S-Pen Alternative - Note 7 Questions & Answers

I am still using my Galaxy Note 7 and I really don't want to give it up, but, it does appear that Verizon and Samsung are going to do everything in their power to force me to return mine.
I am a power user of the S-Pen. I use it all day every day for work. I currently have hundreds of notes and make more every day. I'm not tied to Samsung apps, Google has sufficient replacement apps for Samsung Notes or S-Note.
Does anyone know of an alternative, a good alternative, to the S-Pen. I use mine to write with and I need a fine point. Pretty much all I've found thus far, as a replacement for the S-Pen, are pens with fat round soft points.
There seem to be plenty of others in this forum who are still using their Note7's like me. I'd rather not downgrade to a slower phone just to keep using my S-Pen. Speed and usability is one of the main reasons I first bought my Note 7.
Hopefully someone has found something I haven't in looking for an S-Pen replacement. I don't want to give up my Note 7 but I want to be prepared in case I do have to.
Thanks.

Get the note 5 they will come out with another Note I love my Note 5

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So, I have been doing more checking in to this...
I am still using my Note 7 but I foresee the end coming soon. Besides with the current conduct of Samsung I am thinking that I may just be done with them as a brand entirely.
Anyway, a friend of mine got the LG Stylo 2 as a replacement for his Note7 (he is also an owner of a Note5) and is happy with it thus far. I tested it for about 10 minutes and was pleasantly surprised. It's not a Note7 but it is still better than the Note5. LG's stylus programs aren't as advanced as Samsung's but they are serviceable for those who must have a stylus to write with.
Also, I have purchased an Awinner stylus for all of $18. It works with a phone (any and every phone I have tested it with thus far) via bluetooth BUT does NOT have to be PAIRED with the phone. It is not as responsive as the S-Pen but it is bigger and (for me) easier to hold. I only charged it once so far and have not had to recharge it yet after 4 days. It does have a nice small tip, though not as small as the S-Pen.
Both seem to be viable alternatives.
Personally, I am leaning towards using my Awinner stylus with a little more high powered phone than the Stylus 2 when I give up my Note7.
When will that happen? Well, all I can say is far too soon. I love that phone...

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Capacitive pen for taking notes.

Hey, I'm looking to take some notes on my tab and was looking for some suggestions. I've found a couple cool programs but need a pen.
My noted are almost all math related so equations and such.
Any advice would be very helpful.
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When it comes to capacitive stylus, I believe price is a good signal of quality. I have tried both high end (e.g., boxwave) and low end (generic, bundled with other accessories), and the difference is very noticeable. Good luck taking math notes.... I am an economist and my note-taking involves math too. You are going to have a hard time getting good results. I tried doing this, but had to go back to my clunky convertible tablet to get the results I needed. Unless you get a slate with a digitizer (like the Flyer or the Thinkpad), you are pretty much out of luck.
Your not out of luck... just need this!!
As u guys know capacitive stylus have a very wide point so that it can be recognized by the device, therefore affecting precision. Thankfully some people already came up with a solution. U have to options.
1) DIY fine ponit stylus with materials u can find in ur house... for FREE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM
I found a blog where someone made a more precise intructions .... but I don't
remember the site!
2) Someone took the idea to kickstarter and now they are commercializing there
version of a fine point stylus.... only that it cost around 20-30 bucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpwfoEk0-bY
http://adonit.net/product/7
I just pre ordered one of these bad boys!!!
Hmm, looks intriguing. I'm not holding my breath until this type of technology is proven and reviewed thoroughly. Thanks for sharing.
Edit; Here's the blog with the detailed instructions:
http://tumblr.kinglau.co/post/6442455519/ipadstylusdiy
Will take a look. Still in the market for a tablet. I like tthe 10.1 but would be better if I could take notes.
I find the flyer too small for me and the one that att has is like $800 so I'd rather use paper than that lol.
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check out this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057JAA54
i just ordered one, i guess for $8 it is worth trying
The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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mafiaboy01 said:
The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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But its $800 lol
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Doesn't the Lenovo Thinkpad tablet also come with a digitizer and pen?
I'll try the DIY out and let you know how it goes, looks easy enough and I have everything needed. I paid one looks great as well, but I'll wait fir the reviews to roll in. Thank you for showing this to us.
How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
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How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
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The Dagi came first than the one i showed u guys... but I've read some reviews and they say that it's hard to get used to because w this one u have to write w a certain angle for it to work at its best.
That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
cooljonL said:
That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
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You can probably do that using Sketchbook Pro. Just import the image, zoom in on where you need to write, merge the layers when done and save.
