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[Q] Note 4 CPO/Factory Unlocked for $489 on VZW

I just saw that Verizon is now selling certified pre-owned Note 4's for a 30% discount on their website.
They note this is a factory unlocked version. Does this mean the bootloader is unlocked and thus could be rooted?
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mainebluedevil said:
I just saw that Verizon is now selling certified pre-owned Note 4's for a 30% discount on their website.
They note this is a factory unlocked version. Does this mean the bootloader is unlocked and thus could be rooted?
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No, is Sim unlocked. Great price though

Avoid Verizon pre-owned phones at all costs. Save yourself the headache.

nh97103 said:
Avoid Verizon pre-owned phones at all costs. Save yourself the headache.
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Agreed

oneandroidnut said:
Agreed
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What are you basing this on?

mchlwvr614 said:
What are you basing this on?
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because CPO are as their name says preowned and they always have issues as stated

The deal is back on. I've gotten warranty replacements in the past that were CPO and they were always fine.

Pixel Phone on Verizon

So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?

Wow, that is expensive... and sold out...
Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).
Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!
Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.
-J

scrillakev said:
So with the Pixel phone being sold through Verizon here in the US, do you think this phone will be fully unlocked if bought from them?
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Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.

Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?
In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?

No1ustad said:
Is there any downsides from purchasing from google vs Verizon? Will we get access to the same LTE bands, etc.?
In the past, have google versions of phones have come with unlocked bootloaders but verizon come with locked versions of the same devices?
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Given the way the past Nexus devices (that included support for Verizon and were eventually sold through them) the answer is no. They use the exact same hardware presumably. But until we start seeing model numbers confirmed it could be a possibility. But the unlocked version will support Verizon and it will have Google as your main access for support (which has been good to some people in the past).
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Jsunn said:
Wow, that is expensive... and sold out...
Didn't get one, but want the 128 GB (though I wish they offered a 64GB).
Add the protection plan for another $100, sitting at close to $1000!
Holy cow... I am going to need to sell a kidney.
-J
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Keep trying and clicking in different orders. Like adding the 128GB before the color, size, etc. I managed to snag one that way. BE PERSISTENT!

M9guy said:
Being it's Verizon I would say very likely but I am sure it will get cracked at least until new updates remember this is Verizon your talking about they love to be in control of things that they have no right to be. Easy fix don't buy from Verizon buy from Google or if you can buy from HTC as they will treat you better in the long run like the $100 in free accessories they gave the HTC 10 buyers after we got an extra free USB-C charge cable months before and maybe uh oh protection might be included too but that is hoping lol.
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The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.
I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7.

scrillakev said:
The only reason I'd consider buying it straight from Verizon is because it would be added onto my bill in which my job would end up paying for my phone. If I buy it from the PlayStore i'd have to buy it on my own.
I think I'm going to end up with a Note 7.
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I'm in that boat as well, work will pay for my phone if I get it through Verizon. Here's hoping that I can in some way sell the Verizon phone NIB and buy the unlocked one.

If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.

bsg411 said:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
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Pre-order either Pixel model from today through October 19th and Verizon will send you a redemption code for a free Daydream view.
Will likely be bootloader locked.

bsg411 said:
If you get it from Verizon they are offering the promotion 2 year contract again exclusively for this phone. So you can get the pixel 128gb for like $300....but it might be bootloader locked and you won't get the free vr headset promo the Google store is offering right now.
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All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.

That bootloader lock kills the deal
.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
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M9guy said:
All I see on their web site is the payment plan and the option to pay full retail price and I looked all over Verizon's web site and I cannot see the contract option for either pixel phone. Can you provide a link to where you found it please, thanks.
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My coworker told me about the 2 year promo...I didn't actually see it myself. He is currently at the end if a 2 year promo so maybe that has something to do with it??

Oh that's it. Anyone on a contract can keep getting new contracts like that. But new customers cannot get a contract from Verizon directly. You can still get service through Verizon with a new contract and subsidised phone you just have to purchase the Verizon service through dealers like best buy and target I know they both list new Verizon service with a contract where you get the phone subsidised instead of a payment plan or paying full retail price for the phone.
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stinger4321 said:
That bootloader lock kills the deal
.. guess my nexus 6 lives on
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Someone will probably figure out a way to unlock it. You could just wait it out and you might get a better deal waiting also.

Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.

moosc said:
Android police has already confirmed the verizon bootloader will be locked.
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What he said!!

TechBSwift said:
What he said!!
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I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.

Virus1x said:
I wouldn't be too worried Dev's enjoy pissing off Big Red I'm sure it'll be cracked.
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Yeah, but it took well over a year to unlock the verizon S5 (at least. I hadn't looked for another year, so it might have been over 2). It'll be cracked Eventually but how long will it take

I'm not too worried about the bootloader being locked as I've stopped rooting my phones and flashing ROMS but I just need to know if the Verizon model has all the bands to work properly on t-mobile. I have 2 sims and need to confirm this.

Bootloader is definitely locked. Saw this question/answer on the VZW Page this morning for the Pixel XL.

I just preordered the pixel xl from best buy and extended my contract with Verizon. Does anybody know if the version they carry is the same as Verizon's or the unlocked version in the play store?
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honest opinion please.

I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?

You should buy it from Google Store, that's an honest opinion.

egren58 said:
I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
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I would say no but maybe one day

egren58 said:
I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
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Highly unlikely I would guess. I think you can get it from the google store tho and have it activated on verizon network still, from what I have read. That version would come ready to be unlocked.

frch0603 said:
Highly unlikely I would guess. I think you can get it from the google store tho and have it activated on verizon network still, from what I have read. That version would come ready to be unlocked.
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I am not even on Verizon . lol I'm on tmbile but Google rep said about a month until they go back up for sale. There is one on craiglist for 1,000$ for 32 GB idk if I should make the move or not.

egren58 said:
I am not even on Verizon . lol I'm on tmbile but Google rep said about a month until they go back up for sale. There is one on craiglist for 1,000$ for 32 GB idk if I should make the move or not.
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I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.

frch0603 said:
I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
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Is factory unlocked from my end

Negotiating a 32gb google edition..

frch0603 said:
I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
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Why wouldn't you buy a "Verizon version with expectation of using it on another carrier"?
I bought a Verizon version last night from Best Buy (im not really worried about unlocking the bootloader at this point. Been doing it for years lol ) and put my T-Mobile sim card in and it worked immediately.
All these Google Pixel phones are carrier unlocked. Every single one. The only difference is that the Verizon version currently cannot be Bootloader unlocked, but I'm sure it will someday.

I would say buy from google if you really want to have an unlocked bootloader. I wont say it will never be unlocked but i think there will be very few working on it for the simple fact that you can buy an unlocked version. I would have bought it from google but it was more cost effective for me to buy it from Verizon.

Honest opinion = It is highly unlikely!

Most likely not since there is an google verison that comes with an unlocked bootloader for the same price.

I'm with verizon but bought it from the Google store. I am thinking about switching carriers sometime soon so I don't want to be stuck with monthly payments from Verizon on a device that won't be used on their carrier. That's why I did Google finance. Plus I already give too much money to Verizon each month. Bootloader being unlocked or not doesn't bother me but some people will want root and one day I may root and I want that option.

Yeahci will just wait till its available again. I'm on tmobile and I will never leave. Lol I only pay 50$ for unlimited everything

egren58 said:
Yeahci will just wait till its available again. I'm on tmobile and I will never leave. Lol I only pay 50$ for unlimited everything
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Same here. My wife is on Verizon and I looked at adding a line. If I buy it outright (pixel xl) I don't get the big credit for my V10, only fair market value and I don't get the free data bump either. At the end of the day, staying with T-Mobile with unlimited data just makes sense

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Same here. My wife is on Verizon and I looked at adding a line. If I buy it outright (pixel xl) I don't get the big credit for my V10, only fair market value and I don't get the free data bump either. At the end of the day, staying with T-Mobile with unlimited data just makes sense
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Yeah man ilove being grandfather in. I scanned a copy of my original contract, and a few times they tried to switch my plans to the new jump and I was like nope I have a SIGNED contract. Lol LOVE IT!! also I can't get throttle after using 20+ gigs of data.

