devices that use vey similar ROMs. If you want more info, please ask.
Forum member oxiroxt has had a fairly mixed experience with their G4S, including hardware problems. details are in post 1175 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59463919&postcount=1175
Here are the basic specs:
Jiayu G4S -
16GB ROM 2GB RAM - MediaTek Octacore A7 MT6592 SoC @1.7Ghz with Mali 450 GPU.
Dual sim card standby (one Micro SIM Card)
GSM 900/1800MHz (see screenshot below of MTK Engineer Mode which shows more bands available, including GSM850 - I haven't tested this band though)
WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Android OS: 4.2.2
4.7 inch, IPS multi points corning Gorilla II OGS touch Screen (I have my doubts about the Gorilla Glass as I have a couple of small scratches already)
Camera: Front camera 3.0 Megapixels. Back camera: 13.0 Megapixels with CMOS flashlight, auto focus
Stereo FM Radio
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
3000mAh battery
Dimensions: 133×65×10(mm)
What's in the box:
1 x Phone
1 x Battery
1 x AC Charger Adapter
1 x USB Cable
Pros:
Price - Only £137 delivered to UK via DHL - price is falling all the time at the moment too.
Screen - Pleasing colours, better outdoor visibility than I expected.
Call quality - good, with noise cancellation microphone on rear of device (call quality better than HTC Sensation)
Performance - over 27,000 points in Antutu, nice and fluid in use. Not as quick as Tegra Note or Snapdragon 800 of course
Battery life - over five hours of screen on time in a sixteen hour period, with 37% battery remaining. I have hit eight hours of screen time twice.
Build quality - less creaky than my Note 2
Supports USB OTG
Supports USB Mass Storage when connecting to PC
Compact size - at only 65mm wide, one handed use is practical for most people.
GPU performance is not great - only two thirds of the Samsung Galaxy S4, but it's ok for Modern Combat 4. It scores 61FPS on in Epic Citadel on high detail setting (Ultra High setting unavailable).
Pre-rooted - Root can be toggled under Settings/Security (love this feature in a stock ROM)
SD card slot
Dual SIM
Removable battery
Notification Light - three colour, RGB
Cons:
Lack of developer support here on XDA for now
No MHL for TV out
Caller ID mismatch bug
Camera below expectations - certainly worse than tweaked HTC Sensation camera
Possible wifi bug - affects things like wireless streaming if the screen is off
Deodexing ROM to work with files not 'standard' procedure
GPS - connects quickly but accuracy is still behind Qualcomm's efforts these days (much better than the old HTC Touch Pro/Raphael though!!)
Internal SD only approx. 9GB with internal storage just under a further 4GBs (It should be possible to repartition this by altering EBR1 and EBR2, but I haven't tried. iOcean have done this on their latest ROM for the X7S, decreasing phone storage to 1GB and increasing internal SD card to about 13GB - May 2014).
Screen has some backlight bleeding around bottom edges - sensitivity slightly lower than I'm used to but by no means bad.
Most sites claim 64GB Micro SDXC support - this is wrong, exFAT is not supported so you'll need to format the card to Fat32 for it to work.
English US - if you're in the UK and you change the language to English, you'll be stuck with US English language and location. To get around this you will need to toggle root on in settings/security, download Morelocales2 from the Play Store and then use it to change over to EN GB. I've edited the build.prop too.
Xposed - doesn't work at the moment due to the way the ROM is compiled (if I've understood correctly). Head over to that thread for basic details of a workaround to deodex the ROM, or download one of the customs ROMs based on stock that has been deodexed.
No 4G
Buttons are not backlit
There were issues with Facebook and Whats App but apparently all is now OK - sorry I don't use these so I haven't tried. Earlier versions of Facebook apparently work.
Recovery, Drivers for PC, Flash tools etc:
Jiayu.es app - Recoveries and tools are available from several sources, but at the time of writing the easiest way now is to download the Jiayu.es app. This now has downloads for the stock recovery, CWM, Stock ROM (European version with ASOP keyboard as opposed to Baidu which comes on the phone if you buy directly from China) as well as drivers for PC and the necessary tools to flash the ROM from a PC.
