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I took delivery of a Tesla Model 3 on March 30 of this year. At the time, it was running Tesla's software 2019.5.15, but within a day it had upgraded to 2019.8.4, then 2019.8.5, then 2019.12.1 a couple of days ago, and finally to 2019.12.1.1 today. Through all of this, I've had no problems with Bluetooth connections to my OnePlus 5t phone for media streaming; however, I have had problems with placing and receiving phone calls, and the problem has gotten worse with Tesla's 2019.12.1 or 2019.12.1.1 (I'm not sure which).
I never tried making phone calls in the day or so I had Tesla's 2019.5.15, but I did with 2019.8.x, with about a 50% success rate. Sometimes it would work fine, but other times I'd get very stuttery sound, as if the connection was cutting in and out about ten times per second. Initially, I was running LineageOS 15.1; however, in part because I hoped to resolve this problem, I updated my phone to LineageOS 16 about two weeks ago. That update did not fix the problem, unfortunately, but it also did not make it any worse.
Since my car has updated to 2019.12.1 or 2019.12.1.1, though, the problem has gotten worse: Now, when I try to place a call, at best I'll hear a brief click, short series of clicks, or beep, and then I get silence. When receiving a call, the phone rings, I hear a ring tone over the Tesla's audio system, and the Tesla's screen shows an incoming call. I can answer the call via the Tesla's screen, but again, I get no audio. Worse than all of this, sometimes, on both incoming and outgoing calls, the Tesla's screen has gone completely blank a few times. This isn't guaranteed to happen, but it's happened at least four times to me today as I've been testing things.
Some of what I've tried, with no success:
Adjusting volume settings on both the car and the phone
De-pairing the phone and the car, rebooting both, and then re-pairing them
Updating the phone to the very latest LineageOS build (lineage-16.0-20190428-nightly-dumpling-signed.zip)
Using "developer mode" Android options to adjust every Bluetooth option I could find (AVRCP version, audio codec, audio sample rate, bits per sample, channel mode [stereo vs. mono], LDAC codec)
Testing with both incoming and outgoing calls
This same phone works fine with a Bluetooth headset. On my previous car (a 2017 Chevy Volt), I had few problems, although on about 5% of the calls, I did experience the stuttering audio problem that kicked up to 50% frequency with the Tesla before it stopped working altogether.
I've gone to Tesla's Web site and used their "contact us" link to file a bug report (although there was no "bug report" option, so it may not get routed correctly).
Does anybody here have any other ideas of what I could do, short of replacing my phone or installing another Android version? (I'm really trying to avoid the pain of setting everything up again!)
srs5694 said:
I took delivery of a Tesla Model 3 on March 30 of this year. At the time, it was running Tesla's software 2019.5.15, but within a day it had upgraded to 2019.8.4, then 2019.8.5, then 2019.12.1 a couple of days ago, and finally to 2019.12.1.1 today. Through all of this, I've had no problems with Bluetooth connections to my OnePlus 5t phone for media streaming; however, I have had problems with placing and receiving phone calls, and the problem has gotten worse with Tesla's 2019.12.1 or 2019.12.1.1 (I'm not sure which).
I never tried making phone calls in the day or so I had Tesla's 2019.5.15, but I did with 2019.8.x, with about a 50% success rate. Sometimes it would work fine, but other times I'd get very stuttery sound, as if the connection was cutting in and out about ten times per second. Initially, I was running LineageOS 15.1; however, in part because I hoped to resolve this problem, I updated my phone to LineageOS 16 about two weeks ago. That update did not fix the problem, unfortunately, but it also did not make it any worse.
