Hi guys. I just bought an HTC 10 and was a little concerned with the phone heating up during charging. I looked it up and apparently thats normal? My question though is using quick charge going to destroy the life of my battery. If I leave it plugged in overnight will it lessen battery life? I am fine with charging at "regular speed". Can I put the USB C cable into my HTC one M9 charger safely charge the phone. Can I do that with my old car charger also (I believe its a T-mobile brand charger that I bought from them). Also, can you guys recommend me a car charger (and USB C cable) that would safely charge my phone. I was still using a galaxy s3 until recently and switched to a m9 for 2 weeks before switching carriers and getting a HTC10- I really know very little about these new quick charge batteries and Cables. Thank you
First about charger, as the HTC10 don't have options to turn off fast charge (samsung have such options) so if you want to change it slower your only options is use some normal 2A charger (without QC 2.0/3.0 support). Rule of thumb all battery don't like heat, no matter when charge or discharge, keep it cool is best thing to avoid life shorten. The HTC 10 charger support QC 3.0 which allow charge faster, but may also hurt the bettery, I don't know the spec of the battery but my finding is when using fast charge it actually charging around 1C( charging rate), normally the more over 1C, the more damage. There is another problem of HTC 10 is that battery are between LCD and motherboard, when the battery heat up and expand it may damage the motherboard, this happen to previous HTC m8(or m9, forget which one).
Note that a 2A charger will about 30 mins slower then the HTC10 charger for a full charge, the HTC10 charger is much faster when near empty, but will about the same as a 2A charger when over 70%.
For cable you better stick with the HTC 10 cable or make sure any usbc cable you get have a 50 ohm resistor, as there are many cable are not compliant to usb-c standard. Google for benson leung cable review or take a look of his review in Amazon will help.
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And yes, you can use any charger, but there exist some charger will not work for usb-c cable, just rare, I learn that from benson reviews. In case you wonder I am using a Samsung S4 2A charger. Cable is 1m orzly
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About plugin overnight, I always do that because when fully charge it will just stop charging, so it won't hurt much, but for li battery the best range of battery level is about 30%-70%, keep in this range the battery will have the longest life, that's why when you buy a phone it usually have about 40% battery. there are some mod/software to limit the HTC10 stay in this range.
The fact is you are likely get a new phone after 2 years, and normally the battery still have about 70% original capacity, make it worse case you may still have more then 60%, so why bother about heat, charging rate, etc
Batteries wear out with use, namely how much current is going through it (either in or out and definitely both simultaneously). You can be gentler with it but that doesn't mean that Quick Charge is going to destroy it.
QC3.0 isn't binary: it continuously negotiates charging power (current and voltage) based on how much the battery is charged and temperature.
If you want to maximize longevity:
- Charge slowly with your computer's legacy USB port, which is 500mA max (I predominately use this; I'm not using an extra device--a charger--and the computer is always on anyway and I can synch)
- Don't charge it and use it simultaneously (I only do so when using Maps/navigation)
- Don't let the battery run low (below 20%); charging current is sloped: more battery drain, the more current is applied to charge it rapidly; set Extreme Power Saver to kick in at 25-30%
Use the app Ampere to see how much current is being used to charge your battery.
Side note: the 50kΩ pull-up resistor is only for USB-PD-to-legacy-device compliance, neither of which have anything to do with Qualcomm's Quick Charge, according to Qualcomm. Now what htc did, I do not know; I have a couple of cables that don't work and one that does.
Seek expert advise
I am using & prefer wireless charger to charge HTC 10 although its slower over wall plug charging, At random observe sound profile get altered from normal to silent mode. Incoming call dont buzz the ringtone, in whatsapp, viber as well as paid GSM call. Does any one know what and where is the bug?
Once device restarted, sound is again get back to normal.
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First about charger, as the HTC10 don't have options to turn off fast charge (samsung have such options) so if you want to change it slower your only options is use some normal 2A charger (without QC 2.0/3.0 support). Rule of thumb all battery don't like heat, no matter when charge or discharge, keep it cool is best thing to avoid life shorten. The HTC 10 charger support QC 3.0 which allow charge faster, but may also hurt the bettery, I don't know the spec of the battery but my finding is when using fast charge it actually charging around 1C( charging rate), normally the more over 1C, the more damage. There is another problem of HTC 10 is that battery are between LCD and motherboard, when the battery heat up and expand it may damage the motherboard, this happen to previous HTC m8(or m9, forget which one).