Mobile Uncle Tools - I used this to flash CWM recovery and tweak a few things before I discovered the Jiayu.es app. You can use this to back up your IMEI (NVRAM) which I highly recommend as the loss of IMEI is something I have read about frequently when people are flashing similar devices.
ROMs:
Before flashing any ROMs, I recommend using MTK Droid Tools to create a backup of your device on your PC. This includes backing up your IMEI number and every other partition. If you hit trouble you can restore your device to factory fresh. Head over to gizbeat for a tutorial and video.
Unfortunately at the moment I don't have time to try lots of ROMs (boooo!) which is frustrating, but it's also a mark of the fact that I'm just able to use the Jiayu stock ROM without too many compromises.
As the device gains in popularity there are now more an more ROMs appearing in various forums around the web. At the moment, there are a few basic choices to make. First, there are the stock ROMs 'officially' released by Jiayu. The stock ROMS are installed using SPFlashtools. Secondly there are deodexed versions of the stock ROMs that will allow you to run the Xposed framework and mods like the excellent Gravitybox. Thirdly there are ports of other ROMs, such as MIUI of ColorOS. The last two types will be installed through recovery, for which you need a custom recovery such as CWM.
One of the stock ROMs as well as both a stock recovery and CWM Recovery are available through the Jiayu.es app.
For me, the main source of ROMS remains NeedROM. There are now several recoveries, the stock ROM as well as ports of MIUI, ColorOS, YunOS and so on. This is the place I usually check first as the site is well organised and in English which makes it easier for me: http://www.needrom.com/phone-roms/jiayu/g4s/
There are now a number of ROMs available here, including at least a couple of MIUI here:
http://www.592zn.com/ (use Google Translate to browse the site if needed and to find the threads relating to the Jiayu G4S
Jiayu forum:
http://bbs.ejiayu.com/forum-184-1.html
Some of mite_jan's posts with recommendations/ROM related links (press thanks if you appreciate his links):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52989103&postcount=50
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53133246&postcount=90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53270549&postcount=134
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53284249&postcount=141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53361043&postcount=180
Two Hidden Tweaks in ROM:
1. A limited set of developer options was already available in settings when I first booted my G4S (Stay Awake, USB Debugging, Allow Mock Locations), but if you want access to the whole lot you can repeatedly tap the Android Version section under Settings/About Phone. This will take you straight to the developer options page. By default all animations are turned off so I used this to turn them on. You will still only have access to limited developer options once you exit this page, so you will have to get tapping the next time want to go back into it.
2. An 'Advanced Settings' option in Settings menu will appear if you repeatedly tap the Build Number under Settings/About Phone. This new menu allows you to tweak the transparency separately for lockscreen, main interface and the status bar itself. There's also and option to toggle the volume key wake feature, but this doesn't do anything for me - the volume buttons always wake the phone.
General Blurb:
So far, I feel like my money has been well spent, though I'm only a week into ownership. The screen in particular has exceeded my expectations with pleasant colours and reasonable outdoor visibility (better than HTC Sensation, but not great). Whites look 'white' as opposed to having the slightly yellowy hue that has affected all the devices with AMOLED screens that I've used, not to mention the poor offering on my Tegra Note. There's more backlight bleeding around the edges than I would like though which is a pity. This is certainly not the case with all Chinese devices - the iOcean X7S, for example, has a much better screen from that point of view. Call quality has exceeded my expectations and, as with other similar devices, the firmware offers various ways to manage the dual SIM functionality. As well as binding specific contacts to a particular SIM, you can also independently choose which SIM is used for SMS, voice calls, data and video calls. You can also be prompted to choose which SIM to use on the fly each time if you prefer. Only one SIM can use WCDMA at a time, but you can choose which SIM that is without physically swapping the SIMs or rebooting the phone. I thought battery life might be poor with two SIMs in, especially as I live in a marginal area for one of the networks I use, but so far battery life has been pretty good in general use. I was surprised to get over five hours screen time and still have well over 30% battery left. Intensive games and videos can drain the battery more quickly though of course.