Since my car has updated to 2019.12.1 or 2019.12.1.1, though, the problem has gotten worse: Now, when I try to place a call, at best I'll hear a brief click, short series of clicks, or beep, and then I get silence. When receiving a call, the phone rings, I hear a ring tone over the Tesla's audio system, and the Tesla's screen shows an incoming call. I can answer the call via the Tesla's screen, but again, I get no audio. Worse than all of this, sometimes, on both incoming and outgoing calls, the Tesla's screen has gone completely blank a few times. This isn't guaranteed to happen, but it's happened at least four times to me today as I've been testing things.
Some of what I've tried, with no success:
Adjusting volume settings on both the car and the phone
De-pairing the phone and the car, rebooting both, and then re-pairing them
Updating the phone to the very latest LineageOS build (lineage-16.0-20190428-nightly-dumpling-signed.zip)
Using "developer mode" Android options to adjust every Bluetooth option I could find (AVRCP version, audio codec, audio sample rate, bits per sample, channel mode [stereo vs. mono], LDAC codec)
Testing with both incoming and outgoing calls
This same phone works fine with a Bluetooth headset. On my previous car (a 2017 Chevy Volt), I had few problems, although on about 5% of the calls, I did experience the stuttering audio problem that kicked up to 50% frequency with the Tesla before it stopped working altogether.
I've gone to Tesla's Web site and used their "contact us" link to file a bug report (although there was no "bug report" option, so it may not get routed correctly).
Does anybody here have any other ideas of what I could do, short of replacing my phone or installing another Android version? (I'm really trying to avoid the pain of setting everything up again!)
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Hello again from TMF (turok3000) . Can confirm I see exactly the same as you (lineage 16.0 + tesla 2019.12.1.1).
I would say you're best off posting here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development/rom-lineageos-16-0-pie-oneplus-5t-t3843026
Do you happen to have tried with latest stock oxygenos ? I'm guessing not since you mention not wanting setup hassle (I'm in a similar situation).
Thanks for the suggestion of posting in another thread. I've done so, with a few updates.
I did back up the phone and tried installing stock OxygenOS as a test; however, the installation went badly -- it hung with a spinning logo on first boot. Thus, I restored my (mostly) working configuration. I may give it another try later, but there's only so much time I can invest in this sort of thing each day.
Any luck with this? I also have a Tesla Model 3 and the same exact problem as you. I'm using crDroid but it is largely based on LineageOS.
Maybe there is something I can try? I messed with all the dev options for bluetooth.
I've worked around it by re-installing OnePlus's OxygenOS. I'd prefer LineageOS or something else more open, but for the moment, switching to OxygenOS seems like the only solution. A caveat: I haven't tried any recent build (from the last month or so). It's conceivable it's been fixed and I just don't know it yet. Also, some others, using OnePlus phones other than the 5t (IIRC, the OnePlus 6 and/or 3) report that reverting to OxygenOS does not help them. If you've got a 5t, though, reverting to OxygenOS, although a nuisance, may be worth trying. There's a thread tracking the problem on a Tesla forum here:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bluetooth-problems-on-phone-calls-only.150774/
The problem is common on LineageOS for multiple phones, but it also occurs on some other phones, even including some iPhones. At least one unofficial LineageOS build is not affected; but that build may have been tweaked or rely on proprietary drivers. Overall, then, it looks like more of a Tesla problem than a phone problem, but it's hard to be sure without digging into the code and running diagnostics that I'm not competent to do.
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I've worked around it by re-installing OnePlus's OxygenOS. I'd prefer LineageOS or something else more open, but for the moment, switching to OxygenOS seems like the only solution. A caveat: I haven't tried any recent build (from the last month or so). It's conceivable it's been fixed and I just don't know it yet. Also, some others, using OnePlus phones other than the 5t (IIRC, the OnePlus 6 and/or 3) report that reverting to OxygenOS does not help them. If you've got a 5t, though, reverting to OxygenOS, although a nuisance, may be worth trying. There's a thread tracking the problem on a Tesla forum here:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bluetooth-problems-on-phone-calls-only.150774/
The problem is common on LineageOS for multiple phones, but it also occurs on some other phones, even including some iPhones. At least one unofficial LineageOS build is not affected; but that build may have been tweaked or rely on proprietary drivers. Overall, then, it looks like more of a Tesla problem than a phone problem, but it's hard to be sure without digging into the code and running diagnostics that I'm not competent to do.