I too am looking for something to take notes on. I bought a Flyer and it was pretty inaccurate. This is one of those things where if it isn't done right it will be horrible experience. My best suggestion would be to wait for the Samsung Series 7 Slate. I know its pretty expensive but look at like this it can replace your laptop.
The 12.1 Asus eePad slate (Windows-based) gets good reviews on the note-taking area.
first of all: out there are a varaity of stylus for your tabs and phones. the regular capacitive pens you'll find for a buck or two on ebay are the same as the ones cellphone companies sell for like $20, does are just like using your finger and are only good for people with big/fat fingers since they cant type on keyboard well and other stuff like that without hitting the wrong key. but some genius chinese guy invented this wish you can make at home by yourself without any money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&NR=1&feature=endscreen
but also two companies took this idea and patented it, and here are the results
Dagi:
P501 and P502 (old method with just stylus)
P601 (old method with ink pen in one end and stylus in the other)
P504, P505, P506 and P507 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil)
(the P504 comes in 9 different colors)
P602 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil- and also an ink pen in the other end)
Adonit:
Jot and Jot Pro (The best out there)
I have a Dagi P504 and an Adonit Jot Pro. I use the on my Tab on Sketchbook Pro and other Drawing and Note-Taking apps. They both are very good but the dagi does not have a cap so the point can bend in a backpack or something and the adonit jot pro is very sleek in desing and has a cap. Its up to each ones likes. I paid $18 for the P504 and $30 for the Jot Pro. I bought them on ebay. You can find all of the styles on ebay.
You can find all of the styles on ebay.You will find The Dagi from $15-$30 depending on styles and the Adonit from $25-$45
The idea from the guy on the vid works great too
NOTE: I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 Galaxy 10.1 owners: You must have root on your device and use TouchScreenTune (free app that fixes your touch screen sensitivity). Otherwise the writing will lag. Link below:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital
i bought dagi p601 from ebay 27$ get conf.email from dagi
The stylus, P602, had already been sent to you by post in Taiwan. The tracking number is. The website for tracking .Please enter the item of International Letters Tracking Service for the tracking. Normally, it takes 7~12 days for the delivery. We will keep following up the delivery process until you get it.
We have uploaded the related demo videos on YouTube and you can search them by the key words of "dagi stylus". Also, welcome to visit our website www.dagi.com.tw for our products in detail.
By the way, we have provided another stylus, P204, to you. It's the gift for you. If you have any comment on the stylus after getting it, please kindly let us know. We will always do our best for the improvement.
Last part i like very much hope one of them will work.I hope ill get it next week and write here if they are good.sorry for bad english
Motorola Stylus pen with Precision Tip
On Motorola site, it says that a Stylus pen with precision tip is becoming available soon. By its picture, it seems that it is indeed precise. On the compatibility tab, it says it is compatible with XYBoard only. Is XYBoard touchscreen different from Xoom? In my opinion, if it is compatible with Xoom, it is compatible with the SGT 10.1, isn't it?
Here's the link for the pen: http://goo.gl/1y6Pb

[Q] Thinking about pulling the trigger

I'm considering picking up a 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014 today using Best Buy's Cyber Monday deal. I currently have an iPad 3 and a Nook HD+ 32GB with CM10.2. Since switching from an iPhone 5 to a Galaxy S4, the iPad 3 pretty much sits on my nightstand and I use the HD+ for everything. For the price, it's a nice device, but it can be frustratingly slow as a daily use device.
I've been hoping for the Nexus 10 2 to be released, but I'm becoming increasingly doubtful that's going to happen anytime soon. That's where the Note 10.1 comes in...it's basically the same display as the Nexus 10 (at least in terms of size and resolution) and has great hardware specs. $500 is a little steep for an Android tablet in my opinion, but I should be able to get $250-350 for my iPad 3 which really knocks down the incremental cost to me.
I'm not a huge fan of Touch Wiz vs. the stock Android experience, but it's not enough to push me away from a device. I am, however, concerned about the reports of lag on what should be one of the fastest devices on the market. I have zero interest in installing a custom ROM on my next tablet as I've already spent too much time dealing with the various quirks of custom ROMs going on previous tablets (Nook Color, Touchpad, and now Nook HD+). I want a rock solid, smooth stock experience. I've seen some folks say that with all the patches applied, the lag is basically gone. It's also worth mentioning that I immediately install Nova Launcher Prime as my launcher, so I wouldn't be using the stock launcher.