Build quality also appears to be pretty good for a budget device. It's certainly less creaky than my partner's Note, my Note 2 and any other number of Samsung devices that I've used. The petite dimensions are also great. The thickness of 10mm simply isn't an issue for me, especially given the generous battery under the hood. For the first week there were no noises from it at all, though there is a tiny creak from one corner of the battery cover now after many many cycles of removing and replacing it as a result of messing about with it.
The main issues I've faced so far are the fairly weak 13MP camera that introduces a lot of noise and offers poor detail in spite of a wide range of tweaking options within the app itself and a caller ID mismatch bug revolving around MIN_MATCH criteria . The latter means that if you store a contact's telephone number in domestic format (e.g. 07707 123456) then send them a text message, any reply you receive from them will be prefixed with the international country code and will be put into a separate thread. If you store their number with the international dialling code, when they call from the same country, the phone will not recognise their number. So far the easiest bodge is to store both formats for each contact, then remember to send SMS to the number will international prefix. Both these issues are deeply annoying from my perspective. See here for an explanation of the caller ID problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268120
There does also appears to be a bug with wifi - if you stream films wirelessly to your TV the screen will have to remain on, which is the first time I've had this issue.
Performance is genuinely fluid if not up to Tegra 4 or Snapdragon 800 standards, but it's certainly better than the Galaxy Note 2. The one area that confuses me is GPU performance. I very briefly had an iOcean X7S which has the same SoC but a 1080p screen rather than the Jiayu's 720p. To my surprise the Jiayu actually scores lower in Antutu in this area. My guess is that either this is a SoC from a different BIN compared to those going into the 1080p devices, or something else is going on to artificially limit performance. On balance, for the money, performance is fantastic and is better than other phones being offered in the UK from retail outlets at over twice the price. Personally I miss some of the features of HTCs Sense based ROMs, but not enough at the moment to shell out over £500. This is now my daily driver and unless it dies prematurely I think I'll have it for up to a year (dependent upon whether or not I get fed up with the camera). Within a year my gut feeling is that similar devices with 4G will be ready for main stream adoption In much the same way that sections of the motorcycling community enjoy having a flagship bike and a small capacity run around to hack, tune and mess around with, I kind of hope more XDA users will start to buy devices like the Jiayu G4S and mess around with them. I know MediaTek have been useless at releasing the source code which is a massive stumbling block, but we can still have a bit of fun with them, eh?
*UPDATES*
Battery life - on one occasion I reached just under 35 hours of up time, with 7 hours 52 minutes of screen time, with 9% battery left. Usage was a mix of a few phones calls, some text messages, two email accounts, web browsing, about thirty minutes of Shadowgun, around an hour of streaming music via A2DP and about two hours of listening to music on headphones.
Multi tasking is good when web browsing and listening to music (as it should be). Playing a game like Shadowgun whilst using a Moga Pro controller AND streaming music via Bluetooth is also absolutely fine.
Bluetooth - Bluetooth range is better than on my Tegra Note, HTC Sensation and Note 2 when streaming music. The actual quality of audio via Bluetooth is not the best. It's noticeably worse than the Note 2.
Audio quality out of the headphone jack is also not great. The built in equaliser helps a lot, but it really doesn't sound much better than Bluetooth to me.
Camera - somehow, I have dust inside the outer lens already (the outer lense being part of the sealed camera unit). UPDATE I hovered the dust out!!
As for the images themselves, I've found setting sharpness to maximum and turning off face beautification helps improve images a bit. User 'coffee' over at MTKForums.com reckons the Camera FV-5 app is great at getting the best out of the sensor in the G4S, especially if you save the images in lossless PNG format. I haven't tried it yet.
GPS - after using GPS Test to get the first lock (go outside, set the option within the app to keep the screen on and update AGPS data), subsequent locks have usually been very quick. Unfortunately accuracy in apps like Co-pilot has been very hit and miss for me. On a few occasions my location is shown on an adjacent road that is over 50 metres away. In one instance restarting the device solved the problem. I've recorded a few tracks whilst cycling using Endomondo Pro and these have been fine apart from one occasion where I stopped and went in a shop and it added a mile onto my journey!
Notification LED - this is a three colour red, green, blue unit, so you should be able to set the colour for different notifications using a third party app. I haven't tried this yet.