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Ah well thanks for getting back. That is disheartening, as I had been using OOS since I got the phone on release day & finally thought I should try something different. It sounds like I'm gonna have to go through all the efforts to revert back to OOS.
For reference, it did not work for me using crDroid builds from 6/23/19 and 6/30/19.
I'll use Tesla's feedback system to put my "vote" in towards fixing these bluetooth issues.
My Model 3 received an update yesterday to 2019.24.4 and the Bluetooth calling works! Just thought you should know. I'll cross post on TMC.
It was working just fine. I was listening to YouTube while I was doing other things over a Bluetooth device. Stopped YouTube, put it in my pocket, and ate dinner. Went to walk my dog, and it wouldn't play any audio. When I went to call someone to check, I only had "Speaker" as an option along with Bluetooth. I tried my Bluetooth stack by toggling it off, and rebooting the device. When stock Android 11 came up, got at System UI error after unlock. Hoped it was a glitch and turned on Bluetooth, it reconnected, but no audio, and mic doesn't pick up volume. Turned it off, did a reboot and had the headphones turned off also. got the System UI error and it doesn't show any option for audio on call for anything but Speaker. Thought crap, did a Factory format, same. Reinstalled via ADB the same version, same issue and still had the System UI crash on unlock.
Did a wipe back down to 8.0, and I didn't verify the phone worked first, but no system UI crash. Installed 10.0, and no crash on System UI, but only had speaker. Updated to latest 11.0 with the updates, and it got the System UI errors each time. I'm rolling back to 8.0 right now to verify, but I am flummoxed. Everything else works, but I have no phone option and get system UI Crashes. When I call, it vibrates, but no audio when I pickup or when I speak into the mic (used a land line to verify). Since it is Out of Support I had been considering getting a new phone, but this was still viable until today (wish Google had released a 5XL). I'm going to go back to 8.0 and test, also going to test a ROM (not sure what would be recommended, been happy with vanilla for a while, but loved Paranoid Android way back in the day on my Samsung stupid long named Nexus powered by Sprint).
But in the event that 8.0 does work, does anyone have any ideas on how to get audio to work again on a more modern android?
Sorry for the ramble, but I'm seriously confused, and it is late.
An issue like yours, that suddenly appears and persists regardless of the version of Android installed is not a good sign. In general, if it were a firmware issue you were having it should disappear upon a clean install of Android. Thus, assuming Android 8.0 doesn't work, and I don't think it will, the only answer left from my perspective is a hardware problem.
As for wishing there was a Pixel 5 XL, the 4a with 5G would fill the bill. Its screen is larger, albeit only 60Hz, and in day-to-day use it's going to sound better than the Pixel 5. The 5 taking a page from the Sharp Aquos and vibrating the entire screen to produce sound isn't something you see every day, and there's a good reason for that.
Just curious to see what people use this tablet for these days. I'm trying to find a good use for mine and am coming to the conclusion that if you want what has features its going to come with issues. But Lineage is quite fast just no features.
Curious on others opinions!
Having installed a12 I was disappointed with its work (compared to stock a6). The rom works fine (except for quick settings, the curtain always lags) until additional programs are installed
Then disappointed in the A12, I decided to switch to the A11, namely the OFFICIAL latest CRDROID. It also started to work worse when a bunch of programs I needed appeared, but not so, it could be in use. However, when I tried to listen to music all night because of him, he was unloading Spotify (he seems to have serious problems with working with RAM. Of course, another reason is 2 GB of RAM)
I also had a strange bug that the tablet completely hung, and after restarting the ROM broke. The blind did not want to open completely, there were problems with the software.