Note that a 2A charger will about 30 mins slower then the HTC10 charger for a full charge, the HTC10 charger is much faster when near empty, but will about the same as a 2A charger when over 70%.
For cable you better stick with the HTC 10 cable or make sure any usbc cable you get have a 50 ohm resistor, as there are many cable are not compliant to usb-c standard. Google for benson leung cable review or take a look of his review in Amazon will help.
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And yes, you can use any charger, but there exist some charger will not work for usb-c cable, just rare, I learn that from benson reviews. In case you wonder I am using a Samsung S4 2A charger. Cable is 1m orzly
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About plugin overnight, I always do that because when fully charge it will just stop charging, so it won't hurt much, but for li battery the best range of battery level is about 30%-70%, keep in this range the battery will have the longest life, that's why when you buy a phone it usually have about 40% battery. there are some mod/software to limit the HTC10 stay in this range.
The fact is you are likely get a new phone after 2 years, and normally the battery still have about 70% original capacity, make it worse case you may still have more then 60%, so why bother about heat, charging rate, etc
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They all diminish over time no matter how carefully you treat it. Don't sweat it. Limit your quick charge usage and don't drain it more often than you have to.
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I just bought a generic USB wall charger and it's taking much longer to charge than the htc charger that came with my EVO.
I'd like to determine the amps/ma the charger is actually putting out. I don't have a multi-meter, so I am hoping there is a hidden menu or app which will tell me what the phone sees.
Any suggestions?
You can download aLogcat and watch for the current usage, it should post it every so often. It should also say on the charger somewhere too, the stock wall charger is 1000mA
I tried this and found nothing showing charge rate, only the battery percent.
A standard usb wall charger should equal how long it takes to charge if you were plugged into you pc. If it is taking longer than that then you got a super el cheapo charger that puts out less than 500ma (milliamps).
I would be carefull too, cheap usb wall chargers are not know to output clean power and have killed devices. By overvolting/charging them.
I have been doing some testing lately with the htc charger and a pc and have come to the conclusion that the htc wall charger pushing 1 amp (1000ma) charges the battery too fast and doesnt allow for a "strong" charge. Meaning your battery will drain faster. The htc charger is, i believe not meant to be your everyday charger, only a boost charger to get you charged back up quickly.
This is common battery knowledge when it comes to charging... you can charge a battery too fast, and a slower; 500ma "trickle charge" is much cleaner and better for your battery.
Some maybe argue this, and thats ok, these are just my personal findings.
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I'm not seeing that info in the log either.
The charger had a weird range of 250-1000ma.
Yeah I think I'll invest in a better charger just to be safe.
Thank you both for your replies.
The Samsung charger adapter which comes in the box is very slow in nature. It take more than 2 hours to charge my phone. I was wondering if I can use the following Nokia brand chargers which are fast chargers?
Nokia Charger Adapter CA-146C
Nokia Fast Micro-USB Charger AC-10
It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
Are you really sure about this? Can you link me to some articles which confirm this.
Even I was thinking about purchasing AC-10 charger from Nokia.
How fast is the nokia charger?
0-10% -> 100% in an hour or less?
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It won't make any difference the phone decides what current it draws from the charger, so it'll take just as long to charge.
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I'm not sure about this. I have a friend with a Blackberry Playbook and he reckons his phone charges much faster if he uses the charger from that.
The "stock" S2 charger is 700mA - it doesn't take a genius to work out that for a 1650mAh battery this will take about 2.5 hours to fully charge the battery under ideal conditions (phone off) or anything from 3-6 hours with the phone on, depending all what's running or if you're using the phone while it's charging.
Which is all pretty ridiculous - ok we're comparing apples and oranges when we compare a S2 to the likesw of a Nokia, but I do miss the days when I could charge my phone in an hour and have it last two or three days. I thought my Blackberry was bad but at least I can usually squeeze a full day out of it...
The only wall wart I had lying around that was more than 700mA was a 5V 2A supply. I've tried with that which works, but the phone chokes with a "battery overtemp" warning after about 10 minutes - which tells me I AM pumping more into the battery than it can handle. This would suggest that there IS a happy medium where we can optimize the battery charge time - I'm bust looking for a 1A supply...
I have TWO AC-10Xs, and am using it with the Ninphetamene kernel (which comes with increased charge input mods to 800ma) fine. Charges to full in about 2.5-3 hours.
I've never gotten overcharge errors either.
Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
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Hi,the usage of more powerful charger will eventually reduce lifespan of your battery. This comes from basic physics, materials and so... Higher mA means faster current, which wear the material of the capacitor - battery.
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The phone (specifically, the kernel) limits charge coming in, and there MUST be hardware limiters on the batteries and the phone themselves (which, in some cheapo batteries DON'T WORK and results in them frying themselves and the phone in process) and the batteries are replaceable anyway.
eranyanay said:
I have capdase 2 USB car charger that was used for my old iphone device.
It outputs 1A.
is it safe to use it?
I tried to charge with it for 10-15minutes or so, and didnt recognize any suspicious warmups...it reached 41~degrees while at the moment im charging and using it as a hotspot and its on 38 degrees.
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i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
ledavi said:
i use htc wall charger rated at 1A and having no proplem with ,a pc USB port is capable of 1A and we all know there are no problem ,even so there are no visible improvement in charging time because as someone said the charging current is automatically regulated
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That's good to know that the current is regulated by the device.
Is there a software to see what is the current taken by the phone?
As long ad the temperture isn't higher than 45degrees is it ok?
By the way, Im pretty sure that usb outputs 0.5A and not 1A
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battery monitor widget
It seems logical to be able to use all chargers as smartphones all have micro usb .
(I 'm not sute that's mean something in english, sorry)
Great widget! thanks.
I really like the data it gives!
Sadly, while charging with my .7A original charger & meanwhile giving a hotspot to my laptop, it shows that only 76mA comes in!
hehe, gonna take forever to charge the battery this way.
i doubt this. i'm still worried about the compatible problem~~~
After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
Let's see if I can help make things a bit clearer. Feel free to correct where I may be off.
The Nokia thing, it's not a charger. It's a power supply.
The "charger" is built into your phone, hardware-wise.
How can I prove it?
Take the Samsung supplied cable, plug it into your computer. You'll see that your phone is charging too. No, the cable is not a charger. Do you think your computer is a special built charger for your phone? Hardly.
The charging circuit is within the phone, and thus charging the battery when there's available power.
Ok, so we have the charger (i.e. the mobile phone), we have the battery, we need the power. Where do we get power from? The wall adapters (or computers). So what are the wall adapters? Ratings of 1000mah means that the wall adapter can provide up to 1000ma per hour.
However, your charging circuit will determine how much current to actually draw. For example, drawing 800mah for 10 min may raise the temperature to 55 degrees, so after 10 min the charging circuit drops the charging current to 500mah.
Of course, if you're using el cheapo cables, some cables may not be able to support the current draw and you may find that even with 20000000mah power supplies your phone can only draw 100mah.
The SGS2 heats up pretty easily, and it doesn't quite draw beyond 700mah. The circuit built into the phone doesn't allow it to, if i'm not wrong. If your phone is overheating while charging, you better change your case as it's going to cause your phone to overheat sooner or later.
Using a 20000000mah power supply isn't an issue, because the charging circuit within the phone will be able to draw only a certain amount.
Me, I plug my SGS2 into a 2Ah charger every night to charge, and yes it's perfectly fine. I'm only upset that after buying an expensive 2A charger, I realised that the phone is not able to draw high currents (phone even heats up to 55degree Celsius when charging).
Charging the phone on a ice pack (which lowered the phone temperature to 16 degrees while charging) didn't increase the amount of current drawn by the phone, even on a 2A power supply.
My humble advise is, stick with the stock power supply, or at most get a 1A version. No need to splash for a 2A power supply. If you really need faster charging, get a battery charging dock.
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After two days with the battery monitor widget Im affraid itself it drains the battery.
could it be it affects the battery?
settings are regular, it monitors changes every 60seconds
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
I thought the whole idea of having a universal micro USB charging connection across most good brands was so you could use other chargers!
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yes of course it does. It consumes a certain amount of ma per hour, doesn't it?
Personally, there's a app called watchdog, look for it, IMHO it helps to catch rouge apps better, and manage battery better.
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Well I just like the widget, which shows me also the battery temperture
I hope it doesnt takes too much
I see that the wall charger for the Galaxy Nexus outputs 5V and 1A. Unfortunately, none of the extra chargers I'd like to use as additional chargers have this output. Some of them are 5.1V, and some of them all put out under 1A.
From what I understand, using a charger w/ a higher voltage could potentially damage the phone. I know that this unlikely considering it's only an extra .1V in my case, but I don't want to risk it.
As for the amps, I believe that using lower amps isn't dangerous, but may result in charging taking longer than normal.