Charging bug - the LED will glow green when the battery is only 90% charged. The iOcean X7S has exactly the same issue.
Text/Font not being visible - if you can't see text in certain apps (Such as Titanium Backup), open the Themes app and switch to the 'System' theme.
Wired Headset - I don't have the official Jiayu Headset but I've tried Samsung and HTC's more recent offerings. The play/pause button on the Samsung headset works, but the volume buttons skip tracks instead. Play/pause works on the HTC headset, as do next/previous track, but fast forward and rewind do not. I haven't tried making calls with them yet. As there are a couple of different standards for four pole 3.5mm headsets that each have the 'ground' and 'microphone' in different positions, you will need to have the right type for the correct functionality.
USB OTG - In addition to flash drives and a small bus powered 80GB hard drive, I've also tried a 1TB WD Passport Ultra formatted to fat32 (also bus powered). Unfortunately the G4S was unable to power it. Some other devices such as a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 are able to. If you connect the drive to a powered USB hub, then connect the hub to the phone it works fine.
ROM UPDATE 20140422-121442 - For me, the caller ID bug remains To be more exact, if I text someone using the national telephone format (e.g. 07707 123456), when they respond the message is sent with the international dialling prefix (+44 for example) and their SMS will be placed in a different thread.
This ROM uses the same format that original phones imported from China have, i.e. it comes with Baidu IME input as opposed to the one available from Jiayu.es which has the ASOP keyboard. There are a few other differences between the Chinese and Worldwide releases. The kernel and radio etc are the same as the last two releases. I used the ext4_unpacker tool available here on XDA to have a look inside the system.img of the new release and the old release, and I think many of the libs are the same too.
One small bug that seems to be fixed is that call history times in the dialler now displays properly, rather than being obscured by other parts of the dialer.
The volume key wake toggle option in the advanced setting area still does not work (you can't prevent the volume keys from waking the phone).
With most of the themes, the problem where text in some apps is invisible remains the same. Use the 'System' theme to get around this.
USB OTG.....continued - Sadly the CSL DVB-T mini Android TV Stick doesn't work with the G4S out of the box.
FIX - First, turn on superuser/root access in settings/security. Then download Chainfire's USB Host Diagnostics from the Play Store. Run the app, then hit Start Diagnostics. You will be prompted to plug in a USB OTG device. I used a OTG adapter and a memory stick. After the diagnostics have run and you have been asked whether or not you want to upload the results, you will be prompted that USB OTG is not working and that it might benefit from attempting a fix. Let it run the fix and then reboot the phone. The CSL TV dongle will now work
I guess this will probably also help with other USB OTG problems you might encounter.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CSL-Receiver-Smartphones-Interface-Smartphone/dp/B00DZR3OKS#productDetails
Sample photos courtesy of user ykassana http://mtkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=842
Jiayu G4S Original Rom Caller ID Mismatch
Caller ID Mismatch is a common problem in chinese roms, for Jiayu G4S follow these steps:
1. Using root explorer to edit the build.prob file inside /System
add this line at the end of the file
ro.init.phonenumber_match= 7
2. Go to settings >> App >> All >> Contacts Storage >> Clear Data >> Reboot
Good Luck
nightcap79 said:
Caller ID Mismatch is a common problem in chinese roms, for Jiayu G4S follow these steps:
1. Using root explorer to edit the build.prob file inside /System
add this line at the end of the file
ro.init.phonenumber_match= 7
2. Go to settings >> App >> All >> Contacts Storage >> Clear Data >> Reboot
Good Luck
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Thanks very much for posting. I stumbled on that suggestion a few days ago, but unfortunately it doesn't work on this ROM : (
How come the buttons are not back lighted? I've asked two sellers and they claimed that buttons are back lighted. Are you sure? Maybe there is an option to enable?
Can you make a memory test with AndroBench application?
Thank you for a little review anyway. Keep us up to date with your experience and more observations with this phone.
g4s software issues?