As a result, I returned to a12, put fewer programs, tried to configure the kernel, the system to be more or less comfortable to use it. Of course, this is not the level of a6 or a9, but if you want Something new, cool design, why not.
In my opinion, it is better to use the 9-11 android, as well as install the kernel with overclocking, it is very necessary here.
I'm still new to using this device, so I haven't used much ROM, but it's probably in the future
From here ... > ... The best
No need to look at a high Android!
erdar said:
Having installed a12 I was disappointed with its work (compared to stock a6). The rom works fine (except for quick settings, the curtain always lags) until additional programs are installed
Then disappointed in the A12, I decided to switch to the A11, namely the OFFICIAL latest CRDROID. It also started to work worse when a bunch of programs I needed appeared, but not so, it could be in use. However, when I tried to listen to music all night because of him, he was unloading Spotify (he seems to have serious problems with working with RAM. Of course, another reason is 2 GB of RAM)
I also had a strange bug that the tablet completely hung, and after restarting the ROM broke. The blind did not want to open completely, there were problems with the software.
As a result, I returned to a12, put fewer programs, tried to configure the kernel, the system to be more or less comfortable to use it. Of course, this is not the level of a6 or a9, but if you want Something new, cool design, why not.
In my opinion, it is better to use the 9-11 android, as well as install the kernel with overclocking, it is very necessary here.
I'm still new to using this device, so I haven't used much ROM, but it's probably in the future
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CrDroid isn't broken but it does have an odd systemUi bug likely to the system partition and other things being so outdated. Whenever restarting the tablet it will continue to respring until it decides to boot the best way to handle this is just to leave it be I've found that more often then not it will eventually start up, other times it refuses to start at all and I will have to reboot again most times I try to refrain from turning it off. Unfortunately this seems like the only way to get good features for this tablet. Wishing someone would take interest like forkLineage or EvoX perhaps
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"CrDroid isn't broken but it does have an odd systemUi bug ....."
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I agree, although I prefer pixel experience (and the like).
As for the CRDROID ... My problem was that the curtain does not open, and many programs were not launched, and there was an arrow in the bar, which is displayed only when the navigation bar is two Buttons, and I had gestures enabled) Very strange, actually. It's funny that it all started after the ROM crashed .. I still wanted to try at least lineage 18.1, but after reinstalling a12 I'm too lazy
Running unofficial LineageOS 17.1. I don't really use the tablet or anything really. My touch screen doesn't really work, along with the tilt sensor. It's really slow which is to be expected. I use my Fire 7 since it's faster and less frustrating to use.
I pulled my old nexus out from the cupboard a few weeks ago and was amazed that the battery still had decent life after yrs not being used. I managed to unlock bootloader and install twrp before the micro USB charging port stopped working. I now have DotOS android 9 installed and am using the nexus as my eReader, charging via Qi wireless
Hello people,
I was wondering if there is someone out there daily driving the latest LineageOS build on their OP9Pro, who could tell me if it runs smoothly and whether there are any major bugs or inconveniences. I am thinking about flashing LineageOS on my device, but I am still uncertain if it is worth the hassle, as I rely on the phone working properly and with all/most of the features.
However I wasn't able to find much information about known issues or user reports.
I used to flash CyanogenMod on my own devices when it used to be relevant so I have a little bit of experience regarding flashing.
What I would like to know:
- Hardware working? (5G, Bluetooth, Wifi, NFC, Cameras, fingerprint, alert slider etc)
- Do all apps still work? (Banking, Netflix, GPay etc.)
- Does VoLTE/VoWifi work? (spec. German carrier T-Mobile)
- How is the update process? (OTA via system updater?)
- Major problems or known issues as stated above
I am really unsatisfied with the current state of OxygenOS (stock rom) as there are many bugs that probably won't be fixed, which is why I am looking into custom Roms again.