Also, I've read that the power port on this thing is on the bottom when in landscape orientation?! How does that work with something like the Poetic Slimline case? I have the Poetic for my HD+ (and the Apple Smart Cover for my iPad) and pretty much keep them standing up while they're plugged in.
Anyway, the owner reviews I've seen everywhere (Amazon, Best Buy, etc.) are quite positive, but I wanted to check in with this community to ask for real-life opinions, the good and the bad, before pulling the trigger.
Thanks!
UPDATE: I just pulled the trigger. I'll pick it up on the way home tonight and post my impressions once I get it set up to my tastes.
I pulled trigger last saturday. Been thinking about ipad air, note 10.1, nexus 10 2 for long long time, and I really really love the note!
I was worried about bloat wares and lag as well as galaxy s4 owner I experience both in gs4. However, I don't have any issue with neither in note 10.1. Yes there r few bloat wares but not as much as gs 4 and most are quiet useful. altho I only used it for 3 days I never had issue with lag or stuttering. Also handwriting recognition speed and accuracy is Just off the chart. In more of type but now I tend to write with Stylus all the time.
my tablet exp include ipad 2/4, nexus 7 2012. But this is best tablet So far.
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I've got the 32GB white version, and let me tell you, this thing flies through everything I throw at it. I have had 3 games open in the background while watching YouTube in multiview along with the S-Note app and browsing the internet and there was no lag. The 8-core processor and 3 gigs of ram destroy everything I throw at. When you first power it up, you'll be hit with 3 updates that will improve stability, performance and also add the Android 4.3 multiuser feature. Trust me, you won't regret getting this tablet, especially with its added S-pen functionality. I no longer have to use paper for anything! I'm using the stock touchwiz launcher, but of course you can install another one. And in landscape mode the power button is at the top. I'm using this case for mine:
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Samsung-...qid=1386018274&sr=8-2&keywords=note+2014+case
NOTE: As of now not many games in the play store have been optimized to take advantage of the power of this device. Games run smoothly, just not a full graphics or full resolution on some games. Something to keep in mind if you play a lot of games.
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And in landscape mode the power button is at the top. I'm using this case for mine:
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Samsung-...qid=1386018274&sr=8-2&keywords=note+2014+case
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Thanks for the info, both of you. As for my concern, it's the placement of the power charging port that concerns me, not the power button. Since it's on the bottom in landscape orientation, doesn't that preclude having the tablet propped up on a stand like in the main picture for that case and plugged in at the same time?
I am also thinking of buying 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014. To only things which makes me to hesitate is the chrome trim along the edges. Isn't that part so much prone to scratches? Is that plastic or aluminium? Won't the chrome paint peel off as time passes?
nor500 said:
I am also thinking of buying 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014. To only things which makes me to hesitate is the chrome trim along the edges. Isn't that part so much prone to scratches? Is that plastic or aluminium? Won't the chrome paint peel off as time passes?
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The sides are plastic, I would think in a case would be fine, but without a case and tossed around it might damage with hard use. Wished they would have used aluminum like Apple for the price they charge but that shows scratches over time but only dents if dropped like the one my daughter uses
I've had a 32GB version for around 3 weeks and am really pleased with it. Replaced Touchwiz with Apex launcher immediately and have had a couple of launcher crashes but nothing major - considering going to Nova as people speak highly of it.
Lag: it's a totally subjective topic but I don't notice it at all. Certainly nothing that irritates me. Not a big gamer however.
The power socket is on the 'bottom' but either buy an angled USB cable or use the device upside down.
Great advantages are: (1) the handwriting recognition is fantastic - I have reasonably good cursive writing and it rarely makes a mistake (2) multi-window for notes (LectureNotes in my case) and email (Touchdown) or for email and browser (Chrome).
Most of the Samsung bloatware is a waste of space, including the various pop-ups you can invoke with the s-pen. My wife is, however, still mystified about how I keep changing the TV channel without touching the remote (Watchon). Installing a different launcher stops the intensely annoying 'My Magazine' from popping up.
I'd like to remove this Samsung stuff but I'm not going to root until the current rash of firmware updates dries up.Once rooted I can make more apps available in multi-window (very pleased that TD and LN worked straight away)
My one niggle is the position of the home/menu/back buttons ('bottom' centre in landscape mode). On my old Tab 8.9 the soft buttons were bottom left which made them much easier to access with a thumb. I usually hold the Note upside down in landscape mode as having the buttons top centre is easier IMHO. In portrait mode they are under my right thumb which is perfect for me
The Poetic case has all the right cutouts for the Note but the hinge is on the 'bottom' edge not the top. If you want to use it the right way up in landscape mode you will be folding the cover towards you and under rather than over the top and back. If you want to prop the Note at a shallow angle for typing it will be 'upside down' but that's not a problem for me. The reason is presumably to stop the magnetic clasp on the case interfering with the home button. The 'wake on open'/'sleep on close' features of the case work perfectly and no interference with the digitizer so far.