Are these two assumptions correct? Also, does anyone know of any cheap chargers that put out 5V/1A? If you put in "phone charger" in Amazon, the second hit is a Samsung OEM charger that puts out 5V/0.7A, but I'd rather get one that is going to be an exact match.
700-800mah are fine and acceptable for charging. But if wanting to play games on a charger and still get some kind of charge, go with a 1000 mah charger. 1000 mah charger is also best to use while using mhl so you can hopefully not lose battery charge while streaming video over hdmi.
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Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
Dmw017 said:
Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Micro-Travel-Charger-M540/dp/B002HJBM04
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Travel-Charger-Adapter-MicroUSB/dp/B0049IE70I
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Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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I'm using a Griffin charger for the iPhone (1 amp)... it's very small and the plug blades fold up, making it very pocketable. Give the included iPhone cable to a friend.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-NA231...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322795627&sr=1-33
alee said:
I'm using a Griffin charger for the iPhone (1 amp)... it's very small and the plug blades fold up, making it very pocketable. Give the included iPhone cable to a friend.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-NA231...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322795627&sr=1-33
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it's.. 24 bucks ... for a charger..
lol fml
Dmw017 said:
it's.. 24 bucks ... for a charger..
lol fml
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Haha, it's a nice charger.
If you don't get that one, do get a charger that does at least 700mA... or ideally 1A. Some of the cheaper chargers don't put out a lot of power and it will take a long time to charge your phone.
alee said:
Haha, it's a nice charger.
If you don't get that one, do get a charger that does at least 700mA... or ideally 1A. Some of the cheaper chargers don't put out a lot of power and it will take a long time to charge your phone.
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...you say it folds too huh :/ ....
but for that price, i wonder if there are any samsung chargers that are just as good if not better..
that is Apple, after all
hey isnt http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...al-USB-Charging/dp/B004EYH5WY/ref=pd_sim_e_10 the same product , it says it does 5 volts at 5 watts ... thats the same right?
edit: some people are reporting that the charger only charges at 0.5A instead of the full 1A on [some] android devices. if you have the charger, can you confirm your nexus charges at the full 1A watts
I've been doing fine with just plugging it into my computer like I always do with every other phone.
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hey isnt http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...al-USB-Charging/dp/B004EYH5WY/ref=pd_sim_e_10 the same product , it says it does 5 volts at 5 watts ... thats the same right?
edit: some people are reporting that the charger only charges at 0.5A instead of the full 1A on [some] android devices. if you have the charger, can you confirm your nexus charges at the full 1A watts
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Same one.
Good question on whether it's putting out a full 1A. I guess what I do is check the charge times tomorrow with a few different 1A chargers to see if it measures up.
I use this for home:
http://www.amazon.com/Cellet-Charger-Retractable-Cable-myTouch/dp/B004XVM1T0
And this for the car:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q
Both are dual-USB and put out 1amp. Charges my GNEX and iPhone 4 (work) at the same time without issues.
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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I've read that the wall charger drops the battery down to 90ish % after it hits 100% and just goes between the two levels until you unplug your charger
While a USB charge is slower and charges your device up to a "fuller" charge
...I may be unfathomably wrong though
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man that little Apple charger is so damn cute ... lol , ill probably end up buying it once the 1A volt charge is confirmed
edit: just bought it lol, oh well.. it will probably maybe more or less somewhat possibly work like it should at 1A :}
assisterah said:
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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I'm not an expert on the subject but I was under the impression that cycles (charge + discharge) were a bigger factor on battery life than something like this. The longer a current is running through the battery (charge or discharge) is detrimental to it's life span.
Leaving a laptop plugged in all the time ruins its battery is my source on this one. I would say it's because it has a constant charge running through the battery.
qreffie said:
I've been doing fine with just plugging it into my computer like I always do with every other phone.
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That takes a lot longer vs plugging it into the wall
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That takes a lot longer vs plugging it into the wall
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True dat. Unless it has changed , USB only outputs 500mA.
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True dat. Unless it has changed , USB only outputs 500mA.
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500mA is the max before the PC will disable the port. So your actually get less current.
There are some ports, depending on the motherboard that have a option of outputting more power for charging devices, and also have the port powered when the computer is off. But a normal usb 2.0 port is limited to 500mA max per spec... so a normal usb 2.0 port charging a phone is drawing less then 500mA, or it would get and over current condition and disable the port.