Also I own the EU version of the phone if relevant.
Thank you for your answers
Hi,
In case you're still wondering:
I just bought a used OnePlus 9 Pro with LIneageOS 19.1 installed.
- All of the hardware works (except I have not tested NFC - I don't use it.)
- I did not install microG or anything to use Goolge apps, I only use apps from F-Droid, so sorry I can't help you there. I don't know if any of your required apps will work.
- Phone calls work on WiFi Calling and the 4G/5G networks on USA T-Mobile service.
- OTA updates work fine.
- The only issue I have is that the Android 12 Desktop Mode doesn't work (the launcher button and two navigation buttons show up on the monitor, but they don't do anything. On my OnePlus 7 Pro with LineageOS 18.1, Android 11 Desktop Mode works pretty well.
Yes, thanks for the reply. I think i will wait for the upcoming Oxygen13, but I don't actually have high hopes for it being good. If I'll be disappointed with the update I'm likely going to flash LineageOS, as I am annoyed by the integration of Oppo's ColorOs into Oxygen, while there are still so many bugs and inconsistent UI.
akaYunus said:
Yes, thanks for the reply. I think i will wait for the upcoming Oxygen13, but I don't actually have high hopes for it being good. If I'll be disappointed with the update I'm likely going to flash LineageOS, as I am annoyed by the integration of Oppo's ColorOs into Oxygen, while there are still so many bugs and inconsistent UI.
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My pleasure. Good luck!
Daily driving it for several months now and so far so good. The only issue I sometimes have, is that I press the power button and the screen turns black (still giving haptic feedback, but shows nothing on the screen.) I need to force reboot to fix this.
But it performs waaaaaaay better then ColorOS / "Oxygen OS" and read that the beta is again full of bloat.
I did install Gapps with this and works like a charm (thought I've picked Pico)
Hope this will help you with your choice
Dn_nS said:
Daily driving it for several months now and so far so good. The only issue I sometimes have, is that I press the power button and the screen turns black (still giving haptic feedback, but shows nothing on the screen.) I need to force reboot to fix this.
But it performs waaaaaaay better then ColorOS / "Oxygen OS" and read that the beta is again full of bloat.
I did install Gapps with this and works like a charm (thought I've picked Pico)
Hope this will help you with your choice
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Yes, thank you aswell. I'm certainly going to install Gapps. Can you confirm that NFC/GPay is working? I rely on that as my main payment method.
Dn_nS said:
Daily driving it for several months now and so far so good. The only issue I sometimes have, is that I press the power button and the screen turns black (still giving haptic feedback, but shows nothing on the screen.) I need to force reboot to fix this.
But it performs waaaaaaay better then ColorOS / "Oxygen OS" and read that the beta is again full of bloat.
I did install Gapps with this and works like a charm (thought I've picked Pico)
Hope this will help you with your choice
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Hmmm, I have never run into that power button issue. That is annoying!
akaYunus said:
Yes, thank you aswell. I'm certainly going to install Gapps. Can you confirm that NFC/GPay is working? I rely on that as my main payment method.
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Sorry man, don't use Gpay and did not use NFC thus far.
So far, LOS 19.1 has been running like a dream on my 9 Pro. The only complaint I have is that calls using Bluetooth audio have a "stutter" effect, like the sound has little micro-dropouts; it's annoying enough that I try to avoid Bluetooth calls, but not so much that I can't put up with it if I have to. (Bluetooth music isn't affected, it's as smooth as lake ice.) I'm hoping we'll see a fix eventually.
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So far, LOS 19.1 has been running like a dream on my 9 Pro. The only complaint I have is that calls using Bluetooth audio have a "stutter" effect, like the sound has little micro-dropouts; it's annoying enough that I try to avoid Bluetooth calls, but not so much that I can't put up with it if I have to. (Bluetooth music isn't affected, it's as smooth as lake ice.) I'm hoping we'll see a fix eventually.