Hi,
I've bought this phone too and I'm facing some issues, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345
Specifically, incompatibility with the following applications:
Facebook (crash after less than a second of usage)
Firefox (crash after few seconds of usage)
Babbel (crash only after you've logged in, and once you've done it crash as soon as it starts)
google agenda
Have you tried these apps?
Any hint on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345 ???
Doman said:
How come the buttons are not back lighted? I've asked two sellers and they claimed that buttons are back lighted. Are you sure? Maybe there is an option to enable?
Can you make a memory test with AndroBench application?
Thank you for a little review anyway. Keep us up to date with your experience and more observations with this phone.
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The buttons definitely aren't backlit on my one. I've no idea if they will be in on examples made later on. I read somewhere that on last year's G4 basic and Advanced models someone found a way to get them to work. I honestly don't know if the hardware is even capable on this year's models.
I'll look into Androbench.
drpete_doyoubnb said:
Hi,
I've bought this phone too and I'm facing some issues, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345
Specifically, incompatibility with the following applications:
Facebook (crash after less than a second of usage)
Firefox (crash after few seconds of usage)
Babbel (crash only after you've logged in, and once you've done it crash as soon as it starts)
google agenda
Have you tried these apps?
Any hint on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345 ???
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Sorry, no, I haven't used any of these apps so I can't give any feedback.
My partial review (in spanish), another bug, and a thankful message
Ouzo said:
Hey everybody. In a blatant and self serving attempt to try and cultivate interest and support in a phone that I have just purchased, I thought I would post a mini review here with a little bit of info
Seriously though, if, like me, XDA is usually your one stop shop for everything phone related and you're considering buying one of the many offerings available directly from China these days, getting the right info can be hard. Sure, some info is available on other sites, but often online translation tools are necessary and it's hard to get a clear picture of what you can really expect from a prospective purchase.
I've been reading about various Chinese devices for over a year now, quietly waiting until I was sure I could get a reasonable level of performance for my money before buying one, all the while nursing my ageing HTC Sensation through daily use. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 as well, but that has a broken screen so it is purely used as a mini media PC connected to a TV these days. I also have an Nvidia Tegra Note that offers great performance at a very reasonable price.
I am uncertain how much waffle you guys will want to wade through so I'll list some basic specs and then provide a few pros and cons as I see them, plus a few very basic tips that I've stumbled on in the first week, some of which will apply to similar devices that use vey similar ROMs. If you want more info, please ask.
Here are the basic specs:
Jiayu G4S -
16GB ROM 2GB RAM - MediaTek Octacore A7 MT6592 SoC @1.7Ghz with Mali 450 GPU.
Dual sim card standby (one Micro SIM Card)
GSM 900/1800MHz
WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Android OS: 4.2.2
4.7 inch, IPS multi points corning Gorilla II OGS touch Screen (I have my doubts about the Gorilla Glass as I have a couple of small scratches already)
Camera: Front camera 3.0 Megapixels. Back camera: 13.0 Megapixels with CMOS flashlight, auto focus
Stereo FM Radio
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
3000mAh battery
Dimensions: 133×65×10(mm)
What's in the box:
1 x Phone
1 x Battery
1 x AC Charger Adapter
1 x USB Cable
Pros:
Price - Only £137 delivered to UK via DHL - price is falling all the time at the moment too.
Screen - Pleasing colours, better outdoor visibility than I expected.
Call quality - good, with noise cancellation microphone on rear of device (call quality better than HTC Sensation)
Performance - over 27,000 points in Antutu, nice and fluid in use. Not as quick as Tegra Note or Snapdragon 800 of course
Battery life - over five hours of screen on time in a sixteen hour period, with 37% battery remaining
Build quality - less creaky than my Note 2
Supports USB OTG
Supports USB Mass Storage when connecting to PC
Compact size - at only 65mm wide, one handed use is practical for most people.
GPU performance is not great - only two thirds of the Samsung Galaxy S4, but it's ok for Modern Combat 4
Pre-rooted - Root can be toggled under Settings/Security (love this feature in a stock ROM)
SD card slot
Dual SIM
Removable battery
Cons:
Lack of developer support here on XDA
No MHL for TV out
Caller ID mismatch bug
Camera below expectations - certainly worse than tweaked HTC Sensation camera
Possible wifi bug - affects things like wireless streaming if the screen is off
Deodexing ROM to work with files not 'standard' procedure
GPS - connects quickly but accuracy is still behind Qualcomm's efforts these days (much better than the old HTC Touch Pro/Raphael though!!)