I design electronics and work with USB and batteries often, so let me clear some stuff up in no particular order:
- PC ports are limited to 500mA so will only ever output a max of 500mA
- You can use a wall charger that outputs 1000mA but on most devices the data pins on the micro USB need to be shorted to tell the phone it can try to draw more than 500mA. This is true for HTC devices for example. That means if you get a cheap charger that doesn't short the data pins, when you plug your standard micro-usb cable into it, it will still only charge your phone at 500mA.
- The charging controller is actually in the phone. It decides based on temperature (there's a sensor in the battery), current, voltage across the battery (current charge) and characteristics of the type of battery to figure out how much current to allow into the battery. Although its true that a 500mA charger may have different affects than 1000mA chargers, there usually is very little perceivable difference. Which is (slightly) better really depends on the charging controller and how it decides when to stop charging.
- When the battery is full, the phone continues to 'trickle charge' for a period of time. This isn't a bad thing. Overcharging a Lithium battery can be extremely dangerous, so normal charging occurs at a high speed and then slows down at a safe limit below the 'true' 100%. After that the phone continues to trickle charge to top up the battery. This is the reason you read in phone manuals you should charge the phone for 8 hours or overnight for its first charge.
- When charging at 500mA, the battery does not get as hot. This usually means you get closer to the true 100% before 'trickle charging' starts. With a 1000mA charge the battery heats up a lot more so charging may switch to trickle much sooner. Here's an example with made up figures.
Lets say you charge your battery with a 500mA charger, and it takes 2 hours. When the phone shows 100% it may actually be at 99%, and trickle charging. Leaving it for another 30 mins may take it to its full capacity.
Now, lets say you charge your battery with a 1000mA charger, and it takes 1 hour. When the phone shows 100% it may actually be at 98%, and trickle charging - It stopped sooner because the battery was hotter. Leaving it for another 30 mins may take it to full capacity.
Conclusion.. the 500mA charger took 2.5 hours, while the 1000mA charger took 1.5 hours. However if you unplugged both when the phone showed 100%, the 500mA charged battery may last longer, and so you think the 500mA somehow resulted in a more thorough charge!
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter which you use. the absolute charge cycles is what counts. Charge to 100%, then dont charge till its 0 for best battery care. Constantly plugging into a charger or dock all day on and off is bad. But having said that, your phone is there to be used, so a sensible balance of the two is the best bet.
Thank you so much for the detailed response, kam187. Would you recommend avoiding using a 5.1V charger, considering the phone came with a 5V charger?
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I wouldn't use it. The 0.1v probably won't make any difference, but it may not be regulated. Chargers with these odd values sometimes don't have any regulator inside them. That could damage your phone as the voltage could shoot up and down as the current draw changes.
Just search amazon/ebay for any MicroUSB charger, and pick one from a reputable manufacturer like Motorola, HTC, Samsung etc. Since all phones now use MicroUSB, there's loads of these chargers around from previous phone models etc.
Here's just one I saw on amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Trave...E70I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322808220&sr=8-3
Hey Everyone,
Surprisingly enough, I have been playing with a lot of car chargers and found a great one. I was talking through Walgreens and saw this one for $5, I turned it around and it charges at 1000mah, that's the same as an AC Adapter charger the phone comes with.
From my experience, most chargers that try and charge the Phone at 1000 mah, such as other car chargers and the iPhone block will either not do anything or charge as USB. This baby actually charges your phone as "AC" and therefore charges much faster than the 500 mah car chargers you often get at other stores.
This was found at WALGREENS, of all places! I recommend it for the AC charge ability versus the USB charge. Another plus is how small it is. It doesn't take up any room at all any barely pops up half an inch.
If anyone has any other ones they commend, feel free to do so.
Cons: It does not have a internal fuse like one of my other chargers, so if there is ever a surge of current, I don't know if the phone has anything built in to protect itself. This is charging at 1000 mah.
Pretty sure this phone will allow for 2.1 amp charging, the SII does, and if you buy any of the following ones, the phone will charge a whole lot faster for a few more dollars:
3.1A Dual USB Car Charger Adapter (White)
Wagan Twin USB/DC Socket Traveler's Adapter
(for the home) PowerGen Dual Port USB 2.1A 10W AC Travel Wall Charger
I've removed text on there for these being made for iPhones / iPads for a reason, but I'll go ahead and state that they'll work just the same for our devices as well....