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That's fine as long as it doesn't affect wireless AndroidAuto. If anybody has experience with using it and maybe even with an AAWireless device I'd like to know as well. I have a 1st gen unit I use everyday while driving.
I'm running the version bundled with microg and am quite happy. It's a lot better than the last release of 18.1 that I was on in terms of battery life. I don't game, so I have no idea about it in that regard.
I've been running LOS 19.1 for about two weeks now, but must say I'm not all too happy with it:
- bluetooth calling (using wired android auto) audio quality is very poor, both ways (so for me and the person I'm calling with)
- fingerprint unlock works, but the 'scan area' seems to be more finicky. it often quickly switches to number based unlock. never had that with oos
- the battery life is considerably poorer for me
- the device gets much hotter while charging
- I've once had the top right part of my screen becoming unresponsive. only a reboot fixed that.
GoeniGoeGoe said:
I've been running LOS 19.1 for about two weeks now, but must say I'm not all too happy with it:
- bluetooth calling (using wired android auto) audio quality is very poor, both ways (so for me and the person I'm calling with)
- fingerprint unlock works, but the 'scan area' seems to be more finicky. it often quickly switches to number based unlock. never had that with oos
- the battery life is considerably poorer for me
- the device gets much hotter while charging
- I've once had the top right part of my screen becoming unresponsive. only a reboot fixed that.
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That's sad to hear but maybe it will be fixed in future updates.
Still might give it a try in the near future. Does the version of the device matter? (EU, US or international)
Gpay works great on lineage
akaYunus said:
Yes, thank you aswell. I'm certainly going to install Gapps. Can you confirm that NFC/GPay is working? I rely on that as my main payment method.
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Can confirm, though I did install a fork of magisk to get it to work
So, to summarize answers:
- "everything is fine, but I don't use nfc, gapps, banking apps. Bet everything else is fine"
- battery is worse than on Oxygen
- fingerprint sensor works, but it works worse
- "charging works, but, phone is hot. I don't use fast charging and fast wireless charging but yeah charging works, I am able to charge my phone"
- Google Pay works, but actually it does not work, you need "patched Magisk"
Can I ask additional questions?
- can I use all cameras and switch camera during movie recording?
- can I take heic photos?
- can I record 8k movie?
Ok all, I'm getting quite frustrated with my P6P. Was on A12 and sideloaded the OTA for 13 Beta 4.1. I didn't want to lose any data but also didn't want to enroll in the beta program which would have pushed the OTA anyway.
Beta was working but definitely noticed a hit to battery life at first and some weird things like running warmer, phone being warm just sitting on the pixel stand fully charged, just generally not feeling right. The good news was, it seemed to have gotten a little better over the next few days of use but still not great so when I saw stable A13 released last week, instead of going back to 12, I committed to using the Android flash tool and fully flashing A13.
After flash, I chose to restore my Google One / Drive backup and omg the battery life was completely abysmal and running hot. We are talking losing 20% per hour of light usage, standby was losing 10%+ per hour and wasn't going into deep sleep at all. I thought at first it was my Galaxy Watch4 and the Samsung health app causing the majority of the issues but when I disabled "activity tracking" on the app, it didn't fully resolve the issues.
Other issues include: taking phone out of my pocket, screen sometimes doesn't wake up (I remember this was an issue with A12 but G eventually acknowledged and fixed but I guess it's back), connected via Bluetooth to my car (no Android auto) the ring tone is no longer playing when I get a call, generally feeling not as smooth, weird system usages showing up in accubattery and the Android battery manager as using good chunks of battery, etc.