Most annoyed that as a UK user I had to leave the country to buy a 32GB model and that the firmware updates reach us so slowly. Still Samsung's business model is all about encouraging you to dump your phone/tablet for the latest model rather than customer support (as I found out with the Tab 8.9) - buyer beware!
Well, I ended up returning it this morning. Overall it's a really nice piece of hardware, but there were a few things that bothered me about it:
1. This is purely personal, but I think a 10" tablet is bigger than what I'm wanting. Obviously I've had the iPad 3 for a while, but as I said, I've found myself using the Nook HD+ almost exclusively. As a result, the Note 10.1 felt HUGE in my hands for the way I use a tablet! I think I'm going to refine my search to include only 8-9" tablets now.
2. The placement of the hardware buttons was driving me crazy! When I held the device in landscape, it was really awkward to reach down for the buttons when I needed them, and when I held the device in portrait, I was constantly pressing either the Back or Menu buttons depending on how I held it. Additionally, when held in portrait, (intentional!) access to the buttons was even more awkward.
3. My concern about the placement of the USB charging port was legit. I basically have to lay the tablet flat to charge it, and that's pretty much the opposite of what I've always done with my previous tablets which were propped up in their stands/cases while charging.
4. Even after all the updates were applied, some services/apps disabled, and Nova Launcher installed as the default, it still seemed to lag a bit occasionally. In fact, a few times it became completely unresponsive for a number of seconds before I could resume usage. That definitely shouldn't happen on hardware of this caliber.
All in all, I couldn't keep a $500+ purchase with these concerns. I really wanted to because I thought that S Pen and the multi-window stuff was quite neat, but after sleeping on it I just did a factory reset and returned it.
I'll keep looking...in a perfect world I wish the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 hardware was matched to an AOSP ROM. Maybe that's what the Google Nexus 10 2 will be after all, or maybe someone else will fill that particular niche soon.
Thanks again for the info!
The Nexus 10 2 would feel to big too if the samsung did
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Go check out the LG GPad 8.3!
SCWells72 said:
Well, I ended up returning it this morning. Overall it's a really nice piece of hardware, but there were a few things that bothered me about it:
1. This is purely personal, but I think a 10" tablet is bigger than what I'm wanting. Obviously I've had the iPad 3 for a while, but as I said, I've found myself using the Nook HD+ almost exclusively. As a result, the Note 10.1 felt HUGE in my hands for the way I use a tablet! I think I'm going to refine my search to include only 8-9" tablets now.
2. The placement of the hardware buttons was driving me crazy! When I held the device in landscape, it was really awkward to reach down for the buttons when I needed them, and when I held the device in portrait, I was constantly pressing either the Back or Menu buttons depending on how I held it. Additionally, when held in portrait, (intentional!) access to the buttons was even more awkward.
3. My concern about the placement of the USB charging port was legit. I basically have to lay the tablet flat to charge it, and that's pretty much the opposite of what I've always done with my previous tablets which were propped up in their stands/cases while charging.
4. Even after all the updates were applied, some services/apps disabled, and Nova Launcher installed as the default, it still seemed to lag a bit occasionally. In fact, a few times it became completely unresponsive for a number of seconds before I could resume usage. That definitely shouldn't happen on hardware of this caliber.
All in all, I couldn't keep a $500+ purchase with these concerns. I really wanted to because I thought that S Pen and the multi-window stuff was quite neat, but after sleeping on it I just did a factory reset and returned it.
I'll keep looking...in a perfect world I wish the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 hardware was matched to an AOSP ROM. Maybe that's what the Google Nexus 10 2 will be after all, or maybe someone else will fill that particular niche soon.
Thanks again for the info!
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Also consider samsung galaxy note 8inch
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Also consider samsung galaxy note 8inch
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Or even the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8 if the Note prices are too steep for you. Out of all the Tab models, the 8 is the only one that has > 1GB RAM in it, so it's the only Tab model I would ever consider. I messed with the Tab 8 at Costco -- seemed like a really nice tablet, and I was tempted by the size myself.
I ended up with the Note 10.1 2014 though and very satisfied.