I bought everything on that list, multiples of the 2nd and 3rd for multiple cars / rooms, so I know they're good quality stuff
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Pretty sure this phone will allow for 2.1 amp charging, the SII does, and if you buy any of the following ones, the phone will charge a whole lot faster for a few more dollars:
3.1A Dual USB Car Charger Adapter (White)
Wagan Twin USB/DC Socket Traveler's Adapter
(for the home) PowerGen Dual Port USB 2.1A 10W AC Travel Wall Charger
I've removed text on there for these being made for iPhones / iPads for a reason, but I'll go ahead and state that they'll work just the same for our devices as well....
I bought everything on that list, multiples of the 2nd and 3rd for multiple cars / rooms, so I know they're good quality stuff
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But is it recommended by the manufacturer to charge at those speeds? Do they offer any accessories that charge at those speeds naturally?
Because I don't want to charge above anything that Samsung recommends. I know the wall charger is rated at 1amp.
Reason being is that charging batteries faster and higher than recommended can damage or give them false charges.
Just thought I'd comment on this.
I have the 2.1 amp dual port charger from Tech$Go (Walgreens / E-Filliate Inc ) - I attached a picture.
I have a MyCharge power brick, and it all the sudden stopped holding a charge. Now it charges forever, and only supplies power out for a very very small amount of time. I usually charge it, and my phone, using the Tech&Go charger. When using that charger on my other cell phone, when plugging it in/taking plug out I noticed that the battery level was jumping around crazy.
I think it might be putting out too much and I think the higher voltage/amps caused a problem with my power brick.
Anyone have any clues about this I'd greatly appreciate it. I searched on Google and got this link so figured I'd ask even though I don't have this phone, I'm using a LG-Connect from MetroPCS
anyone have experience using car chargers with extended batteries?
Zerolemon 7000mAh battery
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i love this rom!
In the USA Samsung have a charging kit which includes a 45 watt charger. No sign of something similar in the UK. Anyone spotted the official or compatible charger. Thanks in advance.
Edit Sorry just seen another thread on this subject.
Any word of a mobile charger with the same wattage/charging power ?
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
jah said:
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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Some advice on Note 10+ fast chargers in this article:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/08/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-fast-charging.html
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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That's exactly what I've been thinking too. I don't even own a wireless charger, have no need for it. When I need to charge my phone I just charge it with the reg. charger or plug it in, in the car. The existing fast charge technology is fast enough. I added that above post seeing that there is much interest in this subject.
I've heard that the N10+ stock 25W brick takes only about 1 hour+ to go from 25% to full. The 50W charger is just another 'hype', in my opinion, created by the phone manufacturers to show-off that they are on top of the best technology there is. And, of course, to get some extra revenue.
Edit: some reviews say it gets really hot.
This says it uses PPS 2.0, do you guys think it's legit?
DBPOWER USB Type C Charger, USB-C Charger with Power Delivery 45W/60W USB Wall Charger for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, iPad Air 2/Mini, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, Galaxy S9/S8, LG, Nexus, Pixel, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM8ZWY3/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_-GyxDbPDPKPR0
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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"We weren’t able to test the 45W Super Fast charger ourselves, but on 25W, our Galaxy Note 10+ review unit went from 5% to 60% in 30 minutes with the device turned on and the screen turned off."
I just bought my 45W samsung charger via samsung using my reward points. Total cost is $5 (tax) that I have to pay for out of pocket. Worth it for me.
RR-99 said:
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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Personally, I charge my device at least twice a day, more if I connect to my audio interface as that draws power from the phone. I also have the hotspot permanently turned on which can kill the battery really quickly.
Dont really care what it's doing to the battery as it'll be gone back to Samsung next year through the upgrade program.
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
I got the Ugreen 45w PD charger.
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Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
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Unfortunately even having a PPS charger doesn't do the trick - I have an AUKEY 60W charger with PPS and it is charging slower than the stock 25W
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ggrant3876 said:
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
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Yeah that item on amazon now has a note:
- This charger does not support 45W fast charging for Samsung Note 10.
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You should be able to use most usb C laptop chargers to get the 45W power output, but it also has to have PPS as far as what I have understood. The original one will work of course and it's always the recommended choice - tough you may ask yourself if you really need it.
I bought one for travelling. When flying I have moments that I really have to charge fast. And as it may not be perfect for the battery I will just use it when flying.
I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I really would like to know more about it. I mostly buy a new one every year, and pass the "old" ones to my (grand)children.:angel:
So personally I am not interested in battery life
I bought a belkin QC4 PD charger. 27w. Chargers 50% in 35 mins. Don't buy cheap chinese crap and risk burning your house down.