Internal SD only approx. 9GB with phone storage just under a further 4GBs
Screen has some backlight bleeding around bottom edges - sensitivity slightly lower than I'm used to.
Most sites claim 64GB Micro SDXC support - this is wrong, exFAT is not supported so you'll need to format the card to Fat32 for it to work.
English US - if you're in the UK and you change the language to English, you'll be stuck with US English language and location so you'll need to toggle root on in settings and download Morelocales2 from the Play Store and change over to EN GB. I've edited the build.prop too.
Xposed - doesn't work at the moment due to the way the ROM is compiled (if I've understood correctly). Head over to that thread for basic details of a workaround to deodex the ROM.
No 4G
Buttons are not backlit
Recovery, Drivers for PC, Flash tools etc:
Jiayu.es app - Recoveries and tools are available from several sources, but at the time of writing the easiest way now is to download the Jiayu.es app. This now has downloads for the stock recovery, CWM, Stock ROM (European version with ASOP keyboard as opposed to Baidu which comes on the phone if you buy directly from China) as well as drivers for PC and the necessary tools to flash the ROM from a PC.
Mobile Uncle Tools - I used this to flash CWM recovery and tweak a few things before I discovered the Jiayu.es app. You can use this to back up your IMEI (NVRAM) which I highly recommend as the loss of IMEI is something I have read about frequently when people are flashing similar devices.
ROMs:
In addition to the stock ROM in the Jiayu.es app, you can also find a recovery and ROM on http://www.needrom.com/
There are also various ROMs including at least a couple of MIUI here: http://www.592zn.com/
Two Hidden Tweaks in ROM:
1. A limited set of developer options was already available in settings when I first booted my G4S (Stay Awake, USB Debugging, Allow Mock Locations), but if you want access to the whole lot you can repeatedly tap the Android Version section under Settings/About Phone. This will take you straight to the developer options page. By default all animations are turned off so I used this to turn them on. You will still only have access to limited developer options once you exit this page, so you will have to get tapping the next time want to go back into it.
2. An 'Advanced Settings' option in Settings menu will appear if you repeatedly tap the Build Number under Settings/About Phone. This new menu allows you to tweak the transparency separately for lockscreen, main interface and the status bar itself. There's also and option to toggle the volume key wake feature, but this doesn't do anything for me - the volume buttons always wake the phone.
General Blurb:
So far, I feel like my money has been well spent, though I'm only a week into ownership. The screen in particular has exceeded my expectations with pleasant colours and reasonable outdoor visibility (better than HTC Sensation, but not great). Whites look 'white' as opposed to having the slightly yellowy hue that has affected all the devices with AMOLED screens that I've used, not to mention the poor offering on my Tegra Note. There's more backlight bleeding around the edges than I would like though which is a pity. This is certainly not the case with all Chinese devices - the iOcean X7S, for example, has a much better screen from that point of view. Call quality has exceeded my expectations and, as with other similar devices, the firmware offers various ways to manage the dual SIM functionality. As well as binding specific contacts to a particular SIM, you can also independently choose which SIM is used for SMS, voice calls, data and video calls. You can also be prompted to choose which SIM to use on the fly each time if you prefer. Only one SIM can use WCDMA at a time, but you can choose which SIM that is without physically swapping the SIMs or rebooting the phone. I thought battery life might be poor with two SIMs in, especially as I live in a marginal area for one of the networks I use, but so far battery life has been pretty good in general use. I was surprised to get over five hours screen time and still have well over 30% battery left. Intensive games and videos can drain the battery more quickly though of course.
Build quality also appears to be pretty good for a budget device. It's certainly less creaky than my partner's Note, my Note 2 and any other number of Samsung devices that I've used. The petite dimensions are also great. The thickness of 10mm simply isn't an issue for me, especially given the generous battery under the hood. For the first week there were no noises from it at all, though there is a tiny creak from one corner of the battery cover now after many many cycles of removing and replacing it as a result of messing about with it.