Thanks. Yeah, if the Nexus 10 2 is 10", you're correct that it'll feel too bulky, but the recent rumors are that it may be in the 8-9" range (probably with a designation change as well). As for the Galaxy Note 8, that's a possibility, but I'd prefer something with a higher resolution and slightly larger screen size. The LG looks interesting for sure! I'll check that out.
The LG would be your best bet , but high price to pay compared to say the Nexus 7
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The LG would be your best bet , but high price to pay compared to say the Nexus 7
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Unless you bought it on black Friday from newegg for $279-$30 coupon code which came out to $249
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I'm stuck between 4 and Edge

Well... thread says it all guys...
I was set on the edge, but now I'm not so sure. Something inside my mind is giving me doubt. Perhaps it's the lack of support currently. I currently have a Note 3 and I'm very happy with it. I wouldn't upgrade to something else if I didn't have to right now. But having ATT Next, I might as well.
Wife really liked the Edge and she's looking forward to trying something new. We just ordered her one. Should be here in a week or two... but I'm not so sure.
I looked at one in Best buy, and I can say I had no issues holding the phone or whatever people complain about. (I'm a lefty too). Perhaps big hands help. The screen is a cool idea and you can put some of your common apps on the side I suppose, but I have no problem using folders on my main screen.
Has anyone had both and tried it out?
I'm not even sure what I need in response. I've seen plenty of YT vids comparing the two, held them side by side and read the Edge forums to gain an idea. Something is telling me it's just a gimmick like Kindle Fire's 4 cameras.
Personally went with the Note 4 because I felt like the Note 4 Edge was gimmicky, and wasn't sure how well cases would really work on it... In the end, I needed a phone to last a while, so I went with a regular Note 4 with a solid case.
I was set to get the edge on it's debut date. Played around several times at the store. Liked it a lot but changed my mind. The deciding factor: bezels seemed big for my liking. Though that may have been a matter of perception.
I owned the Edge for 2 days and it's a really nice phone, but the edge screen is very gimmicky. After a day it seemed pointless to have it. Also, the battery life seemed worse than my Note 4.
I ended up returning the Edge, getting a Note 4, and pocketing an extra $100.
The Edge is good, but the extra screen just isn't worth the extra $100 in my opinion.
I too drooled over the edge, but passed in the final analysis in favor of the note 4. I am fortunate enough for cost to not be an issue when choosing a handset but I saw the edge quickly being shelved if purchased. 2 issues prevented my purchase as simply another toy, let alone daily driver.
Since the screen edge screen is on the right side the power button is moved to the top. I have years (decades) of using Samsung devices in my left hand and having the power button on my index finger. The move of the button to the top is not ergonomically sound for me.
Second was that some of the application screens would wrap around to the full extent of the edge screen, especially in the touchwiz settings. I found it quite annoying and was not willing to wait for Samsung to first fix it, then get the fix passed through ATT at some future date.
My 2 cents FWIW, but if the wife has one coming play with it and see what you think.
My 2 cents about the keeping my Note 4 is:
Gear VR!
I've got the Note 4 and the Edge right now. Just picked the Edge up today. I do like having my favorite apps on the Edge screen as opposed to taking up space on my home screen. The only time the Edge screen has been an issue so far is taking pictures. The capture button seems very sensitive and I ended up taking 14 pictures of the same thing. The battery life isn't as good as the Note 4. This is to be expected with a 3000mAh battery as opposed to a 3220mAh. If battery life is important to you I would recommend going with the Note 4 or if you plan to use the Gear VR. Also, the screen protector for the Edge doesn't stay on very well due to the curved portion of the screen.

Whos's returning their Samsung Note 7?

After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Have you scratched yours?
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Some valid points but some are just nonsense....
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
The finger print sensor has nothing wrong with it. Due to your preferences and what you are used to, you are creating this problem.
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You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
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in a way that when you pay almost 1000 EUR for a device, you expect much more.
and the test period has demonstrated that the device is not up to the expectations.
in other words, the device is overpriced; the price is grossly inflated.
that is evident to most users of previous Note models, even without purchasing it.
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Volume is very low.
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :.
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
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Its screen has the same size and resolution as the Note 4 and Note 5.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
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The speaker works great for things like giving easily-heard directions while driving in a noisy car. I've never tried listening to a phone from another room. I find they're easy to take with me--fit right in my pocket! For music, I use BT headphones.
6: The screen scratches too easily.
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Are you reporting that you've scratched it, or just repeating others' rumors?