At this point I got another idea: reflash A13 but don't restore from backup (which I hate doing because then I have to go through every single setting to find stuff I changed and set it again both in the system and on apps). It seems like that helped a little with stand by battery drain but still seems to be draining at a higher level while in use. The issue of screen not waking up sometimes is still present and now, I just saw this morning that I tap on the Google Play System Updates within the security menu and it does nothing. I was able to get into it yesterday morning and it found an update (still says July 1 though) but I didn't reboot to complete it until this morning. Now I can't get into it anymore at all. I also found some weird folders in my DCIM folder and another one that referenced icloud and iphone transfers but I've never been an iphone user.
I'm so frustrated with this phone lately and it seems like no matter what I do, I cannot get it to work right with multiple little things as well as battery drain.
Am I the only one? And if not, anyone have any ideas on how to fix my issues? Is it time to contact Google for an RMA? I was one of the launch day orders so I don't know if my specific hardware is the issue. I am now locked in to 13 bc of the bootloader thing, I didn't manually flash the BL to both slots, only used official flash tool which you'd think of this was a critical thing, Google would do that with the flash tool but I guess they can't get their left hand to recognize what the right hand is doing.
Just typing this post on Chrome browser for 10 mins, burned through 4% battery.
You're not the only one...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wddk1s
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You're not the only one...
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Thanks for that reddit article but that's not exactly answering my questions. Yes I know I'm not the only one who's had battery issues and I've gone through all those steps up to and including reflashing cleanly and wiping.
What about the other stuff I'm having issues with? Anybody else experience any of those issues? Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
Essentially I'm debating on wiping again and/or reloading the OS again but if others are having the same or similar issues then it may just be Google being Google and releasing a buggy build (yet again).
Side note, I also just got a notification that Google One backup is currently running and to tap for more info but yet, I don't have it plugged it nor is the phone idle. It is on wifi though but I tapped the notification and nothing was happening. It said the last backup was at 3:37am. Also, I am now down another 10% of battery since posting this with barely any usage.
Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
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I've had no issues with 13 but didn't have any on 12 either. Day one phone too.
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Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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I did what I thought was starting fresh the last time around (Sunday). Used the official flash tool and didn't restore anything from backup. All I did was add my Gmail accounts and then manually downloaded every app I use and then tried to set all the settings again in both system and apps to how I like them. Is there something I'm missing? Is there a difference between the pixel repair tool and the Android flash tool? What about the settings that are flash tool? I have them set to wipe, lock, and force flash everything. Not sure if that exists on pixel repair tool. I've also noticed a fairly large reduction in size of the backup that occured last night with the apps section showing only 44 apps at about 11.7MB in size when my previous backup was 60 apps at about 48.2MB. I'm thinking of just wiping/reflashing again for the 3rd time but restoring from backup this time since it really didn't make much difference.
How about the Google play system up bug thing? Can someone tap on it and see if it comes up checking for an update or if it does nothing like me. And when I say nothing, just the menu option to tap on just lights up but doesn't open anything. How about the issue with the screen not waking up if taken out of your pocket?
For what it's worth, I haven't started from scratch since I accidentally did last December (after originally setting my phone up in late October or in November). I used the Android 13 factory image over top of my existing install without wiping.
I'm under the impression that yes, there is a difference between the Pixel Repair Tool and the Android Flash Tool, but I've never actually used the Pixel Repair Tool. I know the first several months, at least, the Pixel Repair Tool hadn't yet been updated to work with the Pixel 6 Pro. It may have been updated since then, I just don't know for sure.
When I have wiped/factory reset in the past six years (starting with my Pixel 1), I always restore all or almost all data from Google's backup. I do have Swift Backup do automatic nightly backups as well, but I only restore data (through Swift Backup) for the apps that I really need to - definitely not very many.
Your settings for the Android Flash Tool sound fine.
Is the "Google Play System Up(date) bug where clicking on it doesn't do anything? If so, it doesn't do anything for me, either. Mine doesn't even light up, but I have dark mode on, plus using Pitch Black theme from AOSP mods.
I rarely have my phone in my pocket, so it probably just doesn't come up often enough for me to have noticed, so I can't confirm one way or the other.
Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
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jrg67 said:
Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Google Play Store v31.9.20-21 is rolling out and will fix that Play System Updates "bug".
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Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Here's another weird one.. apparently now I can't keep my phone on vibrate while in the car. For a test, I turned my ringer on and then tested it again.. low and behold, it rang through the speakers in my car. This is trash. I know Android enabled in-band Bluetooth audio years ago and I recall this same thing happening way back with my nexus 6p and each pixel I've had but this one. There was a setting in developer settings to turn that off which fixed it and allowed it to work correctly but with this phone, it worked out of the box so I never thought twice about it. I just checked the dev settings and it's nowhere to be found. I have no idea what A13 could have done to screw that up nor do I know if the dev setting even existed on this phone prior to A13. I just don't get it. I guess I could see if there's any updates to my car's multimedia system but I have an Audi and any software updates come from the dealer for a price. How dumb. I guess I'll be scouring the Audi forums for a fix on that.
Meh, the Google Play Store updates are irrelevant to me. So no worries there on my part, haha. But this phone's battery life has been rather questionable. I have, however, noticed that after being on the full A13 build for around a week or so and disabling 5G from the get-go that my battery now lasts MUCH longer. My phone does not seem to generate as much heat either - which is always a plus. But I also seem to have more phone/messaging reliability than I have had in the past with this device.
I am beginning to think that the modem and 5G has had the most to do with this phone's imperfections.
Also - for OP - but I have noticed that my phone often doesn't wake up with a single tap either - but only when the gyroscope stays mostly stationary for a longer period of time. When I pull the phone out of my pocket, it usually comes on with one tap. But if it has been sitting on a table or other mostly flat surface for a while, it takes two taps to wake the display.
Ultimately, I won't be getting the Pixel 7 Pro. I will, however, be getting the Pixel Fold which should launch at around the same time =).
I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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Well, aside from the bugs issue, as time goes on, more and more you need something besides what it ships with in order to actually have security and privacy. Google has fallen a very long way from the openness and respect that they once promised. The final straw for me was when they started working with governments to include and share covid contact tracing functionality.
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Apparently the 4th complete wipe and OS flash was apparently the trick to fix the majority of my phone's issues. I did restore from my backup this time because the last time that I started from scratch, it made no difference. I figured if it's still going to be buggy, I may as well have all my info and settings correct. It's now been about 24 hours. See below for status of my issues.
1. Massive battery drain - fixed for the most part. Still have to restrict Samsung Health app but for the most part, it seems to be back to normal.
2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
3. Play system update button broken - already found this wasn't an A13 bug. I still haven't gotten the fixed update of playstore but before this latest wipe and OS flash, I sideloaded the latest version and it fixed it.
4. Connected to Bluetooth in car no longer plays ringers out loud. - Weird one as I think this is part A13 because Google baked in a new BT stack that's been in development since A11 called gabeldorsche https://www.androidpolice.com/android-gabeldorsche-bluetooth-stack/ and partly my infotainment system in my car. I am not on the current version of the car's infotainment but since my car is a '14 Audi, it doesn't have OTA updates.
5. Heating up during normal use - seems to be fixed
6. Warm while on the pixel stand and fully charged - haven't been able to observe this one bc last night, I put the phone on the stand and by morning it was at 72% and not charging. No clue if that's a new bug or if it was just not sitting on there just right. Didn't really look into it but we'll see what happens tonight.
So that seems to be the majority. Overall the phone doesn't feel "weird" anymore and most things I was having trouble with appear to be resolved. Sort of ridiculous that I had to wipe and reload the OS 4 times though.
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2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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This one still may be around for me but perhaps not as severe as it was during the first 2 times I loaded 13. I just experienced it about an hour ago. Took phone out of my pocket to place on my desk at work and screen was black but the AOD did eventually come on by itself after about 10 long seconds. We'll see what happens.