The main issues I've faced so far are the fairly weak 13MP camera that introduces a lot of noise and offers poor detail in spite of a wide range of tweaking options within the app itself and a caller ID mismatch bug revolving around MIN_MATCH criteria . The latter means that if you store a contact's telephone number in domestic format (e.g. 07707 123456) then send them a text message, any reply you receive from them will be prefixed with the international country code and will be put into a separate thread. If you store their number with the international dialling code, when they call from the same country, the phone will not recognise their number. So far the easiest bodge is to store both formats for each contact, then remember to send SMS to the number will international prefix. Both these issues are deeply annoying from my perspective. See here for an explanation of the caller ID problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268120
There does also appears to be a bug with wifi - if you stream films wirelessly to your TV the screen will have to remain on, which is the first time I've had this issue.
Performance is genuinely fluid if not up to Tegra 4 or Snapdragon 800 standards, but it's certainly better than the Galaxy Note 2. The one area that confuses me is GPU performance. I very briefly had an iOcean X7S which has the same SoC but a 1080p screen rather than the Jiayu's 720p. To my surprise the Jiayu actually scores lower in Antutu in this area. My guess is that either this is a SoC from a different BIN compared to those going into the 1080p devices, or something else is going on to artificially limit performance. On balance, for the money, performance is fantastic and is better than other phones being offered in the UK from retail outlets at over twice the price. Personally I miss some of the features of HTCs Sense based ROMs, but not enough at the moment to shell out over £500. This is now my daily driver and unless it dies prematurely I think I'll have it for up to a year (dependent upon whether or not I get fed up with the camera). Within a year my gut feeling is that similar devices with 4G will be ready for main stream adoption In much the same way that sections of the motorcycling community enjoy having a flagship bike and a small capacity run around to hack, tune and mess around with, I kind of hope more XDA users will start to buy devices like the Jiayu G4S and mess around with them. I know MediaTek have been useless at releasing the source code which is a massive stumbling block, but we can still have a bit of fun with them, eh?
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Hi Everyone, as this is my first post in this forum, I would like to say thanks to everyone involved for your efforts and good job, focused on helping the Internet Android community.
Second: I would like to thank Ouzo for pointing pros and problems actually ocurring to this model, maybe this helps on finding solution.
Third, i can say than spanish customers are finding problems with hands free during calls: The person at the other side of the line hears his own echo. Maybe it's easy to tune microphones, but still no solution here.
Also have big problems with gps acuracy and position "jumps" while using google navigation in big cities with narrow streets.
Last, i would like to share my review of this model, it's in spanish but you can easily translate it
http://bitsandriffs.blogspot.com.es
Regards.
salimeldjinn said:
Hi Everyone, as this is my first post in this forum, I would like to say thanks to everyone involved for your efforts and good job, focused on helping the Internet Android community.
Second: I would like to thank Ouzo for pointing pros and problems actually ocurring to this model, maybe this helps on finding solution.
Third, i can say than spanish customers are finding problems with hands free during calls: The person at the other side of the line hears his own echo. Maybe it's easy to tune microphones, but still no solution here.
Also have big problems with gps acuracy and position "jumps" while using google navigation in big cities with narrow streets.
Last, i would like to share my review of this model, it's in spanish but you can easily translate it
http://bitsandriffs.blogspot.com.es
Regards.
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Thanks very much indeed. I'm just updating the first post. GPS accuracy is one of my issues too. It locks quickly but it often gets confused about what road you are on (I use co-pilot), even in fairly open spaces like motorway junctions. This is exactly like Qualcomm devices a few years ago. Have you tried any of the tweaked files available in the Jiayu ES app? I haven't yet, but I will.
I haven't tried hands free calling at all yet, only stereo Bluetooth. Have you tried tweaking any of the values available in the MTK Engineer mode/app? If you are not familiar with it there are various descriptions of what some of the parameters do around here somewhere.
Great review - it's interesting that we're both finding the same issues.
For the camera, I found setting sharpness to Max and turning off the beautification feature helps a little.