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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I agree with the apprentice. This is exactly what I am saying about this thread as half of the things mentions are already known before purchasing or just common sense....it isn't a valid reason to then say the phone is a flop and you will be returning it.
Its fair enough to say that the battery is a let down or that the phone is scratching badly because we don't know this prior to having the handset. But to say that the glass gets fingerprints? I'm sure all glass gets finger prints unless it specifically says oleo-phobic and that its finger print proof then you don't have a case. Also to say the phone is expensive? yes it is we all know that but for some like myself i managed to get a very cheap sim only tariff and bought the phone outright. Over the course of 2 years it works out at around £35 per month which is the average for a decent handset and tariff.
It's just really number 5 - buyers remorse.
Nice burn apprentice.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
Señor Sjon said:
Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
Im returning mine due to some pink spots on the right side of the screen but not for a refund but for 1 to 1 exchange
Returning mine because its much slower then my note 5. Installs literally take twice as long. It makes no sense.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
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Oh, yes I do agree Samsung was led astray when all the reviewers were whining about plastic phones and the Hansaplast S5 wasn't the best design they could make. Yet plastic is one of the best materials for a phone. It is light, scratch resistant, doesn't block signals or wireless charging and can be made in all colors and shapes. They got it wrong with the yucky feeling S3/S4/Note 2. After the S4 slipped out of my hand again, I got the Note 3 almost as soon as it was available. The faux leather stitching on it is bad, but the back cover gets the job done. After almost three years of use it has zero scratches and it is very grippy. Same as the N4. It survives my wifes handbag for almost two years now, which is no small feat for a phone. I was waiting for the N5, but if I wanted it, it needed parallel importing. That was too much hassle for a slippery phone with no SD-card, small, non-replaceble battery and glass everywhere.
The N7 is better than the N5, but I'll need to think long and hard if and when I'm going to buy it.
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
djide01 said:
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Hi, Learn, if you listen to the naysayers on any forum you would never leave the house and certainly never make another purchase, not even have a hair cut. The Note 7 is a bloody good mobile. Buy it, experience it, if you don't like it you have 14 days to return it so someone else waiting for it can enjoy it. :highfive:
I have to say this Note 7 forum is getting silly. There are dedicated haters here who just post in nearly every thread criticising something they don't even own. Its turning to the point of hysteria on some threads. :silly:
Buy and enjoy.
Ryland
AllGamer said:
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
May seem strange to most of you guys but the lack of IR blaster kills it for me. I use it on my note 3 all day everyday. Air-conditioning at work and at home. My TV and set top box. My fan. It's such a small piece of tech with so much use. Kind of annoys me that they took it away.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
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I bought into the hype after watching the live unveil in New York.
I was actually checking out the Nexus 6p, as I wanted a new phone with Root.
in the past Samsung phones used to be a safe bet to get root, but seems like since the S7 the game has changed.
Fast charging is as you said not fast enough, 1 hour charge to only get 60% to 70% is not much improvement over the Note 3 / Note 4 charging, somehow the way I use my phones they can drain the battery faster than it can recharge itself.
So battery packs has always been my friend, as I keep several charged battery packs ready to swap in/out.
Reason why I skipped Note 5, due the lack of battery swap. I decided to give Note 7 a try thinking it should have improved, but nope it's just exactly as I guestimated it would perform, and the educated guess was spot on.
I was not really surprised by the charge speed lack of performance, just the Advertisements, and the Unveil event made it such a huge deal that is was like WOW... but in reality it does not really deliver as advertised.
The charge speed performance is no different than previous generation, phone batteries like Note 3 and Note 4, using a normal 2A charger and a battery charger, my batteries pack are full in about 2 hours aprox same time it takes for the Note 7 using the "fast charge" to reach 100%
The so called fast charge to 50% in 30 min is bogus, I was clocking it, it was more like 45min to an Hour depending if the phone was Off or On... which is pretty much the same rate why it takes aprox 2 hours for 100% charge.
The old Notes 3/4, charges at about the same rate as Note 7, so they are just advertising the same old as new, I don't really see any real improvement over previous model.
With the removal of the option to swap battery packs since Note 5, it makes it even less appealing knowing you'll be stuck without battery until you find a plug.
In Note 3 and Note 4, you simply pop out the drained battery and pop in the 100% charged battery, downtime 60 sec at most to open back cover swap the battery and replace the back cover.
The Note 5 and Note 7 downtime ranges until you find a plug, or you carry one of those external battery top up dongles, not very appealing. I know those are very common with Apple users, and I don't like carrying those bulky USB dongles with me.
Battery life If I'm being conservative and turn off GPS, turn off Bluetooth, and turn off WiFi, I can get aprox 3 hours with Note 7, which is again about the same time I get with previous Note 3 and Note 4.
So the claim for an improved battery life is also bogus advertisement.
I still have about 7 days to keep it, if nothing changes by then, it's going back to the store.
The only nice feature I like on the Note 7 is the Iris scanner, and the 4x MIMO, actually that's the only reason the Note 7 picked my interest, I wanted to see if the 4x MIMO would improve signal quality, in poor reception areas, and it did.
so, of all the hyped propagandas during the live unveil and Ads, only the Iris scanner and 4x mimo actually performs as advertised, everything else, not so much, like the "free" game pack that is not available to people in North America >.< ...like really, advertised live during a new york event, and then they said, or sorry that's not for you.

Question Upgrading to Fold 5.

Might be early, but whom will be doing that?
I will first have a look at the new Pixel Fold, compare it with the Fold 5 and decide then.
Fold 5 could be the choice, if the pen is integrated in the device and battery capacity is improved.
There's no hurry ...
Only reading the rumours (and I totally appreciate they are only rumours) that it is going to be a be a very similar device to the fold 4 with only a hinge change I'm not going to bother. To me, it's not worth paying the premium again.
I'm still really enjoying my fold 3 and it serves me very well. I've not noticed any slow down or battery drop off.
The pixel fold was tempting but I occasionally use the s pen, which I think I would miss. And given Samsung haven't failed the Fold3 with software or security updates I'm not too bothered.
I will miss their camera though!
Not going for a first gen folding phone
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Only reading the rumours (and I totally appreciate they are only rumours) that it is going to be a be a very similar device to the fold 4 with only a hinge change I'm not going to bother. To me, it's not worth paying the premium again.
I'm still really enjoying my fold 3 and it serves me very well. I've not noticed any slow down or battery drop off.
The pixel fold was tempting but I occasionally use the s pen, which I think I would miss. And given Samsung haven't failed the Fold3 with software or security updates I'm not too bothered.
I will miss their camera though!
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Yeah, the Fold 5 is gonna have a similar footprint as the Fold 4. However the crease on the Fold 5 will be less noticable and it will have no gap when closed.
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Might be early, but whom will be doing that?
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To be honest Samsung has put me off of folding anything, as well as Samsung Products. I waited to get a folder until I thought the tech was mature enough, as someone else said , I'm not buying a gen 1 device. I had the S21 Ultra and it was rad. We switched Carriers and I thought the ZFold 3 would be neat, and it was for the first couple of weeks. After showing it off to everyone that wanted to see it and settling in to normal use, I quickly figured out that I had downgraded while spending way more on the device. The folding quickly became a rarely used gimmick, I would say I used it once or twice a week, that's not Samsung's fault, I should have thought more about my own needs and habits. As a bar phone it fell short of the older s21 ultra in every metric that I cared about, that is on Samsung and Me, I should have done more due diligence. What Put me off of Samsung though is how they handled the Warranty. 3 days before my warranty expired the seam in the fold went and the inner screen was done for. Samsung told me to take it to the Asurion repair shop and they informed me that no mater what it was going to be considered external damage, even though I had never dropped it or over used the fold. I had to replace it, even though it was known issue. I have been with Samsung since the Behold 2, I have had so many of their phones and products over the years and its just a bummer. I almost sold our bespoke fridge over it, but its just so pretty. So nah, I dont think Im gonna buy it. Sorry, that rant came out of no where.
I have been put off folding phones because of how I have to really take care when the phone is opened. I had the bubbling issue with the factory screen protector and after visiting a samsung store to see if I could get it replaced they declined, I like my fold 3 and will use it a little longer but think my next phone will be the s24 ultra when that comes out.
That is not always the case. I had the issue with my inner screen protector and Samsung Repair Center in Zurich replaced it at no charge.
They mentioned, it's done for free only once, the next time, I have to pay 50 bucks to get it replaced.
TexasMade said:
To be honest Samsung has put me off of folding anything, as well as Samsung Products. I waited to get a folder until I thought the tech was mature enough, as someone else said , I'm not buying a gen 1 device. I had the S21 Ultra and it was rad. We switched Carriers and I thought the ZFold 3 would be neat, and it was for the first couple of weeks. After showing it off to everyone that wanted to see it and settling in to normal use, I quickly figured out that I had downgraded while spending way more on the device. The folding quickly became a rarely used gimmick, I would say I used it once or twice a week, that's not Samsung's fault, I should have thought more about my own needs and habits. As a bar phone it fell short of the older s21 ultra in every metric that I cared about, that is on Samsung and Me, I should have done more due diligence. What Put me off of Samsung though is how they handled the Warranty. 3 days before my warranty expired the seam in the fold went and the inner screen was done for. Samsung told me to take it to the Asurion repair shop and they informed me that no mater what it was going to be considered external damage, even though I had never dropped it or over used the fold. I had to replace it, even though it was known issue. I have been with Samsung since the Behold 2, I have had so many of their phones and products over the years and its just a bummer. I almost sold our bespoke fridge over it, but its just so pretty. So nah, I dont think Im gonna buy it. Sorry, that rant came out of no where.
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Wow, how do you NOT use the inner screen on this phone?! I very rarely use the outer screen, and am on the inner one all day. Only times I use the outer one is in the car (it is in a wireless charging arm that comes down from the dashboard next to my Android car unit screen), for the stopwatch while using mouthwash (takes up less counter space folded), and if I'm doing something quick (like turning on a Vibe on my Apollo Neuro device) while it is folded for being in my purse or on a wireless charger. I'm glad the outer screen is there, especially for the Always-On screen to see the time, calendar, and notifications, but the inner one is so much better and more useful for everything. A lot easier to type on, too.
I replaced the inner screen protector with the White-whatever one once (there was a bubble creeping along the fold and it no longer had the anti-fingerprint feature) and it was pretty easy to do. Have had this since a few days before launch day. Another year and some months to finish paying it off, so we'll see what's out then for folding phones, but I usually don't upgrade often.
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Not going for a first gen folding phone
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Especially when it has older hardware, like the Pixel Fold. I might forgo the Pixel 8P and go straight for the Fold 2. That's the only way I can justify spending for two phones.
Rather upgrade to Fold 5 versus pixel fold 1.
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Might be early, but whom will be doing that?
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What are the reviews I'm currently using S22 ultra is it a good idea to switch to fold. I want an honest review about this! Want to switch on fold.
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Might be early, but whom will be doing that?
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Im actually considering to upgrade. I soo far love the Fold 3 as it is and its been a wonderful experience soo far. And seeing news and leaked images of the Fold 5 is making me want to upgrade. There is also the Pixel Fold being launched soon to the market and I also heard that Oneplus is working on one already. I thought Ill wait until all these releases and then opt the best out of the lot!
How good are the Fold devices from Samsung? Do you recommend me getting once cause Im really intrigued by them and I want them to be performing well enough too. Are they optimized enough and do they get slow over time? How is the battery performance? Ive also heard about multiple applications not being well optimized to the Aspect Ratio of the phone since the Main has a big screen, how does this affect the UX and what about the gaming compatibilities?
I would love to know about the requested queries!
Prakash_Raj said:
How good are the Fold devices from Samsung? Do you recommend me getting once cause Im really intrigued by them and I want them to be performing well enough too. Are they optimized enough and do they get slow over time? How is the battery performance? Ive also heard about multiple applications not being well optimized to the Aspect Ratio of the phone since the Main has a big screen, how does this affect the UX and what about the gaming compatibilities?
I would love to know about the requested queries!
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The best thing for you to do is go into a store and play around with a demo unit to see if it is good for you. As everybodys opinon of the device is different and it is all based on user preference
Prakash_Raj said:
How good are the Fold devices from Samsung? Do you recommend me getting once cause Im really intrigued by them and I want them to be performing well enough too. Are they optimized enough and do they get slow over time? How is the battery performance? Ive also heard about multiple applications not being well optimized to the Aspect Ratio of the phone since the Main has a big screen, how does this affect the UX and what about the gaming compatibilities?
I would love to know about the requested queries!
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They are pretty good in my opinion. Ive been using the Fold 3 for a while now and there is no major complaints as such. Like @iceepyon mentioned, its always good to check it hands-on for a better understanding of the device and your liking towards it.
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The best thing for you to do is go into a store and play around with a demo unit to see if it is good for you. As everybodys opinon of the device is different and it is all based on user preference
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Okay I get that! Nothing beats a hands-on experience on the device itself so yes, I think I will check the device out in real to truly understand if its for me or not.
But since ya'll have been using the Fold on a daily basis for a while, I wanted to know how good it is on a long term and as a daily driver for daily usage and stuff.
EdwardMatthew said:
What are the reviews I'm currently using S22 ultra is it a good idea to switch to fold. I want an honest review about this! Want to switch on fold.
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Hey hope you all are doing great! Seems like you guys didn't see my comment that's why I'm commenting again

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