Hello Dear Members
I ordered a Pixel XL which should arrive tomorrow.
I would like to know what I can do after a Root.
I know that I can take easily a Backup, etc.
But what else?
DBrand seems like a interest Soft Case.
Going for the Black Carbon.
Root is usually used for a specific purpose. If you don't have a need for it right away but think you might want to root later, unlock your bootloader before setting up all your apps on your phone. You can root later without losing any data, but unlocking the bootloader requires a full wipe of the entire phone and ALL data will be lost in the process.
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I'm new to the world of android as I've been on the iphone for the past 3 years. I have been reading everything here that I can as to avoid pissing you guys off from having to answer these simplistic questions over and over. I know you guys get tired of it and I have been searching and trying to learn.
I have a pretty basic question and was hoping to get some input and advice.
I know nothing about Bootloader & Root. As I said I'm coming from the iphone. My question is, should i unlock the bootloader and root as soon as I get the device? What are the advantages in doing so? I really have no intention of modding the device and planned on leaving it totally stock. I got burnt out on modding way back with Motorola seam updates! I know doing this would wipe the device so I was wondering if I should do it 1st, but since google syncs everything to the device, couldn't I do it later and still sync everything back just like when you 1st get it?
Unlocked bootloader lets you flash costume kernels cooked and modded by the devs here, could give a more optimized phone or a more unstable.. root gives you super user or admin over your phone, that lets you delete, change or add systemfiles, some market appa depend on it.. as an everyday user, you do not NEED to do these things to your phone, but if you ever get boored and want to play around to keep your phone "new and exciting" its a nice way to keep you from tire and buy something new for a while. My xperia x10 is miles better then stock my incoming SGN i will probably keep it stock for a while.. Welcome to the community
Oh and yes, once you synced your contacts and apps you can play around with modds and allways get them synced to your phone, app DATA will however not sync.
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I Unlocked my bootloader first thing out of the box.. Because it will wipe everything. After that you can root and flash CWM without any data loss so you are free to run stock or rooted stock as long as you want and be able to flash when your ready and use titanium backup to restore your apps.
I need Titanium backup. I don't know how people get by without it. Therefore I have to root every phone right away.
I would say rooting is the most important for backing up app data. The sync tells you that it will back up and restore app data but it doesn't really. It only backs up certain data and only if the app is written specifically to support it, iirc. With root you can use tools like Titanium Backup to back up everything in case you need to factory reset, change phone or simply just going back to an earlier backup.
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I don't have a SGN (yet) but when I. Got my DROID Incredible I rooted it as soon as someone found a way... took a few hours but I was too impatient for one-click root.
Anyway, I did it solely to remove bloat and Sense. Since the SGN is stock, and the GSM version doesn't have any bloat that I'm aware of... I'd say you could stay stock for a while, root if you feel the need later (or want the extra benefits of Titanium BU or other root apps).
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Hi all, I've done a fair bit of searching and reading up but not sure I can find definitive answers to whether there are any downsides to rooting my One X.
I am thinking similar to tethered jailbreaks in the iOS world, where if you run out of juice you have to cable up to get it to boot up etc.
I would like to root, so I have the freedom to use a few of the tweaks and mods on xda (such as the tweak to change the default - read too high - auto brightness levels), not sure I will actually replace my entire rom at this stage, just root so I can use some of these minor tweaks.
so, is there anything that I need to genuinely consider before making the leap, some specific questions that spring to mind are;
1. Can I always easily revert it ?
2. Read some posts where people are struggling to charge once it hits 0% ? Is this an actual problem if I just root ? I do not want to brick a phone or have to prize open the case to take batteries out etc
3. If I chose to replace ROM's in the future, are there actual apps that more or less backup all your apps and settings so you can just reload that one app after a new ROM is installed, restore a backup and I am good to go, or do you have to manually setup everything from scratch again ?
Thanks for any advice you guys can offer.
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The only downside to rooting is you get hooked on flashing. It's very easy to get back to stock. As long as you have proper RUU for your region that goes with your CID and all is fine.
At present, the only rooting method involves unlocking the bootloader. It can be locked again. But it's 'relocked' rather than 'locked'. So your warranty is still void in some cases.
I'm waiting for root method which doesn't require an unlocked bootloader. Or non HTCDEV Unlocked bootloader and S-OFF before I do mine, but that's just me
Sentinel196 said:
So your warranty is still void in some cases
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HTC will only refuse your warranty if you balls up your phone as a result of flashing roms. Everything else such as hardware defects will leave the warranty in tact.
Hey everyone,
I've tried to google around and search the forums on XDA but there is no straight up answer to some questions I have. This is the first HTC device I own and although I have been rooting/unlocking devices since the Nexus 4, I am afraid to go ahead with this one. I just wanted the answers to the following questions, if anyone here knows them please:
1. Unlocking the bootloader seems straight-forward and supported by HTC. I'm in the UK which means no Uh-Oh protection. If something was to happen to the device and I sent it back under warranty, would I be ****ed or would HTC replace/repair it? HTC UK's call center was worse than useless and HTC US' policy doesn't apply to us so I thought I should ask here.
2. Does unlocking the bootloader and rooting mean I will lose access to the fingerprint scanner, camera quality or anything 'stock'? I know Android Pay won't work but at the moment I am not too bothered either way because it's a hit and miss thing with it.
3. Finally, is there a way to completely revert unlocking the phone/s-off and going back to S-ON/Locked without any signs of having messed around with the device? I ask in relation to question 1. If unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty for UK users, is there a way to go back to stock and make the phone as though NOTHING was done to it?
Thank you to anyone who helps answer even 1 of these questions :victory:. I want to root and get xposed onto my new device but not at the cost of losing features on a brand new phone or losing warranty on it either :silly:
1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
jaredkzr said:
1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
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Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
Devzz said:
Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
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Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, it really is a great thing they've done! HTC is being really friendly to developers and power users. If you have questions or need some help with the unlocking or rooting feel free to drop me a PM!
Good morning(ish) XDA,
So I had a quick question I wanted to run past you guys. You see, I have my good old Pixel 2 XL here, but my Girlfriend was kind enough to get me an early gift and got me a new phone. So I was going to give my Pixel 2 XL to my Little Brother. The Bootloader is Unlocked, It's Rooted, It has Xposed, and it has a Custom Recovery. It's been a long time since I've done any modifications to my phone, so I am a little rusty lol I was wondering if there was a simple way to Return my Phone to Factory Settings?
I'm sure you guys get noob questions like this all the time, and I apologize if anyone feels like I am wasting time, but I really would appreciate any and all help you guys have to offer.
Thank you for your time!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-xl-t3702418
Follow the instructions under "flashing factory images" and you should be back to stock!
I'd say just do a full factory image flash to the phone.
You'll need to enter your Google account info to unlock the phone after a factory restore so that it can be used again though.
After flashing the stock full factory images, also consider locking (and "critical" locking for that matter) the bootloader as well; unless you want your brother to mess around rooting and flashing ROMs...
note: locking will erase everything on the phone and return it to stock...
What disadvantages are there to unlocking bootloader but not rooting? Just bought the 3a XL. Have rooted every phone since my og HTC Incredible. Don't really need to root now, but don't think I would want to later if I would have to unlock bootloader later and wipe my phone in the process. If I unlock now, that gives me the option of rooting later a little less painlessly, I would think.
So, any major disadvantages? I'm really a noob at all this. Older guy, over 50, don't know much technical stuff about all this, but follow directions pretty well.
Thanks!
fjm568 said:
What disadvantages are there to unlocking bootloader but not rooting? Just bought the 3a XL. Have rooted every phone since my og HTC Incredible. Don't really need to root now, but don't think I would want to later if I would have to unlock bootloader later and wipe my phone in the process. If I unlock now, that gives me the option of rooting later a little less painlessly, I would think.
So, any major disadvantages? I'm really a noob at all this. Older guy, over 50, don't know much technical stuff about all this, but follow directions pretty well.
Thanks!
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Well, pretty much the only disadvantages are the same disadvantages if you were to unlock and root.
If someone physically got the device they'd easily be able to flash third party firmware to it.
That's all I can really think of off the top of my head.
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Well, if you unlock the bootloader, many apps will flag your phone as rooted/tampered and may not work. Google Pay and Pokemon Go for example. There's actually no advantage to unlocking the bootloader without rooting and using Magisk Hide. I mean, you wouldn't have to wipe your phone later when you would decide to unlock the BL.... this may be a plus.
I think you'll create more hassle on yourself by unlocking the BL without also rooting it. Either go all in and do both, or leave it locked.
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Well, if you unlock the bootloader, many apps will flag your phone as rooted/tampered and may not work. Google Pay and Pokemon Go for example. There's actually no advantage to unlocking the bootloader without rooting and using Magisk Hide. I mean, you wouldn't have to wipe your phone later when you would decide to unlock the BL.... this may be a plus.
I think you'll create more hassle on yourself by unlocking the BL without also rooting it. Either go all in and do both, or leave it locked.
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But also a word of caution unlock your bootloader b efore it is patched happened on the Verizon pixel XL og
All the downside of rooting, but none of the benefits.
What is your reasoning for wanting to do this? So that you could root later or reload the OS if the phone becomes inoperable? Then just set the OEM Unlocking slider to on, but don't actually perform the unlock, and then you can can unlock at any time it might become necessary. Remember, unlocking a Pixel is a far simpler thing than unlocking most other devices, as long as OEM unlocking is turned on, it's a simple fastboot command.
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What is your reasoning for wanting to do this? So that you could root later or reload the OS if the phone becomes inoperable? Then just set the OEM Unlocking slider to on, but don't actually perform the unlock, and then you can can unlock at any time it might become necessary. Remember, unlocking a Pixel is a far simpler thing than unlocking most other devices, as long as OEM unlocking is turned on, it's a simple fastboot command.
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He doesn't want to have to wipe later on though, which is fair enough imo.
That's the main reason I unlock and root as soon as I get new phones.
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He doesn't want to have to wipe later on though, which is fair enough imo.
That's the main reason I unlock and root as soon as I get new phones.
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This.
It's the wipe by unlocking later that I want to avoid.
Actually, my only reason for rooting is Titanium Backup. I like being able to backup and restore certain apps data and being able to freeze certain apps. Which actually bit me in the ass on my unlocked and (formerly)rooted Pixel 2. I had a forced OTA happen to me recently, which unrooted my phone and I now can't retrieve some apps data and unfreeze some apps without re-rooting. I don't know how the OTA went through since I was rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
So, being that there are ways to do backups of the 2 apps data that I used TiBU to do without being rooted, I would think that unlocking the bootloader so that I could reload the OS easier later would be the thing to do. I don't use Google Pay or the other similar apps, so the unlocked bootloader shouldn't hurt me.
What other apps would be flagged and not work with an unlocked bootloader?