Doman said:
How come the buttons are not back lighted? I've asked two sellers and they claimed that buttons are back lighted. Are you sure? Maybe there is an option to enable?
Can you make a memory test with AndroBench application?
Thank you for a little review anyway. Keep us up to date with your experience and more observations with this phone.
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AndroBench results:
Internal SD card:
Sequential Read - 57.35 mb/s
Sequential Write - 16.83 mb/s
Random Read - 11.97 mb/s
SQLite Insert - 62.03 TPS
SQLite Update - 76.33 TPS
SQLite Delete - 79.68 TPS
Browser - 250 msec
Market - 223.25 msec
Camera - 255 msec
Camcorder - 566.75 msec
Data partition (phone storage) ext4:
Sequential Read - 57.66 mb/s
Sequential Write - 21.33
Random Read - 13.17
Random Write - 0.77
SqLite Insert - 68.04 TPS
SQLite Update - 77.76 TPS
SQLite Delete - 78.61 TPS
Browser - 79 msec
Market - 256 msec
Camera - 135.5 msec
Camcorder - 310.5 msec
From a more real world point of view, when I copy large amounts of data from my MicroSD card to internal memory, it writes large files at about 25 mb per second, and large quantities of smaller files at about 12 mb per second. Not exactly fast.
Software and loudspeaker call issues
Ouzo said:
Sorry, no, I haven't used any of these apps so I can't give any feedback.
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Yep, I imagine.
I've downloaded and re-installed the ROM provided by Jiayu.es, but the problems persists.
About Facebook: has anyone (or you, Andrés), tried to install it? Does it works smoothly to you or to anybody?
The suspect is simply that some libraries / platform are missing, it could be easily fixed just knowing which ones they are. Please, give a try to install facebook and let me know if it works fine for you, thanks!
Beside that, I can confirm that in Italy too (phone shipped from China) having a call in loudspeaker is giving the problem of echoing on the caller. As well, on this point looking for a solution.
Any hints on any missing libraries (for facebook, google agenda, firefox and other apps not working) and loudspeaker issue are welcome!:fingers-crossed:
Caller ID is fixed in new firmware (available on needrom).
avalanchej said:
Caller ID is fixed in new firmware (available on needrom).
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Awesome, thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I'll get a chance to try it in the next few days
Updated the first post with some more info/observations
My bad, there is still a problem with Caller ID in SMS app. But when someone calls it's ok.
avalanchej said:
My bad, there is still a problem with Caller ID in SMS app. But when someone calls it's ok.
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No worries, for a minute I thought the ROM had been compiled differently and the .jar.jex files had gone , then I realised everything is the same. Poop. No Xposed framework for us yet then.
Hi all. Could you please check if your rearspeaker makes noise when you are playing games with low volume or even without sound enabled. The noise is starting and stopping with apps/games that should make sound (also with video players, if you make video sound to silent, speaker still make little noise at my end)
Thanks for checking
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Hi all. Could you please check if your rearspeaker makes noise when you are playing games with low volume or even without sound enabled. The noise is starting and stopping with apps/games that should make sound (also with video players, if you make video sound to silent, speaker still make little noise at my end)
Thanks for checking
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Mine makes a slight hiss before and after a sound. For example, if I have a notification sound that is quiet, the rear speaker hisses for a second or so before playing the notification. If this is what you mean, then yes, I have the same thing. i can't check if this happens when the phone is on silent because I'm in a noisy environment, but I think it does what you describe.
Notifications also sound from the rear speaker when headphones are plugged in which really annoys me too (Samsung devices do this too).
Thanks for the confirmation ouzo. Are you running the stock rom or any other (miui for example). Would like to know if this is software related or if the soundchip is just buggy
Cheers
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Thanks for the confirmation ouzo. Are you running the stock rom or any other (miui for example). Would like to know if this is software related or if the soundchip is just buggy
Cheers
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I'm on the latest stock ROM available from Needrom. I think the same thing happened on the first two stock ROMs. Bear in mind that the kernel has been the same on all three versions, and possibly the various libs too. There are quite a few little bugs throughout the ROM, which is a shame. The biggest issue for me remains the performance of the camera. I'm still enjoying it though : )

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