Never buy a phone for what it MIGHT do in the future.
If you need root/unlocked bootloader buy a phone that already has that.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

So I will let the hypedye down now I'll just stick to 7.1.1 on the 6p. And than I'll sell my 6p and op3 to buy the xl in the coming months.

It seems there are too many Verizon models running around now that somehow came with an unlockable bootloader.... makes me think there is a better chance at the devs finding a way. Mostly just a hunch but....
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Will an at&t sim in verizon model prevent software updates?

broke my pixel

I broke my pixel XL last night, I slipped and fell on the ice and landed on my phone in jacket pocket and bent my phone. Now no wifi or Bluetooth everything else works so it is not a worst case scenario. My question is when I get a new one will it have the latest update? I am hoping that I can unlock it.

I saw a thread on here where a guy was trying to get a pixel XL warrantied through Google . I wonder if I should try that.

It depends when the phone was factory sealed. If its after the update then you will have the newest update, otherwise not.

Get a replacement from verizon, sell it as NEW (resale) on swappa, then purchase a google version. Just my .2cents

eliteness47 said:
Get a replacement from verizon, sell it as NEW (resale) on swappa, then purchase a google version. Just my .2cents
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That is a great idea.

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That is a great idea.
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If you get a replacement through Verizon you must have insurance right? Which would be with Asurion. It will be a refurbished device which is no big deal.. and it should more than likely be on 7.1.
The box isn't sealed in any way so now reason not to open it. I would open it, take sim out, skip WiFi during setup, and then unlock right away. Lots of people have been receiving new from Verizon this week and every one of them was still on the Oct security update.

Can I still unlock 7.1?

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Can I still unlock 7.1?
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Yes

Just got my replacement and it is 7.1.1

You got it from Asuron the insurance or did verizon themselves send you a replacement and you shipped yours back to them ?

M9guy said:
You got it from Asuron the insurance or did verizon themselves send you a replacement and you shipped yours back to them ?
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From Verizon and I send mine back. Refurb

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From Verizon and I send mine back. Refurb
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Oh thats why. As the other guy said people getting theirs replaced by Asuron were getting a replacement that came with the Oct security update as its latest software. So if you had yours replaced by insurance you would probably be able to use depixel8 to unlock the bootloader.

How much did it cost to replace through asurion?

presence_unknown said:
How much did it cost to replace through asurion?
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I think its a $149.00 co pay. Unless they raised it, which is possible since these pixel xl's are more expensive than previous models of comparable phones.

Question Where to buy financed

guys - I'm a current post-paid verizon customer and need to buy a pixel 6 pro to be financed over 24 months. Is there another place apart from verizon to buy this phone with unlocked bootloader and no bloatware but still have the monthly payment show up on my verizon bill? Last time I did this at target but they often don't carry the latest phones in time
As a side question, does anybody know how thick is the bulge from the zoom camera?
Thanks

To be sure of an unlocked bootloader and use it on Verizon I think your only option is buy direct from Google and use their store financing. That won't show up on your Verizon bill.

What's the worst thing with a locked bootloader. I don't root phones anymore and don't do custom ROMs. Will the resale value be affected with a locked bootloader?

Also has google confirmed if google photos is included for free

sam008 said:
Also has google confirmed if google photos is included for free
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No. Photos aren't included anymore since the Pixel 4 launch.

sam008 said:
What's the worst thing with a locked bootloader. I don't root phones anymore and don't do custom ROMs. Will the resale value be affected with a locked bootloader?
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No, that's a natural state. You must unlock the BL if you want it that way. The question is does the company allow the bootloader to be unlocked. Some company's do not.

sam008 said:
guys - I'm a current post-paid verizon customer and need to buy a pixel 6 pro to be financed over 24 months. Is there another place apart from verizon to buy this phone with unlocked bootloader and no bloatware but still have the monthly payment show up on my verizon bill? Last time I did this at target but they often don't carry the latest phones in time
As a side question, does anybody know how thick is the bulge from the zoom camera?
Thanks
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Not sure if you can add it somehow to verizon, but at least in Europe Google offers a 24month financing with 0% interest rate directly in their own shop (cooperation with KLARNA). Not sure if you guys have something similar over